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Old 11-16-01, 12:43 AM
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Default can someone please go step-by-step on comp producing..

i know i cant go professional wit comp producing..i juss want something to do on my spare time..
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i got all the software and hardware i need...i think
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a yamaha keyboard, fruityloops, cubase, and cooledit pro

i know wat sounds good and i got some good piano loops in my head but i dont know where to start...
i would really appreciate it if someone would help me..
thnx
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Old 11-16-01, 04:42 PM
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im no expert but ill give some pointers that might help.

1. Sampling is key

Download some other songs (or if you got any old vinyl, you might try hooking your turntable or record player into your cpu), then load em up into cool edit pro (look for that mp3 addon!!!). Then, you gotsta chop some sounds out of it; loops or notes, it doesn't really matter, whatever sounds good. If you sample songs with drums in them, its real tricky, cause when you put your drums down, you gotta make it match so be careful. Cool edit's got madd effects that you'll probly want to apply to your samples.

2. Drums are a must

check http://www.phatdrumloops.com/, and download some drum loops. Then, you can use them directly or better yet, chop em up and make your own. Look for a program called Recycle; it can chop up drum loops (or notes or whatever) automatically. At first you'll probably want to just use the drum sample directly, but after a while you will wanna start using you own sequences.

3. Fruity Loops is a sequencer.

Now, the samples that come with fruity loops are frail like a fiend's physique, and fruity loops was made primarly to create dance music; for hip hop, it's strength lies in its sequencing ability. Add the directories that you have your samples in to the menu on the side. Then, you can start makin music! Id start with the drums (they gotta be bangin) and then move on to bass (download some bass sounds and some bass drums too). Keep in mind: every element of the song should be kept in different pattern section (the little keypad things at the top).

Lets say that you make a simple drum sequence in the 1st track, and you want to give the drums some variation. to do this you need to go to the 2nd track, then copy the drum sequence from the first and change it up (mabye a second handclap, a second snare, more hi hats, etc). To make it play like that, you need to go to the play list view, highlight 3 bars of track one (it really helps to name the tracks like 'drums 1', 'drums 2', 'bass 1', 'piano'). Then, highlight the second track for the forth bar, highlight loop, and press play. You should hear your 1st loop 3 times, and then your 2nd loop. Do the same for the bass, instruments or whatever. (btw, you can select sections from the playlist view by holding down ctrl or alt and copy and paste them)

There might be a way to quantize (record the notes you play from your midi keyboard) with fruity loops, but if there is i don't know. And I don't really use cubase, cause it screws up Reason, so i can't help you there.

4. In general

Sample everything; TV shows, classical music, you name it. mix and match, amplify, boost or cut the bass/treble. Basically: experiment

Variation makes the song; throw in a little somthing here and there to juice it up or it gets boring. Depending on what your making, you should keep the intro around 20 seconds long (12 bars i think), verses 24 bars, choruses 8 bars and outro can vary.

Practice makes perfect. Your first stuff might sound awful but you kinda get a feel for what goes where after a while.



Hope this stuff helps, just keep in mind that the most important thing is having fun; if its fun, and you like doing it, you'll be ill as ****. You can't persue good music, its gotta ensue.


Oh yeah, if anyone with a hardware setup reads this: You are entitled to front. If you dropped a grand on an MPC you are probably serious (or spoiled out of you mind), so i hope you can drop some knowledge too.

Peace!
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Old 11-16-01, 06:00 PM
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omg thnx alot!!
that helped alot...really..
thnx for takin the time man..
time to get to work..
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Old 11-17-01, 02:39 PM
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yo, it ain't nuttin.

have fun!



And big ups to the mods for the big...up....

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Old 12-29-01, 09:20 PM
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wats some otha sites where I can download drums from ???
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Old 01-07-02, 02:24 PM
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"i know i cant go professional wit comp producing.."

Why not?
I know no reason why software should hold you back,and this is coming from a harware guy.
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Old 01-07-02, 06:27 PM
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^^^^^What kinda setup you got?

sicki: i don't know anywhere else. sorry
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Old 01-08-02, 07:28 AM
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I use an mpc2000,and a zoom sampletrak.I mix my beats strait to cdrw.
I have fruityloops too,and although I just mess with it I
see it has potential in the right hands.
Go to www.grimmbeats.com,and listen to a guy named "Super soul".
This guy used only Fruityloops for the beats,and his stuff is dope.
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Old 01-09-02, 11:59 AM
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i got a producer affiliate who does 90% of his beats on the PC and it's dope ish quality... he'd say otherwise about the mpc, etc.

basick... holla at me playboy.. p_yom@hotmail.com

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Old 01-21-02, 06:05 PM
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how about what Basick suggested, except how about replacing fruityloops with mpc2000. would that work.? i mean it seems like people are either about hardware or software but not a mixture. If we get an mpc2000, do we absolutely need a computer to produce the final product?
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Old 01-21-02, 08:21 PM
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A combo would probably be best. If you've got the mpc for the sampling, drumming and sequencing, you can use the comp to chop up the samples or add effects like a delay or reverb. The main advantage that comp producing has over hardware is that i doesn't cost a thing, so even an amateur can just mess around and whatnot. I'd suggest hardware if your serious or you're in a studio setup.
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Old 01-31-02, 12:04 AM
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thnx basick
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Old 02-07-02, 09:39 PM
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how good is rebirth 2.0? What's it good for?
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Old 02-07-02, 10:01 PM
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Rebirth is the TB-303, the TR-808 and the TR-909 combined. It's basically 2 drum machines and a synth in one. It's not bad on its own, but combined with Reason, its mad potent.
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Old 02-09-02, 01:41 PM
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Sorry basick but what's Reason, and who's it made by?
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