Mohammed preached to spread Islam by the sword. So what's new?
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Pope talk | Parliament adopts resolution
Associated Press
Islamabad, September 15, 2006|13:43 IST
Pakistan's parliament on Friday unanimously adopted a resolution condemning Pope Benedict XVI for making what it called "derogatory" comments about Islam, and seeking an apology from him for hurting the sentiments of Muslims.
The resolution, moved by hardline lawmaker Fazal Karim, was supported by both government and opposition lawmakers in the National Assembly or lower house of parliament.
Chaudhry Ameer Hussain, speaker of the National Assembly, allowed Karim to move the resolution after Karim said the pope had insulted Islam and the Prophet Muhammad, and hurt the sentiments of the entire Muslim world by making "derogatory remarks".
The measure was adopted a day after the Vatican sought to defuse criticism of the pontiff's remarks, when he quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and an educated Persian on the truths of Christianity and Islam.
"The emperor ... said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,"' he quoted the emperor as saying.
On Thursday, the Vatican said the pope had not intended to offend Muslim sensibilities with the remarks.
But the Foreign Ministry in Islamabad termed the remarks "regrettable." "Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.
So, once again we're going to have to see how unpeaceful and intolerant Muslims can be?
I hope not.
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I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. — Mohandas K. Gandhi, Young India, August 11, 1920 from Fischer, Louis ed.,The Essential Gandhi, 1962
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I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. — Mohandas K. Gandhi, Young India, August 11, 1920 from Fischer, Louis ed.,The Essential Gandhi, 1962
yeah boy serve the massa, the massa done love youuuuuuu
It's obvious you don't understand the situation.
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Last Updated: Sunday, 19 February 2006, 05:06 GMT Nigeria cartoon protests kill 16
Sixteen people have been killed in northern Nigeria during protests by Muslims over the cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad.
Most of the deaths occurred in rioting in Maiduguri, capital of north-eastern Borno state. One person died in similar riots in north-central Katsina state.
Witnesses said most of the dead were from Maiduguri's minority Christians.
The cartoonist whose cartoons sparked off the worldwide riots told a Scottish newspaper he had "no regrets".
The riots in Nigeria are the first violent protests in the country over the cartoons.
Eleven churches were torched during the protests and Christian businesses targeted.
The country is nearly equally split between Muslims in the north and Christians.
Violent protests
The BBC's Alex Last in northern Nigeria says the protest had begun peacefully in Maiduguri, and it was not clear what started the violence.
The city's residents described demonstrators running wild after police tried to disperse the protest with teargas.
CARTOON ROW
30 Sept 2005: Danish paper publishes cartoons
20 Oct: Muslim ambassadors complain to Danish PM
10 Jan 2006: Norwegian publication reprints cartoons
26 Jan: Saudi Arabia recalls its ambassador
31 Jan: Danish paper apologises
1 Feb: Papers in France, Germany, Italy and Spain reprint cartoons
4-5 Feb: Danish embassies in Damascus and Beirut attacked
6-12 Feb: Twelve killed in Afghanistan as security forces try to suppress protests
13-18 Feb: Five killed as protests break out across Pakistan
17 Feb: Ten killed in Libya as protesters target the Italian consulate in Benghazi
18 Feb: Sixteen people are killed during protests in northern Nigeria
Crowds of protesters carried machetes, sticks and iron rods through the city centre, the Associated Press news agency reported.
One group threw a tyre around one man, poured gas on him and set him ablaze, it said.
Christian leader Joseph Hayab told Reuters agency that most of those who died had been Christians.
"The Muslim group came out to protest and the security forces tried to ensure it was peaceful, but there were some hoodlums in the crowd and somehow the security forces shot one or two of them," said Mr Hayab.
"They went on the rampage, burning shops and churches of the Christians. The protesters killed the others. Some were even killed in the churches."
Soldiers have been deployed and a curfew imposed. Around 115 people were arrested in Maiduguri and 105 in Katsina.
Borno state governor Modu Sheriff said the state "was shocked and disgusted" by "the civil disturbance" in Maiduguri.
Nigeria has witnessed sectarian violence in the past, and the concern now is that the violence does not spread to other cities, our correspondent says. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4728616.stm
So, are you calling all the brothers in Africa who might die from Muslim violence, Uncle Toms?
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Originally Posted by admiral
It's obvious you don't understand the situation.
So, are you calling all the brothers in Africa who might die from Muslim violence, Uncle Toms?
Or is it just Christians? http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?im...lpoint2nb7.gif
No my old, old friend.
YOU dont understand the situation, and that is evident through your interpretation that you have expressed here of what you have read and seen.
WHAT part of your life did you enter when you stopped thinking rationally? WHEN did being reasonable and intelligent become personal attributes you neglected?? DID you feel being closeminded and obtuse would lead you to truth and lasting PEACE within your own person?????
I want to pin point this moment in your life, so that we can remedy the damage caused by it, for even though you are a LOST SHEEP you are still my brother on this earth and it my privelage that GOD has given ME the strength to help you understand what has perverted your mind.
Work with ME, for the sake of PEACE...in the Qu'ran it says that for every disease GOD has given us a remedy and my brother, I am offering that to you in a form of peacefull discussion, REASONING, AND UNDERSTANDING.
The rapid expansion of Islam via the sword is an historical fact.
The break out from Arabia and consolidation of support was more than impressive, it was damn well legendary. Islam was spread by the sword, to deny this, is to deny history itself. looking at it from a dispassionate, historical context, Islam was the great pacifier of the masses in the wake of the Arab break-out.
For the record, I'm not saying that's good, bad or indifferent. It just was.
re: the Pope's statements, the reaction of the Islamic world is so fukkingly typical and predicatable, it's laughable.
Muslim folk constantly live under the "bunker-mentality" on a wide-spread basis (I attribute this to their longing to explain why no *muslim gov't* is in any way shape or form successful at creating a prosperous society.) Thus, when even a twinkling of something emerges that is even in the littlest bit anti-muslim, all they all do is rant and rave. See: the absurd Koran-flushing episode at Git-Mo.
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Yeah, Islam spread through conqueors of lands in Europe, Africa, and Asia. But not all of it was by sword. A lot of it was word of mouth, some was violent, and others peaceful.
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Muhammeds followers also taught the European how to walk upright and bathe more than once a fortyear. gratitude has never been one of its strong suits it seems
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Muslim folk constantly live under the "bunker-mentality" on a wide-spread basis (I attribute this to their longing to explain why no *muslim gov't* is in any way shape or form successful at creating a prosperous society.) [quote]
yeah right? i figured it had to do with centuries of interference and oppression at the hands of u pagan ****ss, silly me how wrong i was
how about taking some constructive criticism for once instead of as a country making decrees against people for speaking. I'm Christian and we've done some raw ish. So have many in the name of Islam. Call out the muh F**** doin it instead of callin people names. Just like when Bill Cosby was callin out the black community. Even though we see it everyday, we want to get on Bill Cosby. Where we goin people?
how about taking some constructive criticism for once instead of as a country making decrees against people for speaking. I'm Christian and we've done some raw ish. So have many in the name of Islam. Call out the muh F**** doin it instead of callin people names. Just like when Bill Cosby was callin out the black community. Even though we see it everyday, we want to get on Bill Cosby. Where we goin people?
Good post.
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I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. — Mohandas K. Gandhi, Young India, August 11, 1920 from Fischer, Louis ed.,The Essential Gandhi, 1962
Yeah, Islam spread through conqueors of lands in Europe, Africa, and Asia. But not all of it was by sword. A lot of it was word of mouth, some was violent, and others peaceful.
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Originally Posted by FHA1223
Yeah, Islam spread through conqueors of lands in Europe, Africa, and Asia. But not all of it was by sword. A lot of it was word of mouth, some was violent, and others peaceful.
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I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. — Mohandas K. Gandhi, Young India, August 11, 1920 from Fischer, Louis ed.,The Essential Gandhi, 1962
The rapid expansion of Islam via the sword is an historical fact.
The break out from Arabia and consolidation of support was more than impressive, it was damn well legendary. Islam was spread by the sword, to deny this, is to deny history itself. looking at it from a dispassionate, historical context, Islam was the great pacifier of the masses in the wake of the Arab break-out.
For the record, I'm not saying that's good, bad or indifferent. It just was.
re: the Pope's statements, the reaction of the Islamic world is so fukkingly typical and predicatable, it's laughable.
Muslim folk constantly live under the "bunker-mentality" on a wide-spread basis (I attribute this to their longing to explain why no *muslim gov't* is in any way shape or form successful at creating a prosperous society.) Thus, when even a twinkling of something emerges that is even in the littlest bit anti-muslim, all they all do is rant and rave. See: the absurd Koran-flushing episode at Git-Mo.
I don't know why this seems so difficult for people to grasp.
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You are stupid ******, and the rapid spread of christianity was not?
The Crusades?
The inquisitation?
The systemic conversion of slaves, using bible verse to justify their enslavement to them?
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Mohammed preached to spread Islam by the sword. So what's new?
