View Full Version : This is why gangbangers in L.A. get no f*cking respect from me....Seriously
Slice-Twice
03-04-08, 03:22 PM
LOS ANGELES — A high school football star described as "a Houdini on the football field" was shot dead on Sunday in random gang violence and his mother was returning from her second tour of duty in Iraq.
Jamiel Andre Shaw, 17, was shot multiple times on a sidewalk a few yards from his home after he didn't respond when two men pulled up in a car and asked him, "Where you from?" — code for which gang did he belong to, police said. He was not a gang member.
Authorities are calling the shooting a random, unprovoked gang attack.
Shaw, a standout running back at Los Angeles High School and the Southern League's most valuable player last season, was shot about 8:40 p.m. Sunday in the Crenshaw area. He died later at a local hospital.
Known to his friends as "Jazz," Shaw was heading places, said his father, Jamiel Shaw Sr.
"He was going to make something out of himself," Jamiel Sr. told MyFOXLA.com. "All he had to do was get out of high school."
His mother, Army Sgt. Anita Shaw, on Monday was on her way back from Iraq, where she has been serving her second tour of duty.
Jamiel Shaw Sr. said he called Jamiel on Sunday night, telling him to hurry home from the mall. A few moments after hanging up, Jamiel Sr. said, he heard the shots outside.
"They killed him while his mother is in Iraq fighting, dodging bullets, and she gets a phone call to say her son is on the streets of L.A., dead. For what?" Jamiel Sr. said.
Shaw's best friend, Marc Anthony Asher, witnessed the attack, telling MyFOXLA.com the men shot him in the head.
"He wasn't a gangbanger; he wasn't no thug," Asher said. "He was a regular kid."
Jamiel Sr. said his son's ultimate goal was to be a sports agent.
"I would tell him, 'I'm going to get you to 18, and if you do what you're supposed to do, you'll get to college'" the father recalled. "He was almost there."
Hardy Williams, football coach at Los Angeles High, said Jamiel was "a very special kid. Not only was he an outstanding athlete, he was a good person."
And, Williams said, he was "a Houdini on the football field."
Jamiel was an all-city first-team selection last season after he rushed for 1,052 yards, averaging more than 14 yards per carry, and scored 10 touchdowns. He also ran track.
In the past week, Williams said, Stanford and Rutgers universities contacted him about Jamiel. "He was elated," Williams recalled.
Police said they are seeking the public's help in identifying the suspects, whom officials described only as two Latino men in a white compact sedan. Investigators believe the shooting was not racially motivated. Jamiel was black.
"Unfortunately, it's not uncommon in L.A. that we have some gang members approaching victims at random just to see if they are (gang members) or not," said police Detective Frank Carillo. "But to shoot them anyway, that's just disgusting."
Jamiel Sr. implored the public for help.
"This is not Iraq; this is L.A.," he told MyFOXLA.com. "You should be able to walk down the damn street — you should be able to walk the street without getting killed. Somebody's seen what happened: Somebody knows. Please help us."
True Ether
LiottaSoda
03-04-08, 03:24 PM
switch punishments to eye for an eye and watch crime drop 90%
Cole Cash
03-04-08, 03:24 PM
LOS ANGELES — A high school football star described as "a Houdini on the football field" was shot dead on Sunday in random gang violence and his mother was returning from her second tour of duty in Iraq.
Jamiel Andre Shaw, 17, was shot multiple times on a sidewalk a few yards from his home after he didn't respond when two men pulled up in a car and asked him, "Where you from?" — code for which gang did he belong to, police said. He was not a gang member.
Authorities are calling the shooting a random, unprovoked gang attack.
Shaw, a standout running back at Los Angeles High School and the Southern League's most valuable player last season, was shot about 8:40 p.m. Sunday in the Crenshaw area. He died later at a local hospital.
Known to his friends as "Jazz," Shaw was heading places, said his father, Jamiel Shaw Sr.
"He was going to make something out of himself," Jamiel Sr. told MyFOXLA.com. "All he had to do was get out of high school."
His mother, Army Sgt. Anita Shaw, on Monday was on her way back from Iraq, where she has been serving her second tour of duty.
Jamiel Shaw Sr. said he called Jamiel on Sunday night, telling him to hurry home from the mall. A few moments after hanging up, Jamiel Sr. said, he heard the shots outside.
"They killed him while his mother is in Iraq fighting, dodging bullets, and she gets a phone call to say her son is on the streets of L.A., dead. For what?" Jamiel Sr. said.
Shaw's best friend, Marc Anthony Asher, witnessed the attack, telling MyFOXLA.com the men shot him in the head.
"He wasn't a gangbanger; he wasn't no thug," Asher said. "He was a regular kid."
Jamiel Sr. said his son's ultimate goal was to be a sports agent.
"I would tell him, 'I'm going to get you to 18, and if you do what you're supposed to do, you'll get to college'" the father recalled. "He was almost there."
Hardy Williams, football coach at Los Angeles High, said Jamiel was "a very special kid. Not only was he an outstanding athlete, he was a good person."
And, Williams said, he was "a Houdini on the football field."
Jamiel was an all-city first-team selection last season after he rushed for 1,052 yards, averaging more than 14 yards per carry, and scored 10 touchdowns. He also ran track.
In the past week, Williams said, Stanford and Rutgers universities contacted him about Jamiel. "He was elated," Williams recalled.
Police said they are seeking the public's help in identifying the suspects, whom officials described only as two Latino men in a white compact sedan. Investigators believe the shooting was not racially motivated. Jamiel was black.
"Unfortunately, it's not uncommon in L.A. that we have some gang members approaching victims at random just to see if they are (gang members) or not," said police Detective Frank Carillo. "But to shoot them anyway, that's just disgusting."
Jamiel Sr. implored the public for help.
"This is not Iraq; this is L.A.," he told MyFOXLA.com. "You should be able to walk down the damn street — you should be able to walk the street without getting killed. Somebody's seen what happened: Somebody knows. Please help us."
True Ether
the worst part about all this is that shes asking for help, but in the wake of the "stop snitching" movement, which most of you on here ****ing cosign, things like this go unsolved and untouched. Some of you in here will act like this is ****ed up and the gangbangers should be caught, but then in other threads youre quick to call the next man a snitch or advocate for "stop snitchin"
Dropper
03-04-08, 03:24 PM
Yea thats not right holmes.
But how the hell they know what happened if homie is dead? Where did they find out that the vatos who shot the homie asked where he was from? That makes no sense.
And this doesnt happen just in LA... it happens everywhere, so dont put it just on LA gangsters..
westkoast2k2
03-04-08, 03:25 PM
LOS ANGELES — Gang bangers everywhere in LA today are mourning a huge loss they all felt. After learning of a story where a kid with a bright future was killed in a Los Angeles Ghetto the SOHH poster and Mobb Deep tattoo holder Slice Twice as stated he will no longer give them any respect. OG Baby Loc had this to say "Man, we were desperately holding on by the respect we got from some random guy in Long Island. Now with the economy dropping, even less jobs, and all this other **** I don't know if we can handle it anymore. This is serious loc"
west coast avenger
03-04-08, 03:26 PM
that one is nothing, I think it was last week where a crip was running up on two other supposed gang bangers and he ended up shooting 5 kids at a bus stop the age range was from 5-12, its getting pretty bad out here again to say the least
kicknrush
03-04-08, 03:27 PM
threadstarter is white & plays that fckuing online game world of warcraft
ya yo, I'm so addicted to it, I just discovered that warsong gulch is a crazy capture the flag type thing, and tho you don't gain experience, its just crazy crazy crazy fun, that and I got real into the Local Defense Scene, straight up sitting in Astranaar going after Level ??'s with like 20 people
:dry:
west coast avenger
03-04-08, 03:29 PM
There was another shooting in Fullerton a few days ago where another kid just shot another one in the head at point blank range just as he got off the bus, so its not just LA
GERMONE
03-04-08, 03:29 PM
Yea thats not right holmes.
But how the hell they know what happened if homie is dead? Where did they find out that the vatos who shot the homie asked where he was from? That makes no sense.
And this doesnt happen just in LA... it happens everywhere, so dont put it just on LA gangsters..
"Shaw's best friend, Marc Anthony Asher, witnessed the attack, telling MyFOXLA.com the men shot him in the head."
BlackMuzic
03-04-08, 03:33 PM
that one is nothing, I think it was last week where a crip was running up on two other supposed gang bangers and he ended up shooting 5 kids at a bus stop the age range was from 5-12, its getting pretty bad out here again to say the least
all death is something homey especially when they n1gga wasnt in them streets . but yea that shooting at a moving bus sh1t was wild :yes: nobody died right ?
Dropper
03-04-08, 03:35 PM
"Shaw's best friend, Marc Anthony Asher, witnessed the attack, telling MyFOXLA.com the men shot him in the head."
My bad...
BlackMuzic
03-04-08, 03:38 PM
There was another shooting in Fullerton a few days ago where another kid just shot another one in the head at point blank range just as he got off the bus, so its not just LAas much as i hate to admit ..to anyone not from California Fullerton would be considered LA ..especially seeing that most of these posters come from Canada
west coast avenger
03-04-08, 03:46 PM
all death is something homey especially when they n1gga wasnt in them streets . but yea that shooting at a moving bus sh1t was wild :yes: nobody died right ?
Your right! No one lost there life in that shooting, I guess I should have used better words to describe that other shooting, both were senseless though
Saddest part is when the dad recounted on how he was going to get him past 18 and make something of himself. Senseless, just senseless.
TheY2DreProblem
03-04-08, 03:54 PM
god damn shame. It will go unsolved too.
Mercury Hayes
03-04-08, 03:55 PM
And this doesnt happen just in LA... it happens everywhere, so dont put it just on LA gangsters..
cali is the only place where this bull**** happens frequently
i always tell people the difference between cities in cali and other cities is cali dudes kill random people for no gottdamn reason
alot of times in other places its drug related or retaliation purposes for some other bullshyt that happened before
west coast avenger
03-04-08, 03:59 PM
cali is the only place where this bull**** happens frequently
i always tell people the difference between cities in cali and other cities is cali dudes kill random people for no gottdamn reason
alot of times in other places its drug related or retaliation purposes for some other bullshyt that happened before
if that were the case CaLi would have the highest murder rate so I think you are misinformed, them n1ggaz in Philly be wilding when the sun is out
Mercury Hayes
03-04-08, 04:13 PM
like i said man, alot of times when i read alot cali murders, its random ass shootings.
i didnt say anything about the most murders
im from detroit, and alot of the murders there were NOT random. youd hear about good ass people getting murdered premeditatedly but not too often (not me atleast)...murders in the line of fire do happen, but in theory, thats not premeditated.
im in cali now, and i hear shyt like this too much and too often.
i always felt safe in detroit cause the crime there is usually from people who have beef with other people....retaliation crime, drug crime, or something over a bytch.
Endiphrint
03-04-08, 04:17 PM
if that were the case CaLi would have the highest murder rate so I think you are misinformed, them n1ggaz in Philly be wilding when the sun is out
Philly was averaging 6 a day in the summer. That's on some Iraqi millitant chit. On a side note, you ever ponder how strange it is that we can be numb to this? Like I catch myself sometimes, or one might even say I check myself sometimes because my feelings are numb to it all, and i feel somewhat disapointed in myself for being that way, but it happens so much anymore that I find myself more shocked if I hear about someone getting hit by a car. One more thing that stood out to me was this........
Police said they are seeking the public's help in identifying the suspects, whom officials described only as two Latino men in a white compact sedan. Investigators believe the shooting was not racially motivated. Jamiel was black.
With everything being reported about F13 and ECC, or La EMe and the 60's or at least the rumors related to such, it seems somewhat strange that police already have brushed off the racial aspect of it all....
Koolest
03-04-08, 04:20 PM
"Where you from?"
Unbelievable that sh*t still goes on.....
west coast avenger
03-04-08, 04:22 PM
like i said man, alot of times when i read alot cali murders, its random ass shootings.
i didnt say anything about the most murders
im from detroit, and alot of the murders there were NOT random. youd hear about good ass people getting murdered premeditatedly but not too often (not me atleast)...murders in the line of fire do happen, but in theory, thats not premeditated.
im in cali now, and i hear shyt like this too much and too often.
i always felt safe in detroit cause the crime there is usually from people who have beef with other people....retaliation crime, drug crime, or something over a bytch.
CaLi is gang central unfortunately so sh1t goes down like that right now the blacks and the mexicans are waring so sh1t is going to get out of hand just watch when they retaliate from this shooting. What part of CaLi you in?
micadvancement
03-04-08, 04:34 PM
thats messed up...were all gonna die soon homie just never got a chance to show his potential which sucks
BlackMuzic
03-04-08, 04:35 PM
the only reason cali has the most murders in raw numbers is because the state California has 38 million people so you are going to have more murders and murderers amongst a higher population.....but percentagewise Cali doesnt have the most murders
DESTINE-2-SHINE_HNIC
03-04-08, 04:38 PM
Sad situation, thats why i dont do LA. Im not a gangster. Im not pretending to be a gangster. Im sure this cat wasnt either. Its just senseless. Shiit like this you dont blame it on rap music, you blame it on idiocy.
How do you stop it? Its a vicious cycle that is reflective upon the society that we live in. Its weird because were i live (pomona) you hear about this shiit, but you dont necessarily see it. Its just sad, inexcusable.
west coast avenger
03-04-08, 04:42 PM
Sad situation, thats why i dont do LA. Im not a gangster. Im not pretending to be a gangster. Im sure this cat wasnt either. Its just senseless. Shiit like this you dont blame it on rap music, you blame it on idiocy.
How do you stop it? Its a vicious cycle that is reflective upon the society that we live in. Its weird because were i live (pomona) you hear about this shiit, but you dont necessarily see it. Its just sad, inexcusable.
P-Town use to be pretty crazy as well back in the day, I know Holt Blvd. hast changed at all :laugh:
the orange soda kid
03-04-08, 04:47 PM
and then in the next breath people be like Stop Snitchin'...Stop Snitchin'.
people need to start snitching...it's the only way this sht's ever gonna change.
Dropper
03-04-08, 04:49 PM
cali is the only place where this bull**** happens frequently
i always tell people the difference between cities in cali and other cities is cali dudes kill random people for no gottdamn reason
alot of times in other places its drug related or retaliation purposes for some other bullshyt that happened before
You are misinformed holmes.... to say that senseless murder only happens in LA is just being ignorant.
Also in LA, Black and Browns dont get along too well...
Just BlackAf
03-04-08, 04:56 PM
"Where you from?"
Unbelievable that sh*t still goes on.....
Same thing I was thinking. Boyz N The Hood/Menace was 16 years ago....
westkoast2k2
03-04-08, 04:57 PM
P-Town use to be pretty crazy as well back in the day, I know Holt Blvd. hast changed at all :laugh:
Being in pomona is like warping to El Salvador lol
East st and ave
03-04-08, 04:59 PM
sad you can be part of no gang and still got to die because of it
Cantgetright
03-04-08, 05:03 PM
LOS ANGELES — A high school football star described as "a Houdini on the football field" was shot dead on Sunday in random gang violence and his mother was returning from her second tour of duty in Iraq.
Jamiel Andre Shaw, 17, was shot multiple times on a sidewalk a few yards from his home after he didn't respond when two men pulled up in a car and asked him, "Where you from?" — code for which gang did he belong to, police said. He was not a gang member.
Authorities are calling the shooting a random, unprovoked gang attack.
Shaw, a standout running back at Los Angeles High School and the Southern League's most valuable player last season, was shot about 8:40 p.m. Sunday in the Crenshaw area. He died later at a local hospital.
Known to his friends as "Jazz," Shaw was heading places, said his father, Jamiel Shaw Sr.
"He was going to make something out of himself," Jamiel Sr. told MyFOXLA.com. "All he had to do was get out of high school."
His mother, Army Sgt. Anita Shaw, on Monday was on her way back from Iraq, where she has been serving her second tour of duty.
Jamiel Shaw Sr. said he called Jamiel on Sunday night, telling him to hurry home from the mall. A few moments after hanging up, Jamiel Sr. said, he heard the shots outside.
"They killed him while his mother is in Iraq fighting, dodging bullets, and she gets a phone call to say her son is on the streets of L.A., dead. For what?" Jamiel Sr. said.
Shaw's best friend, Marc Anthony Asher, witnessed the attack, telling MyFOXLA.com the men shot him in the head.
"He wasn't a gangbanger; he wasn't no thug," Asher said. "He was a regular kid."
Jamiel Sr. said his son's ultimate goal was to be a sports agent.
"I would tell him, 'I'm going to get you to 18, and if you do what you're supposed to do, you'll get to college'" the father recalled. "He was almost there."
Hardy Williams, football coach at Los Angeles High, said Jamiel was "a very special kid. Not only was he an outstanding athlete, he was a good person."
And, Williams said, he was "a Houdini on the football field."
Jamiel was an all-city first-team selection last season after he rushed for 1,052 yards, averaging more than 14 yards per carry, and scored 10 touchdowns. He also ran track.
In the past week, Williams said, Stanford and Rutgers universities contacted him about Jamiel. "He was elated," Williams recalled.
Police said they are seeking the public's help in identifying the suspects, whom officials described only as two Latino men in a white compact sedan. Investigators believe the shooting was not racially motivated. Jamiel was black.
"Unfortunately, it's not uncommon in L.A. that we have some gang members approaching victims at random just to see if they are (gang members) or not," said police Detective Frank Carillo. "But to shoot them anyway, that's just disgusting."
Jamiel Sr. implored the public for help.
"This is not Iraq; this is L.A.," he told MyFOXLA.com. "You should be able to walk down the damn street — you should be able to walk the street without getting killed. Somebody's seen what happened: Somebody knows. Please help us."
True Ether
thats pretty much an ignorant statement on your part. why single out one city?
if you really want to get down to it, there are more gang related killings in chicago than LA. if you actually knew the situation in LA you might know that latino and black relations have been strained for over 50 years.things are very crazy right now because of it. shiit just boiled over. ****s sad but for you to single out an entire city and an entire group of people is plain ignorant on your part.
Cantgetright
03-04-08, 05:07 PM
and then in the next breath people be like Stop Snitchin'...Stop Snitchin'.
people need to start snitching...it's the only way this sht's ever gonna change.
snitching isnt gonna solve a problem. you ever notice how people who snitch seem to come up missing? snitching is just gonna perpetuate more violence towards those who snitch.
Cliff Huxtable
03-04-08, 05:10 PM
threadstarter is white & plays that fckuing online game world of warcraft
:dry:
LOL...the fckuing part killed it
kingstl
03-04-08, 05:27 PM
Not even trying to be funny, but if u think about it...his mom is in a gang. Everybody who gets kill3d over there isn't a insurgeon or terror!st. I've heard about many a people kill3d for nothing
more of a racial issue than a gang issue
thats pretty much an ignorant statement on your part. why single out one city?
if you really want to get down to it, there are more gang related killings in chicago than LA. if you actually knew the situation in LA you might know that latino and black relations have been strained for over 50 years.things are very crazy right now because of it. shiit just boiled over. ****s sad but for you to single out an entire city and an entire group of people is plain ignorant on your part.
wat the fuc!k, the part u quoted was from the father of the son. not the poster
Cantgetright
03-04-08, 05:37 PM
wat the fuc!k, the part u quoted was from the father of the son. not the poster
i quoted the poster.
the boldface just happened to be posted in the quote
mitchandness
03-04-08, 05:38 PM
some sad sh1t and smh.. how his friend not get hit up? its a set up.
GERMONE
03-04-08, 05:39 PM
Same thing I was thinking. Boyz N The Hood/Menace was 16 years ago....
that just goes to show that sh1t aint changed. you can also watch "boulevard nights" which was filmed in the 70s and its the same sh1t.
its always been like that, tho.
Breeze 50/50
03-04-08, 05:52 PM
damn this might take the Black vs Mexican thing in L.A. to another level.. u know nyggas is gonna retialite
Cantgetright
03-04-08, 05:56 PM
damn this might take the Black vs Mexican thing in L.A. to another level.. u know nyggas is gonna retialite
it reached "another level" a few years ago.shiits insane
HiphopDude420
03-04-08, 06:06 PM
Can Game get some ups for surviving as an orphan out in LA
real talk he is The Face of LA
About this story, Jigga said it's a hard knock l-i-f-e
man me being latino and being from Whittier (southeast L.A.) i been hit up many times....its always been latino gangmember too...
they come up to you and be like "Where you from" and i usually jus say i dont bang and they be coo....
but sometimes their not....one time we were walking to some party in a neighborhood where we dont live and these lil gangster kids came up to us and told us where we from and then they told us it was a pocket check an they showed us they were strapped...
man we were broke so they aint take nothing but some mints and some weed i think from somebody i was wit.
Man and no lie...it was like a group of 10 cholos but like 5 came up to us and one of them was like 8 yrs old talkin about "empty ur pockets....u want this the easy way or the hard way"....
the rest of em were like highschool kids but they came strapped though.
Mercury Hayes
03-04-08, 07:08 PM
****s sad b
Mercury Hayes
03-04-08, 07:11 PM
CaLi is gang central unfortunately so sh1t goes down like that right now the blacks and the mexicans are waring so sh1t is going to get out of hand just watch when they retaliate from this shooting. What part of CaLi you in?
im in oakland man, i mean its a decent part of oakland..but anybody can get touched. i know the citys been goin thru some thangs recently. one of my girls' sisters boyfriend got murdered on some random ****...i just dont get it man.:sad:
Slice-Twice
03-04-08, 07:16 PM
snitching isnt gonna solve a problem. you ever notice how people who snitch seem to come up missing? snitching is just gonna perpetuate more violence towards those who snitch.
Mafia fiction man, your afriad to grow some balls and be part of fixing the situation, or you gonna tuck ya d_ck between ya legs the rest of your life
Slice-Twice
03-04-08, 07:28 PM
To the people who think I'm singling LA out, here me out, I use to watch the news in the morning and hear stories bout a family from ny drove a blue rent a car down the "wrong block" and the whole "white family" got executed, you gonna tell me the gang thought they were bangers. I hate it more when rappers be glorifyin cali lifestyle, that ish aint cool, they got severe mental problems out there, its nothing to admire or emulate
Yea this ish goes on everywhere, but the petty reasons they get into out in cali is like ridiculous, and nothing for nothing, but that black vs brown problem is the goverments fault at the end of the day
siccinthehead
03-04-08, 07:31 PM
To the people who think I'm singling LA out, here me out, I use to watch the news in the morning and hear stories bout a family from ny drove a blue rent a car down the "wrong block" and the whole "white family" got executed, you gonna tell me the gang thought they were bangers. I hate it more when rappers be glorifyin cali lifestyle, that ish aint cool, they got severe mental problems out there, its nothing to admire or emulate
Yea this ish goes on everywhere, but the petty reasons they get into out in cali is like ridiculous, and nothing for nothing, but that black vs brown problem is the goverments fault at the end of the day
this story aint nothing special, nigguhs in cali get domed on the regular. from daygo, to santa ana, to la, to oaktown, to sac town, its all the same. alotta violence on these streets man.
BlackMuzic
03-04-08, 08:14 PM
sh1ts has been wild in LA this week
Crip shoots 8 people on a bus (http://cbs2.com/local/Shooting.Los.Angeles.2.664520.html)
1 killed in Koreatown shooting (http://cbs2.com/local/Koreatown.shooting.attack.2.666704.html)
man gets shot and killed on the hollywood freeway (http://cbs2.com/local/Shooting.Dispute.Hollywood.2.666728.html)
Man Killed in Compto (http://cbs2.com/local/shooting.shot.killed.2.667592.html)n
2 men killed in south central drive-by (http://cbs2.com/local/Men.Killed.2.2.668281.html)
Man shot at gas station (http://cbs2.com/local/Los.Angeles.West.2.668301.html)
Man stabbed to death (http://cbs2.com/local/Vermont.Knolls.Stabbing.2.668361.html)
Man Killed in Drive by in Mid-City (http://cbs2.com/local/Drive.By.Shooting.2.668396.html)
Latino Father & Son get shot in south central (http://www.cbs2.com/video/?id=61260@kcbs.dayport.com)
High School football player gets killed (http://www.cbs2.com/video/?id=61316@kcbs.dayport.com)
A 6 year old just shot at 12:30 PM today (http://www.cbs2.com/video/?id=61315@kcbs.dayport.com) - link
RAZAH CUTS
03-04-08, 08:29 PM
straight up senseless and shameful.....L.A. is rapidly turning into just another American wasteland like Philly and Detroit.....
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