So Esham Believes Eminem Tried To Have Him Killed?
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Although Psychopathic Records has had it's share of differences with Eminem in the past (to say the least), the beef between Eminem and Esham was brewing long before Esham signed to Psychopathic.
First, to understand, it's pretty much a given that Esham inspired almost every local rap artist that has come out of Detroit, from ICP and the Psychopathic family, to Kid Rock, to even Eminem himself. Eminem has even admitted this in the past.
In 1997, rapper Proof from Eminem's side-group D12 was performing in Detroit, opening up a show for Lil' Kim. Esham was chillin' out in the crowd, enjoying the show. For whatever reason, they called Esham up to come up on the stage. Esham went and, being the local legend that he is, the crowd went wild. Right as Esham got on the microphone, though, he got aattacked by a local rapper named Trick Trick from Detroit rap group The Goon Squad. All hell broke loose, fights broke out with the rappers, the security, the fans, and so on and so forth. Why it happened, who knows, but that was pretty much the end of that for a couple of years between Esham and Proof...
For Esham and Eminem himself, it all sort of began shortly before Eminem got famous. Eminem put out a song called "Till Hell Freezes Over." In this song, not only did he make an indirect reference (not a diss, just a reference) to Esham, he also dissed ICP on this one, with the line "**** ICP, buy my CD." However, shortly before that lyric, he says "I think I ****ed my head up listening to acid rap." For those not aware, Acid Rap is the style which Esham has always described his music as. And there's can be no mistake about it being a refrence to anyone else because Esham is the only artist--Detroit or otherwise--to claim "Acid Rap" as his creation.
On Eminem's major label debut album The Slim Shady LP, on the last track entitled "Still Don't Give A ****," Eminem again gave mention to Esham, saying "Ever since I was born, my mama lost me. I'm a cross between Manson, Esham, and Ozzy"
At first, Esham took this as a compliment. In one interview, when asked about it, he simply said "Yeah, that's pretty cool of him." And on Esham's greatest hits album Bootleg From The Lost Vault from 2000, on the back of the CD case, it quoted Eminem's lyric from that song. Esham didn't seem to mind.
Something at this point changed though...who knows what, but soon Esham was tossing disses at Eminem. In an issue of Murder Dog magazine, Esham called Eminem racist and said instead of "M&M," he calls him "Skittles cause any ***got can taste his rainbow."
The war was on.
In late 2000, Esham released the album Tongues which was littered with Eminem disses. (more info on the disses later).
Apparently, it struck a nerve. On Eminem's next album, The Marshall Mathers LP, which again had a few ICP disses on it, also had a diss at Esham. On the song "Kill You", Eminem raps "I ain't acid rap but I rap on acid, got a new blowup doll and just had a strap-on added. Whoops, was that a subliminal diss?!"
Esham responded with a few more disses in interviews and in one memorable appearance on ICP.com's Shaggy Show, said Eminem's haircut made him look like Hitler. Even Esham's homie Mastamind, from the group Natas got involved on his solo album Themindzi, in the Intro, saying "Wassup Marshall....watch you're mother****ing mouth."
It was only a matter of time before the situation turned violent, and when it did, it turned REALLY violent. Some promoter apparently decided that it would be a good idea to have both Esham/Natas and D12 on the legendary Vans Warped Tour. So on August 3rd, 2001, the Warped Tour stopped for a show in New Jersey and it would end up being the last show for Esham and D12 on the tour.
Eminem wasn't there, but the rest of D12 was. Reports vary a little, but the facts, as reported by MANY witnesses, are that Esham and partner TNT were hanging around backstage, chillin', and were MOBBED by a HUGE group of people. The people were members of D12 as well as their security. Witnesses say it was anywhere from 20 to 30 people. Esham claims it was more like 50. Proof, of D12, says it was around 35 or so. Either way, the fact remains: Esham and TNT were outnumbered, to say the least, and the beatdown occurred. Mastamind, lucky for him, wasn't around when it happened and thus, was spared a beating at the hands of 30 or so people.
The target was obvious: while TNT escaped with only minor cuts and bruises, Esham almost lost his life. He suffered broken nose, a ruptured eyeball (a RUPTURED ****ING EYEBALL, MAN!!!), a concussion and hearing damage to his left ear. Both Natas and D12 were kicked off the Warped Tour following the attack.
Speaking to reporters a few days after the incident, Esham insisted that Eminem set up the attack against him. Here's some of the quotes from an interview with Billboard.
"Mathers gave the word," Esham told Billboard. "He didn't even show up for the tour. That's how premeditated this was. This was a straight-up attempted murder on my life. I could have been dead.
It got this bad because those guys idolize us," Esham told Billboard. "They emulate everything we do. Eminem has animosity toward us because we're his favorite rap group. We don't agree with some of the things they say, so we speak upon that. It stems from that."
"We got kicked off for defending ourselves, which is totally horrendous," he added. "[D12] was 100 percent in the wrong. Even now they're sending emails and death threats to us."
After the incident, there were rumors going around that Esham may never be able to rap and perform again due to the hearing damage that he suffered from the beating and that it might be permanent. Apparently, that subsided because Esham was back in the studio shortly after and launched another diss at Eminem on Natas's last album Godlike in the song "Shady MF."
In mid-2002, things got violent again. When Eminem was recording a video for his hit song "Without Me", Esham and TNT got a small measure of revenge. They went out to California, where the video was being shot, and right there on Sunset Blvd., Esham, TNT, and about 15 gang members jumped Proof and Obie Trice, another rapper on Eminem's label. Two Shady Records staff members were also involved. Although it was, like, a damn near 20-4 beating, Proof claims that he and Obie Trice pretty much beat Esham and TNT up again. But others say that it was just a straight up beatdown, and that Proof and Obie got straight ****ed up. Who knows who to believe, but if you wanna draw your own conclusions, keep in mind that it was 15-20 people against 4.
The beef was pretty much silent for awhile later until Esham signed to Psychopathic in 2002 and released a greatest hits album called Acid Rain. The album included 5 new songs, 2 of which contained thinly veiled Eminem disses.
In October of 2003, someone from D12 finally responded to all the disses. Proof, from D12, released a song online entitled "E.S.H.A.M." which stood for "Every Sucka Has A Moment." The song talked about how Esham was a big legend in Detroit back in the early 90's but claimed that he wasn't **** now, so on and so forth.
Esham spit another diss on the 2003 Hallowicked track "Thug Pit." This isn't noteable really--at that point, Esham had dissed Eminem and D12 so many times that it became hard to keep track--but the thing is, apparently Bone Thugs and Tech N9ne (who were also on the song) weren't aware that Eminem was going to be dissed. Bone and Tech N9ne are both on good terms with Eminem and weren't happy about being included on a song which dissed Eminem without them knowing it was on there.
In November 2003, Esham released Repentence which, much like Tongues, had a slew of disses shot towards Eminem and D12. Even ICP got in on the action for a couple of songs.
Rumor has it that Eminem has a few words lined up for Esham on his next album, due out in late 2004, so I guess time will only tell on that one.
Below is a list of all the songs Esham has dissed Eminem on, and includes what he said. Some of these are blatantly obvious and a few of them are kinda iffy, but are at least somewhat believed to be a diss. In no particular order: Chemical Imbalance
"They won't let me on MTV, I beat up Carson Daly and remind Eminem of D'Angelo Bailey. Hailey's in a coma, Hailey's in a coma, I smell the aroma of a dead body."
Code:
I'm Dead
"Never rap about fans named Stan like a homo."
Mr. Negativity
"But then again, should I just slit his throat for saying my ****in' name in that rhyme he wrote? Should I kill your wife and your child for trying to assassinate me and my style?"
Detroit
"Killin' anything that's Shady, bitin' my style, pay me. And even in stereo, you can't play me, crack baby."
Brain Surgery
"Been boomin' words from hell way before D12. Tell me your favorite white rapper act like a female, *****! Slit your wrists like your dumb wife Kim. Scribble my name on the wall in blood, I love E-S-H-A-M."
Gloczup
"This white boy named Eminem, he say he live like me. Talkin' bout he from Detroit, the east side like me. Talkin' bout he don't spit acid rap but spit acid like me. *****, I'm a ***** and you're a honky."
All Night Every Day
"The styles that you runnin' round with is ours, you and them Shady suckas is nothing but cowards. Bang yo' brains in the dirt, make you go beserk, if you ride with Em-ily, yo' ass gon' get murdered. I'm the E to the S to the H-A-M. If I wasn't, then why would I say I am? Pull a jack, sell a sack, cuz the babies need Similac. You remember that, rollin' in the Cadillac. You wanna battle rap? I swing the battle axe, chop your head off, and tell Hailey, go tattle that."
La La La
"***** ass *****s in this game unreal, quick to flip the ****in' script for the mass appeal, but when their blood gets spilled, let's see how many feel that they gotta die for another Shady Record deal."
P-P-P-Pow!
"P-P-P-Pow if you dress up like Osama bin Laden..." (in reference to Eminem dressed like bin Laden in the "Without Me" video.
Woo Woo Woo
"And if you actin' shady, we be like, 'shut up ho'!"
In Detroit
"In Detroit, *****, you ain't even from Detroit, **** yo' style, 7 Mile is where the hustlas at. In Detroit, ain't no ****in' freestylin', ain't no time for that"
"I be the Rabbit killa, the killa who killed Rabbit, in Detroit, we bust automatics at trailer park addicts, across 8 Mile" (referring to Eminem's character "Rabbit" in the movie 8 Mile)
Back In Da Day
"I'ma tell you how it was before it all began, before Eminem, before all of 'dem"
"Feminem is her style, She-12 is her age, she lives across 8 Mile but still can get gauged."
"We was bumpin' Awesome Dre, representin' Detroit way before you met Dr. Gay"
Mommy
"Girl, he can't be your Superman, but I can be your Kyrptonite." (referring to Eminem's song "Superman")
Ex-Girlfriend
"Hailey's crying for her mommy. He didn't commit suicide, I killed your cousin Ronnie." (in reference to Eminem's Uncle Ronnie, who committed suicide a few years ago...but Esham ****ed up and called him 'cousin' instead. Either way, point made.)
Thug Pit
"**** Proof, every Halloween, I dress like a bag lady, then I ride around with my 380 lookin' for Shady. If I catch him at the Shelter, I'ma pull his file, chop his head off, and bury his body across 8 Mile."
Shady MF (Natas)
"Feminem and She-12 gon' get the ***** bust on."
nah Eminem named that n1gga as an influence on SSLP, than on MMLP he said "I dont do acid rap but I rap on acid".....Esham being the bi-polar manic depressive has been he is got butt hurt and went on a rampage of below the belt disses(speakin on Eminem's kid) and got smacked up by Proof and D12. Esham is bitter that all the white boys blew up and passed him up even ICP had like 3 gold and 2 platinum albums. Eventually Proof settled his differences with everyone from Psychopathic Records, Esham, and Royce.
nah Eminem named that n1gga as an influence on SSLP, than on MMLP he said "I dont do acid rap but I rap on acid".....Esham being the bi-polar manic depressive has been he is got butt hurt and went on a rampage of below the belt disses(speakin on Eminem's kid) and got smacked up by Proof and D12. Esham is bitter that all the white boys blew up and passed him up even ICP had like 3 gold and 2 platinum albums. Eventually Proof settled his differences with everyone from Psychopathic Records, Esham, and Royce.
they fuked esham up pretty bad
but its clear esham wants to be famous so he wants eminem promotion...at 1st he liked that eminem said he was influenced by esham...he even put the lyric on his album cover to sell records ...the one where eminem says "im a mix between ozzy,esham and manson" or something
**** people dont really care about Eminem like that anymore...why the **** would they care about Esham. I rather hear about Kid Rock even he is more relevant then Esham.
**** people dont really care about Eminem like that anymore...why the **** would they care about Esham. I rather hear about Kid Rock even he is more relevant then Esham.
"relevant" ,u can only be relevant if u sell ,so are u saying sales=skills?
nah Eminem named that n1gga as an influence on SSLP, than on MMLP he said "I dont do acid rap but I rap on acid".....Esham being the bi-polar manic depressive has been he is got butt hurt and went on a rampage of below the belt disses(speakin on Eminem's kid) and got smacked up by Proof and D12. Esham is bitter that all the white boys blew up and passed him up even ICP had like 3 gold and 2 platinum albums. Eventually Proof settled his differences with everyone from Psychopathic Records, Esham, and Royce.
He was on Psychopathic Records at one point, and it was his all time career low....
But it doesn't matter Esham is still living comfortably off his fortunes, even if he never got the exposure he deserved.
true, I wish he woulda stayed on his own. Once his brother got locked up it caused RLP/Gothom to fall apart and them to lose the distribution deal with TVT records(one of the top indies) than he begged for a deal from ICP who he was bashing on Tongues a year prior, now who knows if he'll ever get good distribution again.
"relevant" ,u can only be relevant if u sell ,so are u saying sales=skills?
I mean relevant as in when people talk about hip hop they bring you up, im not saying anything about sales. If sales determined relevance to me Eminem and 50 cent would be the most relevant people in hip hop when in fact they are not.
Honestly I dont remember the last time Eminem came up in a conversation in hip hop outside of SOHH let alone esham.
i haven't finished reading after reading the hilarious title of proof's diss;
every sucka has a moment
aw hell naw.........hahhahahaha
lol
now that's hilarious.
also, is this what really happened or someone who is pro;
esham
art barr
its all true..this guy just put all the info in one place
idk why trick trick jumped esham tho..prolly just rivalry cuz they both "gangstas"...same with proof...
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So Esham Believes Eminem Tried To Have Him Killed?
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