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Old 11-08-09, 03:06 PM
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piece of dog shyt, he is quoating the text wrongly..in arabic its a statement of law and justice, and it doesn't word like that..
So, how is what he posted not from Al Qur'an? (as claimed) Also, what about the many Islamics who do not speak Arabic, but English, is what John Stallion posted incorrect? (you mentioned what it says in Arabic) If that is true, then aren't the English-speaking Muslims reading what you would consider to be wrong? And of course it is about justice and law, the people who are using these words to justify their acts of violence against others, think that they are bringing justice to "disbelievers."

"Piece of dog shyt?" LOL You sure you don't want to say, "Piece of swine shyt," I mean, you have done nothing but talk about throwing swine at people.
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So, how is what he posted not from Al Qur'an? (as claimed) Also, what about the many Islamics who do not speak Arabic, but English, is what John Stallion posted incorrect? (you mentioned what it says in Arabic) If that is true, then aren't the English-speaking Muslims reading what you would consider to be wrong? And of course it is about justice and law, the people who are using these words to justify their acts of violence against others, think that they are bringing justice to "disbelievers."
Allah gave the worsd to the prophet in arabic, not hebrew or latin..ya dig?
The english trans cannot fully conduct the meaning with right interpretation what the arabic does..ie Furquan.

Yes, i agree, i do not salute the man for goin ape shyt and slaying folks..the prophet did not fight like this..come on!

Thats not the Islamic way..its the emotional and crazy antics..
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Allah gave the worsd to the prophet in arabic, not hebrew or latin..ya dig?
The english trans cannot fully conduct the meaning with right interpretation what the arabic does..ie Furquan.
Yes, i agree, i do not salute the man for goin ape shyt and slaying folks..the prophet did not fight like this..come on!
Thats not the Islamic way..its the emotional and crazy antics..
Wait a minute, weren't you in another thread applauding what Hasan did at Fort Hood? Correct me if I am wrong. However, now you are saying that, "You do not salute the man?"
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Wait a minute, weren't you in another thread applauding what Hasan did at Fort Hood? Correct me if I am wrong. However, now you are saying that, "You do not salute the man?"
not saluting him, or any dude who goes ape shyt..

But i gave a little dance and cracked on the fact it happened in the military base, the same folks who are dropping and killing muslim kids..ya dig?

so yeahh, what happened, it was a slap in the face..
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I am kinda surprised that they could stand there without getting attacked by a random patriotic American.
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I am kinda surprised that they could stand there without getting attacked by a random patriotic American.
its NYC, theres a crazy person shouting in every corner and you learn to ignore them so nobody is really paying attention, but at the end of the video they almost get bumrushed by a hassidic jew LOL

you can tell by their body language they know they can get it at any moment though
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found an interesting researched article that independent minds might be interested in...it basically says Hasan was a top researcher and psyops specialist at Fort Hood involved in some experiments designed to "electronically" prepare soldiers (by erasing certain memories) for return to combat (as part of the army's Warrior Combat Reset Program), and that the Fort Hood massacre was the result of a group of soldiers experiencing violent side effects which caused them to relive battlefield experiences and consequently shoot up the place...and that Hasan is taking the fall under the "angry Muslim" cover story.


Fort Hood PSYOP Test Fails, Leaves 13 US Soldiers Dead, Muslim Officer Blamed

By: Sorcha Faal

In what one Russian Military Analyst (jokingly?) speculated could possibly be a “very sick” way of publicizing a new American movie opening this week about the US Pentagons decades long experiments in mind-control technology (“The Men Who Stare At Goats”), has instead, according to these reports, resulted in a tragic massacre of at least 13 US Soldiers preparing for deployment to the Iraq war from the giant US military base of Fort Hood, Texas.

From Western propaganda news media reports on this massacre the American people are being told that a US Army Military Trained Psychiatrist, Major Nidal Malik Hasan [photo top left], became despondent over his recently receiving orders to deploy to Iraq and in “typical” lone gunman fashion “decided” to open fire on hundreds of his fellow soldiers killing and wounding them without discrimination.

Completing the “new legend” (in almost record time too) about this “lone gunman” being made responsible for this massacre, the Western propaganda machines are reporting such idiocies as Major Hasan having previously “complained to relatives of harassment by fellow-officers mocking him for being Middle Eastern” (Major Hasan’s parents came from small Palestinian town near Jerusalem) and his “attracting the attention of police six months ago for internet postings analyzing the motives of suicide bombers that was not formally investigated”.

Interesting to note in these reports, however, about Major Hasan is his past psychiatric training, paid for by the US Military, at Virginia Tech University where he graduated from that schools Center for Applied Behavior Systems with a degree in biochemistry, a school which FSB reports have long warned “is most likely” one of the US Department of Defenses top PSYOP training centers and where in April, 2007, it suffered the worst school massacre in US history when a Chinese student named Seung-Hui Cho, reported to be a subject to mind-control experiments, single-handedly gunned down 32 fellow students.

Even more interesting to note is that from the initial chaotic scene of the Fort Hood massacre not just the wounded Major Hanson taking into custody, but so were three other “alleged” gunmen, two of whom were released leaving one, at last report, still in US Army custody.

Now to understand the circumstances that placed Major Hasan at Fort Hood in the first place one has to understand that he was one of the US Militaries top PSYOP specialists and had received his medical degree, with honors, from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland, in 2001, and did his internship at Walter Reed Army Hospital.

Major Hasan then became one of the top researchers at the US Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress in the field this US Military funded organization stated was:
“Center scientists are actively engaged in studies of military deployment, combat stress and the mental health of active duty, Guard and Reserve and veterans. This research helps military command (leaders, physicians and mental health providers) mitigate, respond to and foster recovery from the consequences of war and other military extreme environments that can occur in combat, peacekeeping and humanitarian assistance.

In addition, a primary focus of the Center is conducting studies of the impact of deployment on servicemen and women and their families. This research includes surveillance of psychiatric problems among battle injured soldiers, and measuring the psychological effect of treating severely injured and disfigured soldiers deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan on health care providers at institutions like Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the National Naval Medical Center.”
From his position at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress, Major Hasan became one of the originators of what is called the US Army's “Warrior Combat Reset Program” set up to help American soldiers returning from war zones, or being redeployed to them, cope with what is called post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and which according to these reports led to his being at Fort Hood to “electronically prepare” an experimental group of US Soldiers for their return to the Iraq war zone.

Important to be understood about these reports is their detailing that nearly all of the US Military Forces are suffering what is termed a “catastrophic” level of stress disorders, murders, rapes and suicides so bad that American commanders are now warning that the readiness of their forces in is danger of “outright collapse”, and which is no wonder being that in just three short months this will become the longest war in US history.

Making the recycling of these battle hardened US Soldiers (to keep killing and dying for reasons they don’t even know about anymore) even more crucial are new American Military reports stating that over one-third of “Americans ages 17-24 are unqualified for military service because of physical and medical issues.”

So to yesterday’s massacre at Fort Hood, and Major Hasan’s “true role” in it, we need to turn to a little known, but extremely shocking case filed in the United States this past spring by a San Francisco lawyer named Gordon Erspamer and alleging:

“That [US] government scientists conducted human experiments at Edgewood is not in question. “The program involved testing of nerve agents, nerve agent antidotes, psychochemicals, and irritants," according to a 1994 General Accounting Office (now the Government Accountability Office) report (PDF). At least 7,800 US servicemen served "as laboratory rats or guinea pigs" at Edgewood, alleges Erspamer's complaint, filed in January in a federal district court in California. The Department of Veterans Affairs has reported that military scientists tested hundreds of chemical and biological substances on them, including VX, tabun, soman, sarin, cyanide, LSD, PCP, and World War I-era blister agents like phosgene and mustard. The full scope of the tests, however, may never be known. As a CIA official explained to the GAO, referring to the agency's infamous MKULTRA mind-control experiments, "The names of those involved in the tests are not available because names were not recorded or the records were subsequently destroyed." Besides, said the official, some of the tests involving LSD and other psychochemical drugs "were administered to an undetermined number of people without their knowledge.”
And among these “experiments” conducted on US Soldiers by their government, and according to FSB files was a “research specialty” of Major Hasan’s, one was one called Radio Hypnotic Intracerebral Control Electronic Dissolution of Memory (RHIC-EDOM) which was pioneered for the US Military in the 1960’s by New York University Professor J. Anthony Deutsch who…“indicated that the mind is a transmitter and if too much information is received, like too many vehicles on a crowded freeway, the brain ceases to transmit. The Professor indicated that an excess of acetyl choline in the brain can interfere with the memory process and control. He indicated excess amounts of acetyl choline can be artificially produced, through both the administration of drugs or through the use of radio waves. The process is called Electronic Dissolution of Memory (EDOM). The memory transmission can be stopped for as long as the radio signal continues.”

So strong was the American Military and Intelligence establishments’ belief that only by “erasing” the previous “battle stained” memories of their Soldiers could they be made to continue killing and dying that in 2007 they contracted with Russia’s Psychotechnology Research Institute in Moscow to purchase a system called Semantic Stimuli Response Measurements Technology (SSRM Tek) which is a software-based mind reader that tests a subject's involuntary response to subliminal messages and which was used by the Soviet Military on Russian troops being redeployed to Afghanistan.

Unfortunately for the Americans, and who were undoubtedly warned by their Russian counterparts about this, the previous Soviet experiments using SSRM Tek software combined with RHIC-EDOM technology had a very dangerous side-effect of “triggering immediate battle memories” instead of “erasing” them and resulting in masses of Russian troops who were undergoing these experiments to “erupt” in “immediate violence” which left an estimated 37 of them dead when they began (for no apparent reason) to begin firing upon each other.

In the United States today 13 American Soldiers lie dead, and many more are wounded leaving countless numbers of wives, children, fathers and mothers to mourn over their seemingly senseless killing.

But, like the events of 9/11, the assassinations of their President John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert, and the great civil rights leader Martin Luther King have shown us, these Americans have been well schooled in seeing only what they are told to see when tragedies like these, and Fort Hood now, occur.

Sometimes the childlike stories concocted by their propaganda masters to explain these horrific events are enough to placate the American people, but one has to wonder when at least some of them will wake up to the stark and brutal truth about what is happening to them. One can only wonder if these Americans had demanded the truth before if these Soldiers were massacred would still be alive?

That is not in our knowing. But what is in our knowing is this, before they awaken from their long slumber these Americans can expect many more such deaths. We’re sure their propaganda organs are up to the task.
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I'd like to see more co-oberating evidence, but the connections it makes in some areas is very interesting...
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Took long enough for the conspiracy theorist to start spewing their usual garbage. The only thing that guy was corrupted with is Islam. That religion preaches hate and ignorance. Just look st all the Islamic countries and see how messed up they are.
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I want to give props to SOHH for letting people type their mind here. I was on huffingtonpost last night setting the record straight that Nadal Malik Hasans actions were absolutely sane and logical steps to take due to the unrepentant and unreforming ways and nature of the US military, US government and the lies and deceptions it conjures up.

All of those comments were erased. The idea that there is free speech on those corporate hackk sites is ridiculous. It was mostly moderator erased comments and apparently all you have to do is be a American imperialist hackk from either party and hit the report button and your comments will be erased. None of my comments violated their terms of posting but they all got erased. Criticism of the military is not permitted on the for profit corporate propaganda media. Damn the media the state propaganda that flows from the corporatocracy.

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I want to give props to SOHH for letting people type their mind here. I was on huffingtonpost last night setting the record straight that Nadal Malik Hasans actions were absolutely sane and logical steps to take due to the unrepentant and unreforming ways and nature of the US military, US government and the lies and deceptions it conjures up.

All of those comments were erased. The idea that there is free speech on those corporate hackk sites is ridiculous. It was mostly moderator erased comments and apparently all you have to do is be a American imperialist hackk from either party and hit the report button and your comments will be erased. None of my comments violated their terms of posting but they all got erased. Criticism of the military is not permitted on the for profit corporate propaganda media. Damn the media the state propaganda that flows from the corporatocracy.

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apparently the position or opinion that the US should have troops in afghanistan has been discredited because...........the musilim ktl cabal says so

Milton are you this slow in real life? No one here is disputing your right to an opinion, you community college graduating 28 yr old club promoter. The fukk are you yapping about intellectualism for? Because you suscribe online to the New York Times?

No one here is disputing your right, youre not that important. IN EVERY THREAD, about Afghanistan, your ARGUMENT gets ripped to pieces. The fact that you consistently parrot the same bullshiit arguments that gets ripped to pieces, is why we clown you. You are a Black Sly Stallion in this regard

nothing more nothing less.

I could make a fukking Miltons Greatest Hits Thread on all the stupid shiit that has come out of your mouth. NO ONE on this site takes you serious bruh. And I take pride in the fact that if you ask anyone on this site, I did it to ya bruh
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The real issue that was being discussed was does supporting isreal make somebody a sellout, are all the black christians that support isreal for biblical reasons or black people that convert to judiasm or black people that are hesitant to be associated with certain activities by the palestinians sellouts?
First of you, we all know that you are completely ignorant about the Middle Eastern conflict, so I dont see why you are speaking on it? One of your Milton Greatest Hits was this stupid rant about how the conflict had nothing to do with Human Rights. So if you have mischaracterized the conflict, then any discussion on the conflict from your end will be misguided.

You seem to equate "supporting Israel", which is not the issue at all (I would expect any Jew to support Israel, there can even be an argument made that Muslims should support Israel, as Jewish communities have lived with Muslims for centuries in the region). An Israeli citizen who pays taxes, "supports Israel".

The issue was actively supporting the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands. That has nothing to do with ensuring Israel maintains its nuclear arsenal and US strategic partnerships through lobbying etc

We are talking about a colonial system imposed upon a people of colour who are ethnically cleansed from their territories in favour of colonial settlers. And this is happening in 2009.

Having a neutral stance on this issue is not a problem. I accept that 100%. I never suggested every Black man had to turn into a Palestinian radical. I simply spoke on those ethnic minorities who actively support a neo colonial occupation of the land of an indigineous population
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Tech Quadafi is a man of the people, who supports intellectual discussions and debates because he can actually take part in them.

Useless posters who get raped in threads have taken to attempts at character assasination. But fortunately the people of KTL dont take serious someone like Milton, who has blessed us with great intellectual jewels, like

-Why wont someone impeach Meles Zenawi? (an African dictator )
-The Middle East conflict has nothing to do with Human rights
-Imperialism is an archaic term and defunct discourse
-Afghanistan will soon be semi secular and semi stable
-Sees the world as divided between human rights respecting democracies vs their counterparts, yet hasnt yet made any attempt to address human rights violations by "democracies", because I think his big azz head might explode
-Has yet to commit to any position or make any policy suggestions, outside of, I support Obama
-Sees liberation struggles through the prism of the US Civil rights movements, and demands that an oppressed people must stick to non violence 100% (not the 90% that the Palestinians, Kashmiris, Tamils etc do). Of course, in Palestine Rosa Parks wouldve gotten a bullet in the head, and the Palestinians something a little worse than water cannons

Milton....
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