JIM JONES is Flopppin!!!! HARLEM'S AMERICAN GANGSTER SOLD 22,058 first week

[jagger03]

JIM JONES HARLEM'S AMERICAN GANGSTER sold 22,058 its first week..WOW

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[Qhustla]

isnt that a mixtape?

[Still Shinin]

yea i dont think this is his official follow up album to POME. just a retail release, but im not sure

[RAZAH CUTS]

why do people care so much about sales man? Nobody sells a lot anymore you fukkin idiot.....I don't even like Jones's music but damn, was you expecting him to do Jay'Z numbers or somethin'??

[NippleTits]

thats actually really good for a mixtape with hardly any promo


If I didnt know a big Jim Jones fan, I wouldn't have known this was a release.

[SubLyminalz]

why do people care so much about sales man? Nobody sells a lot anymore you fukkin idiot.....I don't even like Jones's music but damn, was you expecting him to do Jay'Z numbers or somethin'??
exacly, plus it was only a mixtape

[jagger03]

yea i dont think this is his official follow up album to POME. just a retail release, but im not sure

If its a release ....its a release....call it a mixtape all you want but its a release......we talkin about practice?

[Mertbag]

the distribution companies are forcing these mixtapes b/c they want something out of their artists while they slapbox each other in between album release years. i dont know how its worth it after the sample clearances though.

[smoove157]

If its a release ....its a release....call it a mixtape all you want but its a release......we talkin about practice?
nah, we talmbout not have any promotion or really any other costs associated with the project. we're also talking about nyggas in the hood having this for free for a minute already, and midwest cornfield internet fags like you going to cop the "official release" at target. i call that a 2 for 1 special.

[Still Shinin]

If its a release ....its a release....call it a mixtape all you want but its a release......we talkin about practice?
yea its an official release but its not his official follow up album. like saigon is yet to put out he's debut album but he has an official release in Warning Shots. 50 has 4 albums, but he has an officail release with "Guess Who Back". thats all i meant, so i dont think they will put as much behind this one.

[Qhustla]

Its a re-released mixtape. Relax yourself. Now go bump your Mike Jones.

[jagger03]

and why put out mixtapes aka "tracks that dont make the album" which means they arent quality....real smart.......i think we all love tracks that suck:thumbsdow:thumbsdow

[jagger03]

Its a re-released mixtape. Relax yourself. Now go bump your Mike Jones.

Mike Jones had a few good tracks but im not gonna drop and give ya 50...:smoker::smoker: im relaxed now

[SubLyminalz]

If its a release ....its a release....call it a mixtape all you want but its a release......we talkin about practice?
awk that mixtape was on all the mixtape sites a month before it even came out in stores, and i don't recall him having any promotion for it, you and this stupid ass thread lost

[TUC2DaBoot]

Nyggas need to stop making up excuses for "official" mixtape releases.

If the label wanted the album in stores, it's meant to sell for profit. Maybe not 500k or more, but something. You just don't nationally release a mixtape album for kicks. And with that said, 22k is horrible... Cassidy did more than that with 1 average song and little promotion. Jim has a video out too...

[Mertbag]

didnt they take off Max B and make the overall album worse too? im amazed it sold 22,000 when some of those guys in december were only selling 30-40,000 first week.

[Mertbag]

Nyggas need to stop making up excuses for "official" mixtape releases.
If the label wanted the album in stores, it's meant to sell for profit. Maybe not 500k or more, but something. You just don't nationally release a mixtape album for kicks. And with that said, 22k is horrible... Cassidy did more than that with 1 average song and little promotion. Jim has a video out too...

you cant compare this to cassidy man...that was cassidy's statement album...and he failed miserably. i wish it wasnt so, but that didnt deserve 1 more sale than it got.

[Just BlackAf]

Thats very good for a mixtape peoples albums end up selling that much

[pop203]

plus it was released thru Koch Records so 22,000 = 22 million in Jim's pocket. jim won.

[jagger03]

awk that mixtape was on all the mixtape sites a month before it even came out in stores, and i don't recall him having any promotion for it, you and this stupid ass thread lost

no jim jones took the L cause hes not making any money off this....and what a dumbass to release a mixtape on sites a month before hand and no promo before it hit stores...what a smart biz man:thumbsdow:thumbsdow

[jagger03]

plus it was released thru Koch Records so 22,000 = 22 million in Jim's pocket. jim won.

22,000 x 10.00 = 220,000 :smoker:

[pop203]

22,000 x 10.00 = 220,000 :smoker:

he makes 100 dollars an album.

[jagger03]

Nyggas need to stop making up excuses for "official" mixtape releases.
If the label wanted the album in stores, it's meant to sell for profit. Maybe not 500k or more, but something. You just don't nationally release a mixtape album for kicks. And with that said, 22k is horrible... Cassidy did more than that with 1 average song and little promotion. Jim has a video out too...

Damn right

[jagger03]

he makes 100 dollars an album.
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[AskariSTL//So]

why do people care so much about sales man? Nobody sells a lot anymore you fukkin idiot.....I don't even like Jones's music but damn, was you expecting him to do Jay'Z numbers or somethin'??
Well it stems from how much love Jones is shown on here. You know how it is... For every fan of a rapper that puts up a thread, there are a couple haters who feel the need to come in and criticize

I'm not a big fan of Jimmy but it should be noted that if it's about paper to these cats, its relevant to bring up the fact that with a mixtape, independant release Jim Jones is seeing more paper than many rappers with lackluster album sales see on a major, plus keeps his name out there and relevant...

[Still Shinin]

no jim jones took the L cause hes not making any money off this....and what a dumbass to release a mixtape on sites a month before hand and no promo before it hit stores...what a smart biz man:thumbsdow:thumbsdow
u dont seem to understand, jimmy didnt want no money for this, he released it as a mixtape to give away for free. its Koch, he's label that decided to put it out and make some change off it, Jimmy did not take it to them. so really its on them, jim aint bothered, more power to Koch if they wanna put it out. Rappers put out mixtapes for free all the time, this is very common, just look at Cams recent one

[Salad Tosser]

JIM JONES HARLEM'S AMERICAN GANGSTER sold 22,058 its first week..WOW
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"COOORRRRNNNNYYYYY!!!!!!"



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[jagger03]

u dont seem to understand, jimmy didnt want no money for this, he released it as a mixtape to give away for free. its Koch, he's label that decided to put it out and make some change off it, Jimmy did not take it to them. so really its on them, jim aint bothered, more power to Koch if they wanna put it out. Rappers put out mixtapes for free all the time, this is very common, just look at Cams recent one

i do understand....you dont think he wants to make money?????????

He's label ... lol

[jagger03]

"COOORRRRNNNNYYYYY!!!!!!"
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the salad you tossed last night must of had cooorrrnnnyyy chunks left for ya..:laugh:

[checkman]

regardless he's gonna make 5 bucks off the album,a quick 100 grand,jimmy is gettin that paper

[kicknrush]

Nyggas need to stop making up excuses for "official" mixtape releases.
If the label wanted the album in stores, it's meant to sell for profit. Maybe not 500k or more, but something. You just don't nationally release a mixtape album for kicks. And with that said, 22k is horrible... Cassidy did more than that with 1 average song and little promotion. Jim has a video out too...
word!

[Gator]

that seems good imo

[grock2727]

Jim Jones is seeing more paper than many rappers with lackluster album sales see on a major, plus keeps his name out there and relevant...

Why would any artist still trying to blow up sell himself out for a quick few dollars? Selling 22k is a very bad look in the public eye, he's keeping his name out there allright, but as a flopping 1-hit wonder.

And to those talking about those numbers are good because he had no promo, are you aware we're talking about the same album that had a video, ads in magazines, prime spots in major retail circulars, and he went on 106 to plug it?

[jagger03]

Why would any artist still trying to blow up sell himself out for a quick few dollars? Selling 22k is a very bad look in the public eye, he's keeping his name out there allright, but as a flopping 1-hit wonder.And to those talking about those numbers are good because he had no promo, are you aware we're talking about the same album that had a video, ads in magazines, prime spots in major retail circulars, and he went on 106 to plug it?

that sums it up

[RaymondFarris]

You n1ggaz just don't get it....

Harlem American Gangster isn't nothing but Mood Muzik 3 or we got it for cheap 3....but with a video....jim jones doing his thing...

You n1ggaz idiots.

[6FiggieNiggie]

isnt that a mixtape?

that's what I was thinking...... it's pretty good numbers for a mixtape in this day and age.

[grock2727]

You n1ggaz just don't get it....
Harlem American Gangster isn't nothing but Mood Muzik 3 or we got it for cheap 3....but with a video....jim jones doing his thing...
You n1ggaz idiots.

So do you deny or are you just not aware that the album had more then just a video. Check the mags, check last weeks Best Buy or Circuit City circular, then go on youtube to see the clip of this supposed "mixtape" being plugged by the artist on 106 and Park, I think you'll agree this was pushed a hell of a lot more then a mixtape.

[eseenee]

nah, we talmbout not have any promotion or really any other costs associated with the project. we're also talking about nyggas in the hood having this for free for a minute already, and midwest cornfield internet fags like you going to cop the "official release" at target. i call that a 2 for 1 special.

Plus don't he get $3000 per unit sold?!

[FallBackSonn]

Koch

[Mr.Sam]

So do you deny or are you just not aware that the album had more then just a video. Check the mags, check last weeks Best Buy or Circuit City circular, then go on youtube to see the clip of this supposed "mixtape" being plugged by the artist on 106 and Park, I think you'll agree this was pushed a hell of a lot more then a mixtape.

It's a mixtape. I think Jones is awful, not a fan at all, but y'all try way too hard. It is a MIX TAPE. Not an album.

[dumassispumanti]

Nyggas need to stop making up excuses for "official" mixtape releases.
If the label wanted the album in stores, it's meant to sell for profit. Maybe not 500k or more, but something. You just don't nationally release a mixtape album for kicks. And with that said, 22k is horrible... Cassidy did more than that with 1 average song and little promotion. Jim has a video out too...

And it'll make a profit. It made a profit as a bootleg on the street, this is just cake. YOU need to stop making excuses for hatred. I can't stand Jones, but even I see that this isn't some horrible number and it's NOT a tradtional album.

no jim jones took the L cause hes not making any money off this....

Sure he is. People on the net still seem to feel as though they know a business model better than the people involved. Why wouldn't he make money?

[odd angle]

threadstarter just made this to stir up sh1t. first off that is very good for a mixtape freeways second album sold a little more than that. this will keep jims name out there untill his album comes out. im sure he is doing alot of shows off birdgang money/ love me no more they both hot songs.

[dumassispumanti]

Why would any artist still trying to blow up sell himself out for a quick few dollars? Selling 22k is a very bad look in the public eye, he's keeping his name out there allright, but as a flopping 1-hit wonder.
And to those talking about those numbers are good because he had no promo, are you aware we're talking about the same album that had a video, ads in magazines, prime spots in major retail circulars, and he went on 106 to plug it?

The general public doesn't know or care about this mixtape, not to mention how much it sells. This is for his fanbase. I never saw an ad in any magazine for this thing. Videos are easy to make, I can make one right now and put it out for 0 dollars. Jim Jones going on 106 didnt cost a dime, he could've come by to visit if he wanted to. You're reaching.

[TUC2DaBoot]

And it'll make a profit. It made a profit as a bootleg on the street, this is just cake. YOU need to stop making excuses for hatred. I can't stand Jones, but even I see that this isn't some horrible number and it's NOT a tradtional album.
Sure he is. People on the net still seem to feel as though they know a business model better than the people involved. Why wouldn't he make money?

Make it your best interest to not approach me like that. If you think 22k is great, then that's fine. I'll make sure to note next time some rapper that drops a mixtape/album nationally does less than 25k first week... I'll ask if that's good for them or not...

[Still Shinin]

i do understand....you dont think he wants to make money?????????
He's label ... lol
no u dont understand. yes he wants money, but initially it was a free mixtape(not an album), again, a free mixtape...to combat jayz's AG album so he could get some buzz. at this point he didnt want money from it, it was after Koch brought the deal to the table to make it an album that he wanted to get some of the money. thousands of mixtapes are released for FREE...this was no different. yeah his runnin with it but better believe he would go alot harder when album time comes, he also wont be releasing his album for free download 2 months prior before its actual release date

[lavibe]

i wanna sell 22K of a mixtape I done relaesed already 4 months earlier lmao

[Absolut da poet]

i read throught the whole first page and not ONE of you fukks mentioned if the shiit was any good..

:thumbsdow

wtf..

IS THE SHIIT GOOD or NOT..

who gives a fukk about what it sold

[eseenee]

Jim Jones does not care about money or record sales, he is all about artistic integrity and the message behind the music.

[dumassispumanti]

Make it your best interest to not approach me like that. If you think 22k is great, then that's fine. I'll make sure to note next time some rapper that drops a mixtape/album nationally does less than 25k first week... I'll ask if that's good for them or not...

Approach you like what? That felt like a veiled threat, which we know are always useless on the net so I'll assume it wasn't. I can't stand Jim Jones, he's a Jay-Z stalker hence this album title. However, all this hating on the rap hustle, especially the indy hustle is counterproductive.

[grock2727]

i read throught the whole first page and not ONE of you fukks mentioned if the shiit was any good..
:thumbsdow
wtf..
IS THE SHIIT GOOD or NOT..
who gives a fukk about what it sold

Wrong thread homie, you obviously missed the title.