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Old 05-28-06, 07:00 AM
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Default the whole byrd gang is here like kurt cobain was here

3 years later and i still don't get this line

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Old 05-28-06, 07:16 AM
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3 years later and i still don't get this line
juelz is elusive

Lol @ trying to 'get' anything the Dips say.

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Old 05-28-06, 07:25 AM
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mayb a drugs reference..who knows
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Yeah, it must be some reference to heroin.

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the byrd gang is here like when kurt cobain was alive, in 92-93
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What does the early ninties have to do with anything though? Do they consider that time to be when they were at their strongest? The movement hadn't even started.
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my guess was, well Kurt Cobain was a big drug user and the "byrd"/bird gang reference was used as a play on words. Meaning his crew is selling a lot of drugs and Kurt Cobain buying all the heroin is the reason they are all there.
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I heard they ****s with Nirvana in Purple City.
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the line waas crack then and its crack now
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i always thought... if kurt cobain would be here, the whole nirvana gang would be here.. but since he is not.. they not all here.. but his gang is all here like nirvana would be if kurt cobain was here and since this is impossible, then his whole gang is not here making his line a lying line to say that not all his gang is here at all... some of them died and cant make it anymore like kurt cobain couln't

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byrd=heroine

cobaine and them were junkies. so they were a "byrd gang".

Dipset calls themselves thew byrd gang.

So, when uncle Juju wrote that line the whole dipset(byrd gang) was prolly there , thus, the whole byrd gang was there like curt cobain was there.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b09v3jyAZBY

The Meaning of "Heart Shaped Box"

The "Heart Shaped Box" video is Cobain's most ambitious artistic statement, and the journals yield insights into its elusive significance. The box in question is one Courtney sent him, a symbol of their love he believed to be suffused with her sexual scent. Originally, the song title was "Heart Shaped Coffin," suggesting existential concerns even beyond their love. The journal lyrics suggest their romance's love/hate thrill: "She fries me like cold ice cream—headaches and chills." Instead of the recorded version's more upbeat lyric, "I've been locked inside your heart-shaped box for weeks," the journal reads "buried in your heart-shaped box." The song describes Cobain's place in the whole universe.

The journals sketch the evolution of the video's symbol-laden, elliptically autobiographical narrative. At first, it was to star William Burroughs, whom Cobain evidently revered as a long-lived defier of convention (overlooking the fact that Burroughs survived only because he switched from heroin to marijuana early on) and for his aleatoric compositional technique, morbid mythology, and sardonic W.C. Fieldsian cynicism. Here was the first scene, expressing Cobain's sense of himself as repository of Burroughs' artistic spirit: "William and I sitting across from one another at a table (black and white) lots of Blinding Sun from the windows behind us holding hands staring into each others eyes. He gropes me from behind and falls dead on top of me. Medical footage of sperm flowing through penis. A ghost vapor comes out of his chest and groin area and enters me Body."

Burroughs wouldn't do the video, so Cobain used a generic old man on a cross and pecked at by crows. To him, birds also symbolized old men advocating death: "Me—old man," he writes. "Have made my conclusion. But nobody will listen anymore. Birds [are] reincarnated old men with tourrets syndrome . . . their true mission. To scream at the top of their lungs in horrified hellish rage every morning at daybreak to warn us all of the truth . . . screaming bloody murder all over the world in our ears but sadly we don't speak bird." Clearly, Cobain spoke bird.

The journal has a great sketch of a skinny guy with a pumpkin head on a cross, beset by crows. In the final video, the old man winds up with a pope's mitre. He represents a martyred rock star; this time, the crows seem to represent Cobain's press tormentors. One shakes his beak disapprovingly at the old man.

Next, Cobain wanted the video to depict "bodies entwined in old oak trees . . . Ask about Dante's Inferno movie from the 30s to use instead of making our own props. We will use the scenes of people intwined old withering oak trees." He refers to the 1935 Spencer Tracy movie Dante's Inferno, about a man who stages a Coney Island carnival attraction based on Dante. He bribes the inspector, the building collapses, and people die. The theme of corrupt showbiz and mass death appealed to Cobain.

So did the Inferno. The bodies entwined in trees, briefly seen in the finished video, are from Canto XIII of Dante, the suicide canto. God turns people into trees to punish them for stealing their own souls: when Dante snaps a twig, it bleeds, and he hears a cry. God also sends winged harpies to torment them, like Cobain's crows.

The journals contain several sketches and plans for "Heart Shaped Box's" central symbol of purity: a 4-year-old "Aryan" girl in a KKK hat. (Could she be associated with his beloved blond kid sister and blond toddler daughter?) She is oppressed by her parents' views, but when her hat blows off, it symbolizes the fresh wind of revolutionary ideas. She reaches up to the half-human trees with fetuses dangling from them (another image of purity).

This captures the theme of the lyrics: "Throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back." Cobain had a deep need to crawl back to the womb. In a journal quoted only in Heavier Than Heaven, he writes that his first memory was fighting to climb back up into his mother's womb when his head first protruded into the terrible alien air. His first sight was the aqua floor tiles, perhaps related to the color of Nevermind's underwater cover, inspired by an underwater-birth documentary Cobain had seen. The last album, and the "Technicolor" palette he planned for the "Heart Shaped Box" video, was to be the color of the Inferno instead. "Heart Shaped Box" is his metaphor for a womblike place of safety: his marriage, the protective warmth of loved ones. It is also a confinement associated with the afterlife, as is the warm snugness of heroin.

The craving for innocence expressed in the video notes, and throughout the journals and albums, was acted out in Cobain's last days in a poignant way. With his ever- juvenile delinquent friend Dylan Carlson, he hot-wired a car, went on a joyride, and trashed it. He could have bought a car lot full of brand-new BMWs, but instead he stole a crummy car and destroyed it, perhaps as a way to recapture the lost innocence of his lost vandalistic youth. It was pathetic. And yet, in his art, he could shape his yearnings for innocence and his appetite for destruction into something of lasting value.
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byrd=heroine
cobaine and them were junkies. so they were a "byrd gang".
Dipset calls themselves thew byrd gang.
So, when uncle Juju wrote that line the whole dipset(byrd gang) was prolly there , thus, the whole byrd gang was there like curt cobain was there.
no no no no no

all he was saying is that the whole gang is here like would nirvana if kurt cobain would be here.. geeez..

let's not forget, juel is what?? 21?? kurt died when juels was what??? 10?

seriously.. let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Old 05-28-06, 12:31 PM
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*flashback a few years ago*

young juelz: whats really raelly really good... killa yo im writing some rhymes right now im finishing working on this song its gonna be crack fam...nah'sayin

cam:

Juelz: nah check check it ..hol on hol on though let me finish up this verse right quick...pass that over ova here...*inhaleeeeeeeeees*
*juelz thought process*

damn what imma rhyme with bird gang....sh*t...*inhales deeply*
*taps pencil*
*inhales ...exhales*

fukk nicca...
shrimp lomein?

the whole bird gang in here like shrimp lomein in here...
*scratches that out*
nah thats wack

what else ..what else...
spurt rogaine...

yeahhhh that sh*t tight son...yo cam ..cam ... tell me what u think of this line ...

the whole bird gang in "hair" like spurts of rogaine in here.. yeah yeah yeah yeah...you get it nicca in here...in "hair"....yo niccas aint ready for dip set this year...this my year nicca...dip set we "hair" now CHEA CHEA CHEA CHEA

: capo!! lemme do the adlibs

cam: at the end of the day that sh*t garbage b.... you know what im sayin? at the end of the day nobody wanna listen to rogaine rhymes b... it dont even make no sense man...

juelz: yeah yeah yeah u righ u righ...fukk it what rhyme with bird gang...kurt....KURT COBAINE...

"the whole bird gang in here like kurt cobaine was here...."

yooooooo thats it thats it...

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*flashback a few years ago*
young juelz: whats really raelly really good... killa yo im writing some rhymes right now im finishing working on this song its gonna be crack fam...nah'sayin
cam:
Juelz: nah check check it ..hol on hol on though let me finish up this verse right quick...pass that over ova here...*inhaleeeeeeeeees*
*juelz thought process*
damn what imma rhyme with bird gang....sh*t...*inhales deeply*
*taps pencil*
*inhales ...exhales*
fukk nicca...
shrimp lomein?
the whole bird gang in here like shrimp lomein in here...
*scratches that out*
nah thats wack
what else ..what else...
spurt rogaine...
yeahhhh that sh*t tight son...yo cam ..cam ... tell me what u think of this line ...
the whole bird gang in "hair" like spurts of rogaine in here.. yeah yeah yeah yeah...you get it nicca in here...in "hair"....yo niccas aint ready for dip set this year...this my year nicca...dip set we "hair" now CHEA CHEA CHEA CHEA
: capo!! lemme do the adlibs
cam: at the end of the day that sh*t garbage b.... you know what im sayin? at the end of the day nobody wanna listen to rogaine rhymes b... it dont even make no sense man...
juelz: yeah yeah yeah u righ u righ...fukk it what rhyme with bird gang...kurt....KURT COBAINE...
"the whole bird gang in here like kurt cobaine was here...."
yooooooo thats it thats it...
cam:
Jim Jones:
JR Writer :
that's it


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