Jay ruined the game since he became president.

[traqz3001]

Ever since he became resident he's been going for dolo. Using all the budget on his projects. Look how week the game got ever since he became president. You think its just coincidence? Many def jam artists have been complaining about him, but not actually saying his name.
Look Jermain Dupri has def jam south and he has been doing a much better job than Jay. And LL cool J made some good points about this, noreaga complained about this, Joe buddens complained about this. What other artist has blown since he became president? Please give me evidence to the contrary. I know this is not new news but its important and I don't know why people aint talking bout this. Id like to see def jams financial info for the last 12 quarters and compare them to the previous. I would be shocked if def jam resigned him as pres.
Check this out *****es!!!
http://bgdboom.blogspot.com/2007/11/video-ll-cool-j-speaks-on-jay-zs-def.html#links

[boojitede]

the south. close thread

[5 Grand]

I bet every artist that falls off complains about the boss.

I'm sure Joe Budden was complaining before Jay Z became pres

[Clem]

Jermaine doesn't run Def Jam South.

[Kingofkings]

LL cool j dropped an wack album, Red dropped an wack album, dmx is a crack head, ghost dropped his 2, methodman dropped an album..
Nas dropped.. His own projects AG has got avarage promotion and KC had sponsors what are you talking about? Luda, Kanye, jeezy, ross, fab, juelz, rihanna, ne-yo has all done really well..
Def jam can't do everything song..

[TheY2DreProblem]

the south. close thread


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[POINT84]

everyone that complained dropped an album couldnt hold a candle to AG. Not to say I dissagree with your point, but its just the sad truth. conflict of interests? yes, does that mean we deserve bull**** being forced on us? umm...No. and its no hate, honestly if you listen to atleast Red's album, its overwhelmingly apparent that he is lyrically more skilled and sharper than Jay, does that mean he has the passion/will/ or even concern to take things to the next level musically? Hell NO. (and this is just my opinion based on albums, I dont know these guys and dont pretend to)

most these guys look like they are happy with debuting at number 1, going plat, smokin and ****ing and taking care of their people or whatever their concerned with. Its pretty obvious J (and hate all you want but artists from the south too) are playing for something bigger and frankly i and most people would rather see that than you dropping an album for dropping an albums sake. or just because ur a rapper.

The only thing Ive agreed with LL on is rather than giving him the position, Def Jam shouldve just paid him the money he 'deserved' (tricky word) as an artist, same **** really- the jealousy wouldve shown up another way.

[aka 80's Kid]

Were Method Man, Redman, and LL on fire before Jay became Pres?

No.

LOL, Method Man's first single is about everybody criticizing him for falling off.

LOL at LL acting like Mama Said Knock U Out was just a few years ago.

[TheY2DreProblem]

LL is pretty much known to every hip-hop fan, its not about promotion- its either people are gonna buy it or not.

[sporticus]

Ever since he became resident he's been going for dolo. Using all the budget on his projects. Look how week the game got ever since he became president.

Neyo 2x plat +
Rhianna plat, multiple gold and plat singles
Jeezy 2x plat
Rick Ross Gold plus
Fabolous Gold

Jay's KC was paid for by Budweiser and only got two videos regardless. So you're way off.




You think its just coincidence? Many def jam artists have been complaining about him, but not actually saying his name.

Def Jam is doing better than ever. These artists are excuse makers.

Neyo, Rhianna, Rick Ross, Fabolous, Nas, Jeezy, and Luda have nothing but positive things to say. Def Jam has grown every year since he's been there.



Look Jermain Dupri has def jam south and he has been doing a much better job than Jay.

He is NOT on Def Jam South, he's Island. And the only thing he's dropped is Jagged Edge which flopped.


And LL cool J made some good points about this, noreaga complained about this, Joe buddens complained about this.

Complained about what? Joe Budden is in the same category as Young Leek. Do you see Young Leek complaining about not getting a release? Do you see the hundreds of developmental artists on Arista and Interscope whining about not getting a release or complaining about catching a brick? LL Cool J also said that Jay should've had other artists on the AG soundtrack, showing his ignorance to the face that Jay's album is not a soundtrack.



What other artist has blown since he became president? Please give me evidence to the contrary.

Rick Ross (brokered the deal)
Jeezy
Rhianna (signed by Hov personally)
Neyo (ditto)

[traqz3001]

2 of the artist you are saying are R&B so they don't really count. Young Jeezy had a buzz for awhile and he's south anyways. The other two that people are citing just went gold, since when is that great. Thats a handful of artists in 3 years that is not a high success rate. Without LL def jam would most likely not still be here so his say has some weight, he had the first release on def jam in 1984-I need a beat

[TUC2DaBoot]

2 of the artist you are saying are R&B so they don't really count. Young Jeezy had a buzz for awhile and he's south anyways. The other two that people are citing just went gold, since when is that great. Thats a handful of artists in 3 years that is not a high success rate. Without LL def jam would most likely not still be here so his say has some weight, he had the first release on def jam in 1984-I need a beat

Fabolous (gold) >>> Cam'ron (last album went foil) and Jim Jones (top 5 single like Fab and still couldn't do gold)

Rick Ross (gold) >>> Plies (2 big singles and not at 300k), Rich Boy (300k after a huge single), everybody on g-unit minus 50, Cham's new album (even though Cham's album is 50x better than Ross's...), Yung Joc, Mims, Huey...

So yeah, gold for first album/second album artists is nice especially since 85% of rappers ain't hittin that...

I say Fab's is cool b/c this is his resurgence after 3 years... so not bad.

[hiphop3000]

2 of the artist you are saying are R&B so they don't really count. Young Jeezy had a buzz for awhile and he's south anyways. The other two that people are citing just went gold, since when is that great. Thats a handful of artists in 3 years that is not a high success rate. Without LL def jam would most likely not still be here so his say has some weight, he had the first release on def jam in 1984-I need a beat
wow!!!defjam is a label,thats in it for the money.u think they give a **** on whether the cd thats selling in house,metal or rnb??so what about jeezy having a buzz before?the fact that they were able to get him there and not at some other labels says a lot-his cd also sold quite a lot in other areas outside atl.+do u mind naming labels that did so much better??

[fucthat]

2 of the artist you are saying are R&B so they don't really count. Young Jeezy had a buzz for awhile and he's south anyways. The other two that people are citing just went gold, since when is that great. Thats a handful of artists in 3 years that is not a high success rate. Without LL def jam would most likely not still be here so his say has some weight, he had the first release on def jam in 1984-I need a beat

and with that u destroy ur own argument... because if Jeezy can built his own buzz minus Jay-Z and def Jam, what stops the rest of these people from creating there own buzz...

does anyone actually think LLs last album deserved to go plat?

Better yet, does anyone actually think these rappers would have recouped the money spent on promotion had they gotten the big promotional push?

did any one makin a fuss about LL not being promoted right actually buy the album?

[Ted dibiasi]

Blah bla bladiblah

AG is gonna do sudoku numbers:laugh:

[boojitede]

Neyo 2x plat +
Rhianna plat, multiple gold and plat singles
Jeezy 2x plat
Rick Ross Gold plus
Fabolous Gold
Jay's KC was paid for by Budweiser and only got two videos regardless. So you're way off.
Def Jam is doing better than ever. These artists are excuse makers.
Neyo, Rhianna, Rick Ross, Fabolous, Nas, Jeezy, and Luda have nothing but positive things to say. Def Jam has grown every year since he's been there.
He is NOT on Def Jam South, he's Island. And the only thing he's dropped is Jagged Edge which flopped.
Complained about what? Joe Budden is in the same category as Young Leek. Do you see Young Leek complaining about not getting a release? Do you see the hundreds of developmental artists on Arista and Interscope whining about not getting a release or complaining about catching a brick? LL Cool J also said that Jay should've had other artists on the AG soundtrack, showing his ignorance to the face that Jay's album is not a soundtrack.
Rick Ross (brokered the deal)
Jeezy
Rhianna (signed by Hov personally)
Neyo (ditto)

COSIGN. not to mention interscope was #1 when hov took over. now dj came for that spot like luda.

[MistaDruCartier]

I am sorry to say none of you know what your talking about.. kinda.
Check this DefJam is not number one.. Interscope still is number 1
Jay is a so so president, only people that keep coming out are him and Jeezy lol
and Jeezy was hot before Defam thanks to BMF (signing him was a no brainer) but Jeezy wasnt selling like that he was barely Gold , but Jay did that Doe Boys Remix.. and the radio people actually started to work that Akon record so he went plat,. but what y'all dont see is that DefJam splits the profits with Coperate Thugz.. so they are not really seeing that much money.

Rihanna is a bust this is her 3 album and no she is not plat, her marketing budget is very very very large she has never recouped<----never. rick Ross is signed to slipe and slide he went gold big deal so did Joe Budden lol.. and the split profits also. Neyo is different story he actualy makes money for DefJam. See what most of you don't understand is that DefJam spends alot of money in marketing that you people leave out of equations.If I remember Rihanna was like 15 million..<---(for the last Album) she's in the Red and been there since she started and recording. Fab didn't recoup much either !!! And the Problem with Jay is he isnt helping some of the artist on the label. He will get on a song with Jeezy or Rick Ross to make them sell but , why wont he do it for all of the Artist..What happen to Young Gunz, Peedi Crack.

Redman it was kinda L.A Ried's fault red came to them with a finished album and they just put it out.. with no support ! I know these things because i have worked there atleast when Lyor and Kevin and i have alot of friends left there and thy speak. Don't know if y'all even remember but they fired a bunch of people in the last 2-3 years because thay have no money.. but Jayz was getting a new office constructed worth millions, and now Jermaine that doesnt even stay out here hasa office being built worth millions lol.. **** is funny..

If you people really know how the Record Biz works you wouldn't believe it

Ps.. Budwieser brought 300,000 Kingdom Comes and gave them away .. thats how he came it at number one. And yes AG was a Soundtrack, just as Roc la Familia was supposed to be a Rocafella crew Album then he was supposed to coming out with his Album "The Ghostwritier" after Roc LA.. but he switched it. See you people don't remember **** like that. Jay has a ego like all men how would you feel if the ***** you didnt believe in as a rapper comes out every time and sells 3 million (Hi Kanye) and u supposed to be the greatest rapper alive.This is real talk.. Jay isnt helping eveyone on the label

[POINT84]

I am sorry to say none of you know what your talking about.. kinda.
Check this DefJam is not number one.. Interscope still is number 1
Jay is a so so president, only people that keep coming out are him and Jeezy lol
and Jeezy was hot before Defam thanks to BMF (signing him was a no brainer) but Jeezy wasnt selling like that he was barely Gold , but Jay did that Doe Boys Remix.. and the radio people actually started to work that Akon record so he went plat,. but what y'all dont see is that DefJam splits the profits with Coperate Thugz.. so they are not really seeing that much money.

Rihanna is a bust this is her 3 album and no she is not plat, her marketing budget is very very very large she has never recouped<----never. rick Ross is signed to slipe and slide he went gold big deal so did Joe Budden lol.. and the split profits also. Neyo is different story he actualy makes money for DefJam. See what most of you don't understand is that DefJam spends alot of money in marketing that you people leave out of equations.If I remember Rihanna was like 15 million..<---(for the last Album) she's in the Red and been there since she started and recording. Fab didn't recoup much either !!! And the Problem with Jay is he isnt helping some of the artist on the label. He will get on a song with Jeezy or Rick Ross to make them sell but , why wont he do it for all of the Artist..What happen to Young Gunz, Peedi Crack.

Redman it was kinda L.A Ried's fault red came to them with a finished album and they just put it out.. with no support ! I know these things because i have worked there atleast when Lyor and Kevin and i have alot of friends left there and thy speak. Don't know if y'all even remember but they fired a bunch of people in the last 2-3 years because thay have no money.. but Jayz was getting a new office constructed worth millions, and now Jermaine that doesnt even stay out here hasa office being built worth millions lol.. **** is funny..

If you people really know how the Record Biz works you wouldn't believe it

Ps.. Budwieser brought 300,000 Kingdom Comes and gave them away .. thats how he came it at number one. Jay has a ego like all men how would you feel if the ***** you didnt believe in as a rapper comes out every time and sells 3 million (Hi Kanye) and u supposed to be the greatest rapper alive.This is real talk.. Jay isnt helping eveyone on the label


son..besides all the speculative jibber jabber you have in that post, there are no facts. Bud bought 300,000 copies of jays album?

Like I said before all the artists that are complaining dropped albums that couldnt hold a candle to AG, so i dont see why deserve ANY push

[Classics]

What other artist has blown since he became president? Please give me evidence to the contrary.

Rick Ross
Young Jeezy
Juelz Santana
Fabolous
Rihanna
Neyo
Ghostface

I mean their stock rose from before he was President and looking back now.

[MistaDruCartier]

son..besides all the speculative jibber jabber you have in that post, there are no facts. Bud bought 300,000 copies of jays album?
Like I said before all the artists that are complaining dropped albums that couldnt hold a candle to AG, so i dont see why deserve ANY push


Speculative...lol i spent 4 years there... show me then who on here is talking the truth.. If i am Speculating how does anyone here no DefJam is number 1??? Show me who knows if people really recoup???? Show Me??? I understand your point .. that means u should even read anyones thread here?? What do u think when 50 said no way can u drop 90 percent from the first week saled unless *****s is buying there own albums..lol i can tell u alot of ways how to boost albums sales... *****z buy there albums back then sell it to Best Buy and Walmart for discounted prices.. thats why walmart and best buy **** is always cheaper!! **** outta here... 50 explained the whole **** on the radio one time.. hell.. it was in the Source Magazine (when they said Jimmy Ivine was a Racist, and Em had that freestyle with the him call blacks *****z.. give or take a issue) *****z manipulate sales..

Jay Marketing Budget was like 15 million.. he went plat do u thing he recouped???? I think Def make like 7-10 dollars a CD. times that buy a million you still in the red!!.. thats not counting videos... and recording


Come check me out
There are 3 Ex-Defjam Employess right on my Toplist one worked For Rocafella, the other was a assistant to an A&R like i was. and the other is Tina Davis brother, if you don't know who Tina is she signed Neyo, she is the one that found Chris Brown She was my boss there ..She Was Senior VP of A&R

But im only talking nonsense right

http://www.myspace.com/handsomenyfella

[fucthat]

DMX left Def Jam to go to Sony because he wasnt getting the attention and promotion from Def Jam....

quick question... is he better off at Sony?

[kanethegreat]

Speculative...lol i spent 4 years there... show me then who on here is talking the truth.. If i am Speculating how does anyone here no DefJam is number 1??? Show me who knows if people really recoup???? Show Me??? I understand your point .. that means u should even read anyones thread here?? What do u think when 50 said no way can u drop 90 percent from the first week saled unless *****s is buying there own albums..lol i can tell u alot of ways how to boost albums sales... *****z buy there albums back then sell it to Best Buy and Walmart for discounted prices.. thats why walmart and best buy **** is always cheaper!! **** outta here... 50 explained the whole **** on the radio one time.. hell.. it was in the Source Magazine (when they said Jimmy Ivine was a Racist, and Em had that freestyle with the him call blacks *****z.. give or take a issue) *****z manipulate sales..

Jay Marketing Budget was like 15 million.. he went plat do u thing he recouped???? I think Def make like 7-10 dollars a CD. times that buy a million you still in the red!!.. thats not counting videos... and recording


Come check me out
There are 3 Ex-Defjam Employess right on my Toplist one worked For Rocafella, the other was a assistant to an A&R like i was. and the other is Tina Davis brother, if you don't know who Tina is she signed Neyo, she is the one that found Chris Brown She was my boss there ..She Was Senior VP of A&R

But im only talking nonsense right

http://www.myspace.com/handsomenyfella

Give it up man... nobody believes you

People can whine and complain all they want, but Def Jam is doing better than just about every other label that specializes in Rap and R&B. You never hear people complaining about other labels who are putting out flops left and right though

[Freshology]

I am sorry to say none of you know what your talking about.. kinda.
Rihanna is a bust this is her 3 album and no she is not plat, her marketing budget is very very very large she has never recouped<----never.


See what most of you don't understand is that DefJam spends alot of money in marketing that you people leave out of equations.If I remember Rihanna was like 15 million..<---(for the last Album) she's in the Red and been there since she started and recording. Fab didn't recoup much either !!!

So let me get this straight Rhianna who is considered 'hot' right now is getting great promo but isn't selling... She was given a great first single with a strong 2nd single & a decent 3rd... The effort was put in... Yet she's not selling... Is Jay to blame for that???? She ruled the first half of '07... I mean what else can you do in that situation???

But yet you expect Def Jam to put money into lesser acts when the bigger acts aren't recouping??? I mean that's what you're saying correct??? Lol my gosh that's silly



And the Problem with Jay is he isnt helping some of the artist on the label. [B]He will get on a song with Jeezy or Rick Ross to make them sell but , why wont he do it for all of the Artist..What happen to Young Gunz, Peedi Crack.


Lol... JAY AGAIN??? So LA Reid is just folding his hands right? B/C LA Reid has no powere right?? On one hand people say Jay has no power at DJ yet he's crippiling eveyones career... If its a success then Jay has no hand in it... If its a failure Jay's to blame... Fickle beings you are...

Young Gunz & Peedi Crack??? Oh did you forget that the Gunnerz dropped an album at the beginning of Jay's tenure that didn't do well??? Buy yet you want him to fork more cash to rush out another album to flop again so you can come running to point the finger at him and call him a bad business man/ president... Smh... And Crack??? Its called good timing my dude... If he released Peedi too early he wouldn't have done well... Maybe you aren't familiar with the climate of music right now... That's why Kanye dropped, then Jay to warm things up... He's bringing the heavy hitters first next is Free, then Beans... I mean that's how a good executive goes about business my man!! Next year you gun Young Chris, Peedi, Tru... And hopefully Chris does well so with that buzz the gunnerz can come back with strong potential...

And Jay has made guest appearances on Fab's album, Tru's mixtape, Freeway's album, Uncle Murda joints... He's there son... Get your facts straight... You're not the only one that has knowledge of the music bizz...

Next:

Redman it was kinda L.A Ried's fault red came to them with a finished album and they just put it out.. with no support ! [B]I know these things because i have worked there atleast when Lyor and Kevin and i have alot of friends left there and thy speak. Don't know if y'all even remember but they fired a bunch of people in the last 2-3 years because thay have no money.. but Jayz was getting a new office constructed worth millions, and now Jermaine that doesnt even stay out here hasa office being built worth millions lol.. **** is funny..
You said you worked while Lyor was around???? So that means you're aware of the stat DJ was in when he left right??? Why not mention that the next time you make your argument... Artist were complaining before Jay came into office - the same office held by Lyor... DJ was bringing in around what 600-700 mill per annually in the late 90's & early 00's when DMX, Jay, & Ja were all moving units... Def Soul was there bring in dough... But Def Soul folded... They had to merge Island Music with DJ just to keep it above water... Lyor was making bad moves & was catching a bad rep... He lost DJ a lot of money...

You remember the TVT lawsuit??? Among other issues - All under Lyors watch... Today DJ bigest issue is that veteran artists aren't happy... They weren't hppy when Lyor was around... DJ was losing money before Jay came in...

Again... You're not the only one that knows the bizz...

Next:

Ps.. Budwieser brought 300,000 Kingdom Comes and gave them away .. thats how he came it at number one. And yes AG was a Soundtrack, just as Roc la Familia was supposed to be a Rocafella crew Album then he was supposed to coming out with his Album "The Ghostwritier" after Roc LA.. but he switched it. See you people don't remember **** like that. Jay has a ego like all men how would you feel if the ***** you didnt believe in as a rapper comes out every time and sells 3 million (Hi Kanye) and u supposed to be the greatest rapper alive.This is real talk.. Jay isnt helping eveyone on the label[B]

And now record sales denote level of talent.... Lol you can't be serious... Nelly is one underrated muthafukka then lol...

And the next time you tune into TRL or 106 & you see albums being passed out in the crowd you should ask yourself how that came about... Ask yourself how BMG gets cd to ship out to customers for free...



[B]What do u think when 50 said no way can u drop 90 percent from the first week saled unless *****s is buying there own albums..lol i can tell u alot of ways how to boost albums sales... *****z buy there albums back then sell it to Best Buy and Walmart for discounted prices.. thats why walmart and best buy **** is always cheaper!! **** outta here... 50 explained the whole **** on the radio one time.. hell.. it was in the Source Magazine (when they said Jimmy Ivine was a Racist, and Em had that freestyle with the him call blacks *****z.. give or take a issue) *****z manipulate sales..

It was 70% drop not 90%... And if you're not aware 50's album sales dropped by 80% the following week... I'm guessing Jay went over to Interscope and held the offices hostage so he could incrs 50 sales... B/c obviously the sales dropped tremendously... Oh but Interscope doesn't do that??? OK so explain the drop in sales??? Or are you gonna say its different in Interscopes case?? Anything to keep Jay on the bad list huh??

Do some research on the type of audience & age group that buy rap albums and how it pertains to the current state of music and maybe that will answer your question...


If you're not aware the ENTIRE music industry is in a slump not just DJ... DJ is actually doing well compared to most labels in the industry... But the presidents and executives at other labels don't sheist their artists; its only DJ and its only Jay... Not Reid... DJ is the only label that has artists that don't release albums right??? I Guess that's what happens when you're the celebrity that Jay is... You get blamed for more problems than the Chairman yet no one wants to acknowledge that you have any power...

He's certainly made people forget about the most infamous 'career holders' in rap history: Diddy & Dame... Did people forget about how hated they were for not putting out albums??? Seems so...


Jay Marketing Budget was like 15 million.. he went plat do u thing he recouped???? I think Def make like 7-10 dollars a CD. times that buy a million you still in the red!!.. thats not counting videos... and recording


Exactly my point... So DJ in the red BUT they should dish out MORE dollars to artist that won't recoup all for the sake of them being veterans??? Smh... Bad business... And every label is a business first before anything else...



Come check me out
There are 3 Ex-Defjam Employess right on my Toplist one worked For Rocafella, the other was a assistant to an A&R like i was. and the other is Tina Davis brother, if you don't know who Tina is she signed Neyo, she is the one that found Chris Brown She was my boss there ..She Was Senior VP of A&R

But im only talking nonsense right

http://www.myspace.com/handsomenyfella

I wouldn't call it nonsense...

It doesn't matter who you worked for or who you've been around... That doesn't automatically justify what you're saying or mean what you're saying is correct... As I've already pointed out...

At the end of the day I just hope you don't plan on running a record label of any kind in the future... No disrespect...

[Kingofkings]

Kingdom come is 2x platinum, sold 700k first week.
He had sponsors supporting him with major money, no speculated numbers cause nobody knows without the dudes at defjam.. But most of the sponsoring was just promotion jay himself.. 6 videos like 50 cent + *****cat dolls, eminem, akon, mary j blige, timbo, timberlake and all the promotion + the promotion acting with kanye west = more than the budwiser, hp.... bla bla..

[fucthat]

Kingdom come is 2x platinum, sold 700k first week.
He had sponsors supporting him with major money, no speculated numbers cause nobody knows without the dudes at defjam.. But most of the sponsoring was just promotion jay himself.. 6 videos like 50 cent + *****cat dolls, eminem, akon, mary j blige, timbo, timberlake and all the promotion + the promotion acting with kanye west = more than the budwiser, hp.... bla bla..

good point

[hiphop3000]

Speculative...lol i spent 4 years there... show me then who on here is talking the truth.. If i am Speculating how does anyone here no DefJam is number 1??? Show me who knows if people really recoup???? Show Me??? I understand your point .. that means u should even read anyones thread here?? What do u think when 50 said no way can u drop 90 percent from the first week saled unless *****s is buying there own albums..lol i can tell u alot of ways how to boost albums sales... *****z buy there albums back then sell it to Best Buy and Walmart for discounted prices.. thats why walmart and best buy **** is always cheaper!! **** outta here... 50 explained the whole **** on the radio one time.. hell.. it was in the Source Magazine (when they said Jimmy Ivine was a Racist, and Em had that freestyle with the him call blacks *****z.. give or take a issue) *****z manipulate sales..

Jay Marketing Budget was like 15 million.. he went plat do u thing he recouped???? I think Def make like 7-10 dollars a CD. times that buy a million you still in the red!!.. thats not counting videos... and recording


Come check me out
There are 3 Ex-Defjam Employess right on my Toplist one worked For Rocafella, the other was a assistant to an A&R like i was. and the other is Tina Davis brother, if you don't know who Tina is she signed Neyo, she is the one that found Chris Brown She was my boss there ..She Was Senior VP of A&R

But im only talking nonsense right

http://www.myspace.com/handsomenyfella
wow!!!just in case u have surrounded yourself with too many dumb people,doesnt mean that the ones that everyone you that come across on this board are!!!

buy albums and then sell then to walmart for discounted prices-buy then from who??how???what exactly do u mean by discounted??do u mean buy them at $10 and sell them to wallmart for $7???-u lose $3!!why not just sell them to walmart the way u do for every other copy and make more money!!!-afterall,the only reason why u would companies sell albums to the stores is if they hope that those cds will be sold to people-so why buy them if u know that they will get bought anyway???
-the reason why they're cheaper at those stores is certainly not the one that u gave,its actually very simple,i wont state it because u claim to know everything.u are an idiot.

btw,both jay-z and 50 cent had similar drops,50 is even worse because after 2mnths jay-z was at 1.4mil and 50 is wont even reach that number.

btw,just jay-z didnt spend 15mil,anheuser busch paid him,not the other way round.

so who really funds these companies if they never recoup???where on earth do the get the money to continue

btw,if i had a myspace page,i could also get any famous person/any person who claims to work for famous labels on my toplist.