GZA (unprovoked) says F*ck 50 Cent (Video inside)

[hexagram23]

another major problem I have is that you got some n1ggas in here telling me that Liquid swords is better than GRODT.......based on what????????????.....liquid swords best songs were the collaborations.....Cuban links was a better cd
I cant stand this NEW AGE revisionist history going on.....I hate ayo technology but I wont acknowledge that GZA mada song and video for COME do me.While you n1ggas hate on AYP Technology yall dont have sh1t to say about Fully loaded clip,Curtis 187,Man Down,My Gun go off??????????????????
FACT there has not beeen a thread made about the GZA in MANY YEARS and all of a sudden his disses 50 and SOHH is in heaven.What SOHH should be concerned about is that fact that Ghost anmd Rae think the new WU cd is garbage.
At the end of the day here are FACTS
the no talent having 50 just came off a very successful tour around the world and will now start promoting a movie with Pacino and Deniro..Hows that for a no talent n1gga.
only 3 rappers in 2007 went platinum...none have gone Double.T.I and Kanye and 50(not JAY Z)
Come do me is a new jack swing BITE of I get the job done by big daddy Kane
aint no n1gga on this site more about the wu than I do or have as much wu material as I have but they are bitter fukking haters and have been like that since DAY one ..sine Rae and Ghost was hating on BIG.

We don't acknowledge them "hood" songs because ya boy lives in a mansion in Farmington, Connecticut or some sh*t....he ain't been in the hood in like 7 years. I don't mean to visit I mean REALLY in it....so why continue to talk that same sh*t?

As far as "Ayo Technology" vs. "Come Do Me"....both are terrible. The main difference is, Gza made that song in '91....17 years ago, and ya boy 50 made "Ayo" 6 months ago. Gza has gotten better since "Come Do Me", 50 has gotten worse since "GRODT".

Lastly, stop fronting like you are knowledgeable about rap, just because you're old. I been into rap since '84, so there ain't much you can tell me.

Fred.

[Boola Bless]

another major problem I have is that you got some n1ggas in here telling me that Liquid swords is better than GRODT.......based on what????????????.....liquid swords best songs were the collaborations.....Cuban links was a better cd
I cant stand this NEW AGE revisionist history going on.....I hate ayo technology but I wont acknowledge that GZA mada song and video for COME do me.While you n1ggas hate on AYP Technology yall dont have sh1t to say about Fully loaded clip,Curtis 187,Man Down,My Gun go off??????????????????
FACT there has not beeen a thread made about the GZA in MANY YEARS and all of a sudden his disses 50 and SOHH is in heaven.What SOHH should be concerned about is that fact that Ghost anmd Rae think the new WU cd is garbage.
At the end of the day here are FACTS
the no talent having 50 just came off a very successful tour around the world and will now start promoting a movie with Pacino and Deniro..Hows that for a no talent n1gga.
only 3 rappers in 2007 went platinum...none have gone Double.T.I and Kanye and 50(not JAY Z)
Come do me is a new jack swing BITE of I get the job done by big daddy Kane
aint no n1gga on this site more about the wu than I do or have as much wu material as I have but they are bitter fukking haters and have been like that since DAY one ..sine Rae and Ghost was hating on BIG.


You make some good points but the difference between GZA Come Do Me and 50's Ayo Technology is that 50 absolutely embraces making sh!tty pop records because he thinks that thats what sells. But it doesn't. He had a better chance selling more records than he did if he actually put out great hip hop like Kanye did. **** Ayo Technology. **** Candy Shop. Fvck Amusement Park ( I actually like that sh!t). Fvck Just a Lil Bit. When 50 keeps it straight hood is when he's at his best.

Now listen - I LOVE GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN. A mufvckin classic, in my opinion. But you tryna say Liquid Swords ain't better is just some jackass sh!t. Liquid Swords is hands and shoulders better. Rhymes, beats everything. GZA is just a better MC and what he and RZA brung to the table on that album can't be fvcked wit by anything 50 put out IN HIS CAREER.

People should be more concerned wit the dissention within Wu than bein GZA sayin callin 50 untalented. You right. But come on now. SOHH is SOHH. The only timed cats is concerned about n!ggas is when they embroiled in some beef or say something that may lead to beef.

[NotoriousHNIC]

I'm a marginal fan of both artists, I'm definitely not a super fan of either. Speaking objectivly GZA is a much better MC than 50 and Liquid Swords is better than any 50 album, thats proven, undeniable fact.
But Gza is lame for this. Whats the point in dissing 50 randomly? (and yeah I know 50 does it to others all the time, still doesn't make it right)

50 disses people random all the time.. Call a spade a spade

[galvatron]

We don't acknowledge them "hood" songs because ya boy lives in a mansion in Farmington, Connecticut or some sh*t....he ain't been in the hood in like 7 years. I don't mean to visit I mean REALLY in it....so why continue to talk that same sh*t?

As far as "Ayo Technology" vs. "Come Do Me"....both are terrible. The main difference is, Gza made that song in '91....17 years ago, and ya boy 50 made "Ayo" 6 months ago. Gza has gotten better since "Come Do Me", 50 has gotten worse since "GRODT".

Lastly, stop fronting like you are knowledgeable about rap, just because you're old. I been into rap since '84, so there ain't much you can tell me.

Fred.
stop frontimg like I am knowledgeable about Rap?.....I have seen GZA live at the new music seminar in the early 90s before wu even thought about putting they money together to make a cheap video for protect your neck...n1gga I am 35 years old and I have been listening to hiphop all my goddamn life.there aint a fukking thing a n1gga like you can tell me about wu or hiphop.The GZA is plain wrong for saying 50 has no talent.Hooks the ability to write songs is not a talent.Ghostwriting for other rappers is not a talent.A one hit wonder gets lucky....but How to rob came out in 1999....Wangsta came out in 2002..I get money came out in 2007........that aint luck ***** thats talent at work.Why cant you just admitthat The GZA is hating.....P Diddy cant write a rhyme .Baby cant write a fukking Rhyme .50 writes all his rhymes yet he has no talent and n1ggas like you i sco signing a blatant LIE cause yall love the Come do me n1gga???????

what exactly were you listing to in 1984.T la Rock its yours???

[galvatron]

You make some good points but the difference between GZA Come Do Me and 50's Ayo Technology is that 50 absolutely embraces making sh!tty pop records because he thinks that thats what sells. But it doesn't. He had a better chance selling more records than he did if he actually put out great hip hop like Kanye did. **** Ayo Technology. **** Candy Shop. Fvck Amusement Park ( I actually like that sh!t). Fvck Just a Lil Bit. When 50 keeps it straight hood is when he's at his best.
Now listen - I LOVE GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN. A mufvckin classic, in my opinion. But you tryna say Liquid Swords ain't better is just some jackass sh!t. Liquid Swords is hands and shoulders better. Rhymes, beats everything. GZA is just a better MC and what he and RZA brung to the table on that album can't be fvcked wit by anything 50 put out IN HIS CAREER.
People should be more concerned wit the dissention within Wu than bein GZA sayin callin 50 untalented. You right. But come on now. SOHH is SOHH. The only timed cats is concerned about n!ggas is when they embroiled in some beef or say something that may lead to beef.
best songs on liquid swords were as follows
Labels
duel of the iron mic
4th chamber
shadow boxing
investigative reports

all are collabos cept for labels

5 great songs does not make a classic cd

gza IS A GREAT LYRICIST BUT LETS NOT RE WRITE HISTORY BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC YEAR WU HAD IN 1995

[Trojanman]

another major problem I have is that you got some n1ggas in here telling me that Liquid swords is better than GRODT.......based on what????????????.....liquid swords best songs were the collaborations.....Cuban links was a better cd
I cant stand this NEW AGE revisionist history going on.....I hate ayo technology but I wont acknowledge that GZA mada song and video for COME do me.While you n1ggas hate on AYP Technology yall dont have sh1t to say about Fully loaded clip,Curtis 187,Man Down,My Gun go off??????????????????
FACT there has not beeen a thread made about the GZA in MANY YEARS and all of a sudden his disses 50 and SOHH is in heaven.What SOHH should be concerned about is that fact that Ghost anmd Rae think the new WU cd is garbage.
At the end of the day here are FACTS
the no talent having 50 just came off a very successful tour around the world and will now start promoting a movie with Pacino and Deniro..Hows that for a no talent n1gga.
only 3 rappers in 2007 went platinum...none have gone Double.T.I and Kanye and 50(not JAY Z)
Come do me is a new jack swing BITE of I get the job done by big daddy Kane
aint no n1gga on this site more about the wu than I do or have as much wu material as I have but they are bitter fukking haters and have been like that since DAY one ..sine Rae and Ghost was hating on BIG.

somebody hurt.

being rich and having mtv and outlets on your d!ck cause they make more money off of you than you do off yourself ain't saying sh!t. you getting paid BUT you still their slave.

50 got lucky. he got lucky that his gimmick along with his sh!t connected at the right time for him to take off. i remember when he first started off.. you more than likely didn't know who he was galvy. dude was talking about robbing folks, he got airplay for that sh!t and nothing else. his sh!t only came out as a EP and he got shot up afterwards. he disappeared and tried to come back off that underground scene sh!t with stretch armstrong playing his sh!t @ midnight, early monday morning. i liked his sh!t @ first cause he had that hater/what i thought was trill talk @ the time but his new sh!t to me was weak. eventually when i stopped f*cking with his music, people start jocking his sh!t hard as hell and boom grodt comes out. dudes on top of the world, i'll admit i was happy for him cause i wanted him to blow up in 99 BUT he didn't BUT he was weak though.

and another thing too.. dude knows his sh!t is weak. he knows it. he knows he dumbed down to blow the f*ck up. now he's on top of the world, he's trying to do some sociopathic sh!t like marlo stanfield and take over the whole rap sh!t when he done f*cked it up for himself by oversaturating himself with the video games, the movies, the water, the commercials, the music and sh!t. he played himself out. dude better start putting himself in another position where he can cake off something else cause he ain't gonna make anymore money off of rap and he will get dropped if he starts dropping bricks even with his g-unit sh!t. all those rappers signed and dropping no albums. i'm NO 50 fan either, i USED to be way back.


as for gza, dude's the motherf*cking legend. you gotta respect him. dude is the reason why folks is lyrical and sh!t. he's one of the FEW people that pretty much keeps this rap game alive. you know... people used to see through gimmicks and wack ass rappers back then cause of him. he drops the sh!t 50 WISHES he could drop. you know 50 owes some gza albums. he prolly cried when he heard his idol sh!t on him. gza may NOT be on 50's status of the fame and sh!t BUT 50 wishes he had the amount of respect he has and earned the respect the way he earned it.

[Boola Bless]

best songs on liquid swords were as follows
Labels
duel of the iron mic
4th chamber
shadow boxing
investigative reports
all are collabos cept for labels
5 great songs does not make a classic cd
gza IS A GREAT LYRICIST BUT LETS NOT RE WRITE HISTORY BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC YEAR WU HAD IN 1995

Rewrite history??? Have you been living under a rock? Liquid Swords is a certified hip hop CLASSIC. And its been called one almost immediately after it dropped. What is you talking bout, Lester?

[galvatron]

somebody hurt.
being rich and having mtv and outlets on your d!ck cause they make more money off of you than you do off yourself ain't saying sh!t. you getting paid BUT you still their slave.
50 got lucky. he got lucky that his gimmick along with his sh!t connected at the right time for him to take off. i remember when he first started off.. you more than likely didn't know who he was galvy. dude was talking about robbing folks, he got airplay for that sh!t and nothing else. his sh!t only came out as a EP and he got shot up afterwards. he disappeared and tried to come back off that underground scene sh!t with stretch armstrong playing his sh!t @ midnight, early monday morning. i liked his sh!t @ first cause he had that hater/what i thought was trill talk @ the time but his new sh!t to me was weak. eventually when i stopped f*cking with his music, people start jocking his sh!t hard as hell and boom grodt comes out. dudes on top of the world, i'll admit i was happy for him cause i wanted him to blow up in 99 BUT he didn't BUT he was weak though.
and another thing too.. dude knows his sh!t is weak. he knows it. he knows he dumbed down to blow the f*ck up. now he's on top of the world, he's trying to do some sociopathic sh!t like marlo stanfield and take over the whole rap sh!t when he done f*cked it up for himself by oversaturating himself with the video games, the movies, the water, the commercials, the music and sh!t. he played himself out. dude better start putting himself in another position where he can cake off something else cause he ain't gonna make anymore money off of rap and he will get dropped if he starts dropping bricks even with his g-unit sh!t. all those rappers signed and dropping no albums. i'm NO 50 fan either, i USED to be way back.
as for gza, dude's the motherf*cking legend. you gotta respect him. dude is the reason why folks is lyrical and sh!t. he's one of the FEW people that pretty much keeps this rap game alive. you know... people used to see through gimmicks and wack ass rappers back then cause of him. he drops the sh!t 50 WISHES he could drop. you know 50 owes some gza albums. he prolly cried when he heard his idol sh!t on him. gza may NOT be on 50's status of the fame and sh!t BUT 50 wishes he had the amount of respect he has and earned the respect the way he earned it.
why is GZA a legend because he been in the game for 18 years and has 1 gold album?
so no to be a legen in hiphop all you have to do is be a vet.I guess ED o>G is a legend to since you throwing out the term with liberaly.50 is not a gimmick you dumb fukk.a gimmick does not have longevity.Das efx was a gimmick.Kriss kross was a gimmick.Consistensy in hiphop is based on hard work and talent.Yall n1gga talking about liquid sword but I dont hear sh1t about Beneath the surface or legend of the liquid sword?why is that?Yall n1ggas cant fool me I am a hiphop historian and yall cant re write history.50 has had a bigger impact in hiphop and on the culture than GZA has ever had.He has brought hiphop to more places on earth than the GZA.GZA is in a CREW where he got outshined by Meth,ODB,RZA,Ghost and RAE.......the best MC usually gets the most shine.I am a GZA fan but I refuse to allow him to LIE and say 50 has no talent.You think GZA dont own some 50 albums????????"I know you 40 years old but go to store for me"

[galvatron]

Rewrite history??? Have you been living under a rock? Liquid Swords is a certified hip hop CLASSIC. And its been called one almost immediately after it dropped. What is you talking bout, Lester?
and GRODT aint a classic lil n1gga..the number one haters the lox themselves have called it a classic

Get Rich or die trying was a classic"shots fired jada kiss and Styles p

n1gga do not sit here and say GRODT is not a classic...do not tell me you was not alive in 2003 and saw the impact and how everybody who was into hiphop copped GRODT.....I dont give a fukk if you like GZA better but dont even try to say GRODT wasnt a classic.

FACT swords was not better than Cuban Links

[Boola Bless]

and GRODT aint a classic lil n1gga..the number one haters the lox themselves have called it a classic
Get Rich or die trying was a classic"shots fired jada kiss and Styles p
n1gga do not sit here and say GRODT is not a classic...do not tell me you was not alive in 2003 and saw the impact and how everybody who was into hiphop copped GRODT.....I dont give a fukk if you like GZA better but dont even try to say GRODT wasnt a classic.
FACT swords was not better than Cuban Links

N!gga, do u READ. Read mufvcka. I said I thought GRODT was a classic. I love that album. And 50 Cent does have talent. He's just not nowhere near the level a MC that GZA is. Bottom line. And you makin yourself look like an ass tyrna argue that Liquid Swords ain't a classic. Just quit, G. Quit.

By the way - "lil n!gga" is exactly something you would say to me in person that would get your head slapped off. Looks good on a computer screen tho, right? Makes you seem tough. I like that. Pvssy ass n!gga.

[galvatron]

N!gga, do u READ. Read mufvcka. I said I thought GRODT was a classic. I love that album. And 50 Cent does have talent. He's just not nowhere near the level a MC that GZA is. Bottom line. And you makin yourself look like an ass tyrna argue that Liquid Swords ain't a classic. Just quit, G. Quit.

By the way - "lil n!gga" is exactly something you would say to me in person that would get your head slapped off. Looks good on a computer screen tho, right? Makes you seem tough. I like that. Pvssy ass n!gga.
GZA said 50 has no talent...thats my only point...to prove GZA is hating

[Rzarector7]

why is GZA a legend because he been in the game for 18 years and has 1 gold album?
so no to be a legen in hiphop all you have to do is be a vet.I guess ED o>G is a legend to since you throwing out the term with liberaly.50 is not a gimmick you dumb fukk.a gimmick does not have longevity.Das efx was a gimmick.Kriss kross was a gimmick.Consistensy in hiphop is based on hard work and talent.Yall n1gga talking about liquid sword but I dont hear sh1t about Beneath the surface or legend of the liquid sword?why is that?Yall n1ggas cant fool me I am a hiphop historian and yall cant re write history.50 has had a bigger impact in hiphop and on the culture than GZA has ever had.He has brought hiphop to more places on earth than the GZA.GZA is in a CREW where he got outshined by Meth,ODB,RZA,Ghost and RAE.......the best MC usually gets the most shine.I am a GZA fan but I refuse to allow him to LIE and say 50 has no talent.You think GZA dont own some 50 albums????????"I know you 40 years old but go to store for me"Liquid was near plat, and Beneath got 700k or so, he has two gold albums mayne :D BTW Gza did not get outshined by those guys on their cuts, he usually ate them fukkin cats along with Deck, hell Deck bodied them cats and did too alot of times. Deck nearly had ONE gold album and he bodied them daily on cuts, does that make him any less of a rapper too?

[realcrusader]

50 couldnt even answer the Game, The fukk he gonna say about GZA?


He has answered Game, Game makes 50 money, 50 said he don't want to ruin his money.

[Carver]

I'm done with this forum.

In general, you people:

1) hate on Lupe Fiasco for having creative concepts for songs
2) hate on rappers for "using big words"
3) hate on MF Doom for wearing a mask (it's that much more ridiculous than jeans eight sizes too big?)
4) hate on rappers for being 30 or over (no other fans of any genre of music do this, especially in rock, by far the most popular and revered musical genre)
5) and now, people are saying 50's "Get Rich or Die Trying" is a classic CD?

:laugh:

No wonder the most popular thread here is about eating sh*t. Y'all have fun. Good luck with the GED's and internet thuggin'.

[Rzarector7]

He has answered Game, Game makes 50 money, 50 said he don't want to ruin his money.
Yeah he sure as hell did answer the game on tracks or come near GAMES tracks.... I truly believe heads just stick up for their favorites, Game ate dude and he comes back on some I make money shyt and then you think he answered him? He knows he can't beat game at rapping one bit, so he resorts to that. The truth is 50 picks and chooses his battles, if he could lose badly he just says I make more money or some other b.s., he knows better...... Game ATE DUDE UP.

[hexagram23]

stop frontimg like I am knowledgeable about Rap?.....I have seen GZA live at the new music seminar in the early 90s before wu even thought about putting they money together to make a cheap video for protect your neck...n1gga I am 35 years old and I have been listening to hiphop all my goddamn life.there aint a fukking thing a n1gga like you can tell me about wu or hiphop.The GZA is plain wrong for saying 50 has no talent.Hooks the ability to write songs is not a talent.Ghostwriting for other rappers is not a talent.A one hit wonder gets lucky....but How to rob came out in 1999....Wangsta came out in 2002..I get money came out in 2007........that aint luck ***** thats talent at work.Why cant you just admitthat The GZA is hating.....P Diddy cant write a rhyme .Baby cant write a fukking Rhyme .50 writes all his rhymes yet he has no talent and n1ggas like you i sco signing a blatant LIE cause yall love the Come do me n1gga???????
what exactly were you listing to in 1984.T la Rock its yours???

"It's Yours"....RUN DMC....Grandmaster Flash....The Sugarhill Gang....all that sh*t. My family is originally from NY so I had all that sh*t more or less the moment it dropped, here in MO.

Anyway, that's besides the point.

I wouldn't say 50 is untalented....but it could be argued he doesn't have much talent.

Everything you talk about as "talent" was molded by Em and Dre....notice nobody gave a f*ck about 50 prior to "GRODT"....he was just another bummy NY mixtape rapper. He wasn't going anywhere until Em gave him a shot....he didn't have a "hit" record either. The closest he had to hits was "How To Rob", "Be A Gentleman" and "Ghetto Qu'ran".

All the fame came after Em and Dre taught him how to make hits....and he's been basically reciting the same exact songs since "GRODT"....he ain't said sh*t new since "P.I.M.P" or "Wanksta"....he's just been making different versions of those same songs....only now they ain't really selling that much. People are tired of the same old sh*t from him...that's why he lost like 6 million fans in the last year and a half.

Lastly, how is Gza hating? Yayo dissed Ghost....50 said "Wu is irrelevant"....why the f*ck would Gza hold his tongue for 50? If this is hating to you what the hell do you call 50's career, that's thrived on childish drama and name-calling since he came into the rap game?

And for the LAST TIME, get off the "Come Do Me" sh*t....the song is 17 f*cking years old...."Candy Shop", "Ayo Technology" and all these other dumb ass soft songs ya boy and his team made are RECENT.

Fred.

[baltimore]

Everything you talk about as "talent" was molded by Em and Dre....notice nobody gave a f*ck about 50 prior to "GRODT"....he was just another bummy NY mixtape rapper. He wasn't going anywhere until Em gave him a shot....he didn't have a "hit" record either. The closest he had to hits was "How To Rob", "Be A Gentleman" and "Ghetto Qu'ran".
All the fame came after Em and Dre taught him how to make hits....and he's been basically reciting the same exact songs since "GRODT"....he ain't said sh*t new since "P.I.M.P" or "Wanksta"....he's just been making different versions of those same songs....only now they ain't really selling that much. People are tired of the same old sh*t from him...that's why he lost like 6 million fans in the last year and a half.

lol, dude you exposing yourself.. 50 had headlines everywhere about the bidding war for him before he signed to Shady Aftermath, look the articles up, it got up to like 1.7 mill from someone else and he took 1 mill from em and dre thinking it would be the best move. He had his choice between like 5 major labels. You making shyt up.

Em and Dre taught him how to make hits? wtf, when has Em or Dre made a 50 type hit? Look at their singles and look at 50's.. They were there for the co signage and production, lol @ eminem the same dude that has the worst singles ever teaching 50 how to write club hits.. You reaching homie

[hexagram23]

He has answered Game, Game makes 50 money, 50 said he don't want to ruin his money.

50 copped out man. He knew he lost and his team was getting f*cked up so he brought up something that didn't have anything to do with the situation at hand. Even if he's making money off Game, the dude was in 50's hood posting "G-UNOT" banners and sh*t....I don't even like Game really but he got at 50 something fierce, and 50 once again couldn't do sh*t but talk about money....ya stans are calling you a boss and you can't even stop someone from another COAST from coming into your hood disrespecting you. :dry:

Man I seriously hope 50 is never broke. Real talk. Dude will probably commit suicide because of all the "money" sh*t he's talked over the years....we seen a glimpse of this when "Curtis" flopped and he was throwing around flatscreens and cell phones like a 5 year old.

Fred.

[hexagram23]

lol, dude you exposing yourself.. 50 had headlines everywhere about the bidding war for him before he signed to Shady Aftermath, look the articles up, it got up to like 1.7 mill from someone else and he took 1 mill from em and dre thinking it would be the best move. He had his choice between like 5 major labels. You making shyt up.
Em and Dre taught him how to make hits? wtf, when has Em or Dre made a 50 type hit? Look at their singles and look at 50's.. They were there for the co signage and production, lol @ eminem the same dude that has the worst singles ever teaching 50 how to write club hits.. You reaching homie

Hmmmm....let's see....why was there a bidding war going on? Hmmm.....oh yeah.....because Em mentioned him as a "favorite of mine" and showed interest in signing him. Prior to that the industry had ZERO interest in him, he had just gotten dropped from a record label and his album got shelved.

PLEASE try to prove me wrong. Seriously, do it. I dare you.

And if Em and Dre didn't teach him how to make hits, where the f*ck was "In Da Club" and "Wanksta" BEFORE they came into the picture? Dude was off the rap radar, nobody cared about him, and there sure as f*ck wasn't a bidding war going on considering the industry "blacklisted" him after he got shot.

Fred.

[bigesco]

best songs on liquid swords were as follows
Labels
duel of the iron mic
4th chamber
shadow boxing
investigative reports
all are collabos cept for labels
5 great songs does not make a classic cd
gza IS A GREAT LYRICIST BUT LETS NOT RE WRITE HISTORY BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC YEAR WU HAD IN 1995

Dude yousa a ***git, u know gza is better than 50 quit lyin to urself.

[baltimore]

Hmmmm....let's see....why was there a bidding war going on? Hmmm.....oh yeah.....because Em mentioned him as a "favorite of mine" and showed interest in signing him. Prior to that the industry had ZERO interest in him, he had just gotten dropped from a record label and his album got shelved.

PLEASE try to prove me wrong. Seriously, do it. I dare you.

And if Em and Dre didn't teach him how to make hits, where the f*ck was "In Da Club" and "Wanksta" BEFORE they came into the picture? Dude was off the rap radar, nobody cared about him.

Fred.

lol, first he just a bummy mixtape rapper until Em gave him a shot now its Em started a bidding war with him saying he was a favorite.. Get outta here, yeah em mentioned him but 50 had been had the mixtapes on lock, been had crazy buzz, and no one gets offers of 1.7 from universal, jive, etc from just being Em's favorite regardless.

SMH, who makes In Da Club off trackmasters beats in 99? HUH? This is 03 when he is going off a Dre beat and 99 when he was on trackmaster beats, this is totally different times. Em makes the silliest opposite music of 50 so he damn sure aint tell him how to make a hit and Dre gets ghostwrote for so how he telling people how to make hits??? Prove that wrong Missouri.. You got some hate in your blood

[hexagram23]

lol, first he just a bummy mixtape rapper until Em gave him a shot now its Em started a bidding war with him saying he was a favorite.. Get outta here, yeah em mentioned him but 50 had been had the mixtapes on lock, been had crazy buzz, and no one gets offers of 1.7 from universal, jive, etc from just being Em's favorite regardless.
SMH, who makes In Da Club off trackmasters beats in 99? HUH? This is 03 when he is going off a Dre beat and 99 when he was on trackmaster beats, this is totally different times. Em makes the silliest opposite music of 50 so he damn sure aint tell him how to make a hit and Dre gets ghostwrote for so how he telling people how to make hits??? Prove that wrong Missouri.. You got some hate in your blood

Lil homie just admit you wasn't into rap when this sh*t was going on....

You can't link up NOTHING....not ONE article, snippet, news story, proving anything you're saying. Why? Because the sh*t is fantasy.

Do you seriously want to do this man? Because I can link up all sorts of sh*t showing he was BLACKLISTED and the industry wasn't f*cking with him BEFORE EM NAME DROPPED HIM. All the bidding sh*t came AFTER THAT....why the hell would someone drop 1.7 M on a rapper that had just gotten shot, dropped from his label, and his album shelved? Because he dropped a few hot mixtapes? Use your brain man, that ain't what happened, and if you think it is you obviously wasn't into rap back then.

As far as the "who makes In Da Club off Trackmasters in '99"....you're missing the point. Dude had no mainstream appeal, at all, in '99. He was a hot new mixtape rapper....that's it. Any mainstream fame, success, money, etc. he got off rap he got AFTER Em and Dre stared f*cking with him. I'm not literally asking "where was In Da Club" in '99, I'm asking "where was those type hits for him?". All he had was the 3 songs I named, and all 3 were only popular because of the controversy around them.

Fred.

[STORMTROOPER©]

Video- RE UP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsR7qbX_CqI

[STORMTROOPER©]

can't wait to see how 50 reponds...

[baltimore]

Lil homie just admit you wasn't into rap when this sh*t was going on....
You can't link up NOTHING....not ONE article, snippet, news story, proving anything you're saying. Why? Because the sh*t is fantasy.
Do you seriously want to do this man? Because I can link up all sorts of sh*t showing he was BLACKLISTED and the industry wasn't f*cking with him BEFORE EM NAME DROPPED HIM. All the bidding sh*t came AFTER THAT....why the hell would someone drop 1.7 M on a rapper that had just gotten shot, dropped from his label, and his album shelved? Because he dropped a few hot mixtapes? Use your brain man, that ain't what happened, and if you think it is you obviously wasn't into rap back then.
As far as the "who makes In Da Club off Trackmasters in '99"....you're missing the point. Dude had no mainstream appeal, at all, in '99. He was a hot new mixtape rapper....that's it. Any mainstream fame, success, money, etc. he got off rap he got AFTER Em and Dre stared f*cking with him. I'm not literally asking "where was In Da Club" in '99, I'm asking "where was those type hits for him?". All he had was the 3 songs I named, and all 3 were only popular because of the controversy around them.
Fred.

Missouri, i was living in Fordham Towers in 99 son son, I said in my fukkin post that the bidding came after Em name dropped him in a interview but a name drop doesn't = 1.7 mill homie. Be fukkin smart. He been had buzz, mixtapes on lock, 50's greatest hits, etc before he even signed to anyone. Why was Wu, Jay, etc all beefing with a dude that aint have any buzz? You dead wrong missouri

I know what you meant missouri. I also know that Em, Dre or whoever else you want to credit didn't teach 50 how to make hits, stop the hate. In 99 lyrical street tracks was selling, so thats what he was putting out. In 03 it was different and he dropped In Da Club. Go back and think of someone else you can contribute with his buzz or hit making ability...

[Afrrikan Rennaisance]

"I shoot a hole through a 50 cent piece to test my aim" - Masta Killa from 2001

[baltimore]

"I shoot a hole through a 50 cent piece to test my aim" - Masta Killa from 2001

"Heard ghost album them niccas talking that dumb shyt
Duke, I got a shell for every dust head you run wit" - 50 Cent

[Reggie Jams]

"Heard ghost album them niccas talking that dumb shyt
Duke, I got a shell for every dust head you run wit" - 50 Cent

ghostface would smash his azz

ya phoney azz hoe b!tch

[da illest niccas son]

gza is garbage :gag: fuk is this old man bickerin on about?? :laugh: :laugh:

this old dirty no swag having ***git probably :mad: nobody showed up to his concert

[MACADO]

damn aint soulja boy 16. Not a good look for grown men to hate this dude. Hate on the stations that play this **** 30 times a day

[hexagram23]

Missouri, i was living in Fordham Towers in 99 son son, I said in my fukkin post that the bidding came after Em name dropped him in a interview but a name drop doesn't = 1.7 mill homie. Be fukkin smart. He been had buzz, mixtapes on lock, 50's greatest hits, etc before he even signed to anyone. Why was Wu, Jay, etc all beefing with a dude that aint have any buzz? You dead wrong missouri
I know what you meant missouri. I also know that Em, Dre or whoever else you want to credit didn't teach 50 how to make hits, stop the hate. In 99 lyrical street tracks was selling, so thats what he was putting out. In 03 it was different and he dropped In Da Club. Go back and think of someone else you can contribute with his buzz or hit making ability...

He had buzz, mixtapes on lock, and 50's greatest hits IN NY. Nobody else gave a f*ck about 50 until Em mentioned him....he was Uncle Murder, Saigon, Papoose status.

And for the 3rd time, you have zero proof to back up anything you are talking about....do you seriously want me to make you look stupid? Don't make me do it to you man.

A name drop from Em, who was at the height of his career, is damn sure worth 1.7 M....why the hell do you think nobody was throwing money at 50 BEFORE that? You seriously think it was a big ass coincidence that labels brought the money out, right as Em showed interest?

You seriously think the labels were offering money to an NY based mixtape rapper who got dropped from his label with NO album out? Just because he had some local mixtapes? Especially when 50 himself said he was "blacklisted" from the industry right after his shooting?

Don't make me do it man....

Lastly, nobody "beefed" with him....Pun threw 1 line at him....Jay threw one line at him....Wu threw a line and a skit at him....you're making it seem like they all recorded disses and sh*t. He was an underground bum at the time, 50 even admitted "my career might not even be where it is at today, if people like Jay hadn't responded to me"....from Rolling Stone magazine. Why would he say that, if he was in such a good place with his career back then?

Like I said, I got maaaaaaaad interviews, etc. straight from 50, Em, etc. proving all the sh*t I'm saying. Just stop man.

Fred.

[HiphopDude420]

I'm so hard homie'

And I

Swear to god homie'

50 Cent'll still bet his ****ing blackcard on me n1gga




ewwww game

thats a gross quotable :violent::violent::violent::violent::ninja_1:

[sickdogg]

GZA spittin the truth

[baltimore]

He had buzz, mixtapes on lock, and 50's greatest hits IN NY. Nobody else gave a f*ck about 50 until Em mentioned him....he was Uncle Murder, Saigon, Papoose status.

And for the 3rd time, you have zero proof to back up anything you are talking about....do you seriously want me to make you look stupid? Don't make me do it to you man.

A name drop from Em, who was at the height of his career, is damn sure worth 1.7 M....why the hell do you think nobody was throwing money at 50 BEFORE that? You seriously think it was a big ass coincidence that labels brought the money out, right as Em showed interest?

You seriously think the labels were offering money to an NY based mixtape rapper who got dropped from his label with NO album out? Just because he had some local mixtapes? Especially when 50 himself said he was "blacklisted" from the industry right after his shooting?

Don't make me do it man....

Lastly, nobody "beefed" with him....Pun threw 1 line at him....Jay threw one line at him....Wu threw a line and a skit at him....you're making it seem like they all recorded disses and sh*t. He was an underground bum at the time, 50 even admitted "my career might not even be where it is at today, if people like Jay hadn't responded to me"....from Rolling Stone magazine. Why would he say that, if he was in such a good place with his career back then?

Like I said, I got maaaaaaaad interviews, etc. straight from 50, Em, etc. proving all the sh*t I'm saying. Just stop man.

Fred.

lol @ you not saying anything.. Em = 1.7..? You acting like if he would have said drag on, sauce money, mcgruff, juelz or whoever else was in the mixtape scene at the time they would have got the 1.7 mill offers as well, stop fukkin talking stupid.

WTF are you saying i have no proof? What do you need me to prove? Dre and Em have made club hits like in da club before? Have you heard Ass like that? Dre has ghost writers, how he teaching club hits 101?

Proof you dont make In Da club in 98/99 when people are going 5 times plat off Money cash hoes and nicca what??? Just give it up, all thread you sounded stupid

Just stfu about making someone else look stupid.. wtf, you saying the same shyt i am about getting responded to, obviously he's not getting the same responses if he was the bum you claim.. I followed shyt since way before 50, you either making shyt up or trying to relive shyt through mtv archives

Either he wasn't big enough to be known in missouri and you dont know what the fukk you talking about or he was big enough to be known in bama ass missouri and you fukkin contradicting yourself

[galvatron]

damn aint soulja boy 16. Not a good look for grown men to hate this dude. Hate on the stations that play this **** 30 times a day
this is why his whole rant was weak.Souljaboy is for the kids and he hating like the bitter 43 years old n1gga that he is