1-Medina does pr work and gets shows for uncle murda
(thats why she was on murda's side in the video)
2-uncle murda disses pap because his manager told him
3-uncle murda ****ed with slay first(slay played and supported him first!)
and he realized he couldnt manipulate slay
so he starts to **** with a dj that has a weak personality(green lantern)
green is not as outspoken,tough, and street as slay,uncle murda can manipulate him
4-kayslay stopped playing murda cause green lantern stopped playing papoose,EVENTHOUGH green lantern himself made those beats for the pap songs
in conclusion,
kayslay helped uncle murda before anyone of you knew who he was
unclemurda listened to his manager and dissed pap
green lantern is weak and stopped playing pap because he was pressured(eventhough the songs had HIS OWN BEATS)
uncle murda got ****ed up,makes 3youtube videos to dismiss it
(and keep his GANGSTA image)
and acts like medina is neutral(when in fact shes on his side the whole time)
and you have the audacity to believe this industry puppet and hate on slay
First things first, how did things between you and Green Lantern go sour?
The situation between me and dude…I don't say dude's name, and I don't want to get into too much into detail with dude because me and dude work at the same radio station and I'm not trying to spark no internal beef. All I'm going to say is that he stopped supporting me and my movement for a dude he totally didn't know.
We had a good relationship. Dude and Papoose had done records together.
They did three or four records together to be exact. Dude took the advice of Uncle Murder's manager to stop playing Pap's records and to stop supporting me unless I played Uncle. That's when everything between me and him started going left. We didn't even have no problems at the time. He just got on the side of a team that was hating and he hated with them. That's how everything started with us.
Why would Uncle Murder's manager not want Green Lantern supporting you and Papoose?
His manager used to be my partner. What happened was, first things first just so everybody knows,
I'm the first person to play Uncle Murder. I remember when the Ruff Ryders had him. They called me to come up to the Firehouse Studio in Yonkers. They had played his record called "***gots." I'm seeing it resurface on the internet now. I was like, 'Dude's type hot.' This might have been three and a half, four years ago. I was supporting him them.
He died down and I don't know what happened, but he started popping back up at the station again. I started his buzz in NY again. I got freestyles with him saying "Kay Slay was the first to play my ****." His buzz came through me! Kay Slay helped start his buzz. He was getting spun the first half hour of my show. I knew he was a straight-up dude and that he wasn't a coward. Once his buzz started getting up, his manager started looking at an opportunity to snatch him. Instead of saying, "Yo, Slay, let's do this," he wanted somebody he felt he could play.
That's why he went to that DJ. He knew that if he did business with me, we would have to do business the right way.
We were going to sign a production deal and we were going to shop Uncle's deal right. Uncle’s manager knew that he could play the dude. He has no production deal with the dude. He's just his DJ. He was just thrown into the situation. He's telling him to do this and to do that and he listens, even going against us.
Papoose is signed to Jive Records through Streetsweepers Entertainment. We're equal in everything we do, just like Big Lou and the rest of my artists. Dude doesn't have that situation. Uncle is signed straight to Def Jam.
The rap confrontation happened because Uncle's manager amped him up to diss Pap. We're the hottest dudes in the city. What would be the easiest way for his buzz to jump quicker than it already was? His manager amped him up to go at Papoose. When he went at Papoose, the thing that makes it so crazy is Uncle's manager gave me a freestyle to play on the air one night and when I played it on the air, Pap called me like, 'Yo, why are you playing a song with him dissing me?’ I thought that Pap was bugging, but when I played it back during the commercial break, I was like, 'Oh, ****!' I asked Uncle’s manager, 'Why would you give me this?’ He said he didn’t know Uncle did that, that he just gave him the song and he didn't even listen to it. That's where things started to go left.
And we're not with the diss ****. We're not getting on no records in this time and age talking about what can turn into a reality. My thing is our buzz came from Papoose being a great lyricist. He didn't have to go at anybody. People are going to see the difference. Ten years from now when the kids sit around and say who’s a legend, watch who they say.
But that's how that **** started. And when it started, of course it was only right and natural for me to stop playing his music. You can't go at Pap and my empire and expect me to support you afterwards. How the **** are you going to go against somebody you've known for years after another dude comes at you with a new situation? How are you not going to play records that you produced? Because he was scared. That's why. That's the whole situation in a nutshell right there.
Why would Green Lantern be scared?
Because he's a cool type of dude, but he's not the street type. He hears this and he hears that about people and he falls into their traps. It's cool though. I understand that being from the street ain't always a plus. That's something that a lot of us didn't have a choice with though. That's where we were born, in the ‘hood.
What exactly happened outside of the T-Pain album release party between you, Papoose and Uncle Murder three weeks ago?
I'm going to tell y'all like this – I don't even know how to ****ing run anymore. I'm 252 ****ing pounds. My pants are sagging. I would be tripping over my own pants. That's No. 1. The honest-to-God truth is that I didn't hit him (Uncle Murder). Papoose did not hit him either. Our backs were turned. We were on the red carpet taking pictures.
I heard something behind me and I turned around and I saw him staggering back. I was like, 'Who's that, Pap?' He goes, 'That *****-ass Uncle Murder *****.' Then he took off towards 11th Avenue. Then the ***** ran the opposite direction towards 9th Avenue. That's how everybody got to see who it was.
This is my whole thing – I don't know who hit him. I'm not saying that this person did this and did that. But what I will tell you is that he was by himself and there were only four of us, not 10 or 15. Mad Linx and Freekey Zeekey were there. There was about 200 people on that block and nobody but him will you hear try to say any type of other story. You can see comments posted where the people are saying that they saw Uncle run. There are no comments about us running because we didn't run. We had no reason to run. We weren't in any danger.
My whole thing is that if he's talking about being a gangster and making gangsta rap, then he has to protect his identity. Everybody has to do what they have to do. I'm just telling you what I saw happen that night. I didn't even see him get punched. When I turned around I saw him stumbling backwards. When he caught his balance, he didn't honestly know who hit him either, but when he looked up, he saw Pap's face. That's when he realized, 'Oh ****' and took off like a ****ing bullet.
I'm going to be straight up with you. I don't know where you're from, but if there's you and four friends and one of your friends gets in an altercation with a guy and the guy reaches into his waist like he's going to pull something out and he comes out with nothing, you're going to laugh! *****s are from the 'hood! Nobody reaches in their waist for **** and makes people run. This isn't the movies. If he had done that, he would have gotten his ass beat. There was no time for that! The only reason he got away was because I was telling *****s to let him go and stalled them when he started running.
We know who got the footage. I told them I didn't want it because I'm not trying to advocate that. It's a contradiction. You hear Papoose's music and that's not what we’re all about. We drop jewels, but there ain’t no pussies over here either. You know what his overall audience wants to hear from him. So for him to be involved in acts of violence, it's not a good look. That's why I'm glad that it wasn't me or Pap that put their hands on him.
There's an MP3 circulating of promoter Medina allegedly saying that Uncle Murder ran and then there's a clip on YouTube where Medina is with Uncle Murder and is telling a different story, claiming the MP3 was fabricated. Was the MP3 fabricated?
Listen, he told the story so much, talking about everything. He got on YouTube, talking about how he was with Medina. I know Medina. She’s been to my house before. She gave me my birthday party in Club 9 1/2 a few years ago and I used to come support her events. I know her well. I even remixed the record she did with Snoop when she was rapping. Me and Medina was tight.
She's running with him now, doing his PR work and helping him get shows. When I reached out to her and we were talking, my whole thing was that I wasn't trying to put her on blast or anything. If you notice, all we used in the conversation was the parts where he's contradicting himself, like when he says there were 15-20 people and there was only really four. We also used the part talking about him running. I could have used other parts of it if I wanted to be vindictive.
It was a third-party that recorded it. She had agreed to come over to meet us and clear everything up on a DVD but she fell back and stopped answering Papoose’s phone calls, so that's when the conversation was used.
If you see the YouTube video he made, he's saying that she knows me and that she recorded with me. But you have to understand that she's eating with him now. This is what you have to understand and I'm stating this clearly – I'm not a rapper. I'm not entertaining the Uncle situation with Papoose. There is no beef, We all know what beef is. This is just a dude doing what he has to do to get up in the rap game. His manager saw an avenue and he went for that. I'm not mad at that.
The only thing I'm mad at is that I'm the person who helped him early in his career and I'm the one who got him his first buzz. Even the joint "Suicide," I was playing that **** six, seven months ago. That was me! I gave the ***** a shot and now he's going against a ***** who gave him his first opportunity. And it's not even him! He let his manager amp him up.
For the record, Uncle Murder is just listening to his manager.
Exactly. Uncle doesn't have no problems with me. His peoples from Ruff Ryders were my peoples. He was on the Kay Slay and Greg Street album. What I'm saying is accurate. I helped the dude from the heart.
What do you see happening in the future?
Nobody knows what the future brings, but one thing's for sure, two things for certain, we're going to outshine everybody in longevity. Everybody gets an opportunity to shine. What you do with it is what counts. When it comes to the content of our music, we're going to shine, regardless.
Knowledge is the foundation of all things in existence and our knowledge is infinite. Papoose is a real MC, not a rapper. There is a difference between being a rapper and an MC and people got it kind of ****ed up. I can rap about how much I can shoot people, how much I can go to jail, how much drugs I got and how many *****es I got. Where's the substance and the message at though? The difference between a rapper and an MC is that an MC can make songs that can uplift people and help guide people in the right direction. An MC can open people's eyes up to something that they had no knowledge of. An MC can keep you abreast of current events and help the blind, deaf and dumb to see, hear and speak. A rapper ain’t talking about **** we ain’t heard before.
We hear where rap is at right now. That's because we're lacking MCs.
Did you tell Papoose not to record any diss tracks to Uncle Murder?
Yeah. That was me because I don't want him caught up in that. What's the end result of that? You tell me, what has ever been the end result of artists going back and forth with diss tracks?