Men lie women lie numbers dont Curtis 691,000>Hov 425,000

[galvatron]

This is what I have been trying to explain to you cats on sohh for years ...with all the criticalk acclaim and so called respect that Jay Zgest as a rappers he has never ever been as popular as 50 cent has since 2003

Both have dropped 3 solo Cds since 2003 and 50 has outsold Jay Z every single time.What is the excuse this time as to why Curtis had a bigger 1st week than Jigga????????....all you sohh n1ggas hated Curti sand loved A.G yet 50 outsold this dude 1st week by damn near 250,000.

This has nothing to do with anything but Popularity and slaes and Jay Z cathes an L to 50 everytime.

props to Loso for opening up for 50 in Europe

numbers dont lie people

[TheVoice315]

but hov got elvis status now

[King Jaffe Joe]

dog to you think that Curtis was a better album than AG tho?

no hate, just a question.

[theman080]

yeah but AG was a way better album & I didnt buy either so why should I care?

[Da Rhythm Rebel]

the album was announced a month before it dropped and barely had a video - Roc Boys dropped the same day the album dropped

Curtis had 7 videos out before

can't compare but i'd say that Curtis lost again

[galvatron]

dog to you think that Curtis was a better album than AG tho?

no hate, just a question.
YES!!!!!!!!!!

[flexxdzl]

WWOOWW:ohmy:..MOst of the cats that's going to come in here are gonna make excuses..50 is the KONY..no if ands or buts ..this marks a new low in hip hop..the internet is killing rap artist..3 weeks before and album comes out we have have listened to it and get tired of it..

BTW I was checking out how people talk about Jay-z record and they were saying Jays almost Gold ...and say 50's barley platinum....lol

hip hop is gone as we know it

[westkoast2k2]

Stans lie, 38 year old men lie, ears don't

American Gangsta > Curtass

[Jay-Young]

YES!!!!!!!!!!



this n1gga just gets off on riding 50's c0ck like a groupie ignore this dude he wants yall 2 get mad on purpose cuz hes bored.... loser

[huddy 6]

50 had 5 videos and some with big name features before his album came out. Jay only had 2 solo cuts.

[kurupt_u]

SMH that you still comparing sales. talk about the music man....when 50 gets to his hmmmmm, 10th studio album, talk then.........1

[galvatron]

the album was announced a month before it dropped and barely had a video - Roc Boys dropped the same day the album dropped
Curtis had 7 videos out before
can't compare but i'd say that Curtis lost again
revisionist history

the last 2 months have been nothing but Jay Z has a new Cd coming out.Jay Z has the media in the palm of his hands.

50 had his Cd pushed back which always hurts an artist sales but the real fact is this.....50 always outsells Jay Z and that is pure fact.

at the end of the year when they review to top selling Cds of 2007 and talk about biggest 1st weeks...Kanye and 50 will be over Jay Z.....this aint about anything but Jay Z neverever outselling 50 no matter how much sohh swears Jay Z is a mythical godlike figure.

[The Antagonist]

Jay sold that much with basically no real singles.

[flexxdzl]

dog to you think that Curtis was a better album than AG tho?

no hate, just a question.


Realtalk ..both albums lacked relavence to whats going on today both albums lack a certain significance.. I like 50's record more than Jay's ..If I'm rolling down the street ..I want to hear 50 if I'm just chilling at the house I want to hear jay ...

Jay has better lyrics but a better album ..heeeee..50 to me ...Jay'z the GOAT when it comes to rappin..I think 50 had a better record

[ItripL]

This is what I have been trying to explain to you cats on sohh for years ...with all the criticalk acclaim and so called respect that Jay Zgest as a rappers he has never ever been as popular as 50 cent has since 2003
Both have dropped 3 solo Cds since 2003 and 50 has outsold Jay Z every single time.What is the excuse this time as to why Curtis had a bigger 1st week than Jigga????????....all you sohh n1ggas hated Curti sand loved A.G yet 50 outsold this dude 1st week by damn near 250,000.
This has nothing to do with anything but Popularity and slaes and Jay Z cathes an L to 50 everytime.
props to Loso for opening up for 50 in Europe
numbers dont lie people

He still lost ot Kayne. Why are you still using this corny alias?

[TheVoice315]

WWOOWW:ohmy:..MOst of the cats that's going to come in here are gonna make excuses..50 is the KONY..no if ands or buts ..this marks a new low in hip hop..the internet is killing rap artist..3 weeks before and album comes out we have have listened to it and get tired of it..
BTW I was checking out how people talk about Jay-z record and they were saying Jays almost Gold ...and say 50's barley platinum....lol
hip hop is gone as we know it
:laugh::laugh:...gotta agree with the bolded though

[galvatron]

SMH that you still comparing sales. talk about the music man....when 50 gets to his hmmmmm, 10th studio album, talk then.........1
I will talk about what 50 has done since GRODT

2003,GRODT
2003,G Unit Cd Beg For Mercy

2004,Banks solo
2004,Buck solo

2005 Massacre
2005 Tony yayo
2005 Game
2005 GRODT soundtrack

2006 Mobb Deep
2006 Banks 2nd

2007 Young Buck 2nd
2007 Curtis
2007 G unit 2nd Cd

In other words n1gga stop acting like 50 been sitting on his AZZ doing nothing.All those Cds are on his label and he is the President.Only on sohh do yall try yall hardest to re write history.

[flexxdzl]

Jay sold that much with basically no real singles.


No hate but stop it.. Jay released Blue majic ..thinking it would be a hit and he released roc boys thinking it would be a hit.. they weren't ..

JAY is still the best but the record just wasn't as good..jay is so far removed for the street his album is not believable..anymore

[galvatron]

No hate but stop it.. Jay released Blue majic ..thinking it would be a hit and he released roc boys thinking it would be a hit.. they weren't ..
JAY is still the best but the record just wasn't as good..jay is so far removed for the street his album is not believable..anymore
Word up when you get Phareel on a hook and on the pproduction you arethinking HIT and nothing else..it got a lackluster responce so he rushed out Roc Boys...Hov has the media in the Palm of his hands and they all told us how great this cd was/is but the reality is the consumer still went out and on the 1st week brought more copies of CURTIS than AMERICAN GANGSTA.

[rbk2003]

No hate but stop it.. Jay released Blue majic ..thinking it would be a hit and he released roc boys thinking it would be a hit.. they weren't ..
JAY is still the best but the record just wasn't as good..jay is so far removed for the street his album is not believable..anymore
Both of those records are crazy..didn't 50 cent brick with 5 records and had one major hit with i get money.

HOV announce the album in oct a month from release date.....he is doing it for the love ...Now explain the curtis cd...

[checkman]

50 stans still heated over the L kanye gave curtass

[logic80]

thats all fine and dandy but why did kingdom come sell more than curtis and will sell more than Curtis...AG wasnt made for the masses. Wasnt heavily promoted.

[Ejay614]

u know 50 would not have sold that much if it wasn't for the kanye thing

[Rakim23]

shock thread:thumbsdow

[Mertbag]

i think Kanye, 50, and Jay would have all had about 400,000 if the first two didnt have that competition going. Kanye clearly had the most help cause people bought it to spite 50. 50 benefitted as well because he got sales where he would have only had downloads for support. Plus some losers bought multiple copies.

Kanye = 3 hits
50 = 1.5 hits
Jay = 0 hits but best album

Thats how I see it, but who cares sales are irrelevant. Everybody knows weezy gets the most downloads and soulja boy has the hit of the year.

[flexxdzl]

Both of those records are crazy..didn't 50 cent brick with 5 records and had one major hit with i get money.
HOV announce the album in oct a month from release date.....he is doing it for the love ...Now explain the curtis cd...

It's hard for me to argue cuz i like both and listen to both records..alot..

50 had 2 hits Ayo ( white overseas) and I get money..and this Still Kill is hard best song on the record to me..

BTW 50 announced his record 4 months out..

I cant really take sides in this I like both cats ..Jay's record dissapointed me..

[TheVoice315]

u know 50 would not have sold that much if it wasn't for the kanye thing
that goes both ways

[flexxdzl]

50 stans still heated over the L kanye gave curtass


Curtis was number one world wide..no kanye..smh ..Kayne lossed..no 50..

[jab343irk]

numbers don't lie

[galvatron]

Both of those records are crazy..didn't 50 cent brick with 5 records and had one major hit with i get money.
HOV announce the album in oct a month from release date.....he is doing it for the love ...Now explain the curtis cd...
Ayo technology peaked at #5 on the hot 100 so that is very far from a brick...He never released follow my lead because of the leak so dont count that.

regardless of everything you are saying it hurts your arguments because 5 50 bricks yet he still sells 691,000 1st week

[Art Barr]

I will talk about what 50 has done since GRODT
2003,GRODT
2003,G Unit Cd Beg For Mercy
2004,Banks solo
2004,Buck solo
2005 Massacre
2005 Tony yayo
2005 Game
2005 GRODT soundtrack
2006 Mobb Deep
2006 Banks 2nd
2007 Young Buck 2nd
2007 Curtis
2007 G unit 2nd Cd
In other words n1gga stop acting like 50 been sitting on his AZZ doing nothing.All those Cds are on his label and he is the President.Only on sohh do yall try yall hardest to re write history.


i love when you attack this sh!t within the sellout created realm of i got record sales, and receipts that should equal respect........that was sh!t on a ruined hammer career...but puffy out thought that wrinkle in time, to have him and mase devalue the emcee aspect of being a rapper....and thus leading to the 'you hatin' bullsh!t garbage, that allowed fiddy, and you the leeway on this pedestal to be able to even to make this a thread. A FIDDY THAT I WON'T FORGET TO MENTION INITIALLY BIT MASE FOR, AND THEN PAC IN HIS PSYCHODEATHROW REGRESSION PERIOD AS WELL.

here is some krs still is better than all them n!99az and the real. krs talks about that bullsh!t, over and over again, so i know you didn't miss it. but here is some recent sh!t from krs that shows he still is better, and always was better than the aforementioned in this thread, and .

props to phuckin mister K, cause this sh!t ironically is needed in this thread.

hxxp://www.zshare.net/audio/4897870604320f/
hxxp://www.zshare.net/audio/48980279631908/

Listen and share your views

now after you heard these rhymes on zshare.net........you should understand as a culture that your whole realm and ledge you stand on is some bullsh!t in teh first place.......not to mention, galvy you come across as already knowing this, and from your stretchbobbito hall of fame listing as a listener you should know that this angle you come from is some bullsh!t. it even ruined the relationship of those two legends so pay attention to what you are precipitating on this board.

art barr

you my friend need to just stop the propaganda bullsh!t, because from your background you know better, but you just like to rub this bullsh!t fact in toys faces to make them mad in retaliation for the same sh!t which initially and fundamentally damaged the culture.


so stop that sh!t, and just say exactly why you are doin this sh!t,.......if you won't i already explained it.


stop the bullsh!t.....

art barr

[Kingofkings]

When 50 has elvis status come back..
Jay-z has sold 28 million records in usa 50 only 11-12 million..
50 has been signed to major labels since 99 jay-z since 97.. that leaves 50 2 years to sell the other 16-17 mill to get to jays level.
Then he needs a bunch albums 300 million more, a ladie, a classic.
And btw 50 is at 1.1 million jay will probably pass that.. and 5 mics is stonger than sales.. everyone can sell not everyone can get 5 mics.
But back to you question.. 50 sold more cause jay-z made a gangster album, with blue magic as first single.. he announced tha album for about 3 weeks ago and never had a beef with kanye for sales, he didnt have ***** cat dolls, 6 videos, mary j, eminem and a song dissing everyones love life.. i guess that is a pretty good answer? And that 50s music is more to white kids and ladies while jay-zs are the teenagers and up and also ladies

[galvatron]

thats all fine and dandy but why did kingdom come sell more than curtis and will sell more than Curtis...AG wasnt made for the masses. Wasnt heavily promoted.
Kingdom come sold 680,000 1st week..in other words it did not outsell Curtis unless 680,000 is more than 691,000 in an age of downloads

[dumassispumanti]

No hate but stop it.. Jay released Blue majic ..thinking it would be a hit and he released roc boys thinking it would be a hit.. they weren't


I dont think Jay-Z ever believed Blue Magic was going to rocket to #1 though it's up for debate. Roc Boys however, just came out. Be realistic.


JAY is still the best but the record just wasn't as good..jay is so far removed for the street his album is not believable..anymore

It's his possibly his best work since Blueprint and the third or fourth best reviewed album of his entire 10 album career. You're entitled to that opinion though.


This has nothing to do with anything but Popularity and slaes and Jay Z cathes an L to 50 everytime.


Kingdom Come, Jay-Z's 9th album....outsold Curtis, 50's 3rd less than one year ago with 4 less singles. So what are you talking about?

Kanye West is the most popular rapper on the planet and he's Jay-Z's artist. Let that bubble. I don't think you know what "L" actually means, but I digress. I hate sales and money talk, it's anti hip-hop, but you force the issue. Forbes 1,2,3? Who ranks where? Those are numbers. Do they lie?

[TheVoice315]

When 50 has elvis status come back..
Jay-z has sold 28 million records in usa 50 only 11-12 million..
50 has been signed to major labels since 99 jay-z since 97.. that leaves 50 2 years to sell the other 16-17 mill to get to jays level.
Then he needs a bunch albums 300 million more, a ladie, a classic.
And btw 50 is at 1.1 million jay will probably pass that.. and 5 mics is stonger than sales.. everyone can sell not everyone can get 5 mics.
But back to you question.. 50 sold more cause jay-z made a gangster album, with blue magic as first single.. he announced tha album for about 3 weeks ago and never had a beef with kanye for sales, he didnt have ***** cat dolls, 6 videos, mary j, eminem and a song dissing everyones love life.. i guess that is a pretty good answer? And that 50s music is more to white kids and ladies while jay-zs are the teenagers and up and also ladies
nomey they gave lil kim 5 mics remember?

[Kingofkings]

Kingdom come sold 680,000 1st week..in other words it did not outsell Curtis unless 680,000 is more than 691,000 in an age of downloads
710 according to hits daily double
680 according to billboard.. and fucck first week its only about who has the most hype, who has the best features, most singles, most beef.. not best music thats why kingdom come is 2x platinum and 50s 1.1 million.

[Kingofkings]

nomey they gave lil kim 5 mics remember?
yeah, that was a misstake we all know that cause if the prison bullsh*t.
but who more than lil kim? who wasnt supposed to get?
most of the times its albums that are supposed to get that don't.

[boojitede]

No hate but stop it.. Jay released Blue majic ..thinking it would be a hit and he released roc boys thinking it would be a hit.. they weren't ..
JAY is still the best but the record just wasn't as good..jay is so far removed for the street his album is not believable..anymore
it JUST dropped da **** u talking? had roc boys been a first single he prolly woulda done more numbers. check back 2nd and third week sales before you start sayin that bull****

[galvatron]

When 50 has elvis status come back..
Jay-z has sold 28 million records in usa 50 only 11-12 million..
50 has been signed to major labels since 99 jay-z since 97.. that leaves 50 2 years to sell the other 16-17 mill to get to jays level.
Then he needs a bunch albums 300 million more, a ladie, a classic.
And btw 50 is at 1.1 million jay will probably pass that.. and 5 mics is stonger than sales.. everyone can sell not everyone can get 5 mics.
But back to you question.. 50 sold more cause jay-z made a gangster album, with blue magic as first single.. he announced tha album for about 3 weeks ago and never had a beef with kanye for sales, he didnt have ***** cat dolls, 6 videos, mary j, eminem and a song dissing everyones love life.. i guess that is a pretty good answer? And that 50s music is more to white kids and ladies while jay-zs are the teenagers and up and also ladies
1.Reasonable dounbt came out in 1996
2.Lil Kim got 5 mics with her last cd
3.nothing you have said can change 1 FACT.CURTIS sold more copies than A.G even though Jay z has a monopoly on the media for the last 2 months....he promoted this cd for 2 months straight....we knew in september he had a new cd coming out.....he put the "most popular rapper on his cd snd had an A LIST production team.

It bother you guys that 50 is more popular than Jay Zand that is all this thread is about.

Art Barr in the words of Killa Cam "im get back to you......... dipset doggie"

[dumassispumanti]

3.nothing you have said can change 1 FACT.CURTIS sold more copies than A.G

Kingdom Come sold more copies than Curtis.

[Kingofkings]

1.Reasonable dounbt came out in 1996
2.Lil Kim got 5 mics with her last cd
3.nothing you have said can change 1 FACT.CURTIS sold more copies than A.G even though Jay z has a monopoly on the media for the last 2 months....he promoted this cd for 2 months straight....we knew in september he had a new cd coming out.....he put the "most popular rapper on his cd snd had an A LIST production team.
It bother you guys that 50 is more popular than Jay Zand that is all this thread is about.
Art Barr in the words of Killa Cam "im get back to you......... dipset doggie"
1. Reasonable doubt was sold out of dames back, we count the time he signed.
2. Lil kim is the only mistake..
3. with all the money 50 put in his big ass promotion and money to all the features he probably went minus cause he only sold 1 mill.
50 sold more first week, he makes more friendly music, he makes bigger headlines, he has the top sellers of the year on his cd, he has eminem and dr.dre behind him, and only thing he wants is to sell good for him you dont make sh*t of it, he sold more than thriller did first week too but thrilled sold 27 million copies more in usa...
50 even had JAY and PUFF on his track to sell and still kanye sold like 300k more. with no special features.. its called music.

Only thing 50 talked about before he dropped his album was sales, he never talked about the music why? cause it was wack nothing special to talk about. He is talking about the new in da club why? he has no creativity.

Jay-z plays on another league unlike 50.
he has got
4 classics. while 50 has 1
28 million sold in usa, while 50 has 12
Respected by people like oprah and koffi annan.
Respected in his hood, while 50 lives in conneticut
Half a billion, while 50 has 200 million
Is with girls like Beyonce, while 50 hangs with p.hilton.

I mean they can't even be compared, only white boys under 17 compare jay-z with 50 cent at any point.. Its to make a thread oh "jay-z sold more than mj in 2000, but never compare them cause mj has sold 250 million other records he is old now he is doing it for the fans"...
"What the fuuck is 50 cent, im about dollars"
Compare 50 to t.i, luda, nelly.. dudes in his league and he will probably smash them att every point except skills. Not dudes like puff and jay legends.. But owell someone told me don't argue with 15 year old white boy stans.. they brains ain't there yet.

[galvatron]

1. Reasonable doubt was sold out of dames back, we count the time he signed.
2. Lil kim is the only mistake..
3. with all the money 50 put in his big ass promotion and money to all the features he probably went minus cause he only sold 1 mill.
50 sold more first week, he makes more friendly music, he makes bigger headlines, he has the top sellers of the year on his cd, he has eminem and dr.dre behind him, and only thing he wants is to sell good for him you dont make sh*t of it, he sold more than thriller did first week too but thrilled sold 27 million copies more in usa...
50 even had JAY and PUFF on his track to sell and still kanye sold like 300k more. with no special features.. its called music.

Only thing 50 talked about before he dropped his album was sales, he never talked about the music why? cause it was wack nothing special to talk about. He is talking about the new in da club why? he has no creativity.

Jay-z plays on another league unlike 50.
he has got
4 classics. while 50 has 1
28 million sold in usa, while 50 has 12
Respected by people like oprah and koffi annan.
Respected in his hood, while 50 lives in conneticut
Half a billion, while 50 has 200 million
Is with girls like Beyonce, while 50 hangs with p.hilton.

I mean they can't even be compared, only white boys under 17 compare jay-z with 50 cent at any point.. Its to make a thread oh "jay-z sold more than mj in 2000, but never compare them cause mj has sold 250 million other records he is old now he is doing it for the fans"...
"What the fuuck is 50 cent, im about dollars"
Compare 50 to t.i, luda, nelly.. dudes in his league and he will probably smash them att every point except skills. Not dudes like puff and jay legends.. But owell someone told me don't argue with 15 year old white boy stans.. they brains ain't there yet.
dude you are BLIND
hiphop aint start in 1996 but according to you it did

50 has done more in the last 5 years in hip than ANY other rapper.in ever aspect of hiphop.

by the way,,,HOV is a no show in the movies


while 50 is doing movies with Pacino and Deniro..hate on that

[dumassispumanti]

50 has done more in the last 5 years in hip than ANY other rapper.in ever aspect of hiphop.

then why are they giving Jay so much more money for it lol.

[Xecutioner]

Honestly, Jay never really did big numbers like 50, Nelly, Eminem, etc. But he does have longevity and that what counts in the end.

[galvatron]

Honestly, Jay never really did big numbers like 50, Nelly, Eminem, etc. But he does have longevity and that what counts in the end.
so does LL so is he the goat

[westkoast2k2]

SUSANtron lost. Curtis "Titanic" Jackson lost.

[TheY2DreProblem]

YES!!!!!!!!!!

wrong.