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I always was a Big Jay-Z Fan and I know he is a speaker more than a Lyrical assain but after I heard this Freestyle I changed my mine about him even being better lyrically than Lil Wayne. I still know he is better overall but not lyrically.
http://wearexout.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62&Itemid=1
yall gonna see this wack ass freestyle yall always bring up wack **** from Wayne
yall gonna see this wack ass freestyle yall always bring up wack **** from Wayne
thats because a "lyrical assasin" such as Wayne shouldnt have so much wack shiit out there but he does. i dont know what it is kids find "lyrical" about his lyrics. i aint even a jay-z fan.
Freedom Of Chat
11-14-07, 11:18 AM
I always was a Big Jay-Z Fan and I know he is a speaker more than a Lyrical assain but after I heard this Freestyle I changed my mine about him even being better lyrically than Lil Wayne. I still know he is better overall but not lyrically.
http://wearexout.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62&Itemid=1
yeah thats pretty bad... thats what happens when "swag" sells more than skillz
hov still the :king: tho
yea he still the King but that **** was pooh....But who said something bout a kid I dont see any Kids in here
khrys_x
11-14-07, 11:20 AM
lol...this muh'fukka has studied the predictible lemming-like ways of SOHH and structured his spam in such a way as to draw the most attention to the thread, and in turn his wack azz website..."Make a thread dissing Lord Hova while propping up the Antichrist Wayne, yeah...that'll draw 'em in"...can't say that you don't have this board well scouted though
Vendetta
11-14-07, 11:23 AM
http://wearexout.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62&Itemid=1
:ohmy::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
man u tripping what the **** are u talking bout I love Weezy and I love Jay-Z and what website I dont own a website but that was just a wack ass website
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 11:41 AM
man u tripping what the **** are u talking bout I love Weezy and I love Jay-Z and what website I dont own a website but that was just a wack ass website
it just so happens that every thread you start contains a link to that same "wack" website, right? :dry:
thats where i get my news from i just so happen most people happen to put links of youtube or zshare every thread they start
BOI_A_RHASTA
11-14-07, 12:00 PM
Hes So Fly Dawg U Have No Eye-dear
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 12:04 PM
thats where i get my news from i just so happen most people happen to put links of youtube or zshare every thread they start
i just assumed most people owned a portion of youtube or zshare :eek:
what u mean most people owned a portion my whole point is most people post links to sites where they get most of their news from....I dont get mine from zshare or youtube....I rather get it from a site that I know and those people are from my city thats all
Freedom Of Chat
11-14-07, 12:25 PM
Hes So Fly Dawg U Have No Eye-dear
:thumbsdow
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 12:26 PM
what u mean most people owned a portion my whole point is most people post links to sites where they get most of their news from....I dont get mine from zshare or youtube....I rather get it from a site that I know and those people are from my city thats all
:dry: it was a joke
nevermind
i still think you profit in some way by people looking at that site. im not hating, im just saying.
Play B-O-Y
11-14-07, 12:27 PM
thats because a "lyrical assasin" such as Wayne shouldnt have so much wack shiit out there but he does. i dont know what it is kids find "lyrical" about his lyrics. i aint even a jay-z fan.
texas has no opinion.
bow wow's brown paper bag freestyle > paul wall, mike jones, lil keke
I will in the near future because I want alot of people to come on the forums and start talking so I can be the most active member so I can get that monhlty prize they have but news articles I am just giving yall some news I aint getting **** from that
texas has no opinion.
bow wow's brown paper bag freestyle > paul wall, mike jones, lil keke
LMFAO
Mertbag
11-14-07, 12:30 PM
in the world of youtube and the internet no one is untouchable. if internet had always been around youd be able to find youtubes of all of michael jordans bad plays. you could probably find funny sht on tupac like the game's heart video... etc...
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 12:31 PM
I will in the near future because I want alot of people to come on the forums and start talking so I can be the most active member so I can get that monhlty prize they have but news articles I am just giving yall some news I aint getting **** from that
word.
good luck
yea man its crazy how people think im profiting off a website just cause im giving links shid I would give links to youtube and onsmash and **** if I can get new **** from them but I dont
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 12:37 PM
yea man its crazy how people think im profiting off a website just cause im giving links shid I would give links to youtube and onsmash and **** if I can get new **** from them but I dont
us SOHH cats have developed a certain disdain to anybody trying to push their e-product on us.
it slows down the frequency of Jay vs Nas threads :argue:
LOL but no aint no e-products I hope I can get a site....im in college and really dont even know how to build a website...I dont know the slighest idea on how to build a website so trust me its not for me....all yall comments I may have to email the Owner of that site and ask for part ownership lol
Just BlackAf
11-14-07, 12:40 PM
happens when "swag" sells more than skillz
3 years ago on SOHH this wouldve applied to Jay Z vs. Nas. Pretty funny....
Jay-Z is better than Nas easily
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 12:44 PM
Jay-Z is better than Nas easily
there you go, now your a real SOHHite
wait who yall think is better well who the majority think is better
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 12:52 PM
wait who yall think is better well who the majority think is better
hard to get a real opinion because their fans are like the Israelis and the Palestinians, both loud and wrong
but i like them both. Both in my top 5.
not in my top 5
Order of Greatness
Tupac
Jay-Z
Biggie
Soulja Slim(new orleans bound)
Scarface
actually Nas and Scarface is a tie so he may be in the Top 5
Art Barr
11-14-07, 01:17 PM
jay is a lyrical assassin, and not just some speaker or whatever people say about jay.
but anyway,.........weezy in comparison as a draw just made a more digestible jayz amalgamation. that skillset, incorporates and excludes the double entendre, and double meaning, and sublim's that jay uses. plus the skillset jay created, and had to use to distinguish himself, but still be incorporated into the draw of the type of rap he wanted to do, and that factually was some nas type ish.
nas's whole draw was built off that esoteric well read decypher god type sh!t, so jayz is pretty much the gangsta whitecollar criminal version of that.
weezy doesn't imo,........understand that draw or aspect, and imo that is why he is limited to be a biter because he doesn't portray to understand that about jay-z's draw, and where exactly jay-z's draw was defined from.
he starts at a point when gillie started at imo,.........and that is being a cookiecutter amalgamated on the surface ripoff soundalike of jayz. simply because that is what gillie inherently and wholeheartedly was biting and is as an artist. it is the reason why gillie never hit, because he actually lacked the bite conceptually, and in content. but if that same skillset could be executed, and oversaturated in volume is the whatif that weezy fulfilled to accomplish his current draw.
plus not to mention the change of the times, and the overrall starting liquid capital weezy can afford to have put to his draw.
so that is the reason why weezy is more digestible. it is because he comes from a draw that tried to dumbdown another person's skillset which wasn't original.......and one of the reason devoid of weezy's changin degree of delivery he doesn't deliver in that same get to the heart of the issue, and subliminal, double meaning that jay did. even jay was tryin to amalgamate nas, and imo still pales in comparison to where the original draw and mystique that nas created in his lane originally as an artist before he ultimately was forced to sellout and change for his greater good.
all that plus, weezy was starting from having capital readily available to sell his points and career at all cost. the point of weezy's career since 2000 has been to be involved and included in actual culture discussion as a credible artist. that i give weezy wholehearted credit for and in study jay z he did pick up that aspect.....the aspect that i can emulate someone and it will be a success, and i can profit if i spend enough material dollars and do the other things necessary to see its fruition.
art barr
? u think anyone read any of that long ass story
Art Barr
11-14-07, 02:02 PM
? u think anyone read any of that long ass story
you are new here, i will give you time to get acclamated.
art barr
readin is fundamental, and i don't subscribe to post length.
Okay I understand but I go to school and I read too much so when im online I dont like to read so much I got class in 3 hours when I finish reading that long ass book I will be headed to school
RandyBodek
11-14-07, 03:12 PM
lol @ lil wayne being mentioned in the same breath as jay-z. lil wayne is a barely average rapper, i dont see how anyone over 17 could ever think otherwise.
I am over 17 actually 19 in college with a brain on my shoulder and I say Wayne is on the Level of Jigga not better but at least up there
RandyBodek
11-14-07, 03:23 PM
I am over 17 actually 19 in college with a brain on my shoulder and I say Wayne is on the Level of Jigga not better but at least up there
well then you are retarded, or just real real real simple. lil wayne's lyrics are simple as hell, you shouldnt be happy that you're 19 and think he's dope, thats something you keep to yourself.
Art Barr
11-14-07, 03:34 PM
well then you are retarded, or just real real real simple. lil wayne's lyrics are simple as hell, you shouldnt be happy that you're 19 and think he's dope, thats something you keep to yourself.
in all actuality though,...........jay is a dumbdowned version or alternative version of his contemporary nas.
, when you take into account the origins of jay sh!t, then you can tell that weezy just filled in the blanks and does a more gateway accessible version of jay. which is still a dumbdown version of nas.
art barr
Nas....why did you even mention Nas?
I always was a Big Jay-Z Fan and I know he is a speaker more than a Lyrical assain but after I heard this Freestyle I changed my mine about him even being better lyrically than Lil Wayne. I still know he is better overall but not lyrically.
http://wearexout.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62&Itemid=1
1)that obviously wasnt a freestyle in the sense that it wasnt off the top of the head
2)i didnt hear anything "wack". the quality of the clip isnt all that but it just sounded like he was playing with a flow.
3)this thread is silly and you do seem to just be spamming to promte that lil website.Nas....why did you even mention Nas?why did you mention wayne?
King Jaffe Joe
11-14-07, 04:16 PM
Nas....why did you even mention Nas?
your new here and i should have warned you about this
^^^thats Hoeboy^^^
the resident Jigga nut cupper. he will relentlessly attack anyone that says something negative about Hov. like a b!tch
you've been warned :cool:
I am not worrying about anny dudes in here because these dudes are lame round here
well if you don't think nas or jay are anything special there's no need for this thread at all!!!! people try to use jay as a measuring stick for greatness & that's all hype anyways!!! there have been & will be plenty better than jay throughout the years!!! no need to compare wayne to jay!!! wayne's more accesible to the "new generation" & jay is more liked by the "old heads" but in the long run....... who gives a f_ck!!!! jay's not the god MC and neither is wayne!!! jay'san old man favorable to east coast & old men, not including me!!!
:mad:victim!!!:mad:
Sunzoo aka LC
11-14-07, 10:34 PM
art i feel what you sayin other than jay being a dumbed down nas
how is he a dumbed down nas when jay can do things that nas cant...or never could do on the mic? his flow is far to fluid, even on reasonable doubt to be confined to some "nas biter", he created his own lane, he took the foundation that jaz, kane and slick rick gave him and expanded on it to make it his own
nas is a direct decendant of rakim, jay is of kane...other than the fact that they are top 5, musically they really have nothing to do with eachother especially early in their career, how does a "nas clone" maintain a steady stream of LYRICAL smash singles? nas has had his share of hits...but in comparison to jay? no contest, nas was playing catch up to jay around vol.1 and 2 and having to do his best jay impression to keep up with the rest of his contemporaries, he himself said that after a while he didnt feel special any more because there were so many cats doing some great ****, he felt he had to step it up and get a "hit" single to compete with the wu, big, pac and jay-z's of the time
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