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Old 05-23-07, 09:20 AM
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...false flags operations you know, I don't know if there still doing it an that, but you know, here's a little sumthin that corraborates what I've heard before from numerous other sources you see what I'm saying, you get me fam, the US army is putting bombs in innocent peoples cars without them knowing an that, an then telling them to go to a specific location an detonating it you know, making it look like a suicide bombing you see what I'm saying, you get me cuz, plus on top of that the US army has special units that are planting bombs in markets an neighbourhoods an assasinations of civillians opposed to the occupation, check this out fam, its kinda deep still, some information from someone who use to work in one of those units you know...

Ordered Assassinations, Sectarian Bomb Attacks Targeting Iraqi Civilians
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Former collaborator discloses details of US-ordered assassinations, sectarian bomb attacks targeting Iraqi civilians






An Iraqi who asked not to be identified had disclosed some of the US activities such as assassinations and bombings in markets that aim at sparking sectarian fighting among Iraqis so as to facilitate the partition of the country.



He pointed out that he that he worked with the US occupation troops for about two and a half years and then was able to flee from them to an area outside Baghdad where, he hopes, the Americans will not be able to get to him.



The former Iraqi collaborator recalled: "I was a soldier in the Iraqi army in the war of 1991 and during the withdrawal from Kuwait I decided to seek asylum in Saudi Arabia along with dozens of others like me. That was how began the process whereby I was recruited into the American forces, for there were US military committees that chose a number of Iraqis who were willing to volunteer to join them and be transported to America. I was one of those," he said.


The former collaborator went on: "In 1992 I was taken to America, specifically to an island where most of the establishments were military. I was with a number of other Iraqis, one of them the former governor of an-Najaf, 'Adnan adh-Dharfi. We received military training and intense courses in English and in how to carry out tasks like assassination," he recounted.



The former collaborator said that during the 2003 invasion and subsequent war, he was transported back to the interior of Iraq to carry out specific tasks assigned him by the US agencies.



"During the last war that led to the occupation of Iraq," he recalled, "I was with a group of my comrades who had received training in America in how to spread chaos in the ranks of the Iraqi army. We were brought into Iraq across the border from Saudi Arabia. We put on Iraqi army uniforms and out mission was basically to spread rumors among the Iraqis, such as that the American army had already got into such-and-such a city, or that it is on the outskirts of Baghdad and other such things, which were part of the reason for the rapid collapse of the Iraqi forces," he said.



The former collaborator went on: "the unit that I was with settled in the presidential palace in the al-A'zamiyah district. We were allowed to visit our relatives and relations in Baghdad once a month, and so I would go visit my family in 'Madinat as-Sadr’ in eastern Baghdad. But after things began to get worse and the armed men began to shot at everyone leaving the palace, I asked my family to come to the palace every now and then so I could see them. My job was being a guard, but after a time that situation changed and the American occupation forces put me in charge of a group of a unit that carried out assassinations in the streets of Baghdad," he said.



"Our task was to carry out assassinations of individuals. The US occupation army would supply us with their names, pictures, and maps of their daily movements to and from their place of residence and we were supposed to kill the Shi'i, for example, in the al-A'zamiyah, and kill the Sunni in the of 'Madinat as-Sadr’, and so on."



"Anyone in the unit who made a mistake was killed. Three members of my team were killed by US occupation forces after they failed to assassinate Sunni political figures in Baghdad. A US force that had been so-ordered eliminated them. That took place two years ago," the former collaborator recalled.



The former collaborator said that the Americans have a unit for "dirty jobs." That unit is a mix of Iraqis, Americans, and foreigners and of the security detachments that are deployed in Baghdad and other Iraqi cities. This unit doesn’t only carry out assassinations, but some of them specialize in planting bombs and car bombs in neighborhoods and markets. This unit carries out operations in which wanted people whom the American army does not want killed are arrested.



The former collaborator said that "operations of planting car bombs and blowing up explosives in markets are carried out in various ways, the best-known and most famous among the US troops is placing a bomb inside cars as they are being searched at checkpoints. Another way is to put bombs in the cars during interrogations. After the desired person is summoned to one of the US bases, a bomb is place in his car and he is asked to drive to a police station or a marked for some purpose and there his car blows up."



The testimony of the former collaborator is consistent with some western reports that have disclosed the involvement of US military personnel in bombings that target Iraqi civilians. The British reporter Robert Fisk, AMSI noted, had recently met with Iraqis in Syria concerning such "black operations" carried out by the Americans.



The Egyptian writer and former editor of al-Ahram, Muhammad Hasanayn Haykal, also noted in an interview with al-Jazeera satellite TV that there are mercenaries who practically make up an army second only to the regular US army in Iraq in terms of their numbers and equipment. This force is now called the "Knights of Malta" Haykal said, and they are the cause of many of the attacks that target Iraqi civilians. Haykal noted that there are Iraqis and Lebanese working in the ranks of that force.
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Old 05-23-07, 11:24 AM
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if this guy is iraqi then hes probably lying........i dont think you realize these peoples mindstate...THERE FUKKIN LIERS.......yes there could have been a few operations that killed civilians or whoever but YOUR TROOPS...IM PRETTY SURE YOUR AMERICAN......ARE NOT PLACING BOMBS IN PEOPLES CARS......YOUR A FUKKIN BRAINWASH CASE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THESE TERRORIST MONKEYS........THE WEST ISN"T THAT FUKKIN EVIL.....YEAH THEY HAVE DONE ALOT BUT ARE NOT THAT FUKKIN EVIL......IF THEY WERE.....THEY WOULD HAVE NUKE BOMBED EVERY MUSLIM ON THE PLANET....DONT FORGET THAT WE COULD WIN THIS WHOLE THING QUICKLY BUT WERE BEING NICE..........fukkin dumb bastard...........and if you are a muslim i guarentee that your one of those muslims who agrees with suicide bombings......cause your retarted......classic hypocrite who agrees with doing suicide bombings like a SNAKE......and then wonders why people hate them and why people think you agree with terrorism....even though you STILL agree with suicide bombings.....PICK A FUKKING SIDE YOU COWARD
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if this guy is iraqi then hes probably lying........i dont think you realize these peoples mindstate...THERE FUKKIN LIERS.......yes there could have been a few operations that killed civilians or whoever but YOUR TROOPS...IM PRETTY SURE YOUR AMERICAN......ARE NOT PLACING BOMBS IN PEOPLES CARS......YOUR A FUKKIN BRAINWASH CASE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THESE TERRORIST MONKEYS........THE WEST ISN"T THAT FUKKIN EVIL.....YEAH THEY HAVE DONE ALOT BUT ARE NOT THAT FUKKIN EVIL......IF THEY WERE.....THEY WOULD HAVE NUKE BOMBED EVERY MUSLIM ON THE PLANET....DONT FORGET THAT WE COULD WIN THIS WHOLE THING QUICKLY BUT WERE BEING NICE..........fukkin dumb bastard...........and if you are a muslim i guarentee that your one of those muslims who agrees with suicide bombings......cause your retarted......classic hypocrite who agrees with doing suicide bombings like a SNAKE......and then wonders why people hate them and why people think you agree with terrorism....even though you STILL agree with suicide bombings.....PICK A FUKKING SIDE YOU COWARD


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So why exactly is the US Army placing bombs in innocent peoples cars? To destabilize the strong and unopposed democratic Iraqi government? To make the American people be even more opposed to the war? To spite Bush?

See the problem with you enlightened fruitcakes is that you like to make people aware with all these "facts" you heard from different sources you feel me cuz but yet there is never a reason given for why it is done.

And yes, I'm sure your source was so afraid that he had to run away so "the Americans will not be able to get to him"

If only the US troops left Iraq everything would be peachy.
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So why exactly is the US Army placing bombs in innocent peoples cars? To destabilize the strong and unopposed democratic Iraqi government? To make the American people be even more opposed to the war? To spite Bush?
Nobody is hiding from answering your questions. There are obvious answers.

Question: Why is the US government putting bombs in cars to kill innocent people and blaming it on the so-called "insurgents"?

Answer: It's to damage the credibility of the resistance movement, by making them look like they are savages who just kill at random for no reason; and that they are less then human so they need America to stay there and make them civilized. It also creates chaos, and seeks to influence Iraqi's into fighting each other, so that America can look like the good guy coming in to provide order and stability. Bush's objective is to gain a permanent foothold in the region to strengthen Isreal, and have his associates gain wealth off of oil and defense contracts.
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It's to damage the credibility of the resistance movement, by making them look like they are savages who just kill at random for no reason; and that they are less then human so they need America to stay there and make them civilized. It also creates chaos, and seeks to influence Iraqi's into fighting each other, so that America can look like the good guy coming in to provide order and stability. Bush's objective is to gain a permanent foothold in the region to strengthen Isreal, and have his associates gain wealth off of oil and defense contracts.
.. but America looks like the bad guy who can't provide stability.

george bush has lost all credibility with approval ratings finally sinking into the 20's.

support from his own party is nearly gone (dead by september).

the war has handed control to the incompetent democrats that couldn't win shiit, will likely see them gaining more seats in 2008 along with the white house.

the resurgence in post-9/11 patriotism is shot to hell with nationwide memorial day protests planned (could you imagine that 4 years ago?)

i mean i could go on forever as to why the theory doesn't make sense.
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I used to think so too, but terrorism has always been the classical first step in a guerrilla war. the North Vietnamese did it, the Algerians did it, even Napoleon advocated it. the Shiite Mullahs were and are complacent in the occupation, its not too far out to believe some more radical elements in Iraq had a hand in trying to drive a wedge in that complacency. Just like its logical to believe those Shiite deathsquads were handpicked and trained by John Negroponte to drive a wedge in the resistance.

And even if America is behind the carbombings, its starting to work grossly against their favor. Shiites are starting to scream for the heads of Americans, not Sunnis or Saudis or Jordanians or whoever, and vice versa for the Sunnis. In the name of Iraq's sovereignty lets hope stage two of the freedom fight is under way now.
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.. but America looks like the bad guy who can't provide stability.
george bush has lost all credibility with approval ratings finally sinking into the 20's.
support from his own party is nearly gone (dead by september).
the war has handed control to the incompetent democrats that couldn't win shiit, will likely see them gaining more seats in 2008 along with the white house.
the resurgence in post-9/11 patriotism is shot to hell with nationwide memorial day protests planned (could you imagine that 4 years ago?)
i mean i could go on forever as to why the theory doesn't make sense.
That's beside the point. As long as people consider it America's job TO provide security then Bush and the Zionist are still meeting their goal. Whether American public thinks America is doing a poor job or great job of providing security, doesn't really matter.
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.. but America looks like the bad guy who can't provide stability.
george bush has lost all credibility with approval ratings finally sinking into the 20's.
support from his own party is nearly gone (dead by september).
the war has handed control to the incompetent democrats that couldn't win shiit, will likely see them gaining more seats in 2008 along with the white house.
the resurgence in post-9/11 patriotism is shot to hell with nationwide memorial day protests planned (could you imagine that 4 years ago?)
i mean i could go on forever as to why the theory doesn't make sense.
Bush and the Zionists are faced with two choices in order to meet their goals.

A.) Have a unified resistance joining forces to overthrow the occupation; thus causing instability.

B.) Seek to create some form of sectarian violence, thus causing Iraqi's to focus their efforts onto causing casualties amongst each other, rather than uniting against US troops.

...Either way, there is going to be some level of violence and instability. But, the CIA and Jewish intelligence agencies would rather have option B. That's why they are planting bombs to provoke ethnic fueds.

...Also, we shouldn't even debating whether or not Bush is providing proper security, because America shouldn't even be over there providing security in the first place. The media is influencing debates such as troop levels, and security to fool the people from the real issues.
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Face it betch, moooselms care more about blowing each others mosques and kids up as a method of debating whose interpretation of a backwards barbaric 9th century superstition is better then ridding their ****ty patch of sand of the weevil waamericans
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