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PARKLAND, Wash. (AP/HuffPost)— A convicted felon granted clemency nine years ago by former Arkansas Governor and 2008 presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, is wanted for questioning in the shooting deaths of four police officers in Washington state.

Maurice Clemmons, the man wanted for questioning, has been convicted of five felonies in Arkansas and has been charged with eight felonies in Washington state.

The Seattle Times spoke to the prosecuting attorney in Arkansas who opposed Huckabee's clemency for Clemmons:

"This is the day I've been dreading for a long time," Larry Jegley, prosecuting attorney for Arkansas' Pulaski County said Sunday night when informed that Clemmons was being sought in connection to the killings...

Clemmons had been in jail in Pierce County for the past several months on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child.

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One of four police officers killed in the ambush fought with the suspect and may have wounded him before the officer died just outside the doorway, a sheriff's spokesman said.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told reporters that investigators were asking area medical providers to report any people wounded by gunshots.

Troyer said investigators believe two of the officers were shot dead while sitting in the shop, and a third was killed after standing up. The fourth apparently struggled with the gunman out the doorway and "gave up a good fight," getting off a few shots before he was either shot there or succumbed to earlier wounds.

"We believe there was a struggle, a commotion, a fight ... that he fought the guy all the way out the door," Troyer said.

He added, "We hope that he hit him."

The gunman burst into the coffee house Sunday morning and opened fire on the officers as they sat working on their laptops, killing the three men and one woman in what Troyer described as a targeted ambush.

Troyer said officers were looking for one male suspect who fled the scene and haven't ruled out an accomplice, possibly a getaway driver.

Troyer said investigators determined that a hoax call from a person in nearby Tacoma led officers to believe the gunman was on foot and still near the coffee shop. A number of officers spent part of the afternoon carefully searching buildings close by.
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Troyer said the attack was clearly targeted at the officers, not a robbery gone bad.

"This was more of an execution. Walk in with the specific mindset to shoot police officers," he said.

Troyer said the officers – all from the Lakewood Police Department – were catching up on paperwork at the beginning of their shifts when they were attacked at 8:15 a.m. Sunday.

"There were marked patrol cars outside and they were all in uniform," Troyer said.

With no known suspects, there was no indication of any connection with the Halloween night shooting of a Seattle police officer. The suspect in that shooting remains hospitalized.

"We won't know if it's a copycat effect or what it was until we get the case solved," Troyer said. "We don't even have a suspect ID right now."

Lakewood Mayor Douglas Richardson said the names of the victims would be released as soon as extended family members were notified.

In a statement, Richardson said the officers, part of the city's 100-member police force, had been with the department since it was organized five years ago. He called the crime "our most tragic event in Lakewood's 14 years as a city."

Troyer estimated that a couple of hundred officers from the Washington State Patrol and multiple surrounding police agencies in the area were at the crime scene, with some coming on their own time.

"We have no motive at all," Troyer said. "I don't think when we find out what it is, it will be anything that makes any sense or be worth it."

Two employees and a few other customers were in the shop during the attack. All are being interviewed by the Pierce County Sheriff's investigators.

"Some are in shock. They are very upset," Troyer said. "They are the ones who are going to put together for us how this happened."

The Forza Coffee Shop, part of a popular local chain, is on a side street near McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, about 35 miles south of Seattle. The shop is in a small retail center alongside two restaurants, a cigar store and a nail salon.

Brad Carpenter, founder and owner of Forza Coffee, said his staff was OK and being interviewed by police, and that his main concern was for the families of the police officers.

"I'm a retired police officer, so this really hits close to home for me," said Carpenter, of nearby Gig Harbor.

Troyer said the Lakewood officers were two blocks outside their jurisdiction, and the coffee shop was a popular place for officers from surrounding jurisdictions to meet and share information.

Streets around the coffee shop were blocked off late Sunday morning, and a police helicopter hovered over a large crowd of investigators. TV video showed police taking possession of a pickup truck parked in a grocery store in Parkland.

"We are looking at some people. We are looking at some cars. We are looking at some residences," Troyer said.

Troyer said investigators were checking surveillance video from multiple sources, trying to identify a possible getaway car.

Dave Gabrielson, a clerk at Foot Mart about a block away from the coffee shop, told the newspaper all was quiet when he opened the store at 8 a.m. About 30 minutes later, "All of a sudden a million cops were zooming up and down the road," Gabrielson said.

He said he saw officers bring a police dog into a nearby apartment complex.

Last month, Seattle police officer Timothy Brenton was shot and killed Halloween night as he was sitting in a cruiser with trainee Britt Sweeney. Sweeney was grazed in the neck.

Authorities say the man charged with that shooting also firebombed four police vehicles in October as part of a "one-man war" against law enforcement. Christopher Monfort, 41, was arrested after being wounded in a firefight with police days after the Seattle shooting. He remains hospitalized in stable condition, the hospital said Sunday.

The officers killed Sunday were a patrol squad made up of three officers and their sergeant. No threats had been made against them or other officers in the region, sheriff's officials said. Their families have been notified.

"We lost people we care about. We're working to find out who did this and deal with him." Pierce County Sheriff Paul Pastor told reporters at the scene.

Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire said she was "shocked and horrified" by the killings.

"Our police put their lives on the line every day, and tragedies like this remind us of the risks they continually take to keep our communities safe," she said in a written statement. "My heart goes out to the family, friends and co-workers of these officers, as well as the entire law enforcement community."

At Rollies Tavern near the coffee house, the plasma TVs usually tuned to football had Northwest Cable News on. Three bar patrons live next door to the coffee house.

Jerry Arnold, 45, was in bed when he was awakened by sirens. He's lived there seven years and never seen anything close to Sunday's scene.

"I hope they get them. I can't sleep until they do," he said. "Those guys could be hiding in my backyard."
The democrats won't attack him on this, but the Republicans will try to get at him in the primaries. It may stick with idiotic conservatives.

This is either the end of his presidential aspirations, or absolutely nothing. Depends on how dirty the Republicans are in 2012.
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yea democrats aren't dirty enough to go the Willie Horton route on this but the republicans like you said definitely will during the primaries.
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taht sucks, i was kind of hoping for huckabee to make the gop primaries exciting in a few years.
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Huck let a brotha off? I might have to get on my Chuck Norris and support this man if Barry keeps fukkin up.
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Without even visiting HuffPost beforehand, I knew it was going to be a big headline on the main page.

What is the bigger story: who pardoned him, or the fact that he's still running around? Really!

Playing politics with the story reminds me why I hate Democrats and Republicans. They are always looking for a way use Black people for their political games! Idiots.
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Without even visiting HuffPost beforehand, I knew it was going to be a big headline on the main page.
What is the bigger story: who pardoned him, or the fact that he's still running around? Really!
Playing politics with the story reminds me why I hate Democrats and Republicans. They are always looking for a way use Black people for their political games! Idiots.
Was with you until here. If he was white, Huffington Post would have been JUST as partisan and hackish.
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Was with you until here. If he was white, Huffington Post would have been JUST as partisan and hackish.
I doubt it. Black criminality generates webpage hits for liberal and conservative websites. They exploit it in different ways.

I remember how HuffPost kept the picture of the Black man that'd been caught sexing the horse on the main page for several days.

To my knowledge, I've never seen them dedicate as much coverage to comparable white behavior, which dwarfs Black cases.
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I doubt it. Black criminality generates webpage hits for liberal and conservative websites. They exploit it in different ways.
I remember how HuffPost kept the picture of the Black man that'd been caught sexing the horse on the main page for several days.
To my knowledge, I've never seen them dedicate as much coverage to comparable white behavior, which dwarfs Black cases.
so it's because he is black not because he fukked a horse 3 times getting caught consecutively?

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It's obvious your blinded by your own bias. IMO even if the Huffington post did comparable exposure it would never compare to what many hip hop forums/sites and their hateful members would say about white people in general....I've seen some downright filthy disgusting rhetoric said about all white people & the idiot fools who co-sign one another as if it's the gospel...Fing clowns!
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Mike Hukabee a nigger lover, scust. This man accused as terrible as he is/was, was clearly distrubed and the crimes he commited the first time was on a crime spree when he was a child. I don't think any child deserves a 108 years in prison.
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I for one am glad that this increases Palin's chance at getting the nomination leaving romney as the only competition...

Huckabee is a nice guy though but his kindheartedness leads him towards the path of compromise and liberalism in some areas

To be fair though the guy Huckabee let go at the time was only 16 and got charged like 80 yrs for robbery without a weapon...some may think thats a bit unreasonable

However there is a school of thought when it comes to compromise versus accepting violent people for who they are and that you can't really change them versus rehabilitation....the movie watchmen and the character Roschache go over this debate with this fantastic scene that does make a lot of sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ng3yLZ9IE
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This scene from watchmen displays the debate between compromise and not compromising...and pretty much is just like what happened with huckabee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45V6db9CKcc
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I for one am glad that this increases Palin's chance at getting the nomination leaving romney as the only competition..
Keep on believing....you poor sap

I bet you have that palin in shorts poster in your bedroom/basement...

too bad the real world works like this

Governor who finished the job(with some mistakes)>>>>>>failed governor
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