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Old 05-18-07, 10:36 PM
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Default 5 Players Not To Build Your Franchise Around

1.Dirk Nowitzki
Last year's NBA Finals made me question the German. After a lack luster performance his status as superstar had slipped. After starting the season off slow this year (0-4) then, going on to a 67 win season showed some promise. Only I was one of the people that though Warriors would win the series, but I thought Dirk would put up some nice games. I was wrong. The man fell flat on his face, and broke his nose spilling blood of loser all over the the state of Texas.

2. Vince Carter
Making the playoffs only 4 times in his career is pathetic. Getting swept in 2000 by the Knicks. Then losing the infamous Game 7 game against the 76ers in 2001. 2005 getting swept by the Miami Heat, and now losing 3-1 to the Cavs. Vince is one the players in the NBA in which is talent is wasted. For a person who has teh ability to explode the hoop and dunk it better then anybody else, he takes lots of jump shots. Proven that he is not a clutch player (Game 7 vs Philly, and last night vs Cavs) Carter is a backwards step for your franchise.

3. Tracy Mcgrady
Here are some quotes from T-Mac:
“I don’t believe in pressure. Pressure doesn’t affect me at all.”
Many times, the game comes down to the final possession, the final shot. I want to become a better clutch performer. That’s what separates the really good players from the really great players."
Too bad he is good at any of the things that he says. Some people say "Like Father, Like Son". Well I say "Like Cousin, Like Cousin." You can tell him and Carter are related. Both losers.

4.Steve Francis
For somebody being named "The Franchise" he is far from being my franchise guy. Horrible shot selection, a shoot first point guard and lack of defense have really turned Francis career upside down. Suffering from injuries is excusable, but lack of defense and the will to lead a team has labeled him a "bust".

5.Stephon Marbury
Maybe if he put more thought process in his game, like he did his sneakers he could have a ring.
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I don't understand how T-Mac can get all of the hate, he is a really good playoff performer, his teams just don't play well...
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I don't understand how T-Mac can get all of the hate, he is a really good playoff performer, his teams just don't play well...
Really? His team? He has one of the best centers in the league. No excuses. Look at Iverson's 2001 Finals Team:

PG: Eric Snow
SG: Allen Iverson
SF: George Lynch
PF: Tyrone Hill
C: Dikembe Mutombo

The Rockets team now has extrememly more talent then that craptastic team.
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I don't understand how T-Mac can get all of the hate, he is a really good playoff performer, his teams just don't play well...
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I don't understand how T-Mac can get all of the hate, he is a really good playoff performer, his teams just don't play well...
i agreed before this last series.
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Really? His team? He has one of the best centers in the league. No excuses. Look at Iverson's 2001 Finals Team:
PG: Eric Snow
SG: Allen Iverson
SF: George Lynch
PF: Tyrone Hill
C: Dikembe Mutombo
The Rockets team now has extrememly more talent then that craptastic team.
I wish people would cut it with the myths that Iverson did it by himself....

PG: Eric Snow 2000-01: Missed 32 contests with a right ankle fracture from Dec. 8 to Feb. 7…averaged 9.8 points, 7.4 assists and 3.3 rebounds…led the team in assists in 25 of the 32 games after returning from injury…recorded three straight 20-point plus games from Nov. 8 to 11. Decent defender who also made the 02-03 All Defensive 2nd Team
SG: Allen Iverson MVP, nothing needs to be said here
PF: Tyrone Hill 9 rpg
SF: George Lynch 8.4ppg 7.2 rpg
C: Dikembe Mutombo 13.5/2.7/0.4 Defensive Player of the Year
Aaron McKie 11.6/4.1/5.0 6th Man of the Year

and a coach of the year, all on the same team...
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great players
but never gon win a championship
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I wish people would cut it with the myths that Iverson did it by himself....

PG: Eric Snow 2000-01: Missed 32 contests with a right ankle fracture from Dec. 8 to Feb. 7…averaged 9.8 points, 7.4 assists and 3.3 rebounds…led the team in assists in 25 of the 32 games after returning from injury…recorded three straight 20-point plus games from Nov. 8 to 11. Decent defender who also made the 02-03 All Defensive 2nd Team
SG: Allen Iverson MVP, nothing needs to be said here
PF: Tyrone Hill 9 rpg
SF: George Lynch 8.4ppg 7.2 rpg
C: Dikembe Mutombo 13.5/2.7/0.4 Defensive Player of the Year
Aaron McKie 11.6/4.1/5.0 6th Man of the Year

and a coach of the year, all on the same team...
Doesn't say much when you have all that on your team and still don't win the championship does it? Face it the Suns right now have more players averaging 10 or more points. Back then the East was easier. Think about it.

There was no:

Lebron James
Chris Bosh
The whole Pistons team
Dwyane Wade
Gilbert Arenas
Loul Deng
etc
etc

A lot of the teams today were better then that Sixers squad. It was a fluke year. The very next year sixers had the same team but minus Lynch he was subsituted with Matt Harpring and were elimnated in the first round.
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That's retarded. If you can't build a team, you can't build a team. Shaq has won 4 rings and been to the finals 6 times, but he's also not been to the finals 9x's and he suppsed to be the most D-Ever and has played with some of the best players of recent memory.

Dwayne Wade and Shaq got swept in the first rd and they are supposed to be the best players in the league according to guys like Jayplaya.
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Doesn't say much when you have all that on your team and still don't win the championship does it? Face it the Suns right now have more players averaging 10 or more points. Back then the East was easier. Think about it.
There was no:
Lebron James
Chris Bosh
The whole Pistons team
Dwyane Wade
Gilbert Arenas
Loul Deng
etc
etc
A lot of the teams today were better then that Sixers squad. It was a fluke year. The very next year sixers had the same team but minus Lynch he was subsituted with Matt Harpring and were elimnated in the first round.
Allen iverson quite on his team dude cried at midcourt when Boston amde a run, he quit on his team and had an emotion breakdown, he's a virtual loser
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