Weezy & Jeezy have been the overall best rappers in the industry the past 5 years

[Cantgetright]

bc he makes good music and the hood can relate to drug users, hood nikkaz can relate to weed headz, hood nikkaz can relate to pill headz, hood nikkaz can relate to syrup drinkers.......

what about coke heads lol. i still find it hilarious that he made the song ima d boy and gets caught with coke on more than one occaision. that so goes against rule number 4 of the 10 crack commandments lol. but then again BG was on heroin for the longest and nobody really talks about that. i guess if your a fan/stan you could care less what they do as long as you like the music they make

[Karim Kharbouch]

what about coke heads lol. i still find it hilarious that he made the song ima d boy and gets caught with coke on more than one occaision. that so goes against rule number 4 of the 10 crack commandments lol. but then again BG was on heroin for the longest and nobody really talks about that. i guess if your a fan/stan you could care less what they do as long as you like the music they make
in real life there is no such thing as "10 Rules to the Game" b/c nikkaz are stupid and get popped for stupid chit all the time....

For example all dem tuff muthafuccaz who refuse to put on seatbelts, and be driving with work on them. Or the cat with expired tags transporting his work, with a susp license, its like what the FUKK??

[Karim Kharbouch]

what about coke heads lol. i still find it hilarious that he made the song ima d boy and gets caught with coke on more than one occaision. that so goes against rule number 4 of the 10 crack commandments lol. but then again BG was on heroin for the longest and nobody really talks about that. i guess if your a fan/stan you could care less what they do as long as you like the music they make
back on topic tho.....
aint nobody fukking with Weezy or Jeezy the past 5 years. Kanye come close, but he aint embraced as much, even tho he move more records, and arguebly(sp?) makes better music.

[Cantgetright]

back on topic tho.....
aint nobody fukking with Weezy or Jeezy the past 5 years. Kanye come close, but he aint embraced as much, even tho he move more records, and arguebly(sp?) makes better music.

should we bring jigga into this discussion or we ruling him out? i dont think his last few cds were worth buying even tho i did:sad: . i love jeezys music because he actually makes it so were it doesnt really get boring and if it does wait a week and its like it was brand new again

[Karim Kharbouch]

should we bring jigga into this discussion or we ruling him out? i dont think his last few cds were worth buying even tho i did:sad: . i love jeezys music because he actually makes it so were it doesnt really get boring and if it does wait a week and its like it was brand new again
Naw, I think Jay is real down the totem pole when we talking last 5....He still tryna regain his swagger now.....And he doing a good job with that new track he got out 'Movado" or some chit like that.....That bytch is like :ohmy:

but naw he aint on top of either of those dudes. Jay smart, notice he has stayed relevant by absorbing himself in some way with the top dudes...Wayne, Jeezy

[Gator]

wayne had 04, 05, 06, 07, and about to have 08 on lock....:ohmy:

[Karim Kharbouch]

wayne had 04, 05, 06, 07, and about to have 08 on lock....:ohmy:
that would be 5 years.

[Cantgetright]

wayne had 04, 05, 06, 07, and about to have 08 on lock....:ohmy:

04 was 50s.
even tho GRODT came out in 03.he ran rap from GRODT till the a little before the documentary dropped. id say jay had 05 because he supposedly was retiring.

[Cantgetright]

im sorta inclined to give 06 to TI. he was all over the radio

[Karim Kharbouch]

im sorta inclined to give 06 to TI. he was all over the radio
i can agree to that...and TV

Ti is a knucklehead I am :mad: at him

[Cantgetright]

i can agree to that...and TV
Ti is a knucklehead I am :mad: at him

i find it hilarious how we down our rappers for rapping about things they dont do, but the first instance they do what they rap about we either call them idiots or we say the man trying to bring him down. only thing i can give TI credit for was not geting busted with a lil pea shooter or anything,if your gonna get taken down at least do it big.that pretty much did him in for runninng rap for a long time.

[Karim Kharbouch]

i find it hilarious how we down our rappers for rapping about things they dont do, but the first instance they do what they rap about we either call them idiots or we say the man trying to bring him down. only thing i can give TI credit for was not geting busted with a lil pea shooter or anything,if your gonna get taken down at least do it big.that pretty much did him in for runninng rap for a long time.
mayne forget all that, this young man was at the top of his profession, and had such a bright future.
You can still be bout what you rapping about somewhat, but at the end of the day, be smart about your chit.

I.E Michael Vick

[RealHiphop2000]

No, doubt about it, from buzz, mixtapes, quality of Retail albums, dropping heat on guest appearances these 2 dudes have consistently held it down the past 5 years
And thats including everybody from ya'll favorite boy Lupe, Jay, Tip, Snoop, everybody
Its like those 2 are the Kobe and Lebron of the Rap Game
Man, Why can't you at least stay consistent. One day you'll make a thread that makes a lot of sense. Then the next, you make some off the wall bull**** thread. It's like you looking for Shock Value. I don't think you made this thread with a straight face, especially since Jeezy hasn't even been known Worldwide for 5 years.:thumbsdow

[Karim Kharbouch]

Man, Why can't you at least stay consistent. One day you'll make a thread that makes a lot of sense. Then the next, you make some off the wall bull**** thread. It's like you looking for Shock Value. I don't think you made this thread with a straight face, especially since Jeezy hasn't even been known Worldwide for 5 years.:thumbsdow
To me all my threads, make sense. I may say the same for yours. Its all in the eye of the beholder....

Jeezy been known since 03 homie, really 02, Trap or Die dropped in 03 and So Icy came out soon after. That was a nationwide hit

[Cantgetright]

Man, Why can't you at least stay consistent. One day you'll make a thread that makes a lot of sense. Then the next, you make some off the wall bull**** thread. It's like you looking for Shock Value. I don't think you made this thread with a straight face, especially since Jeezy hasn't even been known Worldwide for 5 years.:thumbsdow

the thread does make sense. this is just open for debate.if it didnt make any sense we would have stopped posting.

[RealHiphop2000]

To me all my threads, make sense. I may say the same for yours. Its all in the eye of the beholder....
Jeezy been known since 03 homie, really 02, Trap or Die dropped in 03 and So Icy came out soon after. That was a nationwide hit
I agree that Wayne has been 1 of the best overall, but not for the past 5 years, more like the last 2 to 3 years to be realistic, because before Tha Carter II dropped Wayne was looked at as a normal ass rapper let's keep it real, yea he had fans but it wasn't Weezymania like it's been the past 2 years. And What did Jeezy do so meaningful in 2007 for you to say he's 1 of the best overall?

[Karim Kharbouch]

I agree that Wayne has been 1 of the best overall, but not for the past 5 years, more like the last 2 to 3 years to be realistic, because before Tha Carter II dropped Wayne was looked at as a normal ass rapper let's keep it real, yea he had fans but it wasn't Weezymania like it's been the past 2 years. And What did Jeezy do so meaningful in 2007 for you to say he's 1 of the best overall?
Wayne began his takeover directly following D1, and proceeded to drop C1..

Jeezy aint done nothing but been on hit after hit in 07...Most of raps hottest tracks this year had the snowman on it
Cant tell me nothing(your boy kanye), we takin ova, brown paper bag, they know remix, umma do me remix, usher new song which set a billboard record...

thats all

[Cantgetright]

I agree that Wayne has been 1 of the best overall, but not for the past 5 years, more like the last 2 to 3 years to be realistic, because before Tha Carter II dropped Wayne was looked at as a normal ass rapper let's keep it real, yea he had fans but it wasn't Weezymania like it's been the past 2 years. And What did Jeezy do so meaningful in 2007 for you to say he's 1 of the best overall?

lets get it started the snowman craze and the infamous "im not a rapper" statement.both of his cds are solid thruout.dude dropped a clothing line.and had his fair share of features. who are your best overall then?

[RealHiphop2000]

lets get it started the snowman craze and the infamous "im not a rapper" statement.both of his cds are solid thruout.dude dropped a clothing line.and had his fair share of features. who are your best overall then?
To be honest with you, Like him or not Kanye West has been holding it down for Hip-Hop wayyyy more than Jeezy. Of course Kanye don't got the streets behind him like Jeezy, but he's more appealing to a wider audience. He been holding it down every since College Dropout came out 4 years ago. How many White people you think bought Jeezy last album.....Yea That's right 0.

[Karim Kharbouch]

To be honest with you, Like him or not Kanye West has been holding it down for Hip-Hop wayyyy more than Jeezy. Of course Kanye don't got the streets behind him like Jeezy, but he's more appealing to a wider audience. He been holding it down every since College Dropout came out 4 years ago. How many White people you think bought Jeezy last album.....Yea That's right 0.
a bunch of white people, dude scanned like 1.3 milli, and thats only domestic sales. im sure snowman get some love in places like the UK, and chit, so in hindsight, obviously many euro's bought The Inspiration

[Cantgetright]

Wayne began his takeover directly following D1, and proceeded to drop C1..
Jeezy aint done nothing but been on hit after hit in 07...Most of raps hottest tracks this year had the snowman on it
Cant tell me nothing(your boy kanye), we takin ova, brown paper bag, they know remix, umma do me remix, usher new song which set a billboard record...
thats all
:laugh: @ the fact that cant tell me nothing was the b side to "i got money" and was a monster of a single.

dont forget the we taking over remix and in 06 he was on the hustling remix which he outshined jigga on. dude has been holding his own as of late. just when you ask about what happened to jeezy he pops up like mowgli in JBO and delivers something thats either anthemic or worth putting on repeat

[RealHiphop2000]

a bunch of white people, dude scanned like 1.3 milli, and thats only domestic sales. im sure snowman get some love in places like the UK, and chit, so in hindsight, obviously many euro's bought The Inspiration
OK, But do you agree that Ye has been holding the game down better than Jeezy?

[Karim Kharbouch]

OK, But do you agree that Ye has been holding the game down better than Jeezy?
No I dont. Snowman been more visible, active and consistent....

Ye kinda got Dr. Dre-ish a lil

[Karim Kharbouch]

:laugh: @ the fact that cant tell me nothing was the b side to "i got money" and was a monster of a single.
dont forget the we taking over remix and in 06 he was on the hustling remix which he outshined jigga on. dude has been holding his own as of late. just when you ask about what happened to jeezy he pops up like mowgli in JBO and delivers something thats either anthemic or worth putting on repeat
:laugh::laugh:
was even funnier is Jeezy turned down the track 1st, and Ye got it from Toomp and made a monster hit...Props to Toomp and Kanye, even tho Im on the other side of the debate fence.....

Helluva Helluva song....

[Gator]

04 was 50s.
even tho GRODT came out in 03.he ran rap from GRODT till the a little before the documentary dropped. id say jay had 05 because he supposedly was retiring.


50 is no longer in demand...jay is a legend, but i mean....come on..

wayne is still in demand after all these years and is dropping the biggest album of his career....

aint nobody really checking 4 50 anymore

and hov is still doing it...but aint nobody really banging his shyt like they banging weezy shyt

*****z still dumping dedication 1 and 2 man....and drought 3..

[Cantgetright]

OK, But do you agree that Ye has been holding the game down better than Jeezy?

kanye has more of an impact in the game but he ventures alot into other areas too. as far as strickly hip hop jeezy is holding down right now.

[RealHiphop2000]

No I dont. Snowman been more visible, active and consistent....
Ye kinda got Dr. Dre-ish a lil
Dang man thats a good one:laugh: More Visible? How many award shows have Jeezy performed at? More Active? Kanye Has released 3 classic albums in 4 years. More Consistent? I think Kanye got Jeezy beat, besides that U.S.D.A. album was:thumbsdow

[Karim Kharbouch]

Dang man thats a good one:laugh: More Visible? How many award shows have Jeezy performed at? More Active? Kanye Has released 3 classic albums in 4 years. More Consistent? I think Kanye got Jeezy beat, besides that U.S.D.A. album was:thumbsdow
cmon award shows, he at all the ones black people care about...Kanye use them big award shows just like the use him, he and they knew he gonna spazz out on tv and cuss out people backstage(he/they do it ever year) it equals rating, and good promo for Ye...

Ye dont have 3 classics in my eyes....thats all perception.

Most cats group albums leave alot to be desired, Jeezy wasnt even on all them songs, probably why peeps disdain it.

[RealHiphop2000]

cmon award shows, he at all the ones black people care about...Kanye use them big award shows just like the use him, he and they knew he gonna spazz out on tv and cuss out people backstage(he/they do it ever year) it equals rating, and good promo for Ye...

Ye dont have 3 classics in my eyes....thats all perception.

Most cats group albums leave alot to be desired, Jeezy wasnt even on all them songs, probably why peeps disdain it.
What do you consider a classic album? Because I know for a fact that Thug Motivation 101 and The Inspiration were not classic, they were just average/good albums.

[Karim Kharbouch]

What do you consider a classic album? Because I know for a fact that Thug Motivation 101 and The Inspiration were not classic, they were just average/good albums.
case in point.

[RealHiphop2000]

case in point.
That's an invalid statement ^^^^^ Both of Jeezy albums can't hold Kanye's s albums jockstrap, not to mention that all 3 albums went 2x platinum and UP

[Karim Kharbouch]

That's an invalid statement ^^^^^ Both of Jeezy albums can't hold Kanye's s albums jockstrap, not to mention that all 3 albums went 2x platinum and UP
case in point pt. 2

Then based on your own very own logic. The Inspiration is eons better than Nas illmatic, even tho I would believe it in certain parts of the country on SOHH, I would be e-beheaded.

You mess up when you wanna bring up sales so fast in a debate like this.

Do you think The Inspiration was overall better than Outkast first joint, or OB4CL????

Bring a better arguement to my table

[Cantgetright]

That's an invalid statement ^^^^^ Both of Jeezy albums can't hold Kanye's s albums jockstrap, not to mention that all 3 albums went 2x platinum and UP

thug motivation did over 2.5 mil worldwide
and the inspiration did 1.1 mil domestically

but seeing the commercial appeal and likeableness kanye posesses id say its a good showing since jeezy doesnt have the backing kayne did

[Karim Kharbouch]

thug motivation did over 2.5 mil worldwide
and the inspiration did 1.1 mil domestically
but seeing the commercial appeal and likeableness kanye posesses id say its a good showing since jeezy doesnt have the backing kayne did
another reason not to bring up sales #'s in debates like this, b/c them same numbers will starting biting thee in thy azz

[Cantgetright]

in jeezys defense. white america isnt really gonna embrace a drug dealer turned rapper. so that gives his sales just that much more of a accomplishment

[RealHiphop2000]

case in point pt. 2
Then based on your own very own logic. The Inspiration is eons better than Nas illmatic, even tho I would believe it in certain parts of the country on SOHH, I would be e-beheaded.
You mess up when you wanna bring up sales so fast in a debate like this.
Do you think The Inspiration was overall better than Outkast first joint, or OB4CL????
Bring a better arguement to my table
You lost:yes: Never compare Nas to that flass in the pan "Young Jeezy" Illmatic is the bible of hip-hop while The Inspiration is Southern Trash. That's a no-no:thumbsdow

[RealHiphop2000]

case in point pt. 2
Then based on your own very own logic. The Inspiration is eons better than Nas illmatic, even tho I would believe it in certain parts of the country on SOHH, I would be e-beheaded.
You mess up when you wanna bring up sales so fast in a debate like this.
Do you think The Inspiration was overall better than Outkast first joint, or OB4CL????
Bring a better arguement to my table
Stay on task my nicca, how did you go from Kanye To Nas. We about to go onto a whole nother level when you talk about Hip-hop royalty:king:

[Cantgetright]

case in point pt. 2
Then based on your own very own logic. The Inspiration is eons better than Nas illmatic, even tho I would believe it in certain parts of the country on SOHH, I would be e-beheaded.
You mess up when you wanna bring up sales so fast in a debate like this.
Do you think The Inspiration was overall better than Outkast first joint, or OB4CL????
Bring a better arguement to my table

this is dudes opinion.
and he is going off your sales making an album a classic. and using that logic MC hammer would shiit on all those albums

illmatic isnt the bible of hip hop. if anything its a verse. rakim and krs laid down alot more work just so nas could even get that far.

[RealHiphop2000]

this is dudes opinion.
and he is going off your sales making an album a classic. and using that logic MC hammer would shiit on all those albums

illmatic isnt the bible of hip hop. if anything its a verse. rakim and krs laid down alot more work just so nas could even get that far.
Illmatic is one of the greatest albums of all-time. And sales don't make albums classic because in that case Illmatic would be 5x platinum:yes:

[Cantgetright]

Illmatic is one of the greatest albums of all-time. And sales don't make albums classic because in that case Illmatic would be 5x platinum:yes:

that what dude was saying. you used the sales numbers to provide proof that kanyes cd was that much better. so thats why i said that MC hammer would shiit on all those albums.

and even putting illmatic at 5x plat, hammer still went diamond.

[Karim Kharbouch]

You lost:yes: Never compare Nas to that flass in the pan "Young Jeezy" Illmatic is the bible of hip-hop while The Inspiration is Southern Trash. That's a no-no:thumbsdow
you starting to sound like some craze white boy 17 yr old fan...you were doing decent before

[Karim Kharbouch]

Stay on task my nicca, how did you go from Kanye To Nas. We about to go onto a whole nother level when you talk about Hip-hop royalty:king:
that what dude was saying. you used the sales numbers to provide proof that kanyes cd was that much better. so thats why i said that MC hammer would shiit on all those albums.

and even putting illmatic at 5x plat, hammer still went diamond.

^^thanks for translating for the slow and less inclined.

[hexagram23]

in jeezys defense. white america isnt really gonna embrace a drug dealer turned rapper. so that gives his sales just that much more of a accomplishment

Never heard of 50 Cent, eh?

Fred.

[Karim Kharbouch]

Never heard of 50 Cent, eh?
Fred.
he probably talking about a 'real dboy'

[hexagram23]

he probably talking about a 'real dboy'

50 Cent caught a felony charge when he was 19 for slanging heroin and coke, plus people who don't even like him like Dom and Smurf have verified he was heavy into the drug game. I think 50 is wack as f*ck, but he definitely sold a gang of drugs at one point.

As far as I know, Jeezy ain't even sold a Flintstone Chewable Vitamin, and lives off the rep and life story of Meech.

Fred.

[RealHiphop2000]

^^thanks for translating for the slow and less inclined.
You got it wrong, I wasn't using Kanye's numbers to prove his album was that much better, I was just stating the facts, It is what it is i mean numbers do mean Something. But I think all 3 of Kanye's albums speak for themselves regardless of the numbers. IMO, some of the best albums of all-times didn't do HUGE numbers, like Reasonable Doubt. Yea, but Kanyes numbers IMO, was just icing on the cake in my argument.

[Karim Kharbouch]

50 Cent caught a felony charge when he was 19 for slanging heroin and coke, plus people who don't even like him like Dom and Smurf have verified he was heavy into the drug game. I think 50 is wack as f*ck, but he definitely sold a gang of drugs at one point.
As far as I know, Jeezy ain't even sold a Flintstone Chewable Vitamin, and lives off the rep and life story of Meech.
Fred.
50 caught a charge and they found less than half a O on him and a gun and about 2-3k in cash....O yea, he was def Kingpinning it......

Jeezy did his with the biggest crew, in modern day history

[Karim Kharbouch]

You got it wrong, I wasn't using Kanye's numbers to prove his album was that much better, I was just stating the facts, It is what it is i mean numbers do mean Something. But I think all 3 of Kanye's albums speak for themselves regardless of the numbers. IMO, some of the best albums of all-times didn't do HUGE numbers, like Reasonable Doubt. Yea, but Kanyes numbers IMO, was just icing on the cake in my argument.
so by you same logic The Inspiration was better than IllMatic, OB4CL, OUTKAST first Joint, and by your same logic TM101 was better than 36 Chambers, and reasonable doubt, right?????

since #'s do mean something

[Cantgetright]

You got it wrong, I wasn't using Kanye's numbers to prove his album was that much better, I was just stating the facts, It is what it is i mean numbers do mean Something. But I think all 3 of Kanye's albums speak for themselves regardless of the numbers. IMO, some of the best albums of all-times didn't do HUGE numbers, like Reasonable Doubt. Yea, but Kanyes numbers IMO, was just icing on the cake in my argument.

most people didnt think reasonable doubt was a great album until jay z became prominent. hell most people bought all his other albums and then went back and got reasonable doubt

[RealHiphop2000]

so by you same logic The Inspiration was better than IllMatic, OB4CL, OUTKAST first Joint, and by your same logic TM101 was better than 36 Chambers, and reasonable doubt, right?????
since #'s do mean something
Once again, my point is flyin right over yo head. I said numbers mean SOMETHING, not numbers mean EVERYTHING. If numbers didn't mean something there would be no reason to even keep track of numbers...RIGHT? So how you got me saying "The Inspiration" is better than "illmatic" out of that, I will never know. I mean, really sit there and think about what you read before you type, because you are really starting to scare me with your logic.