Does everybody agree that Ja Rule outsold Jay Z from 99-03?

[5 Grand]

I'm just wondering if we all agree?

[fundz]

lol

[Legendary]

:laugh:

[houston911]

its factual, no need for opinions. how could you not agree???

nelly outsold him too btw

[PLEDGE]

pain is love outsold blueprint and great depression. 99-02 was murder incs era, not rocafellas.

[5 Grand]

So my question is, if Jay Z is as great as people say he is, then how come there's no 1 time period when he was the biggest selling artist in NY?

I doubt if you can name 1 year when he outsold the competition in NY

I think Vol 2 sold 4X plat in 98, but so did Lauryn Hill and DMX (I think) Also, Will SMith sold 5X plat in 98 but he's from Philly.

[kanethegreat]

according to riaa

Jay-Z:

Vol 3 = 3x Platinum (1999)
Dynasty = 2x Pltinum (2000)
Blueprint = 2x Platinum (2001)
Best Of Both Worlds = Platinum (2002)
Blueprint² = 3x Platinum (2002)
The Black Album = 2x Platinum (2003)


Ja Rule:

Venni Vetti Vecci - Platinum (1999)
RULE 3:36 - 3x Platinum (2000)
Pain Is Love - 3x Platinum (2001)
The Last Temptation - Platinum (2002)

Jay-Z takes it

[PLEDGE]

So my question is, if Jay Z is as great as people say he is, then how come there's no 1 time period when he was the biggest selling artist in NY?
I doubt if you can name 1 year when he outsold the competition in NY
I think Vol 2 sold 4X plat in 98, but so did Lauryn Hill and DMX (I think) Also, Will SMith sold 5X plat in 98 but he's from Philly.

yeh vol 2 went 5 times plat i think, his highest selling one. and what do you know, that was the one with ja rule on it.

[Legendary]

pain is love outsold blueprint and great depression. 99-02 was murder incs era, not rocafellas.

Why did I know that the Ja squad was gonna take over the thread...Is that you crack-child???

[12thStreetNE]

you guys are fukkin pathetic. you know a rapper sucks when his argument rests on record sales

[Legendary]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3SI-iO-zTc

[kanethegreat]

So my question is, if Jay Z is as great as people say he is, then how come there's no 1 time period when he was the biggest selling artist in NY?
I doubt if you can name 1 year when he outsold the competition in NY
I think Vol 2 sold 4X plat in 98, but so did Lauryn Hill and DMX (I think) Also, Will SMith sold 5X plat in 98 but he's from Philly.

Vol. 2 sold 5 million

it's not about selling the most when viewed as being the illest either, as Vanilla Ice and Hammer would be named as kings. What's impressive about Jay's numbers is his consistency. With as many albums as he has, others would have been fell off and lost their fanbase (ex. DMX, LL Cool J, Ja Rule, Master P etc)

[5 Grand]

according to riaa
Jay-Z:
Vol 3 = 3x Platinum (1999)
Dynasty = 2x Pltinum (2000)
Blueprint = 2x Platinum (2001)
Best Of Both Worlds = Platinum (2002)
Blueprint² = 3x Platinum (2002)
The Black Album = 2x Platinum (2003)
Ja Rule:
Venni Vetti Vecci - Platinum (1999)
RULE 3:36 - 3x Platinum (2000)
Pain Is Love - 3x Platinum (2001)
The Last Temptation - Platinum (2002)
Jay-Z takes it

your numbers are suspect, I remember hearing that Ja Rule was selling 4X and 5X plat

[kanethegreat]

your numbers are suspect, I remember hearing that Ja Rule was selling 4X and 5X plat

They are straight from riaa.com, so you can go check them yourself. You can hear whatever you want, but RIAA are the ones who give out the certifications, so their word is better than anyone elses

[5 Grand]

They are straight from riaa.com, so you can go check them yourself. You can hear whatever you want, but RIAA are the ones who give out the certifications, so their word is better than anyone elses

you are a liar because I checked RIAA.com and Ja Rule isn't listed

[kanethegreat]

you are a liar because I checked RIAA.com and Ja Rule isn't listed

Every artist who has been certified before is listed. You need to check again

[5 Grand]

Every artist who has been certified before is listed. You need to check again

You are right and I am wrong.

but he didn't outsell DMX

And Lauryn Hill sold 8X plat with 1 album


yeah, Jay Z was doing big things, but he wasn't the clear cut biggest artist in NY. Lemme Check Will SMith's numbers

[PLEDGE]

5 Grand, those numbers where ja did 6 milli were ww numbers. but on the real, record sales dont really matter

[5 Grand]

Will Smith sold 9X plat with Big WillieStyle and 2X plat with Willenium.

So Will SMith outsold Jay Z from 97-00

[PLEDGE]

Why did I know that the Ja squad was gonna take over the thread...Is that you crack-child???

how did i know a fa99ot like you would come in and try to take away from the truth of my statement.

[grock2727]

So my question is, if Jay Z is as great as people say he is, then how come there's no 1 time period when he was the biggest selling artist in NY?
I doubt if you can name 1 year when he outsold the competition in NY
I think Vol 2 sold 4X plat in 98, but so did Lauryn Hill and DMX (I think) Also, Will SMith sold 5X plat in 98 but he's from Philly.

Because it's never been about sales, it's about consistency. It's also a fact that Jay has never had a number one single, yet he consistently sells millions and he debuts at number one so much that the only artists that can fuk with him are Elvis and the Beatles, not even the likes of Madonna, Michael Jackson or Prince are fukin with him. Consistency is the key, you gotta remember he's seen the DMX's, Nelly's and Ja Rules come and go, like Jay said:

"Rappers came and went, I've been here from the start
I seen them put it together, watched them take it apart
Seen the rovers roll up wit ribbons
I seen them re-po'd, re-sold then re-driven
So when I reload, he holds #1 position
When you hot I'm hot
And when your feet cold, mines is sizzelin"

[fundz]

why are people bringing up vol 2?

wasn't it released in 98?

not that any of this matters

[Legendary]

how did i know a fa99ot like you would come in and try to take away from the truth of my statement.

Admit it you loved this song when it first dropped...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3SI-iO-zTc

[TUPACALYPSE]

eminem has outsold the infamous camel from 1999 to 2007 jay lost

[addicted2u]

its factual, no need for opinions. how could you not agree???
nelly outsold him too btw


hahaha yea.. thats what i was thinking

[Swagger]

i think he did move more records than jay

but where did it get him