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Old 11-25-09, 07:20 PM
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Been almost a week... The results are astonishing. I can pull 2-3 MORE sets with ease! The soreness isnt there anymore after workouts. I have unlimited energy. I cant even explain it. I feel limitless. I worked my arms and chest out today, ALLL day. Non stop... every 2 hrs i did 3 sets of 12... bi,tri's and top and bottom chest.

Im going to unload in 2 weeks... And take a break on creatine. Im excited to see what i can do next load.

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Old 11-26-09, 12:43 AM
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yea i was thinking bout taking some but i think imma try it

im taking this whey and its showing some decent gains but i heard the first week of taking creating u gain 7 -10 lbs.
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seeing as the HAMMER prefers the slimmer ripped look and thinks being all big and bulky went out with mothafawking suede ballys and the ultimate warrior, creatine will probably do nothing for the HAMMER, only time i hear about fast muscle gains is when SCUMBAGS are on the juice anyway
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He'll lose both his weight and strength gains due to his muscles no longer holding the water they once were. And don't even try to tell me that wouldn't happen.
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He'll lose both his weight and strength gains due to his muscles no longer holding the water they once were. And don't even try to tell me that wouldn't happen.
This is what I've heard. I stay away from it, and just stick to the Whey powder. It actually has a little creatine in it anyway i think.
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Gains with creatine for one month >> gains without creatine for one month.

Yes, this includes after the drop off.

Creatine supplies your body with energy. What do you think this extra energy does? Not put your muscles under more tension, tearing more fibers than they normally would? Lol. You understand the basics of muscle growth right? Than how can sit there and say there is no difference when you're recruiting more muscles fibers while on creatine compared to when you're off it?

After the the water weight and some strength drops off, you're still in a better position than if you never took it.

Taken from studies and personal experience.

You've never used creatine. What are you basing your babbling from? Your HS coach again?
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Gains with creatine for one month >> gains without creatine for one month.
Yes, this includes after the drop off.
Creatine supplies your body with energy. What do you think this extra energy does? Not put your muscles under more tension, tearing more fibers than they normally would? Lol. You understand the basics of muscle growth right? Than how can sit there and say there is no difference when you're recruiting more muscles fibers while on creatine compared to when you're off it?
After the the water weight and some strength drops off, you're still in a better position than if you never took it.
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You've never used creatine. What are you basing your babbling from? Your HS coach again?
You're comparing taking creatine to to simply working out without supplements, and that's an unfair comparison. oof course taking creatine is better then working out with supplements.

But there are other supplements that can be used that give muscles what they need to repair after a workout, like whey protein. Whey protein is simply a fast-release protein that'll give muscles what they need right after a work out, the real "building blocks" of muscles, not just water retention.

When you stop taking creatine, your muscles simply will not output the same amount of energy because they're no longer retaining as much water. What's the point if you're not getting everything you could get with a simple protein supplement. And that's not even worrying about the constant risk of dehydrating, muscles pulls and tears, etc.

With whey protein is no false sense of strength, or a drop off afterwards, it's a legit way of strengthening and growing your muscles.
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You're comparing taking creatine to to simply working out without supplements, and that's an unfair comparison. oof course taking creatine is better then working out with supplements.

But there are other supplements that can be used that give muscles what they need to repair after a workout, like whey protein. Whey protein is simply a fast-release protein that'll give muscles what they need right after a work out, the real "building blocks" of muscles, not just water retention.

When you stop taking creatine, your muscles simply will not output the same amount of energy because they're no longer retaining as much water. What's the point if you're not getting everything you could get with a simple protein supplement. And that's not even worrying about the constant risk of dehydrating, muscles pulls and tears, etc.

With whey protein is no false sense of strength, or a drop off afterwards, it's a legit way of strengthening and growing your muscles.
I wanna start off by saying protein and creatine are not competing supplements. You always compare the two with a "one or the other" tone when in reality protein and creatine is the most common supplement stack.

All protein you ingest goes through the same hydrolysis process, only speed varies. Whey protein comes from plants. Breaking it down is a lot faster than breaking down fibers from meats. That is the only reason it's favored over any other source of protein after a workout. The convenience of whey is unmatched. It's something you could take even if you aren't working out.

But the difference is you don't have to buy whey supplements to experience its effects. Creatine you do.

Creatine is used to increase the amount of creatine phosphate you have in your muscle tissue. To understand the significence of creatine phosphate you gotta understand ATP. ATP simply stores energy. ATP has adenosine and 3 phosphate groups bond together; the last bond holds the most potential energy. When that last bond is broken, energy is released that fuels a metabolic chemical reaction; in this case muscle contraction. ATP is now ADP because there's only 2 phosphate groups left. For this discussion ADP isn't of much use. Creatine phosphate is then used to replenish ATP. The more creatine phosphate you have on hand, the more ATP can be replenished during bursts of all out effort. Consequently, you can push harder, lengthen your workouts, and recovery quickly because creatine intensifies the pace of energy production in your muscle cells. So you're "water retention = strength" theory is shot.

Do you see how both products aren't in the same league? Creatine gives you a plethora of energy. Protein, in this scenario, build muscle.

Because you have MORE energy while on creatine, you put MORE stress on your muscles, resulting in recruiting MORE fibers for building said muscle. When you stop taking creatine you no longer have a plethora of energy. This is where feeling weaker comes into play. However, the growth your muscles experienced don't suddenly disappear.


As for my comparison, I don't know how that wasn't fair. I'll rephrase anyway:

If everything else was the same, a month(or any length of time) on creatine >> a month(or any length of time) without it.... even after the drop off.

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Stick to the whey protein, leave the creatine alone, I've seen one it has done to my Uncle, hes 50 now but in terrible shape thanks to creatine. Whey takes longer, but its worth it, and you feel good about earning and working for it overtime.
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you 2 (truth & jedi)are just misinformed. creatine and whey are 2 completely different things. you can't compare them directly to each other. you're comparing apple cider to orange marmalade.
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you 2 (truth & jedi)are just misinformed. creatine and whey are 2 completely different things. you can't compare them directly to each other. you're comparing apple cider to orange marmalade.
Nah I take whey protein. But I've personally witnessed someone suffer from LONG term use of creatine. Their natural body chemicals are so thrown off. I'm just trying to warn though, believe what yall want, I ain't hating.
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