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Old 04-22-08, 12:24 PM
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If you caught NYOIL’s “What Up My Wigger Wigga” last year you might catch some major deja vu when you heard the hook of Nas‘ new song yesterday. A case of straight chomping or great minds thinking alike? Unkut Dot Com asked NYOIL to speak his piece on the topic:

Nas is that *****!

Yeah y’all Nas is that ***** with his title screen printed on a black tee repping for *****s world wide!

I’ve always said that from time to time in the creative stream of things there comes an artist that breaks the mold. That steps to the status quo and smashes it’s protective walls as if they were building blocks. That artist like this create the atmosphere for change in whatever industry they occupy. Artist like these establish a foundation that inspires other artist to free themselves of the yoke that was the stat quo. They in their own way speak Truth to power and shine a searing light on the lies and mediocrity that blind us.

But let me be clear Nas is not that *****.

When an artist like this comes along he strikes fear into the hearts of the gatekeepers. In layman’s terms Record execs **** bricks because their cookie cutter artist wont cut it any longer. They may actually be required to do what they’re paid to and develop talent. Search for talent and ultimately, GOD FORBID, give the PEOPLE what they want. This has happened before people. The upheaval an artist like this causes is unacceptable to the gatekeepers of the status quo. You see, there’s a lot of money in keeping your kids dumb at stake. So labels have devised a nefarious technique to counteract the effect of these types of artist.

But before I go on I must stress that Nas is NOT that *****.

The technique for counteracting these artist is as follows. They will never sign, do business with, or even acknowledge the Artist of Change. If pressed they will admit to having “been up on” this Artist in a hallow attempt at affirming their hipness. When asked if they plan on working with this artist they will give a random list of excuses not limited to “He’s hot but…that kind of music doesn’t sell”, “She’s the ****…but people ain’t ready for that”, “I wish I could bring them here but right now ‘insert corporate higher ups name here’ is on some other ****” All the while they are changing pace, making adjustments, having conference calls, and restructuring. making the final preparations to counteract this Artist of Change. The end game plays like this: they find an artist on their current roster that they can refashion to fit the basic mold of the Artist of Change. If they dress him up like, or give him a similar message to the Artist of Change and put hundreds of thousands in promotional dollars behind the Stat Quo Artist they can undermine and even usurper the Artist of Change. You can always identify the Stat Quo Artist from the Artist of Change because when asked about his “New image” or “New Direction” he is hard pressed to answer sincerely or intelligibly. In fact the Stat Quo Artist will blather on in circles clumsily during interviews stumbling over his own ignorance of what his “New Direction” is.

And after hearing your interviews, seeing the title of your upcoming LP, and hearing your “leaked” song “Be A ****** Too” I can say without doubt….

Nas you are THAT *****!

Nas you’re that ***** that pretends to have a grasp on the social quagmire that our people are stuck in and yet cannot for the life of you articulate or justify your position on this obvious plea for controversy. Does this brother realize that his attempts at diffusing the word “******” by making it some all inclusive colloquialism to represent all races is as weak as the beat he spit it too? Does he realize that when Robert Schwartz decides to stop being a ****** all he has to do is change his look. maybe trade in the bapes and backpack put on a suit and he’s right and exact. When Robert Yung decides he’s no longer a ***** he can be whatever an person of Asian decent can be in the country stereo types not withstanding. When Robert Rodriguez decides to stop being a ****** he can become a proud man of Latin descent. However for Robert Jenkins who’s grandparents where ******S, blown over by fire hoses and beat within an inch of their lives, when the term meant what it will always mean despite his attempts to make it a term of endearment. Whom despite his affluence or allegiance has to be as scared as a runaway slave when pulled over for driving black or shopping black, or standing in a group of more than 3 in his own neighborhood while black or any of the number of things blacks can do innocently while being black and end up dead because the cop who shot him 50 times like Shawn Bell or 42 like Amadou Diallo didn’t consider himself a ******…We’re the only race that embraces our disgrace, and now you would have everyone else sing along with us in our shame.

My ***** Nas.

You’ve been everything they ever told you to be. Nasty Nas, Nastradamas, Nas Escobar. And now you’re their *****.

At what point are you going to be a man?

Last year I put out a song called “What up my Wigger Wigga!” It spoke to people of all races that have used the term ***** so cavalier by using the racist terms that are assigned to their respective races. I was blown away at how similar our two songs were. However yours held the exact opposite message. It was at that moment I realized who Nas was, and who I was.

Sam Cooke sang it best…”A change gone come”.

You would do well to heed those words.

Come back brother…

You can contact NYOIL over at nyoil1.ning.com
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Old 04-22-08, 12:27 PM
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wow....he speaks the truth, no matter what NAS can never take the sting outta that word:

Does he realize that when Robert Schwartz decides to stop being a ****** all he has to do is change his look. maybe trade in the bapes and backpack put on a suit and he’s right and exact. When Robert Yung decides he’s no longer a ***** he can be whatever an person of Asian decent can be in the country stereo types not withstanding. When Robert Rodriguez decides to stop being a ****** he can become a proud man of Latin descent. However for Robert Jenkins who’s grandparents where ******S, blown over by fire hoses and beat within an inch of their lives, when the term meant what it will always mean despite his attempts to make it a term of endearment.
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nas got sonned again as usual
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Old 04-22-08, 12:37 PM
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Nas you’re that ***** that pretends to have a grasp on the social quagmire that our people are stuck in and yet cannot for the life of you articulate or justify your position on this obvious plea for controversy.


It's too early to tell. I like the way this artist wrote this. Debate is always a good thing. But, let time tell on this. We havent heard the finished product yet. This isn't an official single I believe, just something to jumpoff a mixtape. As far as articulation is concerned....when has Nas EVER been articulate. When have MOST rappers been articulate. 95% of your average emcees sound like special kids when they do interviews. I wasnt the biggest Pac fan, but he was a helluva speaker. Nas speaks better when on the mic. He reminds me of people who stutter. They sound horrible when speaking directly to them. But let them sing, or do poetry and they shine. Let's hear the finished product first before judging.

Consider as well, this NYOIL is an ARTIST with a product to sell, who was extrememly fast to point out he had a song similar to Nas' song and that he felt Nas version is the carbon copy. Somebody's lookin for a deal. He's saying that Nas is NOT the One, but NYOIL IS the One.
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NYOIL fails to mention that HE'S only trying to get attention for attacking Nas and playing the role of "the guy against the guy who is getting attention". He sees this as an opportunity. He's no better than what he's attempting to portray Nas as.

"That guy's not the real activist, I'M really being real though".

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NYOIL fails to mention that HE'S only trying to get attention for attacking Nas and playing the role of "the guy against the guy who is getting attention". He sees this as an opportunity. He's no better than what he's attempting to portray Nas as.
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Nas you’re that ***** that pretends to have a grasp on the social quagmire that our people are stuck in and yet cannot for the life of you articulate or justify your position on this obvious plea for controversy.
It's too early to tell. I like the way this artist wrote this. Debate is always a good thing. But, let time tell on this. We havent heard the finished product yet. This isn't an official single I believe, just something to jumpoff a mixtape. As far as articulation is concerned....when has Nas EVER been articulate. When have MOST rappers been articulate. 95% of your average emcees sound like special kids when they do interviews. I wasnt the biggest Pac fan, but he was a helluva speaker. Nas speaks better when on the mic. He reminds me of people who stutter. They sound horrible when speaking directly to them. But let them sing, or do poetry and they shine. Let's hear the finished product first before judging.
Consider as well, this NYOIL is an ARTIST with a product to sell, who was extrememly fast to point out he had a song similar to Nas' song and that he felt Nas version is the carbon copy. Somebody's lookin for a deal. He's saying that Nas is NOT the One, but NYOIL IS the One.
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NYOIL fails to mention that HE'S only trying to get attention for attacking Nas and playing the role of "the guy against the guy who is getting attention". He sees this as an opportunity. He's no better than what he's attempting to portray Nas as.
"That guy's not the real activist, I'M really being real though".
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I cant hate on him.. he presents some good points. I'd say lets just wait to hear the whole record first though.
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wow....he speaks the truth, no matter what NAS can never take the sting outta that word:
Does he realize that when Robert Schwartz decides to stop being a ****** all he has to do is change his look. maybe trade in the bapes and backpack put on a suit and he’s right and exact. When Robert Yung decides he’s no longer a ***** he can be whatever an person of Asian decent can be in the country stereo types not withstanding. When Robert Rodriguez decides to stop being a ****** he can become a proud man of Latin descent. However for Robert Jenkins who’s grandparents where ******S, blown over by fire hoses and beat within an inch of their lives, when the term meant what it will always mean despite his attempts to make it a term of endearment.
I don't think Nas was calling them n****s in the sense of that they act black, but rather in the sense that at some point we've all been oppressed in this country and we're all viewed as second class citizens. In the eyes of white people we're all n****s, bigots hate Jews just as much as they hate us and in that sense we're all n****s in America.
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I don't think Nas was calling them n****s in the sense of that they act black, but rather in the sense that at some point we've all been oppressed in this country and we're all viewed as second class citizens. In the eyes of white people we're all n****s, bigots hate Jews just as much as they hate us and in that sense we're all n****s in America.
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NYOIL fails to mention that HE'S only trying to get attention for attacking Nas and playing the role of "the guy against the guy who is getting attention". He sees this as an opportunity. He's no better than what he's attempting to portray Nas as.
"That guy's not the real activist, I'M really being real though".
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Thank you.. Same thing happened when Hiphop is dead came out... Every 'rapper' claimed to be offended
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NY Oil has no music in stores to sell........... he's more along the lines of an Immortal Technique wants people to listen and if that means they should download, burn, or bootleg his music it sits well with him because he wants them to hear his message by any means.


Nas is being controversial JUST to sell records...... because if he wasn't he would just articulate himself in an online video...... why does he have to say "Go cop the album to find out" that's bullshyt.............
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you got one person (Nas) who actually talking about real shyt. And you got another person (this dumb azz writer) who sits back and critiques work done by others. So who's actually done something worth talking about between the two.

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Nas is a rapper, the fact that we expect so much from him is a damn shame.

It reminds me of that Chappelle skit about Ja, 'Where is Ja!'
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