Do yall even care that Jay-Z fabricated his past? New Dehaven interview.

[RandyBodek]

In the video for his new hit single “Roc Boys (And the Winner Is),” Jay talks about a crew of Marcy hustlers called the Roc Boys. Were you a Roc Boy?

I have no idea what a Roc Boy is, actually. I guess that’s something new that they’re coming up with now. There was no crew back in ’88; it was just me and him, so I don’t know how he got “Roc Boys.”

How did you and Jay meet?

We lived in the same building, on the same floor in the Marcy projects, and we went to [elementary] school together. He was a year ahead of me.

What was he like back then?

He was hanging with some “school”guys. Nerds! We didn’t get together actually until after the fifth grade, in intermediary school. We played baseball and basketball. He wasn’t tough on the court at all. He didn’t like physical ball. He was the same type of guy then as he is now, just a cool guy. He wasn’t no bully, he didn’t start no trouble.

Did you and Jay sell drugs together?

No, he ain’t do much selling drugs. I did all that work. He was just a good dude to be around. He was one of my best friends. I taught him some things, but I mainly kept him from being out on the street a lot. Whatever was mine was his. So, we shared clothes, we shared a whole bunch of stuff. We had sex with the same women plenty of times. We both got burnt! We had the drip. My mom took him to the clinic. My mom also got him out of jail.

Does Jay exaggerate his drug-dealing in his songs?

I’m telling you he overexaggerates. He was there to see things, but doing some big-time Frank Lucas–type thing? No. He nickled and dimed, but nothing on a major scale. He definitely didn’t sell nothin’ in Marcy. Spanish Jose, who he mentions a lot [in his songs], was a friend of mine. Jay didn’t have no affiliation to Spanish Jose.

You’re saying Jay appropriated your story?
He says it himself. He’s been talking about me since day one, on a lot of his albums. He mentioned me on The Black Album, and I hadn’t seen him in years.

After Marcy, the two of you headed to Trenton.

Yeah. I wasn’t going to school. My basketball coach in high school recommended me to go to Trenton High, which had a great basketball program. I moved to Trenton in ’88, and it was just like an open drug market out there. I couldn’t even focus on the basketball when I saw that market. So I got settled in there. I went back to New York and talked to Jay. He wasn’t doing nothing, he didn’t have no money in his pocket, he wasn’t feeling school, neither, so I asked if he wanted to come live with me. We moved in with my aunt, who accepted him as my best friend. In Trenton he started dipping into his music with Jaz-O, so he wasn’t much around, because he had to get back and forth to the studio, which I was funding. I was supporting [his career] with everything I could do. When he needed more people in the crowd, I provided more people in the crowd. When he needed security, I provided security. I supported my dude!



i always knew somethin about jay-z wasn't legit. he aint built for the drug game, son always seemed madd soft to me.

[TheY2DreProblem]

We lived in the same building, on the same floor in the Marcy projects, and we went to [elementary] school together. He was a year ahead of me.


How you older than me? and STILL a little ni99a?

I just wish one interviewer or radio person would have the balls to bring this kinda sh!t up when they have jay on their show. Info needs to replace that old cunt Martinez, her time is up.

[IGOD777]

A lot of people already exposed him. But, it doesn't matter. I doubt that it would've ever mattered.

[Gentility]

no surprise there. same story as every other so-called drug dealing rapper.

with exception to 50 Cent.

[RAZAH CUTS]

This guy sounds disgruntled with the fact that Jay left him behind....I can't front it would hurt if your best homie just went and blew up and left you in the rear view, but that's life man....that's how shiit go....he shoulden't be giving all the details of their previous life, makes him seem desperate and faulty.....

[SUGEKNIGHTJR.]

i wonder what does Dehaven think of Danny "Dollars" Dan (danny dan) cause that's the cat Jay-Z first mentioned on IN MY LIFETIME and plenty of interviews as the cat that really inspired him in the dope game..............good thread...

[Gator]

oh well... at the end of the day....no one is gonna question or harm these already established rappers careers....

[Spade One]

*****z don't care anymore.

[Blackman28]

Jay-Z overexaggerated about his street past? No...you wouldn't say...

[LukeCage888]

Who cares. No one denies Jay sold drugs. The only thing in question is the extent to which he sold drugs. He can rap. Fukk how many drugs he sold.

[Larceny87]

now Jay has power, millions in the bank and is fukkin a bad a$$ b1tch...not to mention goin down as one of the goats if not THE goat

i think i would have rather lived Jay life than Dehaven...fukk a drug dealing past...who's winning now??

[obarth]

Who cares. No one denies Jay sold drugs. The only thing in question is the extent to which he sold drugs. He can rap. Fukk how many drugs he sold.

Basically.

It doesn't effect me one way or another whether Jay was some huge drug kingpin or huge drug kingpin's weed carrier. I'm sorry if you have trouble sleeping at night worrying about just how many kis exactly did dude sell. Jay and any other rapper I am a fan of is merely a source of entertainment to me. Once the headphones come off I'm on with the rest of my life.

[2ndRoundKO]

Damn, DeHaven is stuck in his second childhood. $400 mil later and he still wanna talk about what they did 20 years ago? Dog, get a job and MOVE ON.

How u gon claim YOU - not Jay - was the hustler when you doin videos from Costco and he went from Marcy Projects to meetings with Prince Charles and sh*t. Yall n*ggas don't understand this hustle game.

[SUGEKNIGHTJR.]

it's so common that it's not even a shocking revelation anymore...

almost all these rappers draw thier street tales from some cat that didn't get on the mic, even if they did a little something in the streets themselves, most of thier most dramatic tales are drawn from others:

Young Jeezy = O Dawg
Big Boi = Bubba, Mcarthy The Pimp
Rick Ross = E Class, Boobie
Biggie = Cudda, Un Riveria
Baby = Terrence "Gangster" Williams
Minus P. = SugeKnight JR.

[RandyBodek]

it's so common that it's not even a shocking revelation anymore...
almost all these rappers draw thier street tales from some cat that didn't get on the mic, even if they did a little something in the streets themselves, most of thier most dramatic tales are drawn from others:
Young Jeezy = O Dawg
Big Boi = Bubba, Mcarthy The Pimp
Rick Ross = E Class, Boobie
Biggie = Cudda, Un Riveria
Baby = Terrence "Gangster" Williams
Minus P. = SugeKnight JR.

was UN really doin it like that? that fat penguin shaped ass n!gga was pushin huh? i aint know that.

[Blackman28]

it's so common that it's not even a shocking revelation anymore...
almost all these rappers draw thier street tales from some cat that didn't get on the mic, even if they did a little something in the streets themselves, most of thier most dramatic tales are drawn from others:
Young Jeezy = O Dawg
Big Boi = Bubba, Mcarthy The Pimp
Rick Ross = E Class, Boobie
Biggie = Cudda, Un Riveria
Baby = Terrence "Gangster" Williams
Minus P. = SugeKnight JR.

Nas = Lake, Mega

[SUGEKNIGHTJR.]

Nas = Lake, Mega

right ......or more like

nas= lake, mega, supreme, super ed, alpo, escobar and every damn ethnic kingpin who has made an impression on civilization for the last three decades....

[RiotGang]

this ol head aint gon quit huh?

[LukeCage888]

right ......or more like
nas= lake, mega, supreme, super ed, alpo, escobar and every damn ethnic kingpin who has made an impression on civilization for the last three decades....

Nas is the Martin Scorsese of rap.

[ptahblade07]

no one cares because dehaven and others are about 300 mill,some 40/40 clubs, a clothing line,a yacht,a private jet,and a fine ass chick bit too late from tellin us

how about informing us of this about oh say 12 13 years ago?

now you just sound jealous

it aint like he wasnt talkin about drug dealing back then

[RAZAH CUTS]

it's so common that it's not even a shocking revelation anymore...
almost all these rappers draw thier street tales from some cat that didn't get on the mic, even if they did a little something in the streets themselves, most of thier most dramatic tales are drawn from others:
Young Jeezy = O Dawg
Big Boi = Bubba, Mcarthy The Pimp
Rick Ross = E Class, Boobie
Biggie = Cudda, Un Riveria
Baby = Terrence "Gangster" Williams
Minus P. = SugeKnight JR.


lol, basically....

[Blackman28]

right ......or more like
nas= lake, mega, supreme, super ed, alpo, escobar and every damn ethnic kingpin who has made an impression on civilization for the last three decades....

Yeah I was gonna mention Super Ed as well...man Nas hung out with some grimey ass n1ggas from back in the days.

[RandyBodek]

nas = e-money bags, delorean and lake.

[Larceny87]

Fif= Slim, Prince, Smurf

[RiotGang]

Fif= Slim, Prince, Smurf
u sound stupid:laugh:

[RandyBodek]

Fif= Slim, Prince, Smurf

slim managed 50.
prince had nothing at all to do with 50.
and smurf was 50's lil doja.

what are you talkin about?

[RiotGang]

slim managed 50.
prince had nothing at all to do with 50.
and smurf was 50's lil doja.
what are you talkin about?
n1gga sound stupid right??????...lmao @ prince having sumthin to do wit 50 :laugh:...and smurf was a shooter thats it....n1ggas be killin me man

[fucthat]

Jay-Z was not really like Frank Lucas...u mean to tell me he made a bulk of his money legally? that changes how good his music is,

*forgets that nowadays gossip dictates what makes good music, ignores skill and quality*

**nominates cass + gucci mane as Best Rappers alive cause they talk about it n be about it**

*** Waits for Daheven to drop an album so i can said <dahavens album>. >>> AG***

[reddog271]

It's funny people are so quick to believe Dehaven..... where does his credibility comes from?

[Clem]

They don't care that 2Pac arguably the most visible rapper of all time was on stage was dancing in neon colored thongs--so I'd say it's a safe bet they're not going to care about Jay.

There's no ROC Boys and also Jay, Diddy, and Nas aren't crime bosses either. Shock.

[slimturner99]

FATALITY!!!!!!!!!!


Now where are all those Jay stans validating the AG concept by saying 'he just talking about his past".

F*ck out of here, Jay stans mad so they attack Dehaven the person, and not his message.

Jay is a fraud, and he continues to fraudulently mimic an imaginary character that he knows his supporters think he is.

Jay and his fans lost.

[Puerto Rican Gary]

i wonder what does Dehaven think of Danny "Dollars" Dan (danny dan) cause that's the cat Jay-Z first mentioned on IN MY LIFETIME and plenty of interviews as the cat that really inspired him in the dope game..............good thread...
He's dead who cares what anyone thinks of him

[NotSoft]

Nikka got money from somewhere...i find it hard to believe a dude who wuznt doin "no work" u just let live wit u and hang around durin drug deals or that any nikka would just hang out wit u while u sell drugs everday and see u gettin paid and not get down.

[Puerto Rican Gary]

Nikka got money from somewhere...i find it hard to believe a dude who wuznt doin "no work" u just let live wit u and hang around durin drug deals or that any nikka would just hang out wit u while u sell drugs everday and see u gettin paid and not get down.
he said he was a nickel and dimer like everybody else, no weight mover.

[Easy-E]

How did you and Jay meet?
We lived in the same building, on the same floor in the Marcy projects, and we went to [elementary] school together. He was a year ahead of me.
Did you and Jay sell drugs together?
No, he ain’t do much selling drugs. I did all that work. He was just a good dude to be around. He was one of my best friends. I taught him some things, but I mainly kept him from being out on the street a lot. Whatever was mine was his. So, we shared clothes, we shared a whole bunch of stuff. We had sex with the same women plenty of times. We both got burnt! We had the drip. My mom took him to the clinic. My mom also got him out of jail.


:dry: DeHaven sounds too damn bitter for me to give a damn....

What happened to Sohh.com not caring bout Jay's dealin' past...

Only white boys worrying about Jay "hustling career"... :dry:

Who really cares bout his drug dealing past? I never hear him braggin bout it off wax, like Jim Ones claims to be hard body, but his crew get escorted(ran :dry:) around New-York like the Pope.

To me if they ain't over-conpensating (DVD's, threatenin' to kill cats on the radio,etc.) all that matters is the music

[Freekey Zeekey]

You ain't live it
You witnessed what your friend did
scribbled in your notepad and created your life

[SUGEKNIGHTJR.]

Are you fukking serious?


you're by far the biggest clown on this site. Not to mention, I also refuse to believe you are a black man from the inner city.

And not because of this post, but of most of them.

i gives a fukk what you think........you need to be thinking of your nappyface daughter..

it's christmas time hoe............gottdamn BK cat who thinks he's from the 5th ward......

you're a jigaboo......... :laugh:

[LukeCage888]

Nikka got money from somewhere...i find it hard to believe a dude who wuznt doin "no work" u just let live wit u and hang around durin drug deals or that any nikka would just hang out wit u while u sell drugs everday and see u gettin paid and not get down.

Not that I even care about this childish gossip column bullshyt, but in the interest of accuracy, Jay-Z definitely was more than a nickel and dime hustler. I'm from the Tidewater area of VA and when I was in middle school I distintcly remember hearing older nyggas talking about the "In My Lifetime nygga that used to rap with Jaz" moving work. He wasn't no damn Frank Lucas, but he wasn't a nickel and dimer either. I don't care what you nerds saw on YouTube or some gossip website, I have heard real street nyggas who had no reason to lie attest to the fact that Jay-Z used to move weight, and this was before he was a star rapper.

[bladescar]

Um Aint This The Same Dude Who Said He Saved Jay When Jay Lost 30 Bricks? Dehaven Makes No Sense

[El Jefe]

it's so common that it's not even a shocking revelation anymore...
almost all these rappers draw thier street tales from some cat that didn't get on the mic, even if they did a little something in the streets themselves, most of thier most dramatic tales are drawn from others:
Young Jeezy = O Dawg
Big Boi = Bubba, Mcarthy The Pimp
Rick Ross = E Class, Boobie
Biggie = Cudda, Un Riveria
Baby = Terrence "Gangster" Williams
Minus P. = SugeKnight JR.

e class n gucci hold rick down in miami .. that bein said both have a good business mind they aint juss sum street huztlers who happened to be around a rapper ..

[Easy-E]

They don't care that 2Pac arguably the most visible rapper of all time was on stage was dancing in neon colored thongs--so I'd say it's a safe bet they're not going to care about Jay.

There's no ROC Boys and also Jay, Diddy, and Nas aren't crime bosses either. Shock.
:laugh:

Atleast we know who was hurt the most when the 'Roc Boys' vid debuted

:laugh: at this n*gga takin' it to heart

CON-CEPT (look it up in google)=fairy tales

Jay said it himself, the album was pure fiction, just entertainment, that ignorant sh*t y'all want

:confused: off topic...

But, y'all dropin alot of names of drug dealers....ain't that snitchin

[grock2727]

Basically.
It doesn't effect me one way or another whether Jay was some huge drug kingpin or huge drug kingpin's weed carrier. I'm sorry if you have trouble sleeping at night worrying about just how many kis exactly did dude sell. Jay and any other rapper I am a fan of is merely a source of entertainment to me. Once the headphones come off I'm on with the rest of my life.

Brilliant, these cats get caught up in rappers personal lives something ridiculous, real hip hop fans should pay attention to the music and that's it, like Jay said himself:

"So don't believe everything your earlobe captures; it's mostly backwards
Unless it happens to be as accurate as me
And everything said in song you happen to see
Then, actually, believe half of what you see
None of what you hear, even if it's spat by me
And with that said, I will kill *****z dead"

he's spelling it out for yall, some of yall are just too stupid to get it.

[Crazy_Serbian]

interviewer and dehaven are stupid:dry: for talking that "roc boys" song/video concept literally:huh:

[Crazy_Serbian]

actually interviewer is his stupid friend asking him stupid questions, who the fukk would interview him

[Kingest Kong]

"So fukk DeHaven for cavin/Thats why we don't speak/Made men aren't supposed to make statements"

At the end of the day Jay is sittin on 400 mill and DeHaven sounds like a crying b*tch. Just move on dude. Jay did you dirty, we understand. This guy is workin these interviews and videos like a professional hoe.

[East st and ave]

Really no one gives a damn about what this dude is saying. This aint 96 we cats might of still cared

[Piffstopher Walken]

ok if dehaven is 38, and jay is one year older than him
that would make jay 39


Ether Day Coming Soon

[Piffstopher Walken]

"So fukk DeHaven for cavin/Thats why we don't speak/Made men aren't supposed to make statements"
At the end of the day Jay is sittin on 400 mill and DeHaven sounds like a crying b*tch. Just move on dude. Jay did you dirty, we understand. This guy is workin these interviews and videos like a professional hoe.
yea but what your saying sounds like this...to me, imo


"Who cares if jay-z is a shady back stabbing b*tch/good for nothing friend, who cares if jay-z totally raped my mind into thinking he was some kinda big drug dealer, it don't matter, i'm still on his d*ck and thats all that matters"

Thats what you jay fans sound like

[reddog271]

ok if dehaven is 38, and jay is one year older than him
that would make jay 39
Ether Day Coming Soon


or Dehaven was held back a few times. And what does his age really matter. Dude could be 44... he still spits better than 99.44% of the *****s out right now.

[reddog271]

yea but what your saying sounds like this...to me, imo
"Who cares if jay-z is a shady back stabbing b*tch/good for nothing friend, who cares if jay-z totally raped my mind into thinking he was some kinda big drug dealer, it don't matter, i'm still on his d*ck and thats all that matters"
Thats what you jay fans sound like



People are taking this ***** Dehaven's word like he a stand up dude. ***** admitted to being in and out of jail, why do you dudes act like he's the truth.