Biggie Smallz was dat dude, but lets be real, Life After Death was no classic

[YaBoyMike969]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die

He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt

[ptahblade07]

it was a classic

quit smoking

[NotSoft]

AEOM remains the only classic double disc...followed by Krayzie Bones "Thug Menality"...i seriously think that its better than LAD,BP2 that are solid for double disc too tho...most stolen album of all time...the bible of the streets=AEOM...sh1ts undeniable...

[NotSoft]

AEOM remains the only classic double disc...followed by Krayzie Bones "Thug Menality"...i seriously think that its better than LAD,BP2 that are solid for double disc too tho...most stolen album of all time...the bible of the streets=AEOM...sh1ts undeniable...

[lightchocolate914]

fukk outta here

[houston911]

AEOM remains the only classic double disc...followed by Krayzie Bones "Thug Menality"...i seriously think that its better than LAD,BP2 that are solid for double disc too tho...most stolen album of all time...the bible of the streets=AEOM...sh1ts undeniable...

how is aeom the most stolen ever? give examples of how its more stolen than l.a.d

[checkman]

it was a classic
quit smoking crack
fixed

[PurpleKushy]

another "this album isn't a classic thread"


dumb it down.



these ****s are like ringtone rappers

[yseJ]

its true
RTD takes a huge shyt on LAD
LAD was biggie's IWW so to speak (much better than nas' shyt though)
it had some hard shyt like kick in the door and 10 crack commandments but a lot of shyt was blatantly commercial

[Detroit Devil 3]

I keep telling you sheep *****s classic is not a matter of one or two people's opinions.

There are like a slew of things that factor into an album's pronouncement of classic status. I blame The Source and all them stupid magazines fans be reading religiously. They don't understand that just because an album is given "5 mics" or "XXL" does not mean it's an instant classic. Those reviews are given more so as a claim on their part to the fans and potential listeners. Albums cannot be declared classics until a good amount of time has passed and there is complete (or at least 90%) unanimity and harmony in the consensus of it being a classic Hip-hop record. Polls could be a very good indicator of the what the general public thinks in regards to a classic claim, seeing as a bunch of people come on here and its undoubtedly a good representation.

The opinions of millions of fans > some bummy review board.

[mitchandness]

life after death >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeom

and yes, LAD is classic.


"It's ill when MC's used to be on other **** (yeah, c'mon)
Took home "Life after Death" and they studied it (that's right)" - Puffy

did i just quote Puff?!?!? :laugh:

[T.N.C.]

AEOM remains the only classic double disc...followed by Krayzie Bones "Thug Menality"...i seriously think that its better than LAD,BP2 that are solid for double disc too tho...most stolen album of all time...the bible of the streets=AEOM...sh1ts undeniable...


I fukked wit the Art of War

[checkman]

life after death >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeom



all day

[SubLyminalz]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die
He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt
u listen to E-40 and keak tha sneak, fukk outta here ni99a :laugh:

[SubLyminalz]

AEOM remains the only classic double disc...followed by Krayzie Bones "Thug Menality"...i seriously think that its better than LAD,BP2 that are solid for double disc too tho...most stolen album of all time...the bible of the streets=AEOM...sh1ts undeniable...
:laugh: :laugh:

[jerichotfx]

life after death >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeom

Close thread

[C.R.£.A.M]

It's not a classic
I should quit smoking crack

[youngtweez]

Thread starter speaks the truth! Great album, and a lot of classic songs, but too much filler. Disc 1 by itself is a classic though!

[STRESSU]

Hard 2 say it was classic . Good album but not touching RTD.

Too much Puff.

Album has classic cuts though.

[thug0holic_niccuh]

Thread starter speaks the truth! Great album, and a lot of classic songs, but too much filler. Disc 1 by itself is a classic though!


LAD is a f*cking classic, If thats not a classic, I don't know what is!

I wanna know what you guys consider the fillers on the album!

Playa Hater? Its funny that almost everyone liked it when it came out, playa hater. and was even singing along to hit...

The Interlude for Mo Money mo prolems?

[BugsySegal]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die
He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt

:thumbsdow

Album was a classic, and if you think otherwise you a sucka...

CLOSE THREAD

[RAZAH CUTS]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die
He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt

fu.ck, stop with all the shock threads.....it's a bona fide classic, end of story, none of your stupid rants or ravings will convince the world otherwise....

[((ReFleX))]

$hyt is a real good album but it aint no classic. if you combined both discs of LAD and made em into one album it STILL wouldn't be better than ready to die.

[YaBoyMike969]

It's a very good album don't get me wrong, and if they trimmed the fat and made it a single album it coulda been better, but the album was too all over the place to be a classic. There wasn't no consistency, he was tryin to please too many crowds, like "****in You 2nite" and "Last Night" don't sound right 2gether... Ready To Die atleast he followed that theme through the album.

Plus: "The World is Filled", "Player hater", "Nasty boy", "Another", "My Downfall" were str8 filler

Too much average material to be classic

[YaBoyMike969]

Hard 2 say it was classic . Good album but not touching RTD.
Too much Puff.
Album has classic cuts though.

Exactly, it did have classic cuts, but overall it wasnt a classic album, prolly cuz too much puff

[YaBoyMike969]

even tracks like "missin u" seemed forced and uninspired

[Vincent Vega]

It's a classic impact-wise, but that's it. Ready To Die is easily better

AEOM, Wu Forever > LAD

[Aka Ashot]

"Life After Death" is one of the most well crafted lp's of all time. Lyrically, musically, all that shyt.

DEFININTE classic and my personal favorite double LP.

[RaulG]

life after death >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeom

:gag::gag::laugh::laugh:

Naw AEOM was straight up classic.

An album has never had so many classics.

California love
All about you
I aint mad at cha
only god can judge me
life goes on
2 of americas most wanted
ambitions as a ridah
Picture me rollin
All eyes on me

^^and these are just the classics. This aint just the the dope songs on the album, but the classics that everybody still plays to this day.

[Kingest Kong]

Best double album ever. From hardcore (Whats beef), to party tracks (Mo money mo problems), to storytelling (I gotta story to tell) to switching his flow (Mo thugs). Big did it all on that album. Fukk outta here that LAD aint a classic.

[danja29]

Yes it is.

And I'm not givin' reasons because you KNOW the reasons why and I've been up since 7am, so I don't feel like explainin' the sh*t at 11:45pm.

But yes it is. That's it.

[J0ker_973]

Hard 2 say it was classic . Good album but not touching RTD.
Too much Puff.
Album has classic cuts though.

[MacFee]

Everyone knows that sh*t aint classic. Its garbage. All these Biggie di*ksuckers just need something to praise the dude for. I cant believe anyone gives this much respect to a rapper that had one good cd.

AEOM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A fat pile of dookie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LAD

I cant believe anyone would seriously try to say that LAD is better than AEOM. :laugh:

[YaBoyMike969]

:gag::gag::laugh::laugh:
Naw AEOM was straight up classic.
An album has never had so many classics.
California love
All about you
I aint mad at cha
only god can judge me
life goes on
2 of americas most wanted
ambitions as a ridah
Picture me rollin
All eyes on me
^^and these are just the classics. This aint just the the dope songs on the album, but the classics that everybody still plays to this day.

Besides a couple tracks, almost every track on All Eyez on Me is classic: "Thug Passion", "Can't See Me", "Wonder Why They Call You *****" and "Holla At Me" you gotta add to that list

[MacFee]

:gag::gag::laugh::laugh:
Naw AEOM was straight up classic.
An album has never had so many classics.
California love
All about you
I aint mad at cha
only god can judge me
life goes on
2 of americas most wanted
ambitions as a ridah
Picture me rollin
All eyes on me
^^and these are just the classics. This aint just the the dope songs on the album, but the classics that everybody still plays to this day.
Seriously, I cant believe anyone would try to compare the two. :laugh: East Coast people just need something to make themselves feel better.

[YaBoyMike969]

Everyone knows that sh*t aint classic. Its garbage. All these Biggie di*ksuckers just need something to praise the dude for. I cant believe anyone gives this much respect to a rapper that had one good cd.
AEOM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A fat pile of dookie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LAD
I cant believe anyone would seriously try to say that LAD is better than AEOM. :laugh:

Word, these east coast stans are delusional, tryin to say LAD's hit or miss ass, was on the same level as the masterpiece ALL EYEZ ON ME

[RaulG]

Besides a couple tracks, almost every track on All Eyez on Me is classic: "Thug Passion", "Can't See Me", "Wonder Why They Call You *****" and "Holla At Me" you gotta add to that list

Yeah i hear u. Those were classics to me also. i just didnt want to keep going.

Seriously, I cant believe anyone would try to compare the two. East Coast people just need something to make themselves feel better.

yeah man i see whut ur saying. and i aint got no problem wit biggie.
But AEOM just had so many classics.

Biggies album had alot of dope songs on it,

but Pacs album had a lot of dope CLASSICCS on it. They werent just dope, they were straight up classic.

Thats why AEOM >>> LAD

[fucthat]

Threads like this show you when people started listening to hip hop. the mood of hip hop back then, the atmosphere when albums dropped. their impact on the genre fans n other rappers.

I mean this was before the concept of a universal rapper existed to the extent of today. big tried to accomodate many styles, which many rappers didnt do before... from storytelling to party to loss, to hardcore and he did so with ease.

and All eyes on me, is another classic.

these two albums should never be denied their classic status, whether u like em or not is up to you, but to deny that these two albums were monumental when they dropped is not only idiotic and childish, but revisionist history.

the thing about classics is that you aint gotta like every single track on them, some people like what others see as filler. sometimes it takes a while to connect with certain songs. what a person likes at age 15 n what they gonna like 10 years down the line may change because of life experience. some people will like the melody of a song before they are impacted by the lyrics... its all subjective

people confuse the idea of a classic n masterpeice. a majority of classic are masterpeices but not every classic has to be one and not every masterpeice is a classic.

[dreggz]

And obviously you were the club raving type guy during that time because I was there when both albums were out and believe me AEOM was a better album than Life After Death. Life After Death was a club pop album with a couple of street tracks thrown in. Seriously..when it was time to jump off nobody was saying...hey play Life after Death to get hyped...........end of story.

Threads like this show you when people started listening to hip hop. the mood of hip hop back then, the atmosphere when albums dropped. their impact on the genre fans n other rappers.

I mean this was before the concept of a universal rapper existed to the extent of today. big tried to accomodate many styles, which many rappers didnt do before... from storytelling to party to loss, to hardcore and he did so with ease.

and All eyes on me, is another classic.

these two albums should never be denied their classic status, whether u like em or not is up to you, but to deny that these two albums were monumental when they dropped is not only idiotic and childish, but revisionist history.

the thing about classics is that you aint gotta like every single track on them, some people like what others see as filler. sometimes it takes a while to connect with certain songs. what a person likes at age 15 n what they gonna like 10 years down the line may change because of life experience. some people will like the melody of a song before they are impacted by the lyrics... its all subjective

people confuse the idea of a classic n masterpeice. a majority of classic are masterpeices but not every classic has to be one and not every masterpeice is a classic.

[lilwettongue]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die
He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt
you must be young and dumb

thats all i have to say on this.

[fucthat]

And obviously you were the club raving type guy during that time because I was there when both albums were out and believe me AEOM was a better album than Life After Death. Life After Death was a club pop album with a couple of street tracks thrown in. Seriously..when it was time to jump off nobody was saying...hey play Life after Death to get hyped...........end of story.

its not a question of what album u like better... its about classic status

n*ggaz bleed
story to tell
kick in the door
ten crack commandments
somebody got to die,
long kiss
last dayz,
missing u,
notorious thugz,
whats beef,
nobidy till somebody kills you,
my downfall
world is filled
Sky is the limit
Goin Back to cali
Big interlude

:dry: yeah thats a pop as it gets huh... its club-rave type of music....:dry:

:dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::d ry:

[Yoda3542]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die
He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt

easily outdid All Eyez On me, without question

i love AEOM but it was all over the place

Big started and ended both discs with strong, hardcore songs

*****s Bleed
Story To Tell

Pac's disc 2 for the most part fell off after track 4

i love "Aint Hard to Find" and "Heaven..." but it's just not as strong as

Downfall
Long Kiss
You're Nobody

[Perverted Justice]

This is not true. It's classic because of it's impact, but to mention it in the same building as AEOM is just crazy. It's not even close, if you go song by song. The whole 1st disc of AEOM is one long classic, full of songs you can hear anywhere in AMerica on any given day. Let's break it down by classic songs.

Life After Death:



3 "Hypnotize" 3:49 C. Wallace,
R. Alpert,
D. Angelettie,
Andy Armer,
Sean Combs,
Ron Lawrence Sean "Puffy" Combs, Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie, & Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence for The Hitmen Pamela Long, Puff Daddy Contains a sample of "Rise" by Herb Alpert
Contains a sample of *Interpolates "La Di Da Di" by Slick Rick & Doug E. Fresh

4 "Kick in the Door" 4:46 C. Wallace,
J. Hawkins,
Chris E. Martin DJ Premier The Madd Rapper *Contains a sample of "I Put A Spell On You" by Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Contains a sample of "Unbelieveable" by The Notorious B.I.G.
Contains a sample of "Get Money" by Junior M.A.F.I.A.

8 "What's Beef?" 5:15 C. Wallace,
Carlos Broady,
Nasheim Myrick Nashiem Myrick & Carlos "6 July" Broady for the Hitmen Puff Daddy


10 "Mo Money Mo Problems" 4:17 C. Wallace,
M. Betha,
Sean Combs,
B.H. Edwards,
S. Jordan,
Nile Rodgers Sean "Puffy" Combs & Steven "Stevie J" Jordan for The Hitmen Puff Daddy, Mase, Kelly Price Contains a sample of *"I'm Coming Out" by Diana Ross



[edit] Disc two

1 "Notorious Thugs" 6:07 C. Wallace,
Sean Combs,
Al Henderson,
S. Howse,
S. Jordan,
Brian McCane Sean "Puffy" Combs & Steven "Stevie J" Jordan for The Hitmen Bone Thugs-N-Harmony



4 "Going Back to Cali" 5:07 C. Wallace,
O. Harvey,
Roger Troutman Easy Mo Bee The Notorious B.I.G. Contains a sample of "More Bounce To The Ounce" by Zapp

5 "Ten Crack Commandments" 3:24 C. Wallace,
Chris E. Martin DJ Premier The Notorious B.I.G. Contains a sample of "Valantra" by Les McCann
Contains a sample of "Shut 'Em Down" by Public Enemy

6 "Playa Hater" 3:57 C. Wallace,
Sean Combs,
W. Hart,
S. Jordan Sean "Puffy" Combs & Steven "Stevie J" Jordan for The Hitmen The Notorious B.I.G. Contains a sample of "Hey! Love" by The Delfonics


8 "Sky's the Limit" 5:29 C. Wallace,
Bobby Caldwell,
Hubert Eaves,
Clark Kent,
J. Williams Clark Kent 112 Contains a sample of "Keep On" by D. Train
Contains a sample of "My Flame" by Bobby Caldwell

11 "Long Kiss Goodnight" 5:18 C. Wallace,
Robert Diggs RZA The Notorious B.I.G. Contains a sample of "The Letter" by Al Green
Contains a sample of "The Letter" by Grant Green

Here's the classic filled AEOM

1 "Ambitionz Az a Ridah" 2Pac Daz Dillinger

2 "All Bout U" 2Pac; Dru Down; Hussein Fatal; Nate Dogg; Snoop Dogg; Yaki Kadafi 2Pac; Johnny "J"

4 "Got My Mind Made Up" 2Pac; Dat ***** Daz; Kurupt; Method Man; Redman Daz Dillinger

5 "How Do U Want It" 2Pac; K-Ci and JoJo Johnny "J"

6 "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" 2Pac; Snoop Dogg Daz Dillinger

7 "No More Pain" 2Pac DeVante Swing

8 "Heartz of Men" 2Pac DJ Quik

9 "Life Goes On" 2Pac Johnny "J"

10 "Only God Can Judge Me" 2Pac; Rappin' 4-Tay Doug Rasheed

12 "California Love (RMX)" 2Pac; Dr. Dre; Roger Troutman Dr. Dre

13 "I Ain't Mad at Cha" 2Pac; Danny Boy Daz Dillinger



[edit] Book 2

1 "Can't C Me" 2Pac; George Clinton Dr. Dre

2 "Shorty Wanna Be a Thug" 2Pac Johnny "J"

3 "Holla at Me" 2Pac; Jewell Bobby "Bobcat" Ervin

4 "Wonda Why They Call U *****" 2Pac Johnny "J"


7 "Picture Me Rollin'" 2Pac; Big Syke; CPO; Danny Boy Johnny "J"


10 "All Eyez on Me" 2Pac; Big Syke Johnny "J"

If you look at it, Life After Death has 10 classic songs on it, which makes it one of the greatest albums ever, but All Eyez on Me has 10 classics on the first disc, and 17 total. 17 classic songs on one record.

Now some of y'all are gonna disagree one a few songs, but these are the songs that have survived and remained all these years later and are still popular amongst most Hip-Hop fans.

[boombche_stum]

Everyone knows that sh*t aint classic. Its garbage. All these Biggie di*ksuckers just need something to praise the dude for. I cant believe anyone gives this much respect to a rapper that had one good cd.
AEOM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A fat pile of dookie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LAD
I cant believe anyone would seriously try to say that LAD is better than AEOM. :laugh:

You make the bay look bad, sit your hatin ***got ass down.

BOTH albums are classic. You don't have to like both (I do, but thats cause I don't let petty lame ass beefs get in the way of finding good music like you lames do), but to deny eithers classic status makes you seem like you 10 years old and don't know shyt about hip hop.

[Meteret1]

LAD > All Eyez On Me

[Roovers410]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die
He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt

almost everyone who loves hiphop knows this album...crazy people know the album lyric for lyric...yes it has some flaws on it...and it aint the best album ever artisticly...but callin one of the albums thats most talked about in the history of hiphop ever not a classic...is bananas

[tRupac]

:gag::gag::laugh::laugh:
Naw AEOM was straight up classic.
An album has never had so many classics.
California love
All about you
I aint mad at cha
only god can judge me
life goes on
2 of americas most wanted
ambitions as a ridah
Picture me rollin
All eyes on me

:yes: and that's just the list of undeniables... i'd say there are far better tracks on there that may not be as commercially successful. the two albums are just incomparable.

take that, take that, take that.

[1991]

Way too much filler
Way too many fluffy ass pop beats
too many features
Biggie didn't get in that zone like he was on Ready 2 Die
He tried to outdo "All Eyez On Me" which was a classic, but didnt
^

The exact same can be said for AEOM

[webnutt]

It's a classic impact-wise, but that's it. Ready To Die is easily better
AEOM, Wu Forever > LAD
Exactly!!! ...."it's a classic impact wise" so theres no argument. It's classic. I still prefer ready to Die myself but for the time period it was released in, Life After Death gave the best of both worlds in delivering hardcore and commercial music. Dudes albums now are all filler. If Pac or Big didn't lay the album bluprint then they wouldn't be so emulated by just about every artist that came after them.