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Blackman28
01-08-08, 10:29 PM
smh at thug image...what u done in the streets? if pac wuz a b1tch to u i want sum credentials....east coast raised Pac wuz a lame..sum years in the Bay changed all that and he became a real wild nikka,but stil wit the intelligence...Pac got better and better wit each album,its not even questionable...u realize the greatness of 7th day theory? If u think nas is deep u a corny nikka straight up...Pac had that stret game u cant learn from just readin books...I laugh at u lil smug f*ggots in luv wit ya lil kufis on writin out lies...Nas will never have the street luv Pac had,the classic songs,the intelligence...he still alive but only cuz Pac wuznt around to drive him to suicide...Nas aint seein Pac and never will...most u nikkas never heard sh1t from Pac fa real.

LOL...I love getting you guys emotional. When did I call him a *****? LOL...the thug image was just that...an image. This nicca Pac wasn't no punk, but he wasn't no gangsta or thug neither. See that's what you Pac stans don't get or understand. You're confusing a thug/gangsta with a tough guy. He said it best himself that he never had a (jail) record until he made a record. Pac only did sh1t 'cause he felt he had to live the life he was rapping about. But that wasn't him moron...he wasn't no Bishop. And you see the end result...him getting shot up not once but twice on BOTH coasts...LOL. I don't give a fluck about anybody else's opinion on this...I'm just basing this on whose discography I would rather listen to. The only Pac album I felt and can listen to the whole way through loving every song is Makaveli. But Nas was my favorite when Pac was alive and he's my favorite now.

RandyBodek
01-08-08, 10:38 PM
Nas is better mc
2pac was a better song maker

with nas you appreciate his skills more, with 2pac you can feel him more because he put so much emotion behind what he was sayin. it can go either one dependin on what you look for in a rapper, but me i'm more with the ill spittin so I gotta say Nas wins.

The Real
01-08-08, 10:48 PM
Pound for pound lyrically I'd definitely take Nas, but Pac just had that raw emotion that nobody else can touch. I really don't think Nas gets the respect he deserves so I picked him. When people say s*** like hip-hop died when Pac and B.I.G died I'm just like :thumbsdow because in my opinion that's blatantly disrespectful to the career of Nasir Jones whose one of the best to ever grace the mic.

Sunzoo aka LC
01-08-08, 10:53 PM
but he wasn't no gangsta or thug neither. See that's what you Pac stans don't get or understand. You're confusing a thug/gangsta with a tough guy. He said it best himself that he never had a (jail) record until he made a record. Pac only did sh1t 'cause he felt he had to live the life he was rapping about. But that wasn't him moron...he wasn't no Bishop.

pac said numerous times that he wasnt a gangsta, that his record persona was HIM, just amplified times 10

you saying that pac shot those two cops (before you go trying to educate me yes i know they were off duty) for harrasing a black motorist just so he could keep his thug image in tact? what rapper do you know that would get out of his ride and go to bat for somebody he aint know? thats image or is that 2pac shakur, the son of a militant panther, raised by people who made the FBI's most wanted list

that wasnt for no image...ask bumpy knuckles (by far one of the realist n1ggas to ever grab a mic), ask treach, as shock g if pac wasnt a crazy n1gga before he got a deal...hell nah he wasnt a mafioso don and he admitted it, but everybody that knew him before the fame confirmed that he had temper, he was a hot head, he tried to fight whole clubs of n1ggas before he ever had and kind of fame, but according to revisionists, pac didnt get "gangsta" til he went to death row, when in reality that time in his life was him getting in the least amount of trouble

Jzzo357
01-08-08, 10:59 PM
#1 vs. #2
But even Nas will tell you Pac was the best


:yes: if they artists themselves are saying it why cant these stans believe it

D-wash
01-08-08, 11:03 PM
Nas...

boombche_stum
01-08-08, 11:06 PM
Pac>>>>>

MNFBackwordzz
01-08-08, 11:08 PM
lol...2pawk

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa167/MNFBackwordz/pacs.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa167/MNFBackwordz/pac.gif

plus gnause cried..
they are both herbs Imo

~*:: AkaDemiK ::*~
01-08-08, 11:08 PM
nas, just look at the history of the music, pac was a hip hop martyr great person..but lets look besides all the politics, study the songs...lyric for lyric....nasir jones

Blackman28
01-08-08, 11:10 PM
I never heard anybody calling Pac the best until AFTER he died...hmmm...

NotSoft
01-08-08, 11:13 PM
[QUOTE=Blackman28;1058855688]but he wasn't no gangsta or thug neither. See that's what you Pac stans don't get or understand. You're confusing a thug/gangsta with a tough guy. He said it best himself that he never had a (jail) record until he made a record. Pac only did sh1t 'cause he felt he had to live the life he was rapping about. But that wasn't him moron...he wasn't no Bishop. And /QUOTE]
pac said numerous times that he wasnt a gangsta, that his record persona was HIM, just amplified times 10
you saying that pac shot those two cops (before you go trying to educate me yes i know they were off duty) for harrasing a black motorist just so he could keep his thug image in tact? what rapper do you know that would get out of his ride and go to bat for somebody he aint know? thats image or is that 2pac shakur, the son of a militant panther, raised by people who made the FBI's most wanted list
that wasnt for no image...ask bumpy knuckles (by far one of the realist n1ggas to ever grab a mic), ask treach, as shock g if pac wasnt a crazy n1gga before he got a deal...hell nah he wasnt a mafioso don and he admitted it, but everybody that knew him before the fame confirmed that he had temper, he was a hot head, he tried to fight whole clubs of n1ggas before he ever had and kind of fame, but according to revisionists, pac didnt get "gangsta" til he went to death row, when in reality that time in his life was him getting in the least amount of trouble




they dont know,Pac wuznt doin sh1t but dissin nikkas on deathrow...he did way more reckless sh1t b4 that bcuz of the temper or nikkas wuz testin em,if u think anybody goes to jail and court constantly and basically stays broke bcuz of all the lawsuits to keep a "image",u gotta be a dumbazz...Pac woulda went back to jail had he not died for violatin probation probaly...as much as Pac hated jail do u really believe he would risk goin back for YEARS to keep a image up to beat dude up in Vegas? Nikkas all across america got anger problems and self control problems.

Blackman28
01-08-08, 11:27 PM
LOL @ your comments...like I said, Pac wasn't no punk...nobody is saying that. He had heart...but at the end of the day...that thug/gangsta image was fake. It wasn't real. Pac wasn't doing dirt on the streets...he was getting into fisf fights with guys. Him shooting those off duty cops in Atlanta, where I live by the way, was more of him being a revolutionary than a gangsta by trying to look out for black people getting harassed by the police. Hell Pac shot his own testicle when he was trying to pull out his gun when he got shot in NY...dudes were clowning him about that...was that gangsta? Trying to shoot and shooting yourself? But people think that he was Bishop, the crazy thug from Juice, and he wasn't that. But that's the image that rappers have been trying to duplicate since Pac's death...the whole "I don't give a f*ck and I'm keepin' it real" image. That's why I say his image is greater than his lyrics 'cause his lyrics ain't really all that. Pac wasn't wack but he ain't no Kool G. Rap or Rakim. Pac ain't even in my top 10.

LukeCage888
01-08-08, 11:29 PM
Pac by far, you could even argue that he was the better lyricist

:laugh:...no.

...and i wish you would try to compare godson or stillmatic to either of pac's 3 classics, fucck outta here

Pac has 0 classics.

LukeCage888
01-08-08, 11:32 PM
The only Pac album that I REALLY liked was Makaveli.

c/s...that's why Pac is overrated as fukk to me. He has great songs. He doesn't have great albums.

Makaveli is the only joint that goes hard pretty much all the way through to me, and even that's got two songs I skip, "Just Like Daddy" and "Toss It Up."

Blackman28
01-08-08, 11:32 PM
The only classic Pac has to me is Makaveli. That album is dope from start to finish and Pac was just in a whole 'nother zone on this album. It's the REAL black album...no promotion and bumped heavy on the east coast. All Eyes on Me has almost a disc's worth of fillers...LAD was better than AEOM and I don't consider LAD a classic. Me Against the World is solid but I can't listen to EVERY song on that album...some of the songs like Temptation, Dear Mama, and So Many Tears are dope.

LukeCage888
01-08-08, 11:36 PM
but he wasn't no gangsta or thug neither. See that's what you Pac stans don't get or understand. You're confusing a thug/gangsta with a tough guy. He said it best himself that he never had a (jail) record until he made a record. Pac only did sh1t 'cause he felt he had to live the life he was rapping about. But that wasn't him moron...he wasn't no Bishop. And /QUOTE]
pac said numerous times that he wasnt a gangsta, that his record persona was HIM, just amplified times 10
you saying that pac shot those two cops (before you go trying to educate me yes i know they were off duty) for harrasing a black motorist just so he could keep his thug image in tact? what rapper do you know that would get out of his ride and go to bat for somebody he aint know? thats image or is that 2pac shakur, the son of a militant panther, raised by people who made the FBI's most wanted list
that wasnt for no image...ask bumpy knuckles (by far one of the realist n1ggas to ever grab a mic), ask treach, as shock g if pac wasnt a crazy n1gga before he got a deal...hell nah he wasnt a mafioso don and he admitted it, but everybody that knew him before the fame confirmed that he had temper, he was a hot head, he tried to fight whole clubs of n1ggas before he ever had and kind of fame, but according to revisionists, pac didnt get "gangsta" til he went to death row, when in reality that time in his life was him getting in the least amount of trouble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhhugemQi9I

Blackman28
01-08-08, 11:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhhugemQi9I

LOL...

LukeCage888
01-08-08, 11:38 PM
they dont know,Pac wuznt doin sh1t but dissin nikkas on deathrow...he did way more reckless sh1t b4 that bcuz of the temper or nikkas wuz testin em,if u think anybody goes to jail and court constantly and basically stays broke bcuz of all the lawsuits to keep a "image",u gotta be a dumbazz...Pac woulda went back to jail had he not died for violatin probation probaly...as much as Pac hated jail do u really believe he would risk goin back for YEARS to keep a image up to beat dude up in Vegas? Nikkas all across america got anger problems and self control problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhhugemQi9I

LukeCage888
01-08-08, 11:40 PM
The only classic Pac has to me is Makaveli. That album is dope from start to finish and Pac was just in a whole 'nother zone on this album. It's the REAL black album...no promotion and bumped heavy on the east coast. All Eyes on Me has almost a disc's worth of fillers...LAD was better than AEOM and I don't consider LAD a classic. Me Against the World is solid but I can't listen to EVERY song on that album...some of the songs like Temptation, Dear Mama, and So Many Tears are dope.

Yup...it falls short of a classic to me, but I agree it's the only real banger he's got. The rest of his catalog, just make an Itunes playlist out of the good songs.

Sunzoo aka LC
01-08-08, 11:53 PM
c/s...that's why Pac is overrated as fukk to me. He has great songs. He doesn't have great albums.
Makaveli is the only joint that goes hard pretty much all the way through to me, and even that's got two songs I skip, "Just Like Daddy" and "Toss It Up."

another post in a thread about a rapper you dont like, get off my dicck yellowbelly

Sunzoo aka LC
01-08-08, 11:54 PM
nas, just look at the history of the music, pac was a hip hop martyr great person..but lets look besides all the politics, study the songs...lyric for lyric....nasir jones

even nas would tell you differnet homie, politics, martry ect...none of that sh1t has to do with 2pac being a better song writer, the basis of lyricism is song writer...you do the math, and then listen to nas' own words

LukeCage888
01-08-08, 11:57 PM
another post in a thread about a rapper you dont like, get off my dicck yellowbelly

lol...Stan, why are you so mad?

I think the title of the thread is Nas vs. 2Pac. I guess you're so overwhelmed with homoerotic adulation every time you see your father figure's name mentioned your mind blocks out everything else.

LukeCage888
01-09-08, 12:02 AM
even nas would tell you differnet homie, politics, martry ect...none of that sh1t has to do with 2pac being a better song writer, the basis of lyricism is song writer...you do the math, and then listen to nas' own words

Nas knows he's better than Pac. Nas is one of the most arrogant, narcissistic grandiose rappers out there. I don't think he honestly believes that any rapper who ever lived is better than him.

He says Pac was better because he's smart enough to know that Pac is #1 in the eyes of most people, and it's wise to just go along with that. That's why Nas, Jay and others didn't go at Pac when he dissed them. They knew how popular Pac was and that most fans would've sided with him. It would've been a bad career move.

Anyway, Memory Lane>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pac's existence.

Sunzoo aka LC
01-09-08, 12:30 AM
Nas knows he's better than Pac. Nas is one of the most arrogant, narcissistic grandiose rappers out there. I don't think he honestly believes that any rapper who ever lived is better than him.
He says Pac was better because he's smart enough to know that Pac is #1 in the eyes of most people, and it's wise to just go along with that. That's why Nas, Jay and others didn't go at Pac when he dissed them. They knew how popular Pac was and that most fans would've sided with him. It would've been a bad career move.
Anyway, Memory Lane>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pac's existence.


LMAO talking out your ass i see...why dont you just stick to whats concrete, you dont really like 2pac all that much, period, not saying you cant or that you're wrong, i'm just saying...every pac appreciation thread i see you playing scrooge mc'haterade, if i dont like a n1gga that much...especially one who aint even putting out music at the moment, i'm not gonna be in every thread about him giving my jaded opinion

then on top of that you use inaccurate information to support your tirade, pac and nas were not scared of 2pac muscially, jay specifically had disses ready for pac that did not drop due to him dying...IMO, neither one of them n1ggas would have been able to rebound from a record like "bomb first"...especially if pac was going that hard before it really was on like that, he woulda spit an even harder rebuttal

but to say that the aint diss pac because they knew people thought he was the best...is to show your ignorance to the situation, pac and nas met face to face, wether or not nas got punked is in question, but the bottom line the squased it, which is why on straight forward diss came out from nas' camp

jay was ready to go at pac...and lose, ever heard dead or alive? his voice/delivery back then would have gotten him eaten alive

T.N.C.
01-09-08, 12:48 AM
:laugh:...no.
Pac has 0 classics.


:dry:


Weren't you the one saying Ghostface Killah was better than B.I.G. and Pac?

boombche_stum
01-09-08, 12:58 AM
:laugh:...no.
Pac has 0 classics.

Yeah, you're right... 2Pacalypse Now, Me Against The World, Makaveli, All Eyez On Me.... none of those are classics...










:thumbsdow


I'm a big fan of Nas' music (Dude is top 4 for me) but yall kill me with this hardcore stanning, talking out your ass by saying Pac has no classics like your opinion on the matter is the only one that counts. SMH.

T.N.C.
01-09-08, 01:02 AM
c/s...that's why Pac is overrated as fukk to me.



it falls short of a classic to me


Maybe your opinion sucks.


He says Pac was better because he's smart enough to know that Pac is #1 in the eyes of most people, and it's wise to just go along with that.


You should just take Nas's advice.

mitchandness
01-09-08, 09:38 AM
Nas knows he's better than Pac. Nas is one of the most arrogant, narcissistic grandiose rappers out there. I don't think he honestly believes that any rapper who ever lived is better than him.
He says Pac was better because he's smart enough to know that Pac is #1 in the eyes of most people, and it's wise to just go along with that. That's why Nas, Jay and others didn't go at Pac when he dissed them. They knew how popular Pac was and that most fans would've sided with him. It would've been a bad career move.
Anyway, Memory Lane>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pac's existence.
:yes:

Easy-E
01-09-08, 11:13 AM
Pac had a great message(most of the time), but made alot of BS music, and wasn't the most technical rapper, but his catalogue speaks for itself

Nas has a great message also, made alot of BS music but he has alot of technical skills

Lyrical Pac can't mess wit tracks like 'It Aint Hard To Tell' or 'Take It In Blood'

Pac conveyed emotion better (Check all of 'Me Against The World') and Nas has flashs of great emotion in the music ('My Way', 'You Gonna Love It')

But Nas is the overall better rapper

euro dirt
01-09-08, 11:23 AM
aight then we agree
as far as what pac could have done after "thug lyfe" (people often misconstrue what this meant to him, it wasnt about wildin and shooting n1ggas, it was a mantra, a code, not a catch phrase)
who knows from a social stand point, i do know that he had plans to go into poltics, if pac was living you'd prolly see him standing behind barrak obama and putting money in the campaigns and programs, he had plans that he was not mature enough to put into full swing but i think he would have gotten there
he died at 24 man...i'm only 25, and i know i have a lot to learn about being a man especially not having a father...i can only imagine what it felt like to be right out of "child hood" with no kind of guidence with a good portion of young black males looking to you for direction...thats a lot of fuccking pressure to handle
the growth i'm talking about is artistically...i mean i have no concrete evidence of course, but if you look at his career, he was one of the few rappers to start off good, and end up EXCEPTIONAL, jay and nas started off strong, declined, had to re-invent ect...they peaked on their first couple albums, pac's artistic scope was climbing with every album, the momentum that he had before he died was insane
not to mention he still had one more album with death row, access to quality production and more time...he could have easily made another great album or two before a noticable decline if at all, wishful thinking i suppose, but his career and catalog are unique in that, most rappers peak early, pac was still building on his skill set by his 7th album
Im fully aware of what thug life meant. I've seen Resurrection! I just can't see him screaming it 10years on. Pac was taken too quick.

Newday
01-09-08, 12:06 PM
Since when delivery became more important than the actual lyrics and flow?

It's dope when a rapper displays his emotion through the way say his words by screeming, crying or whatever. but it's more dope when rappers show their emotin through their lyrics themselves. We talking about rappers here, not actors.

If Emotion was the most important thing, then DMX would've been the best rapper ever.

Nas is better rapper period. And don't talk to me about how Nas himself would've said pac is best because Nas always gives props to older rappers. In fact, I heard Nas call Rakim and Krs the best more than Pac.

doinThangz
01-09-08, 12:28 PM
:laugh:...no.
Pac has 0 classics.

lol..why do you have to take it that far??
most Pac fans are Nas fans and vice versa..

you seem like your bothered by something else
saying that Me Against the World, AEOM and 7 day theory arent classics is asinine...just like if someone where to say Illmatic, Stillmatic, Lost Tapes arent classics is asinine. :cool:

Reggie Jams
01-09-08, 01:06 PM
niccas hating on pac saying he ain't got classic albums just great songs....


luke cage is a f!cking cornball dude, nicca is stupid

like the dude said 'all nas stans are actually pac stans'

I'm a hugh nas fan

AskariSTL//So
01-09-08, 01:13 PM
Pac had a great message(most of the time), but made alot of BS music, and wasn't the most technical rapper, but his catalogue speaks for itself
Nas has a great message also, made alot of BS music but he has alot of technical skills
Lyrical Pac can't mess wit tracks like 'It Aint Hard To Tell' or 'Take It In Blood'
Pac conveyed emotion better (Check all of 'Me Against The World') and Nas has flashs of great emotion in the music ('My Way', 'You Gonna Love It')
But Nas is the overall better rapper
This is the best and most unbiased post in this thread.




And I cant leave without laughing hysterically once again at the S.H.A.K.U.R. Coalition in full effect as usual. Luke Cage, Hero for Hire, dont sweat these little revisionists my mellow.

:D again at the shameless twisting of terms like "lyrical" by the Lesane Parrish shocktroopers. At least no one has tried to bring up that "Tupac was a black revolutionary" idiocy yet, but its sure to happen.

Po Pimp
01-09-08, 01:14 PM
lol...Pac always talks about being rich, Nas had that whole fake "escobar" thing :laugh: ....the consensus on a whole is that Jay is one of the greatest to ever do it. so GTFOH

plus he just dropped the only hip hop classic in minute

the whole conscious emcee thing is stupid if you ask me
....its only cool if you think you can learn something from a high school
dropout and backup dancer..or former drug dealers ... lol

Look u fukkin idiot, I was just making the argument that Jay may be more of an introspective rapper than Pac and Nas because he talks about his OWN life in majority of his songs. Nas doing the "Escobar" thing wasn't his life and Pac has a bunch of songs where he's not referring to himself directly. Don't try to make it any deeper than it is.

U jumping to diss Jay-Z when I'm not even dissing him...what kinda shyt is that?

pureplayaII
01-09-08, 01:31 PM
Nas. Pac is overrated.

Sunzoo aka LC
01-09-08, 02:07 PM
Pac had a great message(most of the time), but made alot of BS music, and wasn't the most technical rapper, but his catalogue speaks for itself
Nas has a great message also, made alot of BS music but he has alot of technical skills
Lyrical Pac can't mess wit tracks like 'It Aint Hard To Tell' or 'Take It In Blood'
Pac conveyed emotion better (Check all of 'Me Against The World') and Nas has flashs of great emotion in the music ('My Way', 'You Gonna Love It')
But Nas is the overall better rapper


ok first i would like to address the "bullsh1t" music comment...what exactly is bullsh1t music? i thought 2pac fans were the ones who needed to bring up "message, politics" and all that other bullsh1t that you just harped on without actually mentioning the mans skillset

pac made no bullsh1t music...just becuase all of his songs werent some lets hold hands, deep thought revolutionary rap doesnt mean it was bullsh1t...leave all of that other sh1t, the politics and everything OUT OF THE DISCUSSION, who cares WHAT they were rapping about, we are judging who's better at what they do, and pac was obviously a BETTER SONG WRITER THAN NAS

i havent seen one n1gga argue that point, you either have a biased homo who runs around to every 2pac thread to give his jaded opinion or you have other cats coming in and saying "nas is better" and leaving it at that as if nas himself would tell you different...then they make up little stories and excuses as to why nas would say such a thing lmao

he said it because he's true, now...can you please tell me what makes nas more lyrical than pac, and please dont play your self with "nas is brilliant, pac is only hennasy, enemies", really examine WHY you think nas is a better lyricist, remember that lyricism is based on writing songs...so as long as you deem 2pac a better song writer, there is an argument for them at the very LEAST being equal in that department...nas can say some pretty complicated bullsh1t out of a text book over wack beats with wack hooks, 2pac executed great songs on a consistent basis, there is nothing that nas can do lyrically that trumps that

nas has some technical ablity...but compared to his contemporaries, especially after his first two albums or so, his actual flow and delivery leave a lot to be desired, pac's flow and delivery were always EXCEPTIONAL

how does your delivery and flow some how not matter in this argument? what other factors do we figure in

lyrics = tie (until one of you shows me what nas > pac in this area)
flow = Pac by FAR
delivery = Pac by FAR
voice = Pac by FAR
content = Pac by a slim margin
vocabulary = nas
song writing = Pac

i mean...do we need to go on? he obviously has a better flow and delivery and that is IMPORTANT, he's obviously a better song maker/has better execution, regardless of what they was talking about (dr. knock boot anyone?, thats not bullsh1t music?), pac's flow was much more versitile, his albums had MUCH MUCH BETTER PRODUCTION overall

where is the overwelming evidence on nas' behalf? this is a discussion fellas, not hate or whatever you're confusing it for, just back up your opinion with some support, i personally really love both of these guys music, but i'm not judging them on bias, i'm actually comparing their skill sets

and please note that the lyricism of today is entirely different than what it really is supposed to be...in todays age, lil wayne, or juelz santana is a lyricists because they come up with witty punchlines and jokes, thats notion of lyricism asinine

king_k4life
01-09-08, 02:10 PM
Pac by far, you could even argue that he was the better lyricist...and i wish you would try to compare godson or stillmatic to either of pac's 3 classics, fucck outta here

both are top 5, but even nas knows and knew what was up


Illmatic >> Anything Pac has released

It Was Written >>> Anything Pac has released


He has no third classic

The Lost Tapes, God's Son, Stillmatic = The best pac has to offer album wise...'


* bumps Pac *

AZ I 'C' it
01-09-08, 02:26 PM
...Tupac.

Reggie Jams
01-09-08, 02:32 PM
Illmatic >> Anything Pac has released
It Was Written >>> Anything Pac has released
He has no third classic
The Lost Tapes, God's Son, Stillmatic = The best pac has to offer album wise...'
* bumps Pac *


you believe that?? :laugh:

IRONMAN26
01-09-08, 02:35 PM
Nas

F 2 Tha L
01-09-08, 02:38 PM
i really like 2Pac, but Nas >>> anyone in hip-hop by a mile

T.N.C.
01-09-08, 03:15 PM
Since when delivery became more important than the actual lyrics and flow?


Since when have sales been more important than actual talent?

The point is, there is NO set standard on what is a more important catergory with emcees. To put ANY one catergory over another is showing preferencial bias. However, if you take ALL catergories and make them equal weight, you will see Pac surpasses Nas in more than vice versa.



It's dope when a rapper displays his emotion through the way say his words by screeming, crying or whatever. but it's more dope when rappers show their emotin through their lyrics themselves. We talking about rappers here, not actors.
If Emotion was the most important thing, then DMX would've been the best rapper ever.


I don't feel DMX displayed more raw emotion OR range of emotion on music as Pac did. However, to SOME people, emotion is more important than wordplay. different strokes for different folks.


Nas is better rapper period. And don't talk to me about how Nas himself would've said pac is best because Nas always gives props to older rappers. In fact, I heard Nas call Rakim and Krs the best more than Pac.


Nas said in interviews and on songs that Pac was the best. However there really IS no best emcee. Its all dependant on how you look at things. To decide the best, you have to determine first what MAKES "the best".

Nas: "Who's the best emcee? Pac, Nas then BIG... ain't no best"

T.N.C.
01-09-08, 03:22 PM
I find it funny how Nas's supporters can always come out in masses in a 2Pac thread, but in a Jay-Z, B.I.G., Ghostface or the millions of "Naws Lost" threads they are nowhere to be found.

LOL @ the selective cowardice of the Nas stans :laugh:

Reggie Jams
01-09-08, 03:25 PM
I find it funny how Nas's supporters can always come out in masses in a 2Pac thread, but in a Jay-Z, B.I.G., Ghostface or the millions of "Naws Lost" threads they are nowhere to be found.
LOL @ the selective cowardice of the Nas stans :laugh:

yeah i agree. it's f!cking laughable and i'm a nas fan

:laugh:

now i realise why theres so many nas losts threads on this forum

Sunzoo aka LC
01-09-08, 03:41 PM
lmao @ IWW > me against the world, ammusing

nas' beat selection alone keeps him from making better complete albums

Blackman28
01-09-08, 03:45 PM
LOL @ the hypocrisy from Sunzoo...like Pac had a good ear for beats. His beats weren't all that either. You never listen to guys like Pac and Nas for the production anyways so that is a stupid point.

Sumjoo aka LC
01-09-08, 03:47 PM
Eminem sh1ts on all of them anyway.

Public Wizard
01-09-08, 03:53 PM
I'm a big Nas fan, but Pac had more character then Nas. he actually could make you laugth, cry, angry. he brought out emotions.

Sumjoo aka LC
01-09-08, 04:00 PM
I'm a big Nas fan, but Pac had more character then Nas. he actually could make you laugth, cry, angry. he brought out emotions.
no homo but thats the truth. He made made me cry on "dear Mama"