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Exclamation Questions about the original Transformers movie

I've seen this movie literally hundreds of times, but I watched it again this weekend again and some things were reaffirmed/jumped out at me:

1. If Hot Rod was using his cannons to shoot at the Decepticons on the shuttle ... and to fight Galvatron inside Unicron ... and to fend off the Sharkticons in Quintessa ... why the hell did he not use them to shoot at Megatron when he was reaching for the gun (or even shoot the gun away)? But no - he has to be a glory hound and get in the way so that Optimus can't get a clear shot. Dumb ass. [2Pac]Use your brain! USE YOUR BRAIN![/Makaveli]

2. I think we all agree that Ultra Magnus is a punk ass faggot, but damn ... the movie really brought out his bitchmade tendencies even further. Notice how after he gave his orders to the Autobots in the beginning of the attack, he was NOWHERE to be found until Prime's death scene? Even Blurr's ho ass got some time trying to shoot at some Decepticons.

Also, what kind of leader lets stress visibly affect him? How does that make you look in front of your subordinates? Like when Kup and Hot Rod's shuttle crashed on Quintessa:

Springer: Kup and Hot Rod just bought it!
Ultra Fagnus: I can't deal with that now!

Muthafucka, you're the leader! You're supposed to deal with shit like that when your soldiers are dying! SMH @ Nozz having more love for his squad than him.

3. Grimlock seemed a lot funnier this time even though I knew what he was saying all the time. Whether he was being petulant (to Wheelie: "Me Grimlock no like you!" THWAP!), arrogant ("Me Grimlock no kisser! Me Grimlock king!"), or even dry (after his ill-fated assault on Unicron: "Me Grimlock need new strategy.")

4. So Daniel managed to save his dad, Jazz, Bumblebee and Cliffjumper from falling into that vat of acid ... did they neglect to save anyone else? Because as far as I can recall, they were the only ones who fell on that closed lid. That would be just selfish.

5. Speaking of Daniel, how foul was it of Arcee and Blurr to leave him hanging when the Decepticons attacked them on the Planet of Junk?

Arcee: *transforms and drives off*
Daniel: WHAT DO I DO?!
Blurr: Transform transform! I know you can do it! *transforms and drives off*

What the hell? The kid just got his damn exo-suit like five minutes ago and you expect him to know how to transform? Yeah, he came out of it okay, but damn ... the Autobots have no love for their squad! Ultra Fagnus taught them well!

More to come as I think of it ...

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Magnus was one of the softest characters in the movie (actually the whole transformers universe). He was always a fake Prime but never had the heart.

I think his whole fall from 'supposed soldier to cornball scrap' was supposed to show that the matrix cant just make anyone a leader... people have to be it already and the matrix amplifies it.
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Magnus was one of the softest characters in the movie (actually the whole transformers universe). He was always a fake Prime but never had the heart.
I think his whole fall from 'supposed soldier to cornball scrap' was supposed to show that the matrix cant just make anyone a leader... people have to be it already and the matrix amplifies it.
The sad part is that he was voiced by Robert Stack, of all people. Stack deserved better.
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The sad part is that he was voiced by Robert Stack, of all people. Stack deserved better.
Who does the voice to Starscream/Cobra Commander?
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Daniel should have let Cliffjumper fall into the vat
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That was fould how arcee and blur just left daniel like that. That scene just shows how grimy and self centered the autobots were. I mean he was a little kid for christ sakes. Those damn robots have no compassion.
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5. Speaking of Daniel, how foul was it of Arcee and Blurr to leave him hanging when the Decepticons attacked them on the Planet of Junk?
Arcee: *transforms and drives off*
Daniel: WHAT DO I DO?!
Blurr: Transform transform! I know you can do it! *transforms and drives off*
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i always laughed at the part. you can just see the fear in that poor kids eyes. he thought for sure he was gonna die that day.
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I've seen this movie literally hundreds of times, but I watched it again this weekend again and some things were reaffirmed/jumped out at me:

1. If Hot Rod was using his cannons to shoot at the Decepticons on the shuttle ... and to fight Galvatron inside Unicron ... and to fend off the Sharkticons in Quintessa ... why the hell did he not use them to shoot at Megatron when he was reaching for the gun (or even shoot the gun away)? But no - he has to be a glory hound and get in the way so that Optimus can't get a clear shot. Dumb ass. [2Pac]Use your brain! USE YOUR BRAIN![/Makaveli]

2. I think we all agree that Ultra Magnus is a punk ass faggot, but damn ... the movie really brought out his bitchmade tendencies even further. Notice how after he gave his orders to the Autobots in the beginning of the attack, he was NOWHERE to be found until Prime's death scene? Even Blurr's ho ass got some time trying to shoot at some Decepticons.

Also, what kind of leader lets stress visibly affect him? How does that make you look in front of your subordinates? Like when Kup and Hot Rod's shuttle crashed on Quintessa:

Springer: Kup and Hot Rod just bought it!
Ultra Fagnus: I can't deal with that now!

Muthafucka, you're the leader! You're supposed to deal with shit like that when your soldiers are dying! SMH @ Nozz having more love for his squad than him.

3. Grimlock seemed a lot funnier this time even though I knew what he was saying all the time. Whether he was being petulant (to Wheelie: "Me Grimlock no like you!" THWAP!), arrogant ("Me Grimlock no kisser! Me Grimlock king!"), or even dry (after his ill-fated assault on Unicron: "Me Grimlock need new strategy.")

4. So Daniel managed to save his dad, Jazz, Bumblebee and Cliffjumper from falling into that vat of acid ... did they neglect to save anyone else? Because as far as I can recall, they were the only ones who fell on that closed lid. That would be just selfish.

5. Speaking of Daniel, how foul was it of Arcee and Blurr to leave him hanging when the Decepticons attacked them on the Planet of Junk?

Arcee: *transforms and drives off*
Daniel: WHAT DO I DO?!
Blurr: Transform transform! I know you can do it! *transforms and drives off*

What the hell? The kid just got his damn exo-suit like five minutes ago and you expect him to know how to transform? Yeah, he came out of it okay, but damn ... the Autobots have no love for their squad! Ultra Fagnus taught them well!

More to come as I think of it ...

And for anyone who wants to call me a nerd, you ain't sayin' nothin' slick to a can of oil.



1) Hot Rod didnt have time to blast Megatron so he thought he could overpower Megatron. Dumb idea but give him an E for effort.

2)According to Magnus profile, he loves being a soldier but, when placed in a leader role, he clams up like a nun. He feels he can never live up to the other great Autobot leaders before (something that Rodimus had to deal with in all of Season 3) and he gets nervous when he has other people's lives in his hand.

3) Sadly that was the beginning of the down grade of Grimlock. During Season 1 and 2, Grimlock was badass. He openly rebelled against Optimus, pretty much did whatever he wanted. In Season 3, he becomes the comic relief and barely transforms out of his Dinosaur mode.

4)Funny thing about that, if you slow mo just before Daniel shoots the acid cover, you can see a robot that looks like Beachcomber and he falls into the acid. But no, Daniel only cared about his pops. The other Autobots only survived because of Spike.

5) The Insecticons should have stepped on him.
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I've seen this movie literally hundreds of times, but I watched it again this weekend again and some things were reaffirmed/jumped out at me:

1. If Hot Rod was using his cannons to shoot at the Decepticons on the shuttle ... and to fight Galvatron inside Unicron ... and to fend off the Sharkticons in Quintessa ... why the hell did he not use them to shoot at Megatron when he was reaching for the gun (or even shoot the gun away)? But no - he has to be a glory hound and get in the way so that Optimus can't get a clear shot. Dumb ass. [2Pac]Use your brain! USE YOUR BRAIN![/Makaveli]

because he was being HOT-headed and not thinking...Kup told him not to get involved but that's HotRod for you...just acting without thinking..


2. I think we all agree that Ultra Magnus is a punk ass faggot, but damn ... the movie really brought out his bitchmade tendencies even further. Notice how after he gave his orders to the Autobots in the beginning of the attack, he was NOWHERE to be found until Prime's death scene? Even Blurr's ho ass got some time trying to shoot at some Decepticons.

Nuff said.

Also, what kind of leader lets stress visibly affect him? How does that make you look in front of your subordinates? Like when Kup and Hot Rod's shuttle crashed on Quintessa:

Springer: Kup and Hot Rod just bought it!
Ultra Fagnus: I can't deal with that now!

Betta you then me type shiit right there...can't say I blame him though..they were about to bite it too..

Muthafucka, you're the leader! You're supposed to deal with shit like that when your soldiers are dying! SMH @ Nozz having more love for his squad than him.

3. Grimlock seemed a lot funnier this time even though I knew what he was saying all the time. Whether he was being petulant (to Wheelie: "Me Grimlock no like you!" THWAP!), arrogant ("Me Grimlock no kisser! Me Grimlock king!"), or even dry (after his ill-fated assault on Unicron: "Me Grimlock need new strategy.")

Grimlock = Snakeyes....Coolest muhfukka on the team... the wrong one to fukk with...always ready to throw down...always in great scenes

4. So Daniel managed to save his dad, Jazz, Bumblebee and Cliffjumper from falling into that vat of acid ... did they neglect to save anyone else? Because as far as I can recall, they were the only ones who fell on that closed lid. That would be just selfish.

everyone after behind them made it....everyone in front Bit the dust....a better question is...DID StarScream Kill Sparkplug...? He hit him with that NULL-ray in one of the episodes before the movie and that was the last time you saw Spark-Plug.

5. Speaking of Daniel, how foul was it of Arcee and Blurr to leave him hanging when the Decepticons attacked them on the Planet of Junk?

Them Nikkas was SHOOK. He knows the dangers...when the shiit hits the fan...every it's bot/man for himself..

Arcee: *transforms and drives off*
Daniel: WHAT DO I DO?!
Blurr: Transform transform! I know you can do it! *transforms and drives off*

What the hell? The kid just got his damn exo-suit like five minutes ago and you expect him to know how to transform? Yeah, he came out of it okay, but damn ... the Autobots have no love for their squad! Ultra Fagnus taught them well!

More to come as I think of it ...

And for anyone who wants to call me a nerd, you ain't sayin' nothin' slick to a can of oil.

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is this movie on dvd or has it been pulled for the movie that is coming out

Industry move number # 349587

Pull old movies out of Print before a new Theatrical release and Remaster them for Re-release when once the New Movie gets ready to hit DVD and sell them as a set...get that Guap.
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