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Old 01-22-07, 11:17 PM
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the reason he NEEDS to be president is his stance AGAINST bipartisan politics, which is tearing our country apart. while fox news, bill o'reilly, ann coulter, and many others promote right wing conservatism to a ridiculous degree, even a liberal such as myself can't deny there are some on our left side the same way.
Obama's issues are a more centrist left wing view, and he consistently denounces bipartisanship as poison, WHICH IT IS.....and that is not having your own opinion, not researching yourself, but going along with whatever the big wigs in "your" party want.
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Old 01-22-07, 11:23 PM
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i agree. i'll up this thread tomorrow when i have more time to read and discuss. i have some reading to do for class before bed.
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Old 01-22-07, 11:30 PM
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Eh, I guess.

I hope he doesn't fall into the normal Democrats strategy of being too scared to take a stand for anything and trying too hard to appeal to moderates and moderate conservatives (this never, ever works).
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the reason he NEEDS to be president is his stance AGAINST bipartisan politics, which is tearing our country apart. while fox news, bill o'reilly, ann coulter, and many others promote right wing conservatism to a ridiculous degree, even a liberal such as myself can't deny there are some on our left side the same way.
Obama's issues are a more centrist left wing view, and he consistently denounces bipartisanship as poison, WHICH IT IS.....and that is not having your own opinion, not researching yourself, but going along with whatever the big wigs in "your" party want.

ughh, bipartisanship is a centrist ideal. I still dont know what that guy stands for. Alls I know is he aint got a shot, and rightfully so. I for real would rather Colin Powell run.
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the reason he NEEDS to be president is his stance AGAINST bipartisan politics, which is tearing our country apart. while fox news, bill o'reilly, ann coulter, and many others promote right wing conservatism to a ridiculous degree, even a liberal such as myself can't deny there are some on our left side the same way.
Obama's issues are a more centrist left wing view, and he consistently denounces bipartisanship as poison, WHICH IT IS.....and that is not having your own opinion, not researching yourself, but going along with whatever the big wigs in "your" party want.


I think you mean he's against "partisan politics".
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the reason he NEEDS to be president is his stance AGAINST bipartisan politics, which is tearing our country apart. while fox news, bill o'reilly, ann coulter, and many others promote right wing conservatism to a ridiculous degree, even a liberal such as myself can't deny there are some on our left side the same way.
Obama's issues are a more centrist left wing view, and he consistently denounces bipartisanship as poison, WHICH IT IS.....and that is not having your own opinion, not researching yourself, but going along with whatever the big wigs in "your" party want.
i thought all that came out of your mouth was "knowimsayin" and "what it do" ..

didnt really think you had thread like this in you.. im....surprised.. ...


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Eh, I guess.
I hope he doesn't fall into the normal Democrats strategy of being too scared to take a stand for anything and trying too hard to appeal to moderates and moderate conservatives (this never, ever works).
exactly, they get swooped up under some "morals and ethics" appeal. this should be an interesting race, i'm not sure i like the rainbow coalition of candidates the democratic party is producing thus far...i think they're couteracting one another, but it's early
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ughh, bipartisanship is a centrist ideal. I still dont know what that guy stands for. Alls I know is he aint got a shot, and rightfully so. I for real would rather Colin Powell run.
all his views are right on his website. Stop acting like you have to be spoon fed information. The voter has the responsibility to find the information that each candidate is for. it's the candidates responsibility to make sure the voter has that information at their disposal
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all his views are right on his website. Stop acting like you have to be spoon fed information. The voter has the responsibility to find the information that each candidate is for. it's the candidates responsibility to make sure the voter has that information at their disposal
I like how he is honest about his drug experimentation in the past and how he is looking to stop funding of these additional troops to Iraq. I still wish we had a liberal running that didn't have to be religious though.
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I still wish we had a liberal running that didn't have to be religious though.
i think the country's even closer to being ready for a black president than this. but i do agree with you.


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i thought all that came out of your mouth was "knowimsayin" and "what it do" ..
didnt really think you had thread like this in you.. im....surprised.. ...
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LOL! fukk you. i don't usually waste good or deep conversation on SOHH. but don't judge me on what i say on here, i just be clownin in this b!tch. "knowimsayin".
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I think you mean he's against "partisan politics".

yes, that is exactly what i meant. you'll have to forgive me, i work the graveyard shift and it was about 6 in the morning when i wrote this.

thanks for taking time out of your day pointing that out instead of contributing to the thread.
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ughh, bipartisanship is a centrist ideal. I still dont know what that guy stands for. Alls I know is he aint got a shot, and rightfully so. I for real would rather Colin Powell run.
how bout you read one of his books if you want to know
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yeah, but he needs to have a tough skin. I suppose Fox news is preparing him for that.
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if i was an American, i'd vote for Obama just to make the KKK
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