SMH @ Jay calling himself the GOAT when he aint even better than Snoop

[JMurder]

what is it that i do? im explaining why i prefer snoop to jay and i gave good reasons, none of which has been adequately addressed


the problem is you're looking for someone to come at you with facts in a topic of opinions...that's how you were ousted as a Snoopie (Snoop groupie)

[Worm of Earth Jim]

doggystyle isnt even that good, i never understood why people think so highly of it
:thumbsdow

[MattPenis315]

LMAO @ this stupid ass thread, i like snoop and all, but better than jay-z? get the f-ck out of here. lyrically it's not even close, not to mention jay has a wayyy better catalogue.

damn some of y'all are f-ckin retarded. :laugh:

[doeboy]

oh shut up i was obviously kiddding with that post
the thread is about whose better and i just dropped a comprehensive list of why i prefer snoop
dispute or sukk dikkthe "i was just kidding" copout you ppl use when being called out on saying something stupid is weak as fuk. the hell is funny about that statement? as far as your "comprehensive list for why you prefer snoop", this thread isnt about you personally prefer. the thread is about being objective and talking about who's the better emcee. your problem is that youre looking for some1 to try and change your mind and youre coming across as a complete cheerleader, youre already suking dik and that was my point. I'm neutral while you're a known Jay-Z groupie, so your opinion is irrelevant.
By the way, Jay lostnothing about ya lame ass is neutral and anybody that read your post can see that. you can take that "everybody knows..." bs and shove it up ya ass because it means nothing to me. cornballs like you dominate this site which is exactly why i said its hard to have intelligent conversations. the fact that you take pride in cosigning "everybody" on sohh says everything.

[vancouverdude]

Doggystyle>>Gay-Z's whole catalogue

[mac504]

The only people who think Jay is better than snoop are white people and New Yorkers.

[Vincent Vega]

nothing about ya lame ass is neutral and anybody that read your post can see that. you can take that "everybody knows..." bs and shove it up ya ass because it means nothing to me. cornballs like you dominate this site which is exactly why i said its hard to have intelligent conversations. the fact that you take pride in cosigning "everybody" on sohh says everything.

:laugh: @ flipping through this groupie's posts and all this cock sucker is talm bout is Kobe and Jay. U really got a thing for overrated niqqus huh? :laugh:

Puhleeeze take their dycks out ya mouf and step ya hip hop (and basketball) knowledge up, youngin





































By the way, Jay lost

[BlackMuzic]

n1gga please....snoop is a legend no doubt, but when it comes to fleshing out his legacy, he is somewhat an underachiever, and technically (lyrics, flows, quotes, concepts) he ain't coming nowhere near close

you can't even make a case catalog wise either, this argument has no legs, jay is top 10, snoop is top 20

the irony of Jay using snoop quotes

[BlackMuzic]

well im not trying to give you an unbiased opinion sunzoo, i done told you that i dont like jayz music and ive been listening to snoop before i had hair on my balls ya dig
so this is all my opinion and its subjective
now lets look at FLOW....Jay sounds corny to me, that whole whisper flow shiit dont faze me. now that fast paced shiit he used to spit, i loved it, and when he uses that flow (is that yo biitch) he sounds on point. but i think the mans flow is average. Snoops flow kills him
MIC PRESENCE/VOCALS: Jay voice cracking like a 13 yr old. whats really good? Snoop can come on a track, talkin about, ima **** your momma, and that shiit sounds soo smooth, you would bob your hands to it with a spliff in your mouth.
CONTENT: what you have to understand is here on SOHH, cats dont dig snoop. at best, theyll skim through his album, and they dont even have the TASTE to appreciate snoop music. they grow up on d block/dipset east coast rhymes and beats and mixtapes, hell naw they wont give snoop a chance
Jay rhymes are all crack sales and boasting. Now im gonna give him credit for diversifying his content the last 2 albums, its a pity he waited till he was 40 yrs old to sound like a 28 yr old tho. Homie, do you know what kind of shiit snoop been rapped about? without even including the shoot em up, gang bang, drugs, fukkin etc type shiit
1. gang violence consequences
2. prison life
3. racial tensions
4. high school life
5. foot ball (lol)
6. his pet doggs
7. 1800s western wild wild west themed songs
8. mafia songs
9. tribute to his incarcerated homies
10. career reviews
11. diss songs
12. his wife
13. his kids
14. gang unity
15. police brutality
16. beating a murder case
17. childhood
18. his mom
I can go on and on
MESSAGE? Snoop projects humility, while Jay projects arrogance. Snoop presents his music as your peer, someone you can relate to. Dont nobody relate to Jays shiit. Snoop has presented all sorts of messages in his songs
DIVERSITY: Snoop will rip a west coast bassline, spit fire on a Primo track, lay down his vocals on his Neptunes shiit. Jump on a Hyphy track. He spit fast, he spit slow. He done ripped crunked out tunes. He has sung entire songs. He;ll do a p funk inspired record.
ORIGINALITY: Nothing about Jay Z is original. the man is boring. meanwhile snoop is original and innovative down to a t. everything about the man is unique. nobody spit like him, nobody dress like him, nobody talk like him etc
BEST ALBUM: Doggystyle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RD
CATALOGUE: I dont know you gonna say snoops album been on the fence, while Jay is consistently strong. With the exception of DA GAME IS TO BE SOLD...every snoop ALbum has been at least a banger, with at least 10 heat rocks on each joint. 3 NEAR CLASSICS : DOGGFATHER, LAST MEAL AND THE FIRST EASTSIDAZ JOINT
VOL 1, 2, 3, DYNASTY was all regurgiated music. one album following the other. the songs were so formaliac. all rent a hits. no originality, no style.
RD was a classic, Blueprint was a near classic, AG was dope, Black album was dope. Everything in between was average lets be real.
Meanwhile with Snoop, EVERY SINGLE ALBUM HAD A DIFFERENT VIBE. No 2 Snoop albums were even remotely similiar. And Snoop dropped the introspective GROWN MAN album (DOGGFATHER) more than a decade before JAY dropped his (KC) and did 5 times better job
LIVE PERFORMANCE? FREESTYLE? I dont even need to argue this. Put Snoop and Jay in the booth with no pre writtens (or pre memorized) and Snoop will embarass Jay. REAL MC SHIIT
ARTISTRY? You can tell Jay go no influences. Whatever musical innovation Jay has presented has been courtesy of his producers. You can tell Snoop grew up on a rich musical background. He puts that forward in his music. Jays shiit is rap, Snoops is MUSIC
HOOKS? Snoop has ripped hooks, singing them. Again, showing a depth in artistry, showing musical knowledge. Jay has none. All he does is spit. More NY rappers are like that. AINT GOT THAT FUNK IN THEY BLOOOOOD
You can like your Jay. You can prefer him to Snoop. I aint mad
But Ill take SNOOP over JAY all day every day, and Ill put forward a damn proper case as to whyyou need to work for one of these magazines :yes: good sh1t

[BlackMuzic]

also lets keep in mind several things
Snoop fans are a humble folk. Jays fans are dikk riding stans. why? because Jay himself rides his own dikk, so his fan are brainwashed. Snoop never felt the need to project himself as the best
Jay has been based out of the hip hop mecca, the media capital. so hes gonna get the attention. And he has a bigger label backin for significant portion of his career
Media in general have dikkrided Jay more than Snoop. Cuz Snoop dont put himself out there.You can tell hes a real nicca. a real humble dude. Jay is all image

actually in all fairness Snoop comes from the entertainment capital so he gets his airtime (not LB but LA)

Jay-Z is just a better business man then snoop

[authentiq]

:thumbsdow at niccas saying Jay got more party tracks than Snoop

Do ya'll really go out ?

[DaPhenom]

:thumbsdow at niccas saying Jay got more party tracks than Snoop
Do ya'll really go out ?

Fuk you talkin' bout ock, you got over 1000 aliases and they on SOHH all day long every flukin' day......

You ever heard of the Log Out movement??








































You should try it wicha dumbass Yauuuzear

[authentiq]

By the way, that Ego Trippin album is some smooth shyt.

Thats some grown up music right there, while Jay dropped that horrible Kingdom Come album

[Tech Quadafi]

the "i was just kidding" copout you ppl use when being called out on saying something stupid is weak as fuk. the hell is funny about that statement? as far as your "comprehensive list for why you prefer snoop", this thread isnt about you personally prefer. the thread is about being objective and talking about who's the better emcee. your problem is that youre looking for some1 to try and change your mind and youre coming across as a complete cheerleader, youre already suking dik and that was my point. nothing about ya lame ass is neutral and anybody that read your post can see that. you can take that "everybody knows..." bs and shove it up ya ass because it means nothing to me. cornballs like you dominate this site which is exactly why i said its hard to have intelligent conversations. the fact that you take pride in cosigning "everybody" on sohh says everything.

retard

if the response has 2 fukkin "lol" within it, then obviously it was a playful comment

second, the thread is not about whose the better MC. dont change the terms of discourse to suit your position. its about whose better. who is overall better. i feel snoop is overall better. i would rather listen to snoop than jay

and i gave reasons why i felt snoop was better, acknowledgin the HUGE disparity in terms of lyricism, but feeling that in all other categories Snoop was better

the CATALOGUE? disputable. I prefer Snoops, but I respect Jays body of work. Again, i acknowledge Jay as the better technical mc, he is the better lyricists

but live shows, freestyling, best album, flow, content, diversity, originality, musicality, etc etc snoop is better to me

[Green Lantern]

but live shows snoop is better to me


Jay is probably the best live rapper ever. Even when he does sh*t like Jigga What & Is That Yo B*tch, you can clearly hear every word.

[Tech Quadafi]

Jay is probably the best live rapper ever. Even when he does sh*t like Jigga What & Is That Yo B*tch, you can clearly hear every word.

ive actually seen both in concert, and there is no comparison

check out some youtube videos of both, and compare

[inYoMomsB]

hmmm...never thought about this comparison b4

[Sumjoo aka LC]

n1gga please....snoop is a legend no doubt, but when it comes to fleshing out his legacy, he is somewhat an underachiever, and technically (lyrics, flows, quotes, concepts) he ain't coming nowhere near close

you can't even make a case catalog wise either, this argument has no legs, jay is top 10, snoop is top 20

[TheBaker]

Jay ain't even top 10.

AVERAGE RAPPER FROM AN AVERAGE TIME.

Pac, Nas, BIG, Big L, KOOL G, AZ, Big Pun, Em, even Snoop>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay.

Real talk.

[JMurder]

By the way, that Ego Trippin album is some smooth shyt.
Thats some grown up music right there, while Jay dropped that horrible Kingdom Come album
why even attempt to compare the two?

:confused:

that was random