View Full Version : Eminem Would Destroy Jay z Let Alone Nas in a Battle
Big Herb
02-19-08, 09:02 AM
em is by far the best lyricist out there ,imo jay would be scared to go against eminem and i really dont think nas is even half as good as em ,
rap battle
em>>>>>>>>>>> nas& jay
Roxx the King
02-19-08, 09:04 AM
i was going to cosign until i saw how you spelled "lyricist"
jayshiggs
02-19-08, 09:05 AM
i was going to cosign until i saw how you spelled "lyricist"
:laugh:
What has Em put out recently, damn ya'll jock ride duke to death?
So Mr. 'Ass Like That'.....pause, is supposed to be so lyrical and makin' these dumb ass singles
I don't think I will ever get the hype of Eminem ( :dry: I don't wanna state the obvious)
Dude is either killin' his mom or killin' Kim in front of Haile, no disresepect to his fam, but damn
roc_com
02-19-08, 09:11 AM
i was going to cosign until i saw how you spelled "lyricist"
:laugh:
kanethegreat
02-19-08, 09:12 AM
em is by far the best lyricist out there ,imo jay would be scared to go against eminem and i really dont think nas is even half as good as em ,
rap battle
em>>>>>>>>>>> nas& jay
I disagree. Em is nice, but dude got ate up by Ja Rule of all people. He's known for destroying helpless pop stars, and F grade rappers like Benzino and Fred Durst
roc_com
02-19-08, 09:12 AM
What has Em put out recently, damn ya'll jock ride duke to death?
So Mr. 'Ass Like That'.....pause, is supposed to be so lyrical and makin' these dumb ass singles
I don't think I will ever get the hype of Eminem ( :dry: I don't wanna state the obvious)
Dude is either killin' his mom or killin' Kim in front of Haile, no disresepect to his fam, but damn
I guess redman,nas jay-z,fat joe all have no clue about rating artists.
i pray for the day that someone who spits with the calliber that nas and jay does /
opens up his jaw to say something or rattle my name off /
or rattle the first thing from the top of his brain off /
so i can blow the ****in dust off of this chainsaw /
and give him the surgery that he came for
:ohmy:
Roxx the King
02-19-08, 09:24 AM
seriously, stop kidding yourselves. all of your favorite rappers dont want it with eminem
jayshiggs
02-19-08, 09:27 AM
seriously, stop kidding yourselves. all of your favorite rappers dont want it with eminem
Em has lost a battle to Evidence but he can beat Nas or Jay? Bytch please . . .
I guess redman,nas jay-z,fat joe all have no clue about rating artists.
I don't even get why they like him so much
:huh: what? Cuz I like Jay-Z and Nas, I'm supposed to like every rapper they like?
I don't think he's wack, but he's more overrated than Pac
TRUESTORY212
02-19-08, 10:08 AM
Em has lost a battle to Evidence but he can beat Nas or Jay? Bytch please . . .
HAHA WORD HE EVEN LOST TO EVERLAST BUT HE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY JAY OR NAS? THIS SITE KILLS ME FATJOES CATALOG SH1TS ON EMINEMS NOW WATCH THE NERDS GET MAD
Keys N Bass
02-19-08, 10:43 AM
this thread's about 8 years past it's sell by date
foolishness..
coogi mane
02-19-08, 10:46 AM
:blink::thumbsdow
dtjones
02-19-08, 10:46 AM
I'd put my money on Eminem overall but if I had to choose between Jay-Z or Nas going against him, I'd put my money on Jay-Z even though i think Nas is the GOAT & beat Jay-Z.
Roxx the King
02-19-08, 11:10 AM
HAHA WORD HE EVEN LOST TO EVERLAST BUT HE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY JAY OR NAS? THIS SITE KILLS ME FATJOES CATALOG SH1TS ON EMINEMS NOW WATCH THE NERDS GET MAD
fat joe shouldnt be in a room of MCs close enought to skill to battle eminem
TRUESTORY212
02-19-08, 11:19 AM
fat joe shouldnt be in a room of MCs close enought to skill to battle eminem
WHY? BECAUSE AN EMINEM FAN THINKS SO? HAHA YEAH OK BUDDY
Freekey Zeekey
02-19-08, 11:26 AM
Eminem is known for dissing NON Rappers like Benzino and ICP. Even with Benzino it was close cause 'Zino came with some hard shiit. Ja Rule destroyed him on that freestyle and Em couldn't come with a halfway decent response. Face it, he's only good for dissing popstars like N'sync and Christina. He's overrated as fuuck when it comes to battling
RandyBodek
02-19-08, 11:28 AM
Eminem is known for dissing NON Rappers like Benzino and ICP. Even with Benzino it was close cause 'Zino came with some hard shiit. Ja Rule destroyed him on that freestyle and Em couldn't come with a halfway decent response. Face it, he's only good for dissing popstars like N'sync and Christina. He's overrated as fuuck when it comes to battling
he bodied canibus.
OxyContin
02-19-08, 11:31 AM
i pray for the day that someone who spits with the calliber that nas and jay does /
opens up his jaw to say something or rattle my name off /
or rattle the first thing from the top of his brain off /
so i can blow the ****in dust off of this chainsaw /
and give him the surgery that he came for
:ohmy:
I've always held Em is high regards, he's one of the reasons why I KEPT listening to rap after 2003..
I don't listen to rap anymore, the last joint I've played is the new Ludacris joint produced by Clinton Sparks - that track is fuking sick - that beat is fuking sick.
That's why I like Luda, he's always 10 steps ahead of people in the game
Eminem got the ultimate pat in the back from one of the greatest lyricist when Nas rapped "And Eminem Murdered you on your own sh!t"...
That line was vicious. "Eminem MURDERED YOU, ON YOUR OWN SH!T"
I wonder how Eminem felt after he heard that line...I wonder how Jay felt by putting Em's picture in the Black Album's cover...
ptahblade07
02-19-08, 11:31 AM
em has no major wins under his belt and he took a blow from ja rule that he never recovered from "em you said ya mothers crack head and kim is a known slut, so what halie go be when she grows up" moments later em recording toy soldier tryin to squash it lol and this is the dude you say will eat jay or nas? the one who recorded that wack ass fack song? that garbage ass can i b1tch song? are you serious...
jay nas and whoever aint afraid to battle em they afraid to conflict with his fanbase because they figure that his fanbase is the majority of the rap fans who are actually still buying records. when you seein anyone giving him props its due to them tryin to stay at peace with his fanbase. when you see someone takin one of those garbage ass beats same reason....dont get it twisted
ptahblade07
02-19-08, 11:33 AM
he bodied canibus.
how with that terrible ass can 1 ***** track are you serious
canibus never responded he was across seas somewhere fightin a war he had no voice they never really went toe to toe...
RandyBodek
02-19-08, 11:35 AM
how with that terrible ass can 1 ***** track are you serious
canibus never responded he was across seas somewhere fightin a war he had no voice they never really went toe to toe...
he got bodied
Gentility
02-19-08, 11:35 AM
how with that terrible ass can 1 ***** track are you serious
canibus never responded he was across seas somewhere fightin a war he had no voice they never really went toe to toe...for real?
smh@ this coward Eminem for attacking a war veteran while he's still on the battle field.
he bodied canibus.
Both Canibus' and Eminem's diss tracks in that battle was the worst diss songs I ever heard :dry:
'Can-A-B*tch' is exact reason why I believe Em is an overrated battler, but I see why white boys like em'
His Ja Rule disses were weak (along ith D-12), that was all Fifty
RandyBodek
02-19-08, 11:38 AM
Both Canibus' and Eminem's diss tracks in that battle was the worst diss songs I ever heard :dry:
'Can-A-B*tch' is exact reason why I believe Em is an overrated battler, but I see why white boys like em'
His Ja Rule disses were weak (along ith D-12), that was all Fifty
canibus got bodied.
Freekey Zeekey
02-19-08, 11:38 AM
how with that terrible ass can 1 ***** track are you serious
canibus never responded he was across seas somewhere fightin a war he had no voice they never really went toe to toe...
seriously, it was a funny track, but bodied? shiit was like a cartoon or something.
ptahblade07
02-19-08, 11:40 AM
he got bodied
you only get bodied when you have a chance to respond and its wack or when the diss is so incredible it does so much damage that you cant recover from....can i b1tch def didnt do that that was one of the worst diss records ive ever heard in my damn life the beat sounded like it was made on a fisher price my first drum machine,lyrically what the hell was he talking about runnin him over in a car or whatever that sh1t was stupid then the hook cmon and this is the best out? go back and pop in takover,ether,no vasaline,bridge is over,300 bars, thats how you diss somebody....
Vincenzo_Corleone
02-19-08, 11:44 AM
Em has lost a battle to Evidence but he can beat Nas or Jay? Bytch please . . .
Forget Evidence, Em didn't even manage to beat JA - as someone said, that was all 50. Ja clowned the shyt out of Eminem.
'Ayo Em, what's the Du-rag for?'
TRUESTORY212
02-19-08, 11:47 AM
Forget Evidence, Em didn't even manage to beat JA - as someone said, that was all 50. Ja clowned the shyt out of Eminem.
'Ayo Em, what's the Du-rag for?'
HAHA TRUESTORY SON AND WHO SAID HE CRUSHED CANIBUS? YOU ARE A TRUE EM FAN IF YOU THINK THAT GARBAGE IS A DISS SONG
Endiphrint
02-19-08, 11:51 AM
Eminem is known for dissing NON Rappers like Benzino and ICP. Even with Benzino it was close cause 'Zino came with some hard shiit. Ja Rule destroyed him on that freestyle and Em couldn't come with a halfway decent response. Face it, he's only good for dissing popstars like N'sync and Christina. He's overrated as fuuck when it comes to battling
That's the problem I always had with Em. When he was dope, he wasted his talent on bull chit. Honestly I should have seen it coming, but I fell asleep. I got caught up in the hype for a second. I wonder sometimes thinking back, did Benzino and the Sauce have a point? I only disregarded them because it was obvious what Benzino's intentions were, but a valid point is a valid point regardless of the source.(no pun intended)
There was a time when I would put Em's name amongst the Greats, but when I consider his catalogue, and subject matter, and really sit down and examine it all, I come to the conclusion that it's inappropriate to place him with insightful artists such as Nas, KRS, or Treach. He didnt have the swag of Jay, Slick Rick, Meth, or Red. When he linked up with 50, he still didnt have the credibility to talk the kind of chit he started talkin, so I could never put him in the same circles as Face, M.O.P., or Eiht. As a producer, he had a signature sound, but it dont move me like Just Blaze, Primo, or Alchemist. So my question is why the hype over this dude? Skin tone and crossover appeal.
Initially I digged him, but later on MTV force-fed him to the public. His subject matter consisted of his mother, ex-wife, daughter, drug use, shock talk, and his fellow TRL competitors. As much as he tried to seperate himself from Britney, Christina, and Justin, the more I felt he was within and among them. He's one of their own. I think Christina Aguillera did a better job of seperating herself from the pack then he did.
Nowadays, it's all blurred. Justin or Usher, nobody sees a difference since Timberland co-signed it. Same with Em. Em signing 50 benefited him, as much as it benefited 50. 50 got the TRL support, Em got the credibility he was lacking. Now all of sudden he's talking about guns and what not. Why was he silent when Suge was clowning Dre'? He aint say a word. He had plenty to say on Fred Durst, Britney, and other various non-threatning types. He's a fraud. Granted a talented fraud, but nonetheless a fraud.
B Jolly
02-19-08, 11:57 AM
Everlast bodied Eminem
Ja Rule bodied Eminem
Benzino bodied Eminem
Slim Shady can't battle
And once it happens
He starts coppin pleas
Like Ja Rule on 106 and Park
Big Herb
02-20-08, 06:47 AM
what a fool ^
Swagger
02-20-08, 06:50 AM
eminem is one of the only top emcees that built himself off battle rapping, he's in his element
eseenee
02-20-08, 07:02 AM
I love the texture of my ballsack.
Sunzoo aka LC
02-20-08, 07:11 AM
Dude is either killin' his mom or killin' Kim in front of Haile, no disresepect to his fam, but damn
if you really feel like you can break his entire catalog down to "killing mom and kim in front of halie" then i see why you don't get him....cuz you never really listened to his tracks...i mean if you going to form an opinion, it might as well be an informed one
that kind of content the kim/mom/halie sh1t is only about 5-10% of his entire catalog, but according to haters, thats all he talks about
I disagree. Em is nice, but dude got ate up by Ja Rule of all people. He's known for destroying helpless pop stars, and F grade rappers like Benzino and Fred Durst
i don't see how he got ate up by just, just because one of ja's hottest lines happened to be aimed at em...most people, who have this opinion, didn't even hear em's official responses as they weren't really on wax, the were unreleased and on mixtapes...if you can listen to "I'm gone" and still act as if em didn't spit back hard at dude, then i don't know what to tell you
but then again, most people, even a lot of "em fans" don't know or talk about "i'm gone" or any of the other tracks were em actually went at ja himself, lyrically, "i'm gone" > ja picking on little girls (still a hot line tho)
also...for em to go after the kind of competition that he deserves, he'd actually have to START a beef with somebody, he even says this on "monkey see monkey do", he wishes somebody who does have some skill will come at him so he can have something to get excited about
the people he went at, all said something about him first save for the boy band sh1t, half of these emcees don't wanna go at em...cuz not only is he skilled, he also has a sh1tload of fans that will write you off in a heartbeat for dissing their savior
everlast, cage and evidence are the only actual emcees that went at em directly, and none of them are in the public eye
Sunzoo aka LC
02-20-08, 07:14 AM
Now all of sudden he's talking about guns and what not. Why was he silent when Suge was clowning Dre'? He aint say a word. He had plenty to say on Fred Durst, Britney, and other various non-threatning types. He's a fraud. Granted a talented fraud, but nonetheless a fraud.
em has always had gun talk in his music, and he did diss suge, dre told him to stay out of it, told him to mind his business because he knows what kinda dude suge is so em shut the fucck up
majority of your post is on point, em is not top 10, skill wise he's the sh1t, but his content and catalog don't match his talent capacity just yet...he's gonna need a real classic to make the leap into a legit top 10, might not ever....but i wouldn't count him out just yet
jay and nas are on entirely different levels from em...he's what i like to call a "2nd tier" legend, jay and nas are top 5, em ain't even cracked a legit top 10 just yet
Big Herb
02-20-08, 07:23 AM
em has always had gun talk in his music, and he did diss suge, dre told him to stay out of it, told him to mind his business because he knows what kinda dude suge is so em shut the fucck up
majority of your post is on point, em is not top 10, skill wise he's the sh1t, but his content and catalog don't match his talent capacity just yet...he's gonna need a real classic to make the leap into a legit top 10, might not ever....but i wouldn't count him out just yet
jay and nas are on entirely different levels from em...he's what i like to call a "2nd tier" legend, jay and nas are top 5, em ain't even cracked a legit top 10 just yet
TRUE
EM SAID TO DRE HE WANTED TO KILL SUGE ON WAX ,BUT DRE SAID TO KEEP OUT OF IT
EM PISTOL WHIP THAT DUDE :)
Sunzoo aka LC
02-20-08, 07:34 AM
TRUE
EM SAID TO DRE HE WANTED TO KILL SUGE ON WAX ,BUT DRE SAID TO KEEP OUT OF IT
EM PISTOL WHIP THAT DUDE :)
if em is paranoid now...da fucck you think he would be with suge on his ass? em got shooters/peoples...but thats a lose/lose situation, dre was right, suge is broke, lost his company, they rich, they win
even proof was shook of suge in vegas, he was asking proof to step outside the casino and he looked at that n1gga and said "so you can do me like pac? i'm good" lol
Ted dibiasi
02-20-08, 07:53 AM
I don't even get why they like him so much
:huh: what? Cuz I like Jay-Z and Nas, I'm supposed to like every rapper they like?
I don't think he's wack, but he's more overrated than Pac
:yes:
if you really feel like you can break his entire catalog down to "killing mom and kim in front of halie" then i see why you don't get him....cuz you never really listened to his tracks...i mean if you going to form an opinion, it might as well be an informed one
that kind of content the kim/mom/halie sh1t is only about 5-10% of his entire catalog, but according to haters, thats all he talks about
I don't hate him, I don't think I will ever buy one of his albums or support him in any capacity after his disrespect to Will Smith just because he's positive and hurt his feelin's wit a Grammy speech :dry: b*tch ass
What Eminem album should I listen to, to maybe get the hype?
Hell I kinda get the hype of Joe Buddens
Sunzoo aka LC
02-20-08, 08:18 AM
I don't hate him, I don't think I will ever buy one of his albums or support him in any capacity after his disrespect to Will Smith just because he's positive and hurt his feelin's wit a Grammy speech :dry: b*tch ass
What Eminem album should I listen to, to maybe get the hype?
Hell I kinda get the hype of Joe Buddens
him going at will, was more about dre than anything i believe, the gangsta rap is dead ish...but i can feel you on that, i'll sh1t on you is still hilarious and ill regardless
uhhhh...as far as albums, i'd say his most listenable would be the eminem show, it's far less cartooney than MMLP, MMLP is lyrically/creatively superior, but TES has much more grounded content
it's pretty minimal on the corniness (stay away from songs like my dads gone crazy, even if the 3rd verse is one of is best), there are some real topics on the album, outside of the usual hailie/kim/mom subject
TES is the best balence between em the artist and marshall mathers the person, and lyrically it's still above par, not too many love the production, but most people i know enjoy the album
but yea, like i was saying...his catalog don't match his talent capacity, just based on that, he's not in jay or nas' league and prolly never will be, to get into em...you'd be better off just getting his hardest tracks individually, it's a lot of guest spots and underground sh1t...he's got a large volume of good to great songs, they just aren't crammed together on one album of great material
i think MMLP and TES are borderline classics...but nothing the level of illmatic or RD/blueprint, he needs that, to solidify himself as a top 10 candidate for me, but even then man...he ain't for everybody
eseenee
02-20-08, 08:23 AM
I love the texture of my ballsack.
so smooth in places yet so wrinkly in others. It really is fascinating.
...he ain't for everybody
I can accept that, I'm used to that corny, cartoonish Eminem, which got old as I began to get older
I might peep The Eminem Show on imeem or something though
TORNATIC!!
02-20-08, 01:38 PM
I respect Em as an mc but I remember how bent out of shape he got with Ja Rule's now infamous lines:
"Em you claim your mothers a crack head and Kim's a known slut so what's Hailie gonna be when she grows up??
On the response he didn't even rap he just screamed and shouted and let his "homies" rap. He sounded hurt. What ya think Nas and Jay in their prime would do??
TORNATIC!!
02-20-08, 01:46 PM
he bodied canibus.
He technically only won that battle with Canibus because Bis didn't come with a response to "Can-i-*****".
Insane Sony
02-20-08, 01:47 PM
HAHA WORD HE EVEN LOST TO EVERLAST BUT HE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY JAY OR NAS? THIS SITE KILLS ME FATJOES CATALOG SH1TS ON EMINEMS NOW WATCH THE NERDS GET MAD
He lost to everlast??
no.
He already killed jayz on his own shyt?
yes
Nas Lost
Yes, smarten up nas.
fat joes catolog sh1ts on eminem's
No.
TRUESTORY212 Lies, B1tches Lie
Numbers dont!
go check soundscan u lil ghetto boy
gimmeabuck
02-20-08, 01:52 PM
I respect Em as an mc but I remember how bent out of shape he got with Ja Rule's now infamous lines:
"Em you claim your mothers a crack head and Kim's a known slut so what's Hailie gonna be when she grows up??
On the response he didn't even rap he just screamed and shouted and let his "homies" rap. He sounded hurt. What ya think Nas and Jay in their prime would do??
Cuz it was about his daughter not him. If you listen to the songs where he really addressed Ja and U still say he lost, then you need to stop listenin to music period. He just didn't put the effort into Ja that he put into Zino and others when he made diss tracks just for them. He didn't even respond to Evidence, cuz noone knows who dude is. How can u lose a battle you don't participate in?
To the cat sayin Everlast beat Em in that battle, seek help:rolleyes:
All that being said, there is no way in hell Em could fukk with Jay or Nas in a battle.:thumbsdow
This is the same Em that got completely murderd by Ja he changed his life??!!! LMAO!!! Em is trash....Nas would completely disect him & hurt his feelings more than Ja...Jay would son the shyt outta the white boy.
Eminem was a nice rapper for his time, good skill set. Alot of his material has zero replay value, and comes off very corny. Like I can't picture none of my niiggas bumping Eminem in a whip, or even my hip hop head friends, never really fuucked with Eminem. It was like he was trying too hard. Not saying he didn't have skills, but he's not elite.
Jay-Z and Nas would manslaughter Eminem
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