FACT: Jay-Z has the worst discography of any GOAT candidate.

[dj-method-x]

People act like those albums he released when he was dropping an album every year didn't suck. Everyone was dissing those albums. Dude was making cake 50 Cent type albums. Dude has 4 average to decent albums in between reasonable doubt and blue print and 2 duds post blueprint. I'm not knocking dude's status as one of the all time greats but if you compare his discography with other ATGs who never dropped wack albums............you get the point
Jay-Z's Discography
Reasonable Doubt - Classic
In My Lifetime - Average
Vol 2. - Good singles, bad album. Average
Vol 3. - booty
Dynasty - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
The Blueprint - Classic
Blueprint 2 - hot garbage
The Black Album - Alot of people like this album so I'll leave my hatred for this album outta the picture and call it a good album.
Kingdome Come - Average
American Gangster - Dope
Nas' Discography
Illmatic - Classic
It was Written - Masterpiece
I Am (including leaked tracks) - Masterpiece
Nastradamus - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
Stillmatic - Masterpiece, some call it classic
God's Son - Very good album
Street's Disciple - hot fukking garbage I dont care what no one says
Hiphop Is Dead - Very good album
Biggie's Discography
2 Classics nuff said
2 Pac's Discography
Bunch of classics
Dude does not have a wack album maybe if you count that wack azz Eminem produced shyt or any of the post humous efforts besides Makeveli.
Rakim Discography
4 Classics with Eric B. I give him a pass for everything made thereafter.
So there you have it. If you want to find a ATG candidate that has more wack albums than Jigger you're gonna have to reach to debatable ATGs like LL Cool J.

[Heyman7]

Point is he has a lengthy catalog ; not too many rappers have that many albums. Enough quality material through all them albums.

[StreetSweeper]

Jay is also the most relevant, has the most albums, and is still alive...Close thread..

[bigesco]

Jay is also the most relevant, has the most albums, and is still alive...Close thread..

What a fukkin idiot

Its about the quality of music

With that in mind, gayz aint even top 50 or 100.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

da fucck outta here man, he has a top 5 discography in rap, period

RD - 5 mics
vol. 1 - 4 mics
vol. 2 - 3.5
vol. 3 - 4 mics
dynasty - 3.5 mics
the blueprint - 5 mics
BP2 - 3.5
TBA - 5 mics
KC - 4 mics
AG - 4.5

not to mention longevity, you gonna have to compare him to people with a high volume of albums, and in that reguard, he's up there, there is nothing factual about your opinon chief, the only real fact is st. louis is known for wack rappers, and apparently wack posters as well

[FocusedDaily]

da fucck outta here man, he has a top 5 discography in rap, period

RD - 5 mics
vol. 1 - 4 mics
vol. 2 - 3.5
vol. 3 - 4 mics
dynasty - 3.5 mics
the blueprint - 5 mics
BP2 - 3.5
TBA - 5 mics
KC - 4 mics
AG - 4.5

not to mention longevity, you gonna have to compare him to people with a high volume of albums, and in that reguard, he's up there, there is nothing factual about your opinon chief, the only real fact is st. louis is known for wack rappers, and apparently wack posters as well
:yes:

[King Joe]

da fucck outta here man, he has a top 5 discography in rap, period

RD - 5 mics
vol. 1 - 4 mics
vol. 2 - 3.5
vol. 3 - 4 mics
dynasty - 3.5 mics
the blueprint - 5 mics
BP2 - 3.5
TBA - 5 mics
KC - 4 mics
AG - 4.5

not to mention longevity, you gonna have to compare him to people with a high volume of albums, and in that reguard, he's up there, there is nothing factual about your opinon chief, the only real fact is st. louis is known for wack rappers, and apparently wack posters as well

c/s

[TheY2DreProblem]

No lost tapes for nazz? I thought that was a really good album

[Sunzoo aka LC]

No lost tapes for nazz? I thought that was a really good album

it's great..but it's really a compilation of unreleased sh1t, not a studio album so i dont judge it as such

[TheY2DreProblem]

it's great..but it's really a compilation of unreleased sh1t, not a studio album so i dont judge it as such

This is true. :yes:

But yeah, i dont agree with the OP cuz to me jay only has a few wack albums, and they are wack by his standards. Not absolute garbage. Its just some of them aren't what people are used to hearing when they listen to a jay-z album

[boojitede]

da fucck outta here man, he has a top 5 discography in rap, period

RD - 5 mics
vol. 1 - 4 mics
vol. 2 - 3.5
vol. 3 - 4 mics
dynasty - 3.5 mics
the blueprint - 5 mics
BP2 - 3.5
TBA - 5 mics
KC - 4 mics
AG - 4.5

not to mention longevity, you gonna have to compare him to people with a high volume of albums, and in that reguard, he's up there, there is nothing factual about your opinon chief, the only real fact is st. louis is known for wack rappers, and apparently wack posters as well
:ohmy: @ KC and vol 3 being higher than vol 2 and dynasty and bp2.

edit: i usually always agree with your opinion but dynasty as anything less than 4 is ABSURD

[Sunzoo aka LC]

:ohmy: @ KC and vol 3 being higher than vol 2 and dynasty and bp2.

yea, i'm like the only n1gga on earth that likes KC, i still listen to it, hollywood is one of my favorite joints

i used to rate vol. 3 lower, but it grew on me, i hated it when i first heard it, vol. 2 is the opposite...if you woulda asked me when i BOUGHT IT, vol.2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread...but as i tried to go back to it, i remembered why i skip so many songs, cuz like 6 or 7 of them were singles with videos, not counting the remix to money cash hoes...i'm like damn, this was still a good album, but it's commercial as fucck, it was glossy, still had so much impact, it's a real hard album to rate

[boojitede]

yea, i'm like the only n1gga on earth that likes KC, i still listen to it, hollywood is one of my favorite joints
i used to rate vol. 3 lower, but it grew on me, i hated it when i first heard it, vol. 2 is the opposite...if you woulda asked me when i BOUGHT IT, vol.2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread...but as i tried to go back to it, i remembered why i skip so many songs, cuz like 6 or 7 of them were singles with videos, not counting the remix to money cash hoes...i'm like damn, this was still a good album, but it's commercial as fucck, it was glossy, still had so much impact, it's a real hard album to rate
and why is dynasty so low? some classic cuts on there. GEMS

i hate vol 3 lol

[BadFELLA]

The Camel is overrated as fukk, Real Nukka's know.

[cladyclad]

i dont see how even the biggest jay-z hater can say such things

cladyclad does not approve this thread

[enfluential]

da fucck outta here man, he has a top 5 discography in rap, period

RD - 5 mics
vol. 1 - 4 mics
vol. 2 - 3.5
vol. 3 - 4 mics
dynasty - 3.5 mics
the blueprint - 5 mics
BP2 - 3.5
TBA - 5 mics
KC - 4 mics
AG - 4.5

not to mention longevity, you gonna have to compare him to people with a high volume of albums, and in that reguard, he's up there, there is nothing factual about your opinon chief, the only real fact is st. louis is known for wack rappers, and apparently wack posters as well

agree with everything except i would switch the rating for vols 2 & 3

[Windex Cleanerz]

Reasonable Doubt - Classic
Vol.1 - Damn good
Vol.2 - Aight
Vol.3 - Garbage
The Dynasty - I slept on this album for mad years, but its pretty good a little bit
Blueprint - Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Good (avoiding the word classic)
Blueprint 2 - Aight
Black Album - Very Very Very Good
Kingdom Come - Aight
American Gangster - Very Very Good

and since you want to compare Jay-z to Nas (this is sohh i forgot)

Illmatic - Classic
IWW - Classic
I Am - Very Good
Nastradamus - Garbage
Stillmatic - Very Very Very Very Very Very Very good (again, avoiding the word classic)
God's Son - I personally hate most of that album, but alot of folks like it......Aight
The Lost Tapes - Classic
Streets Disciple - Very Very Very good
HHID - Aight


Jay-z dropped albums back to back to back year after year. The n*gga's discography is impeccable. Nas is still better tho :guilty:

[Sunzoo aka LC]

and why is dynasty so low? some classic cuts on there. GEMS
i hate vol 3 lol

first of all...you gotta understand, maybe on these other n1ggas scales, 3.5 is a bad album...to me, thats actually good/above average, so in reality if you look at my list, jay really has no "wack" albums...even the lower rated ones have some great material with either one or two things taking away from the overall quality

for example...vol 3 had some shoddy hook work, but even on the wack songs he was spitting his ass off, almost at the peak of his actual 16 spitting ability, he just wasnt a complete song maker when it came to balence/hooks until he hit BP

thats why i dig jay man..everything that was weak about his overall game, he took steps to improve, from his voice not being the best and delivery not being the hardest...he somehow improved

n1gga used to NEED dame dash on stage just to keep people awake...and now he's one got one of the best live performances in the game all the while being himself...he aint animated, his connection with the crowd is intimate, now his hook game is much better, he's conceptually improving and adding more substance (which was another of his weak spots)

dude works hard at his craft man...

[Windex Cleanerz]

i cant even consider Vol.3 a jay-z album
mine as well call that a Beans album

same thing goes for the dynasty although that intro is amazing

[RakimChamillion259]

it's great..but it's really a compilation of unreleased sh1t, not a studio album so i dont judge it as such

Yeah but wasn't almost all of it what was suppose to be on I Am before it leaked and he started it over?

[Mandizi]

People act like those albums he released when he was dropping an album every year didn't suck. Everyone was dissing those albums. Dude was making cake 50 Cent type albums. Dude has 4 average to decent albums in between reasonable doubt and blue print and 2 duds post blueprint. I'm not knocking dude's status as one of the all time greats but if you compare his discography with other ATGs who never dropped wack albums............you get the point
Jay-Z's Discography
Reasonable Doubt - Classic
In My Lifetime - Average
Vol 2. - Good singles, bad album. Average
Vol 3. - booty
Dynasty - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
The Blueprint - Classic
Blueprint 2 - hot garbage
The Black Album - Alot of people like this album so I'll leave my hatred for this album outta the picture and call it a good album.
Kingdome Come - Average
American Gangster - Dope
Nas' Discography
Illmatic - Classic
It was Written - Masterpiece
I Am (including leaked tracks) - Masterpiece
Nastradamus - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
Stillmatic - Masterpiece, some call it classic
God's Son - Very good album
Street's Disciple - hot fukking garbage I dont care what no one says
Hiphop Is Dead - Very good album
Biggie's Discography
2 Classics nuff said
2 Pac's Discography
Bunch of classics
Dude does not have a wack album maybe if you count that wack azz Eminem produced shyt or any of the post humous efforts besides Makeveli.
Rakim Discography
4 Classics with Eric B. I give him a pass for everything made thereafter.
So there you have it. If you want to find a ATG candidate that has more wack albums than Jigger you're gonna have to reach to debatable ATGs like LL Cool J.


ironic you brought up the other goats' catalouges

imo along with Jigga that's the top 5 best ever

[Skilltastrophy]

i cant even consider Vol.3 a jay-z album
mine as well call that a Beans album
same thing goes for the dynasty although that intro is amazing

if that's what you think....you never heard Volume 3

lol...how many tracks was Beanie even on?

just say you never heard Volume 3 and move on...you lame as hell

[Mandizi]

I know this thread has nothing to do with sales, but Jay-Z is the only rapper with 10 platinum solo albums(before death).

That's crazy.

[cladyclad]

if that's what you think....you never heard Volume 3
lol...how many tracks was Beanie even on?
just say you never heard Volume 3 and move on...you lame as hell


exactly. beans only on 2 songs.

dude cred is shot to hell

[Wolfe]

Rakim Discography
4 Classics with Eric B. I give him a pass for everything made thereafter.

i'm guessing you've never heard The 18th Letter?

[Windex Cleanerz]

if that's what you think....you never heard Volume 3
lol...how many tracks was Beanie even on?
just say you never heard Volume 3 and move on...you lame as hell

Are you serious?
Did you actually take me literally when I said that.
Tell me,

how many songs on there were Jay-z solo tracks. Not even saying beans was on EVERY song. But a good stretch of that album it sounded like Jay was just trying to put the ROC on with that album.
All beanie sh*t aside. I have the album sitting on my headboard right now dont try no stupid sh*t like that with me.....lame ass niggga

So Ghetto
NYMP
Come Get Me happen to be my favorite songs on that album

notice they are all Jay-z solo's.

[euro dirt]

i agree with thread starter

[RandyBodek]

jay is top 5 dead or alive but i always said, his albums aint all that and never were aside from Reasonable Doubt. "Blueprint" was only dope because of Kanye. jay-z's discography is very average.

[cladyclad]

Are you serious?
Did you actually take me literally when I said that.
Tell me,
how many songs on there were Jay-z solo tracks. Not even saying beans was on EVERY song. But a good stretch of that album it sounded like Jay was just trying to put the ROC on with that album.
All beanie sh*t aside. I have the album sitting on my headboard right now dont try no stupid sh*t like that with me.....lame ass niggga
So Ghetto
NYMP
Come Get Me happen to be my favorite songs on that album
notice they are all Jay-z solo's.


Pop 4 Roc
Do It Again
S.Carter
are the only songs with the Roc on em.

3 out 16 is not alot

[Windex Cleanerz]

Pop 4 Roc
Do It Again
S.Carter
are the only songs with the Roc on em.
3 out 16 is not alot

Do It Again
Things That You Do
Snoopy Track (which was my sh!t)
S.Carter
Pop 4 Roc
Watch Me (another one of my fav songs)
Big Pimpin (used to be my sh*t)

all have guest appereances ....count theres been a murder as well.

You are all overanalyzing what I'm saying. ....basically it comes down to. Vol.3 is PERSONALLY ...in my own opinion not a good album to me. Its his worst album to me in fact. It had a lot of gems on there, but I just didnt like the sound of the album. Not saying too many guest appreances are a bad thing, becuase its not ...but in one stretch of the album (tracks 5-12) ...there was somebody else featured on the album (except for Some Like It Hot).

I just fukked with Jay's solo style on that album more. When he threw other people on his records it just fukked up the mood of the album to me.

Hate that opinion all you want. If anybody read what I posted earlier I stated Jay has one of the most impeccable discographies ever. But Vol.3 was weak to me.

[cladyclad]

watch me - Dr dre hook
snoopy track- Juve hook
things...-mariah hook

4 songs with guest verses

[Mandizi]

jay is top 5 dead or alive but i always said, his albums aint all that and never were aside from Reasonable Doubt. "Blueprint" was only dope because of Kanye. jay-z's discography is very average.


False man, how you gonna forget about Just Blaze, Bink, and Jigga's flow and wordplay?

Kanye had an intricate part on that album, but he wasn't the only reason.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

thats exactly why i hated vol. 3....way too many guest spots, i'm like damn jay is pretty much at his peak technically, yet here come all these other subpar muthafucckas crowding the mic, not like they were bad, but just unessecary

kinda like how the outlawz didnt need to be on that many tracks of makaveli...they didnt take anything away from the songs, but sometimes i picture joints like hail marry without them on it and i'm like FUCCK, even tho they performed, i still resented that the took time away from 2pac at his lyrical peak

[dj-method-x]

thats exactly why i hated vol. 3....way too many guest spots, i'm like damn jay is pretty much at his peak technically, yet here come all these other subpar muthafucckas crowding the mic, not like they were bad, but just unessecary

kinda like how the outlawz didnt need to be on that many tracks of makaveli...they didnt take anything away from the songs, but sometimes i picture joints like hail marry without them on it and i'm like FUCCK, even tho they performed, i still resented that the took time away from 2pac at his lyrical peak

you hated vol. 3 but yet you rank it four mics..... GTFOH. You're credibility is nonexistant. That album is hot garbage and no one listens to it in 08. 3.5 at best. You're a fukking retard. You're lucky I didn't destroy your Messiah's discography (eminem). Now that's a rapper with only 1 and a half good albums (MMLP is fukking overrated). Everything else from that clown is garbage outside of the Slim Shady lp.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

you hated vol. 3 but yet you rank it four mics..... GTFOH. You're credibility is nonexistant. That album is hot garbage and no one listens to it in 08. 3.5 at best. You're a fukking retard. You're lucky I didn't destroy your Messiah's discography (eminem). Now that's a rapper with only 1 and a half good albums (MMLP is fukking overrated). Everything else from that clown is garbage outside of the Slim Shady lp.

i said earlier clearly that i did not like vol. 3 when i first heard it, it grew on me, i said i rated it lower at first listen you dumbfucck, there are some great songs on that one and the song with mariah is lyrically sicck as hell, there you go making up points to argue against just because i broke your faaggy logic down to a science

and do what you wanna do duke, like i said, only b1tch made n1ggas who dont know how to debate or have no real leg to stand on revert back to "what about eminem, huh!" argument when the thread has nothing to do with him, aint you the same n1gga that was swinging your pom poms for garbage n1ggas like nelly, j kwon, pretty willie and a host of other hoe ass n1ggas? the best rapper from your city...is a B1TCH, a female, and she flopped

keep making sh1t up fam, slim thug is the goat!

[CrossBones]

I really stopped checking a lot of his albums after vol 2, and just listened to American Gangsta. He has a lot of material and hes a legend, but the reason why people dont put him up there with Big or other GOATs(?) all the time is that in his time in Hip Hop, the scene was weaker and generally all the other acts that were his comp were dead or no longer 'radio friendly'


Still a legend and one of the greatest tho, but some of his albums reflect that era and **** that people dont like about Hip Hop

[JMurder]

People act like those albums he released when he was dropping an album every year didn't suck. Everyone was dissing those albums. Dude was making cake 50 Cent type albums. Dude has 4 average to decent albums in between reasonable doubt and blue print and 2 duds post blueprint. I'm not knocking dude's status as one of the all time greats but if you compare his discography with other ATGs who never dropped wack albums............you get the point
Jay-Z's Discography
Reasonable Doubt - Classic
In My Lifetime - Average
Vol 2. - Good singles, bad album. Average
Vol 3. - booty
Dynasty - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
The Blueprint - Classic
Blueprint 2 - hot garbage
The Black Album - Alot of people like this album so I'll leave my hatred for this album outta the picture and call it a good album.
Kingdome Come - Average
American Gangster - Dope
Nas' Discography
Illmatic - Classic
It was Written - Masterpiece :laugh:
I Am (including leaked tracks) - Masterpiece :laugh: (without leaked tracks which I haven't heard)
Nastradamus - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
Stillmatic - Masterpiece, some call it classic :laugh:
God's Son - Very good album c/s
Street's Disciple - hot fukking garbage I dont care what no one says
Hiphop Is Dead - Very good album
Biggie's Discography
2 Classics nuff said
2 Pac's Discography
Bunch of classics
Dude does not have a wack album maybe if you count that wack azz Eminem produced shyt or any of the post humous efforts besides Makeveli.
Rakim Discography
4 Classics with Eric B. I give him a pass for everything made thereafter.
So there you have it. If you want to find a ATG candidate that has more wack albums than Jigger you're gonna have to reach to debatable ATGs like LL Cool J.

Jay discography is easily better than Nas, he got more albums than B.I.G.

So therefore this thread title is misleading

[illwill01]

People act like those albums he released when he was dropping an album every year didn't suck. Everyone was dissing those albums. Dude was making cake 50 Cent type albums. Dude has 4 average to decent albums in between reasonable doubt and blue print and 2 duds post blueprint. I'm not knocking dude's status as one of the all time greats but if you compare his discography with other ATGs who never dropped wack albums............you get the point

Jay-Z's Discography
Reasonable Doubt - Classic
In My Lifetime - Average
Vol 2. - Good singles, bad album. Average
Vol 3. - booty
Dynasty - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
The Blueprint - Classic
Blueprint 2 - hot garbage
The Black Album - Alot of people like this album so I'll leave my hatred for this album outta the picture and call it a good album.
Kingdome Come - Average
American Gangster - Dope

Nas' Discography
Illmatic - Classic
It was Written - Masterpiece
I Am (including leaked tracks) - Masterpiece
Nastradamus - aiiiiiiiiiight at best
Stillmatic - Masterpiece, some call it classic
God's Son - Very good album
Street's Disciple - hot fukking garbage I dont care what no one says
Hiphop Is Dead - Very good album
even though I agree with your ratings of Jay-Z's discography pretty much, I think Black album is a classic but other than that you are on point. But your rating for Nas' albums expose your bias towards him. And Street's Disciple = Blueprint 2 and they are pretty good albums, they could both be made into amazing albums if condensed into one disc. But calling IWW, Stillmatic and especially I Am "masterpieces" is funny. I Am is a masterpiece? There are like 5 or 6 tracks i listen to on that album, I would say The Dynasty and Volume 1 are as good or better.

[NotSoft]

lol at rakim havin 4 classics...and no cube?

[Mr. Smoke Weed]

yup true

[Kingest Kong]

SMH @ ppl still sleeping on the dynasty and the black album.

[LukeCage888]

FACT: The title of this thread is an opinion.

[Perverted Justice]

This thread is fact.

Sunzoo, I agree with you about most sh*t, but most of his catalog is bullsh*t, designed to sell records. No personality about the records. Taylor made for MTV, BET, and new rap fans.

[ILLFiL A BLuNT]

sunzoo you retarded for likin that hollywood track. I don't even kno jayz stan b*tches that like that trash

the truth is jay-z watered down his music so much that he became the "blueprint" for modern hip-hop

by the time Vol. 2 came jay-z had already comprimsed himself too much

the truth is jayz got on off ja-rule, irv gotti & murder inc.

jay-z has only like 20 good songs from 2000 & on.

if the pressure is put on me I can say only thing memorable from dynasty is the where's my daddy song & 1900 hustler

blueprint got the last track momma love me & ill never change

blueprint 2 got sisters & b*tches (a nas reply record for sayin he steady diss women) & the watcher pt 2

oh and dat m.o.p. track

the retire album had threats, my 1st song & december 4th

kingdom come had title track, katrina song & one of the beginning tracks

american gangster had success and ignorant sh*t

I aint stretchin either I'm being dead up

[MalcomGuevera]

People act like those albums he released when he was dropping an album every year didn't suck.

Man, Jay Z Was Worse Then 50 Cent And Had The Entire Brooklyn Riding And Sweating Every Piece Of Jewelry He Had On At The Time.....He Caked Off Of Singles And When Fat Joe Does It, People Hate.....But Noooooo, Jay Z Is Some Kind Of Rap Legend, I Give Him Props But When You Have A Good Percent Of The Nation Listening And Following You, You Need To Hear The Truth.

[khalo]

the thing that will always keep jay from being the "best" in my mind is something very simple that many may disagree with. Its the fact that he constantly has to remind us "and if i aint better than big, im the closest one"
"im the best rapper alive" and on and on and on. its almost as if he cant let his catalog stand on its own merits, he has to CONSTANTLY remind you that he is the greatest. honestly i think Scarface and Nas are better GOAT candidates, but thats only my opinion. Jay is def the most succsessful, but the greatest... hmmmm

[POINT84]

the thing that will always keep jay from being the "best" in my mind is something very simple that many may disagree with. Its the fact that he constantly has to remind us "and if i aint better than big, im the closest one"
"im the best rapper alive" and on and on and on. its almost as if he cant let his catalog stand on its own merits, he has to CONSTANTLY remind you that he is the greatest. honestly i think Scarface and Nas are better GOAT candidates, but thats only my opinion. Jay is def the most succsessful, but the greatest... hmmmm

pretty much..most people (especially on here) honestly just have a problem with his ego. Jay not being in the top 50....wow, seriously? I mean its all opinion at the end of the day, but id really like to see guys list of whos better

[khalo]

pretty much..most people (especially on here) honestly just have a problem with his ego. Jay not being in the top 50....wow, seriously? I mean its all opinion at the end of the day, but id really like to see guys list of whos better

i def think jay-z is top 5 but goat? nah.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

sunzoo you retarded for likin that hollywood track. I don't even kno jayz stan b*tches that like that trash


for one homie, the song is a concept record disguised as a hit, the beat was hot, and people think that just because beyonce is on it that it's some syrupy girl song, it aint even about that, it's about the ills of hollywood...it's the SAME EXACT SONG AS "BLUNT ASHES" by nas...just done in jay-z's style

he rode the fucck out of that beat and there were plenty quotables...as for the rest of your post, all the sh1t is subjective man, you just sound like you arent a fan of jay-z, nothing wrong with that...but all this "jay compromised" this and that is irrelevant, he reached people with his music and put out quality products on a consistent basis

people often warn me that the fame aint for the faint of heart
it can change those, that say they had love for you, into strangers
when ya fame starts, it's a chain reaction...loco-motion like when a train departs, stranger things have happened, rappin, stackin, platinum plaq'in....

please man, jigga ate that beat, aint too many rappers in the game that could have pulled that song off, easily the best jay and beyonce collabo

[macknific]

:laugh: how can you say Jay-Z has the worst catalogue then turn around & say Pa'has no wakc albums GTFOH. damn i hate people who say Pac has all these classics, where are they? all i see is MATW & MAYBE 7 Day Theory could be "classic". Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.? wack to average. Better Dayz? wack IMO besides a few songs. AEOM is a solid 4.5 but not "classic" IMO.

i def agree that Jay has one of the wort catalogs for a GOAT contender but i just hate when people act like everything Pac does is like a cd from god.