"Rump Shaker" > "Ain't No Half-Steppin'"

[Taadow]

No disrespect to Kane, that chit just rocks better.

[MNFBackwordzz]

a WRECKX-N-EFFECT stan?

[N*IT*2*WIN*IT]

the video ONLY!!!!

[suburbanpimpin]

You Crazy, Big Daddy Kane wrecked that song!
Rump Shaker was hot, had them horns and hot hook..

But Ain't No Half Stepping goes fed, cats slept on BDK lyrically

[the puppetmaster]

I agree with you about the VIDEO only. And thats cuz of the women.

Kane's "swag" was/ is phenominal


-P-

[Art Barr]

yall toys on this site continue to amaze me.

you gets no respect from me ever.

argueably one of the best songs in all of rap history, and you think jiggale pie, and rump shaker is better than;

ain't no half stepping

you don't need to listen to another rap record again.

you know what:

n!gga phuck you, cuz


art barr

[Tru Skool]

yall toys on this site continue to amaze me.
you gets no respect from me ever.
argueably one of the best songs in all of rap history, and you think jiggale pie, and rump shaker is better than;
ain't no half stepping
you don't need to listen to another rap record again.
you know what:
n!gga phuck you, cuz
art barr


c/s

[Taadow]

Fucc how you feel about it, beeitch. I'm Taadow.

Teddy dropped the piano out from the Kane version, put in the horn sample, and said some fly chit. You used to grind on a hoe when that song came on. Fucc you lyric nerds. Grindin' on a broad to a phattass beat is hip-hop. Change your tampons.

[Art Barr]

Fucc how you feel about it, beeitch. I'm Taadow.
Teddy dropped the piano out from the Kane version, put in the horn sample, and said some fly chit. You used to grind on a hoe when that song came on. Fucc you lyric nerds. Grindin' on a broad to a phattass beat is hip-hop. Change your tampons.

song was never heralded ever, by any real bboy,...EVER.

just further exposal you would even mention on of the first culture stealers in rap history as well, that phuck: teddy riley

not to mention, that n!gga even did and ruined kane's career and then went and jacked his hall of fame record and single to further add to the damage.

man,..phuck teddy riley....

grand puba, lyte and a few others are probably throwing up right now.

not to mention, these clowns jacked a real record.

if you wanna go sample this record be prepared and actually able to execute a more skilled outing on the mic, ala LL COOL J's:

pink cookies in a plastic bag.

other than that, anyone mentioning, and praising the sellout versions, that got to disrespectfully rock this beat is some sh!t only a toy would phuckin do.

gimme a break, you phuckin toya55 clown.

you just violated like one of the most sacred songs, in rap history with this sh!t you posted. anyone from that time era, would have smacked the sh!t outta you, for your comments.

cot damn toy

art barr

you're the dumba55 who thinks no diggety was good.

[Art Barr]

c/s


on the real...this thread needs that sample of primo sayin;


STRAIGHT VIOLATING, STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN


phuck this toy a55 n!99a....joe


art barr

[Art Barr]

i'm glad hiphop ain't in the limelight no more. so real bboys don't have to hold their tongues just to not be disrespectful or ruin the oppurtunity to draw some cheese.

now that time is over with,.........we gon back to beatin n!99az down for disrespecting the culture.

art barr

oh and phuck you taadow...how can you disrespect an unknown comedy legend, and dj pooh buddy, and the dude in the best liquor commercial ever, with this bullsh!t violating disrespectful thread.

i need a st ides, after this thread and i don't even drink anymore.

[Taadow]

song was never heralded ever, by any real bboy,...EVER.


And that's what's wrong with yo' ***** ass. Fucc what somebody else says about a song I like. Get your own opinion.

[Vincenzo_Corleone]

I actually agree, BUT 'Raw' from Kane > Wreckx-n-effect's existence

[Art Barr]

And that's what's wrong with yo' ***** ass. Fucc what somebody else says about a song I like. Get your own opinion.


N!gga get some culture, and the history behind.

then maybe you can talk....you are straight unknowingly disrespectful.

learn some history and come holla back, and apologize for your mistake when you learn the real.

till then you a phuckin toy, realistically and that ain't a phuckin opinion. it is what you factually phuckin are, n!gga.


art barr

phuckin makes a thread about it, like some real n!99az was gon come in here an be like:

yeah...that song didn't even know it could get made till luke's;

i wanna rock, killd't the video scene and this clown teddy riley tried to jump on the bandwagon with his sellout culture stealin a55. phuck dude, all the way around, and what's worse the n!99a uses kane's initial single after he phuck'd kane whole sh!t up and tries to make it seem like kane was the one who couldn't rock it right or sumfin.

man,...teddy riley is the precursor to that other sh!t, jermaine dupri.

phuck you and dude.

art barr

[Taadow]

I know all of that chit just like you do, Art. But I don't handcuff myself to a "culture" like you do. Somewhere there's some old man that's equally as mad as you because hip-hop sharked jazz. If you ain't wit' it, get your monkey ass outta my thread, hoe.

[the puppetmaster]

Wow, I came in here on some joke's shyt cuz I more or less assumed thats what the thread was on kinda.

Ain't No Half Steppin' is actually my ringtone on my iphone.
Both songs have their places. But to compare them is just. . odd. Apples and Oranges in the flesh. .. Completely different lane each one of these is in, although I do agree Ain't No Half Steppin' shoulda been one of those "Untouchable" samples like T.R.O.Y. for instance. Some songs producers should just know better than to f*ck with even if you're capable of flipping it "doper". If you look at most of the "flossy" videos from that point on they're basically that video with updated wardrobe. ..


-P-

[Art Barr]

Wow, I came in here on some joke's shyt cuz I more or less assumed thats what the thread was on kinda.
Ain't No Half Steppin' is actually my ringtone on my iphone.
Both songs have their places. But to compare them is just. . odd. Apples and Oranges in the flesh. .. Completely different lane each one of these is in, although I do agree Ain't No Half Steppin' shoulda been one of those "Untouchable" samples like T.R.O.Y. for instance. Some songs producers should just know better than to f*ck with even if you're capable of flipping it "doper". If you look at most of the "flossy" videos from that point on they're basically that video with updated wardrobe. .. -P-


violation as deep, as using the same loop to ain't no half steppin and making some bullsh1t, was already dissed and visited when dj quik ruined his legacy by doin it for amg, and further with 2IInone bullsh!T assinine pr comments on soultrain, of not being real emcees.

also,...riley had produced for kane and knew the hiphop ramifications culturally. but, just like usual fashion and his track record with previous bboys in the game:

puba
lyte
audio 2
kane

and more, this rnb producing culture stealer thinks it was just alright to do what ever the phuck he pleased. not to mention, this whole sh1T started at mca, where y'know who came from and thought it was cool to do the same thing to other untouchable songs that aren't to be sampled.


*IMPORTANT NOTE*

the ramifications culturally can not and never could bare those staple songs being disrespected by inferior skilled artist.

this song, rumpshaker was a direct violation of that, and the same thinking further actually killd't the culture of hiphop of being relevent later when puff, did the same exact sh!t with'

can't hold me down

heinously rendering the message, and all its cultural significance it was meant to be when released on sugarhill. even sugarhill was tryin to save face with the message and did so with rap as a genre reaping the cultural rewards.

rump shaker, is one of those songs that disrespected this culture to the core, along with its producer which continued and continues to disrespect this culture into the non draw it is becoming.


n!99az gon look around, and be some damn beatnics similar to jazz, or be mad while some

pretentious non punk motherphuckers look like punk and further defame it into some fa99 sh!t.

if it ain't no hiphop, no culture or no rap...how you gon even justify, even being a black man,

to begin with actually, after that.

now think about it, like gawd with a broom stick giving to the same dude who got it in streets is watching.


riley should get in the same fashion, and in any setting just like dude typecasted as the character who gets phuck'd up in every movie with the weird beard used to.


art barr

[Art Barr]

I know all of that chit just like you do, Art. But I don't handcuff myself to a "culture" like you do. Somewhere there's some old man that's equally as mad as you because hip-hop sharked jazz. If you ain't wit' it, get your monkey ass outta my thread, hoe.


N!GGA BUT hiphop never went and was disrespectful to jazz. as a matter of fact, hiphop got jazz more note in that era because it made jazz a topic of conversation amoung elitist.

plus,....the problem with other genre's is they always had people who said something, and were ignored...that is why the cultural significance and their culture has been eradicated and disrespected.

i'm not tryin to see my culture turn into:

jazz
blues
rnb

simply because some ignorant culture stealer wants to just make money. hiphop never tried to just make money off of jazz, the same way these culture stealers did with hiphop.

so stop it.


art barr


bumps, jazz thing to dispute your stupid a55 ramblings..........who was that produced by and what was the content of that record.

riley ain't make no record to give props to rap. riley, just culture stole like most others in the same vein at mca did.

[ItripL]

This thread needs zshare and youtube links. I gotta hear these tracks now.

[Art Barr]

any n!99a asked about jazz in hiphop during that era had a glowing love and admiration for the culture and music.


go check it out,...riley and others at mca didn't do that at all, not one little bit.

don't give me that puff, we ain't goin nowhere bullsh!t either.

puff tried to save face on some hiphop sh1t to just get another distribution deal, but ultimately wound up sucking arista non clivedavis holding d!ck again, to save face.

art barr

[Art Barr]

This thread needs zshare and youtube links. I gotta hear these tracks now.



yeah, this thread is in violation, in more ways than one.


art barr

[Sunzoo aka LC]

lmao these n1ggas done got art started.....

and quick question....why are these songs even being compared really? wrecks n effecks had one hot single as a collective, i love the song and all, but when i think hip hop, that ain't the first thing that comes to mind, thats more along the lines of r&b, new jack swing bullsh1t that teddy concocted (aka, r&b succking off hip hop for commercial gain)

compare that sh1t to some boyz to men, bell biv devoe or some sh1t like that duke, don't compare that, to what basically amounts to a clinic in emceeing

[Lord Mecca]

art barr ain't havin it out here..

[Lmac]

Rump Shaker used to be my sh!t. I love both tracks. Kane's track is probably better, but rump Shaker is my favorite of the two.

[Art Barr]

art barr ain't havin it out here..


on-the-real...

this is;

AIN'T NO HALF STEPPING

this is the one song, that if you wanted to know how to rap,..you only need this one phuckin record to really study to be really really good.

something no one on wreckx n effect, amg even bothered to do. the reason why you can't disrespect ll, is because at his height he got a loop from marley, and recognized the hiphop significance of the record. created some content, and up'd skills in his delivery in every facet to try and attempt, and argueably surpass this record.

ain't no half steppin is like top three end all be all records in rap history. if not top three, then at least four, and no lower than five when you take into account the contribution of this legendary genre setting record.

no n!99a would even be able to attempt to do an rnb track or something smooth if not for this record. do i have to mention that rnb track smooth sh!t is the basis for mostly all major label rap.

this record singlehandidly defined and solidified the slowflow, and conversational flow. the basis for all large generating rap music. even ll who had the largest drawing single rap record outta of genre, incorporated this sh!t into his skillset, after he was at his height on mama said.

that n!99a didn't have to do that, but because of the holy trinity of skills this record has.

ll, had to do the what the bboy in him says you are to do.

try to equal, OR HOPEFULLY SURPASS, the skilloutput in this historically significant record.


[I]NEVER DISRESPECT THIS PHUCKIN RECORD......

wouldn't be none of the rap n!99az like on the radio in genre at all, if not for this cot damn record.

if you do you gon be in the same line of clown shoes wearing bullsh!t, wrecknefx, and even amg who still gets play for bootyout, but yet and still not one phuckin iota of props as anything else. just the connection, to quik and amg ruined the fact that quik isn't even mentioned as one of the few in rap responsible for sonic and vocal clarity, let alone production. his violation, of this record still haunts him, as rightfully so it should.

dj quik probably still surprised at the work he gets, after this violation. i definately can't think of anything riley gets credit for on any hiphop plane. when, honestly riley is a pioneer but such a culture stealer nobody mentions him. his culture stealing, business practices are used as words to the wise of most emcees from that era.

why you think this n!99a teddy riley used to be called the mark of hiphop, death?


art barr

[Art Barr]

Rump Shaker used to be my sh!t. I love both tracks. Kane's track is probably better, but rump Shaker is my favorite of the two.


PHUCK YOU MEAN,...kane record is probably better.

n!gga it is infinitely better....it is infinitely better than damn near most and almost all the rap records ever recorded in the history of rap, period


art barr

[Art Barr]

man,..when:

AIN'T NO HALF STEPPING

CAME ON VIDEO VIBRATIONS THE FIRST TIME.

sh1t literally changed for rap records......i mean seriously you could feel and taste it in the air.

go ask someone who was around, and saw the debut of this damn video with the raw silhouette, and:

I'M COMIN SCREAMIN AT CHA

THEN the change in scenary in the video.


sh!t was different for any n!gga after they saw that video for the first time, any n!gga.

any one thinking different was fronting, and a complete fool, plus a definate square. especially, when it comes to quality of just music let alone hiphop.

it ain't no performance from one rapper, and their first apperaance that is as aweinspiring as kane and that first video, and this song.


art barr

raw was cold, as a twelve, but when this vid came out....

THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST HOLY SH!T, I WAS A WITNESS TO GREATNESS IN HISTORY, MY LIFE DOES MEAN SOMETHING, RAP VIDEO MOMENTS, EVER.

let alone the song, which was another:

HOLY SH!T I JUST BARED WITNESS TO ONE OF THE GREATEST MOMENTS IN RAP HISTORY.

[Rakim23]

:laugh: @ Art.................. you take your meds today nicca:laugh:

[Tru Skool]

you just violated like one of the most sacred songs, in rap history with this sh!t you posted. anyone from that time era, would have smacked the sh!t outta you, for your comments.



thats why he said it on sohh.com....instead of the street....

[Art Barr]

every n!gga not even into rap, was like yo:

i seen this n!gga on tv, the other night with this hair cut.

i gotta get one of them, and be like dude.

even n!ggaz not into hiphop was tryin to be kane. later on the wanted a stair step to be rakim, but first it was kane, and only kane. this n!gga personified image in rap, let alone as a black male, for that generation.

stop phuckin playing.

art barr

[Art Barr]

thats why he said it on sohh.com....instead of the street....


on the real

c/s


art barr

[Art Barr]

:laugh: @ Art.................. you take your meds today nicca:laugh:


this clown got a rakim username, and a twenty three like he hinting at the greatness of jordan...

then comes in here like i'm tweaking for tellin motherphuckers they are on some absolute bullsh!t, for standing up for:

AIN'T NO HALF STEPPING

shut yo butterknife a55 up n!gga.


art barr

holds the better cardhand up with the mic holster at dude and eternally sons the sh!t outta him, for eternity.

[UGroup]

on-the-real...
this is;
AIN'T NO HALF STEPPING
this is the one song, that if you wanted to know how to rap,..you only need this one phuckin record to really study to be really really good.
something no one on wreckx n effect, amg even bothered to do. the reason why you can't disrespect ll, is because at his height he got a loop from marley, and recognized the hiphop significance of the record. created some content, and up'd skills in his delivery in every facet to try and attempt, and argueably surpass this record.
ain't no half steppin is like top three end all be all records in rap history. if not top three, then at least four, and no lower than five when you take into account the contribution of this legendary genre setting record.
no n!99a would even be able to attempt to do an rnb track or something smooth if not for this record. do i have to mention that rnb track smooth sh!t is the basis for mostly all major label rap.
this record singlehandidly defined and solidified the slowflow, and conversational flow. the basis for all large generating rap music. even ll who had the largest drawing single rap record outta of genre, incorporated this sh!t into his skillset, after he was at his height on mama said.
that n!99a didn't have to do that, but because of the holy trinity of skills this record has.
ll, had to do the what the bboy in him says you are to do.
try to equal, OR HOPEFULLY SURPASS, the skilloutput in this historically significant record.
[I]NEVER DISRESPECT THIS PHUCKIN RECORD......
wouldn't be none of the rap n!99az like on the radio in genre at all, if not for this cot damn record.
if you do you gon be in the same line of clown shoes wearing bullsh!t, wrecknefx, and even amg who still gets play for bootyout, but yet and still not one phuckin iota of props as anything else. just the connection, to quik and amg ruined the fact that quik isn't even mentioned as one of the few in rap responsible for sonic and vocal clarity, let alone production. his violation, of this record still haunts him, as rightfully so it should.
dj quik probably still surprised at the work he gets, after this violation. i definately can't think of anything riley gets credit for on any hiphop plane. when, honestly riley is a pioneer but such a culture stealer nobody mentions him. his culture stealing, business practices are used as words to the wise of most emcees from that era.
why you think this n!99a teddy riley used to be called the mark of hiphop, death?
art barr
:ohmy::laugh::yes:

Kane and Rakim are the two best MCs if you want to learn about MCing. From Technique, flow to rhyme scheme/patterns and multi layered lyrics no mainstream MCs have toppled what these two have brought to the art of MCing.

For those interested in the art and science of MCing check this book out by one of the Greatest MCs.

http://www.amazon.com/Theres-God-Mic-True-Greatest/dp/1560255331/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205795588&sr=8-1

[Tru Skool]

This thread needs zshare and youtube links. I gotta hear these tracks now.


no problem...i'll even show the Teddy Riley/Wrecks n effect one first, cause it was more known for being one of the first video's with alot of ass in it:laugh::yes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKONgfNONU



now this....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZB7Zrk9BB0&feature=related

what can i say man...Kane was a God...where you think Jay got his suaveness from? Where you think Biggie picked up that lyrical brutality? Kane was the overlord Godfather Don of Brooklyn, undisputed, and no JOKE. They showed the video on BET for months:laugh:....


I mean, yall be the judge...

[Art Barr]

no problem...i'll even show the Teddy Riley/Wrecks n effect one first, cause it was more known for being one of the first video's with alot of ass in it:laugh::yes:.


no it wasn't it was a soft core porn rehash wannabe of the alltime video king:

I WANNA ROCK.

rump shaker was some bullsh!t, and i would rather be saying:

HEAD
HEAD
AND MO HEAD

and swimming in between some miami bikini clad drop dead gorgeous oversexed luke gurl than this;

complete rehash oppurtunisitic piece of crap that was just softcore enough to get play on BET, and MTV, after the mother groups witchhunted:

I WANNA ROCK

phuck this record and that video...i could and did just turn the channel to the BOX, and watch luke come on virtual phuckin repeat back to back, for hours on end, and not get tired of it ever.. .

LUKE WAS THE ONE WHO made videos not get play'd back to back, on the box. luke is the one who provided the record companies with a way of saying cot damn...they will order this one video over and over again.

luke was still head and shoulders over the first vanilla ice vid, at its height.

if anything up and make a thread on the classic video genre setting sh!t that was:

I WANNA ROCK

not no phuckin dismissable:

rumpshaker.

phuck that stupid a55 record, and phoney a55 video, joe.


art barr

phuck all those mothergroups for not giving us a way to access the greatness that was:

I WANNA ROCK

while this bullsh!T oppurtunisitic trash rump shaker, was out. i would rather watch hammer damn near pull a ho bikini to the side and phuck her than this trash.


art barr

not tryin to sh!t on your comparison at all,...just tryin to say look. man, rumpshaker was someone tryin to make a quick buck cause this other greatness was occurring for a long a55 time in comparison, for luke on the box. so they jumped onthe bandwagon to make this rumpshaker trash. which had the beat of one of the most influential videos, and songs of all time. sh!t is can't hold me down before can't hold me down, and at the time got dealt with exactly how puff should have been dealt with too. if not for n!99az turning into b!tches and losin themselves.

[Art Barr]

somebody need to get a vhs copy of:

I WANNA ROCK

up that on youtube.

phuck rumpshaker,..and you can tell, teddy;

i said it

art barr

shakes my head at the heinous dismissal of: i wanna rock on youtube, because of those motherphuckin mother's groups who damaged american domestic content from cartoons, music, movies, and definately videos.

phuck them all........

[hiphop's savior]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::l augh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::lau gh::laugh:
and I like both songs

[Tru Skool]

ayo, that nikka Art Barr knows his shyt yo....Uncle luke did have the "broads running around half naked" video game on lock, and Teddy Riley was basically cashing in on it with this vid....

Wrecks n effect were also some one hit wonders, and they got blackballed cause they got into a fight with Q-tip from tribe called quest or something....Tribe got alot of love back then (and now), i remember hearing Teddy had to keep security around them cats everytime they came to NYC after that...


btw...i hate Teddy Riley...he was good for R&B, but terrible for hiphop.....he had a disgustingly large ego to, just ask Aaron Hall...

[Art Barr]

ayo, that nikka Art Barr knows his shyt yo....Uncle luke did have the "broads running around half naked" video game on lock, and Teddy Riley was basically cashing in on it with this vid....
Wrecks n effect were also some one hit wonders, and they got blackballed cause they got into a fight with Q-tip from tribe called quest or something....Tribe got alot of love back then (and now), i remember hearing Teddy had to keep security around them cats everytime they came to NYC after that...
btw...i hate Teddy Riley...he was good for R&B, but terrible for hiphop.....he had a disgustingly large ego to, just ask Aaron Hall...


basically, we can show how hard the violaters were:

juju
busta
mase
pos

and others that were supposed to be soft were tryin to kill the wrecknefx, basically.

so someone saying anything offkey about dela, native and all that was some bullsh!t too.
yes, busta was hard, and sold drugs and was crazy....so stop all the busta hate to. if you wanna know when busta was street and you missed it this is that point in history.


art barr

bangs reign of the tec, video on youtube.....

[hexagram23]

:confused:

*shrugs*

I like both songs.

Fred.

[Art Barr]

ayo, that nikka Art Barr knows his shyt yo....Uncle luke did have the "broads running around half naked" video game on lock, and Teddy Riley was basically cashing in on it with this vid....
Wrecks n effect were also some one hit wonders, and they got blackballed cause they got into a fight with Q-tip from tribe called quest or something....Tribe got alot of love back then (and now), i remember hearing Teddy had to keep security around them cats everytime they came to NYC after that...
btw...i hate Teddy Riley...he was good for R&B, but terrible for hiphop.....he had a disgustingly large ego to, just ask Aaron Hall...


oh yeah...i went to check and see if i could see:

I WANNA ROCK

on youtube, and it still ain't there after searching.

i can get:

POP DAT PUSSAY,...or popp pop pop that coochie. pop pop dat coochie, baby.

even;

get it
get it
get it, gurl

which were all heinous. you can easily see the greatness and nature of the goodness of:

I WANNA ROCK

is still sealed and locked away in a vault somewhere. when qtip did vibrant thing it was all cutesy and artistic....in comparison to just straight amateur video shot, greatness that was luke and still vivrant thing isn't as legendary...and that vid restarted all the skin in videos, too.


art barr

[UGroup]

ayo, that nikka Art Barr knows his shyt yo....Uncle luke did have the "broads running around half naked" video game on lock, and Teddy Riley was basically cashing in on it with this vid....
Wrecks n effect were also some one hit wonders, and they got blackballed cause they got into a fight with Q-tip from tribe called quest or something....Tribe got alot of love back then (and now), i remember hearing Teddy had to keep security around them cats everytime they came to NYC after that...
btw...i hate Teddy Riley...he was good for R&B, but terrible for hiphop.....he had a disgustingly large ego to, just ask Aaron Hall...
I hated Wrecks N Effects at the time. When you grow up on LL/Rakim/Kane/G Rap/DOC it's hard to accept mediore rappers like them along with Hammer. Wrecks n Effects were slightly better than C & C Music Factory :gag:

[Art Barr]

I hated Wrecks N Effects at the time. When you grow up on LL/Rakim/Kane/G Rap/DOC it's hard to accept mediore rappers like them along with Hammer. Wrecks n Effects were slightly better than C & C Music Factory :gag:

phuck them f@gs, too.

rot in aids/hiv hell C or the c, or whoever you are.



art barr

[dieMCs]

song was never heralded ever, by any real bboy,...EVER........anyone from that time era, would have smacked the sh!t outta you, for your comments..

art barr fantasizes sometimes, like n!ggas can't have their own opinions!!! f_ck what bboys think, if i'm sittin' back kickin' it i'd rather hear rump shaker!!! even though i ain't no joke is supposed to be some iconic song you can still be hip-hop & not f_ck with certain sh!t like that!!!

:mad:victim!!!:mad:

[UGroup]

btw...i hate Teddy Riley...he was good for R&B, but terrible for hiphop.....he had a disgustingly large ego to, just ask Aaron Hall...
I feel that way about Jermaine Dupri. Great for R&B(Usher/Janet/Mariah/Xscape) medicore to horrible for Hip Hop(Da Brat/Kriss Kross). JD may hit every blue moon(Money Ain't Thing/New Fab joint).

Teddy killed Kane and Moe D. Atleast there is only one Teddy Riley joint on Big Daddy Thing. The song did catapult Kane in the mainstream(Kane's career fell off after that though. :thumbsdow). I remember my pops being impressed by Kane when he performed I Get The job Done on the American Music Awards. He said the other day when Kayne performed on the Grammys. "He's no Big Daddy Kane" while shaking his head.:laugh:

[Art Barr]

art barr fantasizes sometimes, like n!ggas can't have their own opinions!!! f_ck what bboys think, if i'm sittin' back kickin' it i'd rather hear rump shaker!!! even though i ain't no joke is supposed to be some iconic song you can still be hip-hop & not f_ck with certain sh!t like that!!!
:mad:victim!!!:mad:


what!!!?!?!!

i don't know what party you been to, but djays when i was comin up would get straight checked on their playlist if they played some phuckin rumpshaker.

that was duck territory, and a surefiyah a55 whoopin at any culturized joint.

any joint i been to, when any ra, bdk staple record was dropped the house went mad. you needed to get out more, is probably all.

next thing you gon tell me, is a club full of newbie still don't go crazy when:

THE FIRST SNARES AND KICKS OF THE BRIDGE IS OVA, comes on.

them n!99az don't even be knowing that record like that, but the effect is still the same.


art barr

[hiphop's savior]

I hated Wrecks N Effects at the time. When you grow up on LL/Rakim/Kane/G Rap/DOC it's hard to accept mediore rappers like them along with Hammer. Wrecks n Effects were slightly better than C & C Music Factory :gag:
:laugh::ohmy::laugh: That was that bullshyt. That and Rico Suave. Wrecks N Effects had a couple decent songs. I liked rumpshaker and they had that new jack swing song other than that they were corn. Kid N Play were corn too,but they left their mark on hiphop(houseparty and class act

[N*IT*2*WIN*IT]

Damn I think I made the 2nd or 3rd post and never came back til now......damn Art sh!ttin on n!ggas!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dieMCs]

what!!!?!?!!
i don't know what party you been to, but djays when i was comin up would get straight checked on their playlist if they played some phuckin rumpshaker.
that was duck territory, and a surefiyah a55 whoopin at any culturized joint.
any joint i been to, when any ra, bdk staple record was dropped the house went mad. you needed to get out more, is probably all.
next thing you gon tell me, is a club full of newbie still don't go crazy when:
THE FIRST SNARES AND KICKS OF THE BRIDGE IS OVA, comes on.
them n!99az don't even be knowing that record like that, but the effect is still the same.
art barr

nah man, i'm from the hood in the midwest!!! we wasn't on some closed minded sh!t so i could play both song & ain't nobody sayin' sh!t to me!!! i ain't a dj myself but we used to close out park jams with rump shaker 'cause n!ggas knew what they was goin' back home to do!!! i got out a lot, but we was gettin' at chicks heavy back in those days so we probably just relate to the song better 'cause they was sayin' what we was doin'!!! likw i said different people get into different sh!t & to be honest if the bridge is over came on i wouldn't even recognize it!!! that's krs right, except certain **** i never really f_cked with him!!

:mad:victim!!!:mad:

[Art Barr]

:laugh::ohmy::laugh: That was that bullshyt. That and Rico Suave. Wrecks N Effects had a couple decent songs. I liked rumpshaker and they had that new jack swing song other than that they were corn. Kid N Play were corn too,but they left their mark on hiphop(houseparty and class act


kid n play, were an infinitely skilled group in comparison.

as a matter of fact, we can compare kidnplay's first single song and vid to the trash that was wrecknefx. at least kidnplay got play'd for people feelin betrayed at them continuing to sellout on the music side. wrexnefx were never in their league, yet people would like to have you believe that.


they kill this sh!t, and it got a sweet tee cameo...argueably one of the best female emcees ever too.

their dance routines were the sh!t, and current


you can compare their damn near skill surpassing back forth to double trouble, and others in the back forth rhyme annuls of lore.

you can't say sh!t about no phuckin wrecknefx. technically kidnplay were victims of their draw and being a first. other than that, they were skilled and dope as phuck.......in comparison to culture stealin;

and the nicknamed and rightfully so, incarnation of

the hiphopkiss of death, teddy riley's wrex n efx

art barr