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LiveFromNewYork718
02-11-08, 11:34 PM
how is AZ not top 5 on everybody list, or at least top 10? it goes to show that skills aint everything, you gotta have skills AND commercial success in order to get respect even from the people who supposedly know hiphop and are 'true hiphop headz'. az is better than biggie and has had a longer career than biggie, how biggie considered a goat but homie aint? mind bogglin b. nas, hov, cube and pac is like the only nigs i couldnt put him in front of all time. maybe ll too, maybe.

strictlystreet
02-11-08, 11:36 PM
biggie was kicking ass in that monopoly game?

LiveFromNewYork718
02-11-08, 11:37 PM
biggie was kicking ass in that monopoly game?

hahaa, yeah, he was takin them nigs paper.

NYSpic
02-11-08, 11:40 PM
cause its a popularity contest

oneovdabestyet
02-11-08, 11:40 PM
ive been wondering for 12 years why biggie is praised so high period.

No Homo
02-11-08, 11:44 PM
ive been wondering for 12 years why biggie is praised so high period.

SouthernHipHopHead
02-11-08, 11:46 PM
Stupid question Az doesn't have any of the making of a legend there is no mystique around him. Biggie created a top 10 hip hop album all time, was apart of the the most documented feuds in music history, he was murdered at the height of his career not yet even reaching his potential.

Impact is huge in music and AZ really hasn't had any. He has some good albums but nothing I would consider in the same league as Ready To Die. He's not built for the discussion of greatest of all time he'll always be a guy on the most underrated list.

LiveFromNewYork718
02-11-08, 11:46 PM
ive been wondering for 12 years why biggie is praised so high period.

you aint alone brotha. the middle to end of 'i got a story to tell' is the only time biggie really ever made me go crazy and rewind madd times, all the people i consider greats make me react like that at least 5 times every album. he overrated son.

No Homo
02-11-08, 11:48 PM
all the people i consider greats make me react like that at least 5 times every album. he overrated son.

lol word..

me and u gotta be like the only bk dudes who feel like this fam..

i get the :dry: face anytime i say anything negative about biggie

LiveFromNewYork718
02-11-08, 11:49 PM
Stupid question Az doesn't have any of the making of a legend there is no mystique around him. Biggie created a top 10 hip hop album all time, was apart of the the most documented feuds in music history, he was murdered at the height of his career not yet even reaching his potential.

Impact is huge in music and AZ really hasn't had any. He has some good albums but nothing I would consider in the same league as Ready To Die. He's not built for the discussion of greatest of all time he'll always be a guy on the most underrated list.

listen to what you sayin. impact, popularity, hits, etc... maybe its me but i dont see what any of that sh*t gotta do wit cha spit game. skills and longevity is what i go off, i dont realy care about impact and all that too much. 50 cent had a huge impact and got a classic album too, so what, he better than homie too? i aint buyin that.

ptahblade07
02-11-08, 11:50 PM
cause biggie got classics and az dont....

next question....

Ejay614
02-11-08, 11:51 PM
Ready to Die

Sunzoo aka LC
02-11-08, 11:54 PM
let me break it down real quick...i don't wanna seem biased or like i'm hating on sosa, cuz i'm not

but the bottom line is, AZ has no personality...he's nas, with even less charisma, nothing about his voice/flow or delivery make him stand out, lyrically he's ahead of the curve, arguably top 10 lyricist, but thats not enough to stand out in the minds of your average hip hop head

biggie...as a lyricist was good, not great, what he had tho was one of the most powerful and crisp deliveries in hip hop history, lyrically in 96, (my opinion of course) jay was already a better overall rapper/lyricist than big...but he didn't get the attention, because the n1ggas delivery and cadence were the weakest part of his game...as he has improved that aspect of his skillset, his stock and rank has risen, but at the time, rhyming next to big, made him sound like a girl lol

az, sounds exactly like he did on sugar hill..nothing wrong with that, but theres noting exactly exciting about it either, and his discography doesn't match up to him being anywhere near top 5, he's got a classic..and a good album, the rest with me as a fan are on the fence and really uneventful

i'd rather just listen to nas (lyrically tho...especially now, AZ > ESCO), his lack of charisma isn't as evident because his subject matter is less stagnant

biggie simply is a better overall MIC CONTROLLER than az ever will be...just based off his presence

RandyBodek
02-11-08, 11:54 PM
biggie had hits to go with skills, thats how. talent will earn you respect, talent + hit records will earn you respect, admiration and praise, everything you need to be a great. talent aint everything, if that were the case pharoah monch and royce the 5'9 would be the goats. you gotta have hits and appeal and everything in between, you need the total package, az just has talent.

SouthernHipHopHead
02-11-08, 11:58 PM
listen to what you sayin. impact, popularity, hits, etc... maybe its me but i dont see what any of that sh*t gotta do wit cha spit game. skills and longevity is what i go off, i dont realy care about impact and all that too much. 50 cent had a huge impact and got a classic album too, so what, he better than homie too? i aint buyin that.


It has everything to do with being a legend and being considered one of the greatest of all time. Az isn't even better than guys like Jay-z and Nas. I would never put him in the same category as Biggie and Pac. Those dudes are legends and a decade later their music lives on and still moves people. Az never did that back then and he damn sure hasn't done it now. Ready To Die is better than any Az album that settles it right there no argument.

LiveFromNewYork718
02-12-08, 12:01 AM
It has everything to do with being a legend and being considered one of the greatest of all time. Az isn't even better than guys like Jay-z and Nas. I would never put him in the same category as Biggie and Pac. Those dudes are legends and a decade later their music lives on and still moves people. Az never did that back then and he damn sure hasn't done it now. Ready To Die is better than any Az album that settles it right there no argument.

ready to die is better than doe or die but its not like biggie is spittin better on ready to die than az is spittin on doe or die so really, what do that matter? puff daddys no way out album is better than any az album too, is puffy better than az? yall sayin alot but you aint really sayin nothin.

yseJ
02-12-08, 12:02 AM
biggie is top 5
az is (maybe) top 20, prolly not even that

.PK5
02-12-08, 12:04 AM
both great artists..and yeah AZ is criminally underrated

not sure how that relates to BiG though.

SouthernHipHopHead
02-12-08, 12:07 AM
ready to die is better than doe or die but its not like biggie is spittin better on ready to die than az is spittin on doe or die so really, what do that matter? puff daddys no way out album is better than any az album too, is puffy better than az? yall sayin alot but you aint really sayin nothin.


Your logic is f.ucked up my friend. Don't try to tear down big homie's legacy to build up somebody else. Az is underrated but no way is he in the discussion of the 10 greatest ever to bless the mic. He wasn't in a high demand in the 90s and he's not now. The material he made in the 90s couldn't stand up to Bigs and the stuff he putting out now can't either. Few can stand up to what Big was on the mic...more than the skills just his voice alone cannot be replaced. When he spit people listened and felt every single bar. They know every single word to his joints for a reason. Biggie was incredible the way he did his music.

LukeCage888
02-12-08, 12:55 AM
Your logic is f.ucked up my friend. Don't try to tear down big homie's legacy to build up somebody else. Az is underrated but no way is he in the discussion of the 10 greatest ever to bless the mic. He wasn't in a high demand in the 90s and he's not now. The material he made in the 90s couldn't stand up to Bigs and the stuff he putting out now can't either. Few can stand up to what Big was on the mic...more than the skills just his voice alone cannot be replaced. When he spit people listened and felt every single bar. They know every single word to his joints for a reason. Biggie was incredible the way he did his music.

lol...you just paraphrase what you read in magazines. Biggie was slightly above average.

SouthernHipHopHead
02-12-08, 01:03 AM
lol...you just paraphrase what you read in magazines. Biggie was slightly above average.


I grew up on his music i don't have to quote magazines this is what I believe. You old bitter negros that hated Biggie and Pac can't change that. Their music will live on forever. :yes:

Yoda3542
02-12-08, 04:05 AM
Biggie did all kinds of songs, songs where he was screaming, laid back, intense, joints for the honies

and he did them all well, you might argue AZ's absolute best lyrical songs were better than Big's, but he doesn't have the club joints

you could even claim Doe Or Die is better than Big's albums

AZ never had a classic battle either

Big out-freestyled 2Pac live on stage

and to be honest, Pac hit a whole other level after Biggie came out, he lit a fire under Pac's ass, motivated him to make the records to be the greatest ever

AZ's got sick lyrics, but he can never reach that kind of level now, unless he were to flip on Nas and completely expose him even further, but that's not his style anyway

Cantgetright
02-12-08, 11:27 AM
AZ being compared to BIG is a disgrace to BIG.
BIG had the presence like no other.
How many dudes you know that wanted to be like AZ or ever made the statement "man, AZ was the best to ever do it"?

i had more fun putting AZ cds in the microwave than listening to him

Swagger
02-12-08, 01:42 PM
biggie smalls is the illest

IRONMAN26
02-12-08, 01:51 PM
AZ is in my top ten of all-time.:yes::smoker:

LukeCage888
02-12-08, 08:23 PM
I grew up on his music i don't have to quote magazines this is what I believe. You old bitter negros that hated Biggie and Pac can't change that. Their music will live on forever. :yes:

lol...old and bitter? Nygga Biggie and Pac were hot when I was in high school. That's my era. They're just overrated to me.