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Old 05-18-07, 10:15 AM
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By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer
12 minutes ago



ANNANDALE, Va. - Openly armed firearms enthusiasts packed a normally sedate government building, hoping to win a pistol or rifle and at the same time send a defiant message to gun-control advocates, especially New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

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The Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun-rights group, organized the "Bloomberg Gun Giveaway" in large part to thumb its nose at Bloomberg, who accuses some shops of allowing illegal purchases of firearms that later were used in crimes in his city.

The city has filed federal lawsuits against more than two dozen shops, including six in Virginia.

Two guns were awarded Thursday, a Para-Ordnance pistol and a Varmint Stalker rifle, each worth about $900. The winners did not immediately receive the weapons — they will still be required to undergo federal and state background checks.

The first winner, Jay Minsky, responded with an obscene hand gesture when asked what message he hoped to send to Bloomberg.

"If he doesn't like people in New York having guns, he should deal with New York," said Minsky, who grew up in Brooklyn. "Just keep out of Virginia."

The event drew an overflow crowd at a Fairfax County government building, with the fire marshal aggressively enforcing an occupancy limit of 150 for the meeting hall. Others stood outside and peered through open windows. About 200 people showed.

County officials opposed the drawing but concluded they could not prohibit a group from using the community meeting room because of its political views. The gun-rights group has met in the building for years.

The event drew protests from gun-control advocates and the parents of those killed in last month's shootings at Virginia Tech.

Peter and Cathy Read, whose daughter Mary was one of those killed, held a photo of their daughter outside the building.

"We're not here to have a debate. We're here to witness for our daughter," Peter Read said. "The victims need to be witnessed to. People of the commonwealth can make intelligent decisions about what's right."

Philip Van Cleave, the league's president, said he sympathizes with the families but maintained that some of the deaths might have been prevented if somebody had been armed.

Many in attendance said they were motivated not by the chance of a free gun, but to make a point to Bloomberg and express support for the Second Amendment.

"It'd be nice if I win, but that's not what this is about. It's about my constitutional right to defend myself," said Ron Stuebing, a league member.

The event had been planned for months as a fundraiser for two gun shops being sued by New York City. But officials said that giveaway violated state gambling laws, so the league quickly organized a new giveaway, open to anybody who showed up at its Thursday night meeting.

Most but not all in attendance carried holstered handguns. In Virginia, individuals need a permit only to carry a concealed weapon. Openly visible, holstered guns are permitted without a permit.

Anybody who showed up at Thursday's event was eligible for the drawing — except Bloomberg and his immediate family.

Asked Thursday about the giveaway, Bloomberg said, "I think it's sick, is the nicest ways to phrase it."

Van Cleave responded that the members of his organization are law-abiding citizens, including many retired military, police officers and firefighters.

"If you're saying these are sick people, then I'm proud to be sick," Van Cleave said.

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Associated Press writer Sara Kugler in New York contributed to this report.
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I shoulda went to see if I coulda won me a free gun....if I had known, I woulda went lol
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Shut yo dumbass up, you ain't even from NYC....you just live there lol
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good point, I guess you styled on her like VA did NYC. lol
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haha...that made me laugh
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I pay to stay in NYC and am a resident. But that still doesn't change the fact that wyall are ass-backwards morons. Keep stylin
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i can just imagine walking in VA...tobacco spitting hicks....SMH
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hey...i dont spit tabacco!

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Can't talk about a place you ain't been to slim....if you had some knowledge then you'd know we have the right to bare arms. Goes back to that old saying of "guns don't kill people, people kill people"

Keep working on your fake nyc accent lol....
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yo POOH where you from...you ain't from NEW YAWK....

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Can't talk about a place you ain't been to slim....if you had some knowledge then you'd know we have the right to bare arms. Goes back to that old saying of "guns don't kill people, people kill people"
Keep working on your fake nyc accent lol....
Way back when their was also a right to have slaves. Some amendments are just outdated my man.
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