West Coast hip hop post 1996 WTF happened?

[John Tendera$$]

Seriously what's the reason why thier hip hop isnt popular anymore

Is it because thier wack terminology?

They use words like Mark, Buster etc..:thumbsdow

Well maybe its just because They only make music that they can relate to.

What do yall think?

[Cantgetright]

Seriously what's the reason why thier hip hop isnt popular anymore
Is it because thier wack terminology?
They use words like Mark, Buster etc..:thumbsdow
Well maybe its just because They only make music that they can relate to.
What do yall think?

you obviously didnt know that you dont hear real west coast hip hop anywhere past PHX.
our hip hop is still popular but just not when we do it.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

pac died

[NOTaFreeEmailAccount]

In '96 these four individuals basically had a monopoly on the west:
Pac
Dre
Snoop
Suge

Then what happened?:
Pac- died
Dre- "left" the west coast mindstate to set up Aftermath (and it's not like that first Aftermath compilation repped the west coast that much at all)
Snoop- fell off / signed to Master P
Suge- legal trouble

Imagine if in '99 Jay, Nas, DMX, and Puffy all died. That'd take a huge chunk out of east coast music. The west coast scene was always smaller than the east, so it's really like they lost 80% of their star power all at once.

[NotSoft]

Snoop,E40,Ice Cube,Crooked I...we still bringin the quality...sorry we dont go on radio and talk about beatin each other up or shootin each other....only on the east coast can irrelevant rappers wit no hits get air time,If crooked I who is actually the best lyricist out right now could get the air time of Papoose and Uncle murda he'd be a international superstar...and what happened is called blackballing.

[Cantgetright]

Snoop,E40,Ice Cube,Crooked I...we still bringin the quality...sorry we dont go on radio and talk about beatin each other up or shootin each other....only on the east coast can irrelevant rappers wit no hits get air time,If crooked I who is actually the best lyricist out right now could get the air time of Papoose and Uncle murda he'd be a international superstar...and what happened is called blackballing.

co sign.
they kinda forget if you talk shiit in LA your not gonna have a very long career or life for that matter.
after death row crumbled interscope and major labels stopped focusing on west coast acts until dre dropped 2001 and after that if you werent established you didnt sell across the nation.
think about how one metropolitan area held down the whole rap game. its more of a testament to the power of the west coast and how it can completely shut down things

[RAZAH CUTS]

I think that 96' was just a rough time for the west, inparticuliarly L.A., cause let's face it, when you talk about classic west coast shiit from the mid 90's, your talkin about L.A. nikkas and the mark they left on the game with Gangsta music and G Funk music.....and it wasn't just Dre, Pac and Snoop.....there were a lot of L.A. cats poppin at that time....WC, Mack 10, Cypress Hill, TQ, Kurupt, RBX, Kam, Badazz, CJ Mac, Tash & The Liks, DJ Quik, MC Eiht, et cetera, et cetera.....they all were making really good music.....I blame the west's decline on the same thing I blame the east's....the rap game's continued fluctuation of fickle and un-knowledgeable fans....a lot of these kids don't know who Rass Kass is man, let alone do they know what he meant to the west coast scene back in the 90's.....it's sad really...cause every atist I named has made either a classic song or a classic album.....damn shame...I hope L.A. comes back one day, but with excellent albums like Evidence's Weatherman Lp and great artist's like Crooked I getting ignored, I just don't know man...just don't know....

[Perverted Justice]

Seriously what's the reason why thier hip hop isnt popular anymore
Is it because thier wack terminology?
They use words like Mark, Buster etc..:thumbsdow
Well maybe its just because They only make music that they can relate to.
What do yall think?

They dominated Hip-Hop with that terminology didn't they?

What happened was that the East Coast biased media blackballed the West after Pac died. They went out of their way to push an East Coast revolution, led by Puffy, Jay, DMX, and Ja Rule, all of whom were basically unheard of, or irrelevant before Pac died.

Pac's death and the fall of Death Row allowed them to essentially change the script and make sure that they never had a chance to dominate Hip-Hop again. That's why it just seems like an immediate drop off. They had to start a phony "East Coast revival", which wouldn't have been possible if the West was given the same opportunities that they had been given in the early '90s.

[2Quik4U]

Very simple. The West coast wasn't as marketable anymore. The well became dry basically. It's just a natural process in music. NY started it, then LA took it, then NY had it back for a brief period, then the south took it.

Also you've gotta understand that the West was basically monopolized by Death Row. If there were more labels that put out as much good music as DR then the West wouldn't of died I believe. That's not to say that nobody else was representing in the West pre and post-96 but they weren't nearly as powerful as Death Row was.

But i'd also point the finger at Dre. He didn't do enough to bring back the West Coast scene. As if Ras Kass couldn't of ripped some of his beats? Or Crooked I couldn't of done some shyt with him once he left Tha Row. smh, the West brought timeless classics too.

[yseJ]

cause let's face it, when you talk about classic west coast shiit from the mid 90's, your talkin about L.A...
the west is not just LA

Very simple. The West coast wasn't as marketable anymore. The well became dry basically. It's just a natural process in music.
there u go
thats about right. there was still good music being made. its just the mainstream make-up of americas rap audience started to get tired of that good music and switched onto something else.

I guess the beef left a lot of niccas underwhelmed, and thats why niccas started to listen to joints about how rich niccas were and puffy's (aka Art Barr's antichrist's) pop shyt started poppin off way too much...

[yseJ]

oh, just to add on a bit about the west:

the bay had mob music, but that got played out by 2000
LA had g-funk, but that got played out by 2000
horror/psycho rap aka cypress hill and brotha lynch got extinct even before that

sadly, the west couldnt offer real alternatives for mainstream's taste. since what we did best turned out to be unpopular after a while it doomed the coast as far as COMMERCIAL success goes.

(the same thing thats pretty much happened and is still happening to new york since 50 blew up for a good period of time)

its not that big of a deal to bay artists, cuz they cake off whether or not they have mainstream success. but even then, everyone in the bay wanted to be a part of hyphy craze.

on the real tho, look at whos still doin shyt from the west:
too short and snoop.
two artists who dont have much substance, and who proved they can adjust to any style. even then, they mostly do party/chill rap

look who is a relatively new rapper and is hot: The Game. that nicca is one of the most DEVOID of substance rapper. his flow is on new york's dyck. crooked I is dope, but his style is also NY-driven.
thats why these east coast niccas like the Game and Crooked. they fit their concepts of dope cuz they follow the trend.

what the west needs is their own style and as less gimmicky stupid as possible. I still think hyphy was a good try, even tho shyt failed. it showed that we're capable of new ideas (or in this case, popularizing old forgotten ones)

[danja29]

Maaaan, GTFOH w/ that "the West got blackballed" sh*t... simple fact is, their formula got played out cause they were in '97-'98 still comin' with that syntesizer/handclaps sound and it had run its course. When niqqas started doin' different sh*t outside of that sound, the West sh*t had a presence again for a minute. Just like how the East Coast had to get a new sound a couple times in order to get back on the scene. The West was goin' hard no doubt, but even in '96 before Pac and Big died, you saw that sound fading out. Niqqas like Eiht and Spice 1 weren't as popular as they had been a couple years before, and even Pac appeared to be moving on to a different sound. Them other niqqas just got stuck in that zone for a couple years too long.

[JunkYard AkbaR]

the west was too gangsta for the rest of the industry so they kinda got blackballed. Niccas was scared to work with cali artists or even fly out here. At the same time our whole steez got bitten when the rest of the country started b&c bangin and cwalkin

[yseJ]

who the fukk moved this to beefzone ?
there was a fukkin discussion going on in here

dumbfukk mods these days