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word on the street is that some ATL cats was up here in Cincy looking for the local artist that he got into it with. and that they will be here until they get him. dude is laying low. its a shame b/c dude was gettin some shine on the radio here....1

Pal's death devastates rap star
T.I. 'not ever going to be the same'

By SONIA MURRAY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 05/07/06

Looking down at his best friend, his body riddled with bullets he was sure were meant for him, T.I. said something he knows he shouldn't have.

Not to Philant Johnson. Not to Big Phil, the friend he'd known seemingly forever.

But he did it anyway.

He lied.

"I told him that I had him and it was going to be all right," said the star rapper from Atlanta. "That was what I said. And he said, 'All right.' "

But later that morning at a Cincinnati hospital, Johnson died, the victim of a drive-by shooting following an altercation at a nightclub.

Friday, in his first interview since the incident, it was clear that T.I. (born Clifford Joseph Harris Jr.) is struggling with the loss of his longtime friend.

"I'm kind of like watching my life change right before my eyes. I'm figuring out whether or not I even want to keep doing this [expletive] right now. I don't know," said the entertainer, who is scheduled to speak at Johnson's funeral Monday afternoon at Jackson Memorial Baptist Church in Atlanta.

From nursery school on, as T.I. rose from drug felon to hip-hop superstar, Johnson was there, as friend, confidant, assistant.

T.I.'s fame and success gave both a life they could have hardly imagined as kids in southwest Atlanta. But it couldn't insulate them from the street violence they thought they had left behind.

Just hours before their last, brief exchange early Wednesday morning, Johnson, a hulking man whom many mistook for T.I.'s bodyguard, was standing at the side of the stage, holding his friend's cellphone as he performed. It was one of the many unglamorous responsibilities the 26-year-old Atlantan had as personal assistant to his best friend. But ask anyone who knew Johnson and they'll tell you he loved the job.

"He loved music, always," said his mother, Alicia Brown Cook. "And my son just told me two weeks ago . . . he was like, 'Yeah, Mama, I love my job!' He was somewhere in Cali[fornia]. Laying on the beach. "

'I lied to him'

The trouble in Cincinnati started at a party for T.I. and fellow Atlanta rapper Yung Joc at a club called the Ritz. The Atlanta group went there following T.I.'s performance at another club called Bogart's.

Unnamed witnesses told The Cincinnati Enquirer that someone onstage at the party threw money into the crowd, apparently while Yung Joc was performing.

"It was supposed to be for the ladies," one witness told the Enquirer. "But it [the money] was hitting the guys in the face and they were like, 'We got money, so why are you throwing money at us?' "

As tension escalated, "T.I. tried to play peacemaker," Yung Joc said. "And we thought everything had been settled down."

But witnesses told the Enquirer that several people followed T.I.'s vans as they left the Ritz shortly before 3 a.m.

In the interview Friday, T.I. said he wasn't clear about what started the incident at the club. "That foolishness was [not] worth even discussing," he said. "That's not what matters." But he did offer his recollection of what happened when his group left the club.

As their van headed south on I-75, T.I. said, he was sitting on the back bench on the driver's side. Johnson was in the row in front of him. Their longtime friend Doug Peterson, a manager at T.I.'s Atlanta-based Grand Hustle Records, was seated beside Johnson.

Then came the gunfire. Johnson was hit, and three other people traveling with the Atlanta entourage — Janice Gillespie, Ronald Hausley and Elijah Edwards — were injured.

T.I. helped put his bloodied friend into another vehicle headed to the hospital.

"That's when I lied to him," he said.

A song with new meaning

Those last moments still troubled the slight, 26-year-old rapper Friday as he nervously darted around his 10,000-square-foot house in south Fulton county.

First he ran down to his home theater to see how two security people were progressing with a system in need of repair. Then he bounded into his bedroom and retrieved a new fax machine and printer, still in the box, and asked a cousin and his aunt to put it together.

All the kinds of things Philant would usually handle.

"Phil was always trying to school me," T.I. recalled. "But I don't really deal with computers much. 'Cause I had him to do it."

A song came on the radio, and in a flash, T.I. disappeared behind a slammed door.

The song? His single "Live in the Sky," a ballad performed with fellow actor-musician Jamie Foxx about friends he's lost "to the grave, to the streets and to the jail cell."

"He can't take it," T.I.'s mother, Violeta Morgan, said to the growing number of relatives who gathered in the living room before going to a vigil for Johnson. "I know him like a book, and I know losing his lifelong friend is tearing him up."

'Always knew each other'

T.I. doesn't remember when he first met Johnson. Their mothers say it was at Trey's Kiddieland in southwest Atlanta.

"It just seems like as long as I can remember he was there," the rapper said. "As long as I can remember, his mama and my mama were partners. His cousin and my uncle were partners. His auntie and my grandmama stayed up the street from one another. And we just always knew each other, and it was cool."

Morgan said that if Johnson wasn't spending the night at her house, her only son, whom they call Tip, was spending the night at his.

"It was around the early parts of [Frederick Douglass] high school, eighth and ninth grade, when him and Philant were just really on a little boy-rampage," recalled Cook, Johnson's mother. "Tearing up stuff. Breaking windows. Throwing balls. Being somewhere they had no business. Or running in somebody's yard. Just typical boys."

Inside, they played video games. And Philant, both mothers recalled, was quite proficient at microwaving endless plates of Hot Pockets snacks.

"Ham, sausage, cheese, he liked all of them," Cook said. "He'd have to have two boxes right behind each other. He'd just line them up on a plate and just eat 'em."

In T.I.'s kitchen, another song replaced the sad ballad on V-103. T.I. reappeared, and rummaged in his industrial-sized fridge. He found some leftover chicken wings, grabbed the Texas Pete hot sauce and finally collapsed in the sitting area of his bedroom to talk, one eye on the Braves-Mets game on television.

His voice was lower and much, much softer than the confident roar listeners hear on his current million-selling CD, "King."

His white tank top didn't cover the long red scratches across the back of his left shoulder. "It's from the glass," he said quietly, referring to the shattered glass in his van. Then he sucked in a breath through his teeth.

"Man, we kind of thought we didn't have to live like that no more. We thought that [expletive] was over for us."

Putting trouble behind

Both men had had their share of trouble, Johnson "finding his devilment where he could," as his father, Phillip Anthony Johnson, says coyly, T.I. convicted on drug charges and jailed. But when he was last released from jail in 2004, T.I. says, "I was trying really hard to put trouble behind me."

So was Johnson, friends and relatives say. And both were succeeding.

"I can honestly say in our last conversation, he was like, 'Hannah, I'm so happy,' " recalled Hannah Kang, general manager of Grand Hustle Records. "He and his girl had just bought a house together [in Union City]. He was trying to get settled. Talking about working out. . . . He was happy."

"His daughter was student of the month at school in February," Johnson's aunt, Darlene Johnson Dobbs, said of his 6-year-old, Janae.

T.I., meanwhile, has become a multimedia celebrity a mere four albums into his career. His music currently tops five Billboard charts. His movie debut, "ATL," opened at No. 3 at the box office and earned him some favorable notice from film critics. He has diversified his interests to include an Atlanta construction company and a car customizing business.

And just this past Monday, T.I. and Johnson were engaging in his newfound hobby, golf — with basketball legend Michael Jordan.

Two days later, the shooting in Cincinnati happened.

"And I'm not ever going to be the same," T.I. said.

He sucked in his breath again.

"Success isn't measured in money," he said. "It's measured in happiness. Peace. And I ain't at peace right now. And I ain't happy. My partner's gone."

'We were going to laugh'

There was word Friday from T.I.'s record company that he planned to resume touring Tuesday, just a day after burying his friend. But the rapper says he isn't sure.

"I don't know if I'm going to be in New Orleans Tuesday," he said. "It's hard to say. Because there are so many things that Philant would be doing that ain't going to be able to be done now.

"I mean, Phil handled everything," he said of his longtime friend, who had made himself indispensable. "Like everything. He made sure the only thing I had to worry about was performing and handling the business."

But other concerns weigh more heavily.

"One of the worst parts is, at the end of the day, I'm responsible for everybody," T.I. said. "Everybody entrusts their husbands, their sons, their daughters, their brothers, cousins, their best friends — everybody entrusts them to me. And it is my responsibility to ensure their safety and their safe return. And this is one time that I could not do that."

Johnson's parents say they don't blame T.I. for their son's killing, which remained unsolved Saturday.

"As violently and traumatically as my son was killed, we've actually set that aside, because he was such a good person," his mother said. "He earned his wings."

At his modest brick home in southwest Atlanta, Johnson's father added, "I always thought when it was all said and done, when they slowed down in five, 10 or 20 years, we were going to sit right down here on this front porch and we was going to go through all the pictures and, you know, see all the famous folks he was with.

"And we were going to laugh. And he was going to tell me about all of the incidents, all of the situations him and Tip and the boys been in. . . . That's what I thought it was going to come to."

Instead, it was T.I. who came to the porch to talk this past week.

"And he said, 'Mr. Johnson, I feel like I'm going to lose a lot of things now. We've already lost Big Phil. But I know I'm going to lose a lot more now."

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I didnt read it, but wouldnt you be devastated over the death of your friend too?...
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I didnt read it, but wouldnt you be devastated over the death of your friend too?...
of course, who wouldnt be? if u read it, it just talks about whats going on with him after all the foolishness that went down........1
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that shyt was ridiculously sad to read
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man, that was kinda heartwrenching....dying over petty shyt.

but i learned this after talking to REDMAN's manager one time....that most artists come into trouble even if it's uninvited because they DON'T IMMEDIATLY LEAVE following the performance.

All these after parties, hanging out at the hotel , or just chilling in some random hood.....IS NOT GOOD AT ALL, as a celebrity your always are target, regardless how much street cred you got.
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man, that was kinda heartwrenching....dying over petty shyt.
no doubt, losing your best friend on some meaningless sh!t
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so who was the other group that was performing thats responsible for the shooting?
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you know what, and i'm not trying to be mean spirited..

but shyt like this was meant to happen.....i noticed when people get in thier most "powerful" egotistical moments ..you know the top of the world mentality...and T.I is at the top of his game...there is always something to remind you to TONE IT DOWN...like a humbling experience...believe me I KNOW.....i could be having the time of my life and some shyt will happen that will just humble my ass...but hey that's life , happiness isn't infinite on earth....that's what "heaven" is supposedly for...

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man, that was kinda heartwrenching....dying over petty shyt.

but i learned this after talking to REDMAN's manager one time....that most artists come into trouble even if it's uninvited because they DON'T IMMEDIATLY LEAVE following the performance.

All these after parties, hanging out at the hotel , or just chilling in some random hood.....IS NOT GOOD AT ALL, as a celebrity your always are target, regardless how much street cred you got.
a club like the Ritz is a big no no. so many shootings have been there. dude ppl should have researched this venue. he should have just did his concert at Bogarts and bounced. u got cats out here that will try to test you on some stupid shyt. just like that time Beans got into it with some cats at the club and Jay-Z and his ppl had to get him. u cant be in these type of clubs and think things will be peaceful everytime b/c it aint......1
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that shyt was ridiculously sad to read
Yea man, i feel real bad for T.I.
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word on the street is that some ATL cats was up here in Cincy looking for the local artist that he got into it with. and that they will be here until they get him. dude is laying low. its a shame b/c dude was gettin some shine on the radio here....1

Pal's death devastates rap star
T.I. 'not ever going to be the same'

By SONIA MURRAY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 05/07/06

Looking down at his best friend, his body riddled with bullets he was sure were meant for him, T.I. said something he knows he shouldn't have.

Not to Philant Johnson. Not to Big Phil, the friend he'd known seemingly forever.

But he did it anyway.

He lied.

"I told him that I had him and it was going to be all right," said the star rapper from Atlanta. "That was what I said. And he said, 'All right.' "

But later that morning at a Cincinnati hospital, Johnson died, the victim of a drive-by shooting following an altercation at a nightclub.

Friday, in his first interview since the incident, it was clear that T.I. (born Clifford Joseph Harris Jr.) is struggling with the loss of his longtime friend.

"I'm kind of like watching my life change right before my eyes. I'm figuring out whether or not I even want to keep doing this [expletive] right now. I don't know," said the entertainer, who is scheduled to speak at Johnson's funeral Monday afternoon at Jackson Memorial Baptist Church in Atlanta.

From nursery school on, as T.I. rose from drug felon to hip-hop superstar, Johnson was there, as friend, confidant, assistant.

T.I.'s fame and success gave both a life they could have hardly imagined as kids in southwest Atlanta. But it couldn't insulate them from the street violence they thought they had left behind.

Just hours before their last, brief exchange early Wednesday morning, Johnson, a hulking man whom many mistook for T.I.'s bodyguard, was standing at the side of the stage, holding his friend's cellphone as he performed. It was one of the many unglamorous responsibilities the 26-year-old Atlantan had as personal assistant to his best friend. But ask anyone who knew Johnson and they'll tell you he loved the job.

"He loved music, always," said his mother, Alicia Brown Cook. "And my son just told me two weeks ago . . . he was like, 'Yeah, Mama, I love my job!' He was somewhere in Cali[fornia]. Laying on the beach. "

'I lied to him'

The trouble in Cincinnati started at a party for T.I. and fellow Atlanta rapper Yung Joc at a club called the Ritz. The Atlanta group went there following T.I.'s performance at another club called Bogart's.

Unnamed witnesses told The Cincinnati Enquirer that someone onstage at the party threw money into the crowd, apparently while Yung Joc was performing.

"It was supposed to be for the ladies," one witness told the Enquirer. "But it [the money] was hitting the guys in the face and they were like, 'We got money, so why are you throwing money at us?' "

As tension escalated, "T.I. tried to play peacemaker," Yung Joc said. "And we thought everything had been settled down."

But witnesses told the Enquirer that several people followed T.I.'s vans as they left the Ritz shortly before 3 a.m.

In the interview Friday, T.I. said he wasn't clear about what started the incident at the club. "That foolishness was [not] worth even discussing," he said. "That's not what matters." But he did offer his recollection of what happened when his group left the club.

As their van headed south on I-75, T.I. said, he was sitting on the back bench on the driver's side. Johnson was in the row in front of him. Their longtime friend Doug Peterson, a manager at T.I.'s Atlanta-based Grand Hustle Records, was seated beside Johnson.

Then came the gunfire. Johnson was hit, and three other people traveling with the Atlanta entourage — Janice Gillespie, Ronald Hausley and Elijah Edwards — were injured.

T.I. helped put his bloodied friend into another vehicle headed to the hospital.

"That's when I lied to him," he said.

A song with new meaning

Those last moments still troubled the slight, 26-year-old rapper Friday as he nervously darted around his 10,000-square-foot house in south Fulton county.

First he ran down to his home theater to see how two security people were progressing with a system in need of repair. Then he bounded into his bedroom and retrieved a new fax machine and printer, still in the box, and asked a cousin and his aunt to put it together.

All the kinds of things Philant would usually handle.

"Phil was always trying to school me," T.I. recalled. "But I don't really deal with computers much. 'Cause I had him to do it."

A song came on the radio, and in a flash, T.I. disappeared behind a slammed door.

The song? His single "Live in the Sky," a ballad performed with fellow actor-musician Jamie Foxx about friends he's lost "to the grave, to the streets and to the jail cell."

"He can't take it," T.I.'s mother, Violeta Morgan, said to the growing number of relatives who gathered in the living room before going to a vigil for Johnson. "I know him like a book, and I know losing his lifelong friend is tearing him up."

'Always knew each other'

T.I. doesn't remember when he first met Johnson. Their mothers say it was at Trey's Kiddieland in southwest Atlanta.

"It just seems like as long as I can remember he was there," the rapper said. "As long as I can remember, his mama and my mama were partners. His cousin and my uncle were partners. His auntie and my grandmama stayed up the street from one another. And we just always knew each other, and it was cool."

Morgan said that if Johnson wasn't spending the night at her house, her only son, whom they call Tip, was spending the night at his.

"It was around the early parts of [Frederick Douglass] high school, eighth and ninth grade, when him and Philant were just really on a little boy-rampage," recalled Cook, Johnson's mother. "Tearing up stuff. Breaking windows. Throwing balls. Being somewhere they had no business. Or running in somebody's yard. Just typical boys."

Inside, they played video games. And Philant, both mothers recalled, was quite proficient at microwaving endless plates of Hot Pockets snacks.

"Ham, sausage, cheese, he liked all of them," Cook said. "He'd have to have two boxes right behind each other. He'd just line them up on a plate and just eat 'em."

In T.I.'s kitchen, another song replaced the sad ballad on V-103. T.I. reappeared, and rummaged in his industrial-sized fridge. He found some leftover chicken wings, grabbed the Texas Pete hot sauce and finally collapsed in the sitting area of his bedroom to talk, one eye on the Braves-Mets game on television.

His voice was lower and much, much softer than the confident roar listeners hear on his current million-selling CD, "King."

His white tank top didn't cover the long red scratches across the back of his left shoulder. "It's from the glass," he said quietly, referring to the shattered glass in his van. Then he sucked in a breath through his teeth.

"Man, we kind of thought we didn't have to live like that no more. We thought that [expletive] was over for us."

Putting trouble behind

Both men had had their share of trouble, Johnson "finding his devilment where he could," as his father, Phillip Anthony Johnson, says coyly, T.I. convicted on drug charges and jailed. But when he was last released from jail in 2004, T.I. says, "I was trying really hard to put trouble behind me."

So was Johnson, friends and relatives say. And both were succeeding.

"I can honestly say in our last conversation, he was like, 'Hannah, I'm so happy,' " recalled Hannah Kang, general manager of Grand Hustle Records. "He and his girl had just bought a house together [in Union City]. He was trying to get settled. Talking about working out. . . . He was happy."

"His daughter was student of the month at school in February," Johnson's aunt, Darlene Johnson Dobbs, said of his 6-year-old, Janae.

T.I., meanwhile, has become a multimedia celebrity a mere four albums into his career. His music currently tops five Billboard charts. His movie debut, "ATL," opened at No. 3 at the box office and earned him some favorable notice from film critics. He has diversified his interests to include an Atlanta construction company and a car customizing business.

And just this past Monday, T.I. and Johnson were engaging in his newfound hobby, golf — with basketball legend Michael Jordan.

Two days later, the shooting in Cincinnati happened.

"And I'm not ever going to be the same," T.I. said.

He sucked in his breath again.

"Success isn't measured in money," he said. "It's measured in happiness. Peace. And I ain't at peace right now. And I ain't happy. My partner's gone."

'We were going to laugh'

There was word Friday from T.I.'s record company that he planned to resume touring Tuesday, just a day after burying his friend. But the rapper says he isn't sure.

"I don't know if I'm going to be in New Orleans Tuesday," he said. "It's hard to say. Because there are so many things that Philant would be doing that ain't going to be able to be done now.

"I mean, Phil handled everything," he said of his longtime friend, who had made himself indispensable. "Like everything. He made sure the only thing I had to worry about was performing and handling the business."

But other concerns weigh more heavily.

"One of the worst parts is, at the end of the day, I'm responsible for everybody," T.I. said. "Everybody entrusts their husbands, their sons, their daughters, their brothers, cousins, their best friends — everybody entrusts them to me. And it is my responsibility to ensure their safety and their safe return. And this is one time that I could not do that."

Johnson's parents say they don't blame T.I. for their son's killing, which remained unsolved Saturday.

"As violently and traumatically as my son was killed, we've actually set that aside, because he was such a good person," his mother said. "He earned his wings."

At his modest brick home in southwest Atlanta, Johnson's father added, "I always thought when it was all said and done, when they slowed down in five, 10 or 20 years, we were going to sit right down here on this front porch and we was going to go through all the pictures and, you know, see all the famous folks he was with.

"And we were going to laugh. And he was going to tell me about all of the incidents, all of the situations him and Tip and the boys been in. . . . That's what I thought it was going to come to."

Instead, it was T.I. who came to the porch to talk this past week.

"And he said, 'Mr. Johnson, I feel like I'm going to lose a lot of things now. We've already lost Big Phil. But I know I'm going to lose a lot more now."

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this is sad, as phuck.

i lost my whole gang, tons of friends who showed me how to everything from cathing and throwing a football to robbin from zayre. to losing my girlfriend, senior year in hs, and my best friend. when i lost my best friend, i lost respect for my parents as well. they didn't even tell me, and i found out from my other best friend when he was like why didn't you go to the funeral, the flowers you parents sent were nice..................


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it's gon take a minute for ti, to be ti after this.
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yeah art, a person usually becomes either one of these two personalities:

*a very introspective person whom is conscious of the value of life
and usually leans on the closeness of his friends or family , or
spirituality as a way to deal with the pain.

or

*an insensitive , very defensive "i don't give a fukk" type of cat, because
it seems like nothing is of value, anymore particularly life...

I've been on both extremes, but lately it's been the latter, because muthaphukas just murk you for the hell of it....

reminds me of a biblical verse....

"if this world hateth me, it shall surely hate you" - Jesus
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hopefully we wont hear any more gun talk on t.i. records after somethin like this

r.i.p to tip's boy, sh!t is an extremely unfortunate wake up call to how vulnerable everyone is, no matter their social or monetary status
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