Which Nas songs let you know that Jay Z could never be on his level?

[Just BlackAf]

Doo Rags
War
2nd Childhood
What Goes Around
Get Down

Theres a lot of different answers but these a just a few of my examples. Jay is a pretty good rapper but he couldnt come up with nothing like these if he had 20 years to rhyme "like Common Sense".

But to be fair Nas couldnt write as many popular songs such as Big Pimpin, Give it to me, Girls Girls Girls etc. And I guess thats challenging in its own less important way....

Thoughts?

[Tru Skool]

"It aint hard to tell"


Jay couldn't write nothing like that if you paid him....

[shakobe]

jay-z has more money than nas close thread

[Prodigits]

I'm gay :mad:
:rolleyes:

[AnwarSadatX]

nas is lennon and jay is mccartney

[TheY2DreProblem]

Jay overall is a better MC

You ever seen nas in concert? lol.

[BLB_LaFamilia]

ETHER / thread .... this coming from a jay stan

[bkgiggles86]

Jay overall is a better MC

You ever seen nas in concert? lol.
Hahahaha :laugh:

You remember when he performed One Mic @ the Vma's??????? Dear God it was just terrible and at the end he started chanting and parading around stage with Ja Rule and Ashanti. Hahahahaha I need someone to youtube that sh*t :laugh:

[Tru Skool]

nas is lennon and jay is mccartney


Jay is superman and Nas is spiderman...:laugh:

[DaTruth01]

Hahahaha :laugh:
You remember when he performed One Mic @ the Vma's??????? Dear God it was just terrible and at the end he started chanting and parading around stage with Ja Rule and Ashanti. Hahahahaha I need someone to youtube that sh*t :laugh:
you're asian right :ohmy::ohmy:
clear ur pm for nudes :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

[Insane Sony]

Rewind

[BLB_LaFamilia]

Jay is superman and Nas is spiderman...:laugh:

lol spider-man movies sell more than superman ones cuz bad comparison ... try green lantern

[UrbanMiracle]

The entire Lost Tapes
Illmatic
I Gave You Power
Suspect
Nas is Like
Thief Theme
War
These Are Our Hereos
Level Seven
Where Yall At
Rise And Fall
Stay Chizzle
Street Dreams

and more cant seem to name right now

[Tru Skool]

"Black Zombies" off the lost tapes

[jonas]

the entire N!GGER concept

[6FiggieNiggie]

nas is lennon and jay is mccartney
:ohmy:

good comparison.

[TheY2DreProblem]

Hahahaha :laugh:
You remember when he performed One Mic @ the Vma's??????? Dear God it was just terrible and at the end he started chanting and parading around stage with Ja Rule and Ashanti. Hahahahaha I need someone to youtube that sh*t :laugh:

Word, I mean ill give the nas stans the lyrically stuff but even thats up for debate. Jay-Z can make all different kinds of songs, club sh!t- girl sh!t, songs that make you think. Nas tries to drop knowledge on ni99as every song with a 6th grade education. Jay is just a more complete MC than Nas is. No one quite did it like Jay did. Nas is a veteran still using gimmick album titles to keep himself relevant.

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Listening to: Jay-Z - Crew Love (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/jay-z/track/crew+love)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[euro dirt]

dayum jay LOST

[mitchandness]

The entire Lost Tapes
Illmatic
I Gave You Power
Suspect
Nas is Like
Thief Theme
War
These Are Our Hereos
Level Seven
Where Yall At
Rise And Fall
Stay Chizzle
Street Dreams

and more cant seem to name right now
c/s this post, especially the red.

[LukeCage888]

The first 10 seconds of Live From the BBQ.

[Tru Skool]

The first 10 seconds of Live From the BBQ.


Yeah, Nas came in the game blacking out, and to think akinyele was on his way up at that time, Nas just came thru and stole the whole shine:laugh:

[fundz]

Live at The BBQ
NY State of Mind
The World is Yours (Original and Remix)
Memory Lane
It Ain't Hard to Tell (Original and Remix)
Verbal Intercourse
Mo Money Mo Murder
Eye For a Eye
One on One
One plus One
I Gave You Power
Take it In Blood
Silent Murder
Analyze This
Nas is Like
Undying Love
The Curse
Project Windows
Come Get Me
Last Words
Stillmatic (Intro)
Ether
Rewind
One Mic
2nd Childhood
What Goes Around
Every Ghetto
Doo Rags
Blaze a 50
Purple
Fetus
Hope (Remix)


Just to name a few...

[SubLyminalz]

Word, I mean ill give the nas stans the lyrically stuff but even thats up for debate. Jay-Z can make all different kinds of songs, club sh!t- girl sh!t, songs that make you think. Nas tries to drop knowledge on ni99as every song with a 6th grade education. Jay is just a more complete MC than Nas is. No one quite did it like Jay did. Nas is a veteran still using gimmick album titles to keep himself relevant.
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Listening to: Jay-Z - Crew Love (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/jay-z/track/crew+love)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
close thread, jay is more of a complete MC than nas

[6FiggieNiggie]

Nas is not afraid of showing and sharing his vulnerability, powerlessness and insecurities with his fans through his songs. That's something Jay-z had a hard time doin and that's why he will always be inferior to Nas.


Nas = John Lennon (creative geniuses/icons)
Jay = Paul McCartney (talented musicians)

[Tru Skool]

Live at The BBQ
NY State of Mind
The World is Yours (Original and Remix)
Memory Lane
It Ain't Hard to Tell (Original and Remix)
Verbal Intercourse
Mo Money Mo Murder
Eye For a Eye
One on One
One plus One
I Gave You Power
Take it In Blood
Silent Murder
Analyze This
Nas is Like
Undying Love
The Curse
Project Windows
Come Get Me
Last Words
Stillmatic (Intro)
Ether
Rewind
One Mic
2nd Childhood
What Goes Around
Every Ghetto
Doo Rags
Blaze a 50
Purple
Fetus
Hope (Remix)


Just to name a few...


thats alot of good shyt

[SubLyminalz]

Mo Money Mo Murder




Just to name a few...
thats not a nas song

[RAZAH CUTS]

I think there are a few songs that demonstrate nobody, let alone jay is on his level.....

Doo Rags

2nd Childhood

Drunk By Myself

If I Ruled The World

Nazereth Savage

Queens Day

Halftime

Rewind....

[velocity05]

Nas >>> Jay-Z's fart (just about)

[6FiggieNiggie]

Word, I mean ill give the nas stans the lyrically stuff but even thats up for debate. Jay-Z can make all different kinds of songs, club sh!t- girl sh!t, songs that make you think. Nas tries to drop knowledge on ni99as every song with a 6th grade education. Jay is just a more complete MC than Nas is. No one quite did it like Jay did. Nas is a veteran still using gimmick album titles to keep himself relevant.
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Listening to: Jay-Z - Crew Love (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/jay-z/track/crew+love)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

you call that diversity? LOL

try: socio-political, philosophical, historical, street anthems, gangsta, personal, introspective, etc. which Nas has proven to do well time and time again.

[bkgiggles86]

you call that diversity? LOL
try: socio-political, philosophical, historical, street anthems, gangsta, personal, introspective, etc. which Nas has proven to do well time and time again.
Common>>>>>>>Nas

Common is better at all of that. Nas is just a good storyteller, but Lupe is catchin up so whatever!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheY2DreProblem]

you call that diversity? LOL
try: socio-political, philosophical, historical, street anthems, gangsta, personal, introspective, etc. which Nas has proven to do well time and time again.

Yeah i'm not trying to hear that from some one who didn't graduate middle school. Nas is one of my favorite MC's but he's one dimensional. He's not as diverse as Jay-Z and he's not as complete a MC as Jay is. And on top of that he's awful live- which is an important aspect of MC'ing. Ni99a forgets lyrics and has breath control similar to Pun in his prime. He doesn't even conduct himself like a rap icon even tho he is, dude is relying on this eye grabbing album titles to offend people just to say relevant.

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Listening to: The Game Feat. will.i.am - Compton (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+game+feat.+will.i.am/track/compton)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[euro dirt]

Common>>>>>>>Nas

Common is better all of that. Nas is just a good storyteller, but Lupe is catchin up so whatever!!!!!!!!!!!
"lupe is catching up"

you just exposed yourself as a nas fan. i know how highly you think of lupe

:laugh:

JAY LOST

[Just BlackAf]

I would like to add Street's Disciple especially the 3rd verse

[LiveFromNewYork718]

2nd Coming
2nd Childhood

[Sunzoo aka LC]

just like nas would sound like a retard trying to flow over a beat like "hovi baby"

they are yin and yang...what one does well, the other is exceptional at and vice versa, there are certain things that jay can do that nas couldn't, and IMO, he is by far the more versatile and therefore gets the tie breaker, but they are damn near equal, i don't like putting one over the other but if i was forced, jay would take it

songs that let me know nas couldn't be on jay's level when it comes to wit, and technical emceeing abilities

hovi baby
lyrical exercise (breate easy)
***** What, ***** Who (nas couldn't do sh1t with this beat)
Threats
It's On
blackout

i could go on, the separation between their technical skillsets are heavily evident on their two collaborations even..cute thread tho

[Freedom Of Chat]

black republican... but hov is better overall... maybach music makes me ejaculate a lil in my hanes

no homo

[Prodigits]

Look at black republican and success

On BR, its more of a conscious rap, and nas really did it on that boy (tho jay was only slightly behind)

But on Success, which was a bit more brag, jay murdered it, and nas came through stumbling

While i like nas a whole lot more than jay, i know jay gots some skills that nas dont.

As far as the level thing goes, ids say nas everything was always a step above jay (atleast the first two classics), and when jay did blueprint, i was like "Jay can really spit, i mustve forgot", but then stillmatic put dude back in his place.

Nas is more risky with his content, he likes to break the norm alot, which is a good and a bad thing. TBH since blueprint and stillmatic, both of these cats have been on life support.

[Freedom Of Chat]

But on Success, which was a bit more brag, jay murdered it, and nas came through stumbling

Camaro driven, I climax from paper
and ask why is life worth living?
Is it to hunt for the **** that you want?
To receive's great, but I lust giving

:king: go read some shakespeare n1gga

Old cribs I sold, y'all drive by like monuments
Google Earth Nas, I got flats in other continents

:cool: townhouse n1ggas

Worst enemies wanna be my best friends
Best friends wanna be enemies like Daz was in
But I don't give a **** walk inside the lions den
Take everybody’s chips, about to cash them in
Up your catalog dawg, mine's worth to much
Like Mike Jacks ATV part, Mottola can't touch
Let this ***** breathe

hov = :mad:

[Predator]

Purple

[Just BlackAf]

just like nas would sound like a retard trying to flow over a beat like "hovi baby"

they are yin and yang...what one does well, the other is exceptional at and vice versa, there are certain things that jay can do that nas couldn't, and IMO, he is by far the more versatile and therefore gets the tie breaker, but they are damn near equal, i don't like putting one over the other but if i was forced, jay would take it

songs that let me know nas couldn't be on jay's level when it comes to wit, and technical emceeing abilities

hovi baby
lyrical exercise (breate easy)
***** What, ***** Who (nas couldn't do sh1t with this beat)
Threats
It's On
blackout

i could go on, the separation between their technical skillsets are heavily evident on their two collaborations even..cute thread tho
haha this is myth. They are different but they arent equal. Jay Z is inferior. Nas could take any one of those beats and write a better song....

[SubLyminalz]

just like nas would sound like a retard trying to flow over a beat like "hovi baby"

they are yin and yang...what one does well, the other is exceptional at and vice versa, there are certain things that jay can do that nas couldn't, and IMO, he is by far the more versatile and therefore gets the tie breaker, but they are damn near equal, i don't like putting one over the other but if i was forced, jay would take it

songs that let me know nas couldn't be on jay's level when it comes to wit, and technical emceeing abilities

hovi baby
lyrical exercise (breate easy)
***** What, ***** Who (nas couldn't do sh1t with this beat)
Threats
It's On
blackout

i could go on, the separation between their technical skillsets are heavily evident on their two collaborations even..cute thread tho

[TheY2DreProblem]

haha this is myth. They are different but they arent equal. Jay Z is inferior. Nas could take any one of those beats and write a better song....

cover yourself! your stan is showing.

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Listening to: The Game Feat. will.i.am - Compton (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+game+feat.+will.i.am/track/compton)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[Freshology]

just like nas would sound like a retard trying to flow over a beat like "hovi baby"
they are yin and yang...what one does well, the other is exceptional at and vice versa, there are certain things that jay can do that nas couldn't, and IMO, he is by far the more versatile and therefore gets the tie breaker, but they are damn near equal, i don't like putting one over the other but if i was forced, jay would take it
songs that let me know nas couldn't be on jay's level when it comes to wit, and technical emceeing abilities
hovi baby
lyrical exercise (breate easy)
***** What, ***** Who (nas couldn't do sh1t with this beat)
Threats
It's On
blackout
i could go on, the separation between their technical skillsets are heavily evident on their two collaborations even..cute thread tho
co-sign... it a shame how niccas be pump faking themselves into otherwise...

[Lmac]

Death Anniversary
Shootouts
Suspect
Small World
Last Wordz (Nas' verse)
The Life We Chose (Jay could pull it off but not as well)
What Goes Around
Every Ghetto (Nas' 2nd verse was :ohmy:)
Reason
Live Now
Who Killed it
Bridging the Gap (most people didn't like it but I did. Regardless, you gotta admit it was an ill concept)
I Can

Those are just some of the songs that haven't been named yet. Sunzoo says that technical skills separates Jay from Nas, but flat out creativity and risk-taking gives Nas the edge. The concepts and some of the things he says are just "Damn!"

He isn't afraid to take risks as an emcee. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't but you have to applaud him for trying to always come with something fresh and different. Nas challenges himself and his audience, which puts him in a category with few others in that respect.

Both Nas and Jay are top 5 though.

[aRizzo.]

"It aint hard to tell"
Jay couldn't write nothing like that if you paid him....
but he could pay nas to do so:laugh:

[Gawd Intellect]

Lil Jon Grand Finale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRIkFNKZ2s

[Verse 4: Nas]
Who besides the Egyptian-walker, ****ers have a conniption
My existence persistent to bring foes misfortune
I dazzle 'em, like the alderman, Billy Dee in Mahogany, minus the perm
From the tiniest sperm that the mightiest The Almighty can muster
Project prophet, chronic blockage gives Alzheimer's to youngsters
Amongst them is me, can't remembers my beefs
With who? For what? They screw-face me up, my boo laced me up
Bolinsiaga, flimsy condo with bimbos in south of Kalan Gro in pimp mode
The inf' glow on his clothes and you know it's over
Hammer hit pin, pin hit shell, from the shell the slug gonna chew ya
Try not to lose me, I try not to lose'ya
Mamma say mamma sa mu makasa, fly to Cuba
To chill with some politi-kill *****z who ill
'Cause y'all *****z are losers, don't get comfortable *****
Say hello to Mr. Bad Guy, get that cash par, I'm the last don
You'll ever know so, here you go y'all can take these thoughts
Anyway I'm chargin' emcees a late fee cost
So when y'all done with my style, please break me off
But never make Nas mad just in case cross
'Cause ah, lately y'all don't make me happy
To calm my nerve I need the herb GNC don't carry

amongst other songs like What goes around, Eye For An Eye Freestyle, Rewind, Serious, Stillmatic intro, Every Ghetto, etc etc etc

[Just BlackAf]

Lil Jon Grand Finale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRIkFNKZ2s

[Verse 4: Nas]
Who besides the Egyptian-walker, ****ers have a conniption
My existence persistent to bring foes misfortune
I dazzle 'em, like the alderman, Billy Dee in Mahogany, minus the perm
From the tiniest sperm that the mightiest The Almighty can muster
Project prophet, chronic blockage gives Alzheimer's to youngsters
Amongst them is me, can't remembers my beefs
With who? For what? They screw-face me up, my boo laced me up
Bolinsiaga, flimsy condo with bimbos in south of Kalan Gro in pimp mode
The inf' glow on his clothes and you know it's over
Hammer hit pin, pin hit shell, from the shell the slug gonna chew ya
Try not to lose me, I try not to lose'ya
Mamma say mamma sa mu makasa, fly to Cuba
To chill with some politi-kill *****z who ill
'Cause y'all *****z are losers, don't get comfortable *****
Say hello to Mr. Bad Guy, get that cash par, I'm the last don
You'll ever know so, here you go y'all can take these thoughts
Anyway I'm chargin' emcees a late fee cost
So when y'all done with my style, please break me off
But never make Nas mad just in case cross
'Cause ah, lately y'all don't make me happy
To calm my nerve I need the herb GNC don't carry

amongst other songs like What goes around, Eye For An Eye Freestyle, Rewind, Serious, Stillmatic intro, Every Ghetto, etc etc etc
Project prophet, chronic blockage gives Alzheimer's to youngsters
Amongst them is me, can't remembers my beefs
With who? For what? They screw-face me up,

Nasty. Lyrics flow everything.

Jay Z just has a lower ceiling. He might say something cool along the lines of "I got a house in Dubai, pay cash for everything I do buy, what else could dude buy" and thats clever.

But Nas has to work a lot harder to impress people thats why people fake on him. And for the record I did not enjoy his last record....

[doeboy]

Camaro driven, I climax from paper
and ask why is life worth living?
Is it to hunt for the **** that you want?
To receive's great, but I lust giving
:king: go read some shakespeare n1gga
Old cribs I sold, y'all drive by like monuments
Google Earth Nas, I got flats in other continents
:cool: townhouse n1ggas
Worst enemies wanna be my best friends
Best friends wanna be enemies like Daz was in
But I don't give a **** walk inside the lions den
Take everybody’s chips, about to cash them in
Up your catalog dawg, mine's worth to much
Like Mike Jacks ATV part, Mottola can't touch
Let this ***** breathe
hov = :mad:look at you completely overrating an average nas rhyme. fuk is a "ghetto othello", and what does that strange reference have to do with being successful?

as far as the thread dude is a known jay-hater. jay's success and status is constantly fuking with dude so he spends a lot of his time thinking of ways to come to sohh to try and discredit it in some way. that behavior speaks for itself.

[DogYou'saOstrich]

lmfao @ this thread bein a nas stan support group.

[Gentility]

The entire Lost Tapes