View Full Version : "Mr. Jay-Z, tell him to please watch his mouth."-Frank Lucas
what the fucc is this old bastard gonna do? he rolling around looking like a crippled California Raisin.
He called Jay-Z, young man! :laugh:
But for real, he did what he did...
Why Frank & Frank Jr. have beef wit Jay-Z all of the sudden
"BIGBRUHBRUH"
11-09-07, 12:22 PM
Jay will have that n1gga smothered in the Nursing home for a few G's!!!
aka 80's Kid
11-09-07, 12:22 PM
number one, Jay Z was NEVER any kind of super-hustler or dope kingpin like Frank, Nick Barnes, Escobar or mafia heads like Gotti or whoever.. he was a mid-level street dealer, who had his little piece of the crack-pie like any other kid his age who was doing the same thing.. acting like he had offshore accounts, real estate and multiple front-businesses at that age.. yeah, Shawn, okay..
He never said he was huge in the game. Said he left with about $900K.
Jzzo357
11-09-07, 12:26 PM
two old men bout to duke it out they should just have a wheelchair race
SmarterLyrics
11-09-07, 12:31 PM
"He just mad cause his ass is old, first thing he do is just pick up the phone(snitch *****)"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vHYuHnXw9_I
lol... i was watching this when i read the post..lmao!
MAD PSYCHE
11-09-07, 12:32 PM
Can You Say Promotion For His Son
I See You Frank
But Don't Get Ya Son In Some Sh1t Over His Head
only the kids on SOHH can make this thread go 4 pages
westkoast2k2
11-09-07, 12:37 PM
Jay shakin' right now...
Ok, maybe not. What can a old, feeble snitch really do to you. It's not like he still got killers. Only thing that dude killin' is glasses of prune juice.
Stick to the script Frank...
Exactly...
Jay-z didn't lie or make anything up. The dood snitched plain and simple. You carry that with you until the end of time. Frank Lucas will be long gone and still be labeled a snitch.
FSCballin
11-09-07, 12:44 PM
Exactly...
Jay-z didn't lie or make anything up. The dood snitched plain and simple. You carry that with you until the end of time. Frank Lucas will be long gone and still be labeled a snitch.
and Jay-Z will say he sees alot of himself in Frank Lucas
:laugh:
LL is starting to sound really bitter. He needs to let it go, count his blessings and stop talking.
http://www.thelifefiles.com/why-is-ll-cool-j-talking-about-jay-z/
westkoast2k2
11-09-07, 12:47 PM
and Jay-Z will say he sees alot of himself in Frank Lucas
:laugh:
Nah you know what he was saying
He is more of a hustler/street dood( frank lucas ) then he is a rapper (ludacris). Lucas and Ludacris rhyme thats why he used it.
Get Right
11-09-07, 01:02 PM
lol @ all these dummies thinking Lucas has to show respect for an entertainer that has gotten rich from immulating the things that he and his people REALLY did in their life time. The streets dont know Shawn Carter the hustler..They know Jay-Z the rap star. Snitch or not its foolish for Jay or anyone else to compare themselves to a n!gga bringing in airplanes full of work from Bangkok..It's easy for Jay to say he wouldnt fold like Lucas when he's never been in a position where he was facing 70 years behind bars. It's easy for him to say he would never snitch because he's not a real criminal and never has been.(criminal records are public knowledge) I can brag about how I wont snitch either..But I'm not in the game I work for IBM..So what am I really sayin? :dry:
:yes:
He's an idiot for saying that too, he is more Luda than Lucas period.
Windex Cleanerz
11-09-07, 01:09 PM
"He just mad cause his ass is old, first thing he do is just pick up the phone(snitch *****)"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vHYuHnXw9_I
MAD PSYCHE
11-09-07, 01:21 PM
:yes:
He's an idiot for saying that too, he is more Luda than Lucas period.
SO JAY NEVER SOLD DRUGS:thumbsdow
REAL TALK HE'S A MIX OF BOTH
NOT SAY JAY IS
BUT GOOD CRIMINALS DON'T HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS
THAT'S KINDA THE POINT
TO AVOID BEING CAUGHT
FSCballin
11-09-07, 01:27 PM
SO JAY NEVER SOLD DRUGS:thumbsdow
REAL TALK HE'S A MIX OF BOTH
NOT SAY JAY IS
BUT GOOD CRIMINALS DON'T HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS
THAT'S KINDA THE POINT
TO AVOID BEING CAUGHT
there u have it... Jay was a great criminal, thats the reason no one ever heard of him takin over la costra nostra
southern_wonder
11-09-07, 01:34 PM
new DVD covers this beef in depth...
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4918/gomcp4.png
I dont know how
...but nas lost in some way
Im sure of it..
MAD PSYCHE
11-09-07, 01:50 PM
there u have it... Jay was a great criminal, thats the reason no one ever heard of him takin over la costra nostra
IF YOU READ I SAID NOT SAYING JAY DID ANYTHING
BUT I DON'T KNOW ANY CRIMINAL THAT WANTS TO BE CAUGHT
gator_king
11-09-07, 01:52 PM
SO JAY NEVER SOLD DRUGS:thumbsdow
REAL TALK HE'S A MIX OF BOTH
NOT SAY JAY IS
BUT GOOD CRIMINALS DON'T HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS
THAT'S KINDA THE POINT
TO AVOID BEING CAUGHT
I never said Jay never sold drugs. Hell I've sold drugs just like 70% of black males that grew up under the poverty line in the inner city. It's nothing to brag about. Fact is even if he did sell drugs thats not what he's known for. He's known for being an entertainer.
And anyone that does real dirt is gonna get muddy unless they're an informant..So the fact that Jay doesnt have a criminal record doesnt prove that he was a criminal genius..It just shows that he exxagerated how deep and long *pause he was involved.
Let me say this one last time. There is no statute of limitations on federal drug conspiracy and money laundering cases and investigations. If Jay-Z really started Roc-A-Fella records with money made from drug trafficking why would he tell everyone?
You've been bamboozled.. But keep running around thinking your favorite rapper was Boston George before he picked up a mic.
It's a shame how Jay raps about the lifestyle Lucas had, then tries to smear him by comparing himself with Lucas solely on the fact that he says he never snitched and Lucas did.
Jay hasn't even been a situation to test the principle of no snitching. So how does he feel entitled to take a subtle shot at the man who profited off such a high level of criminal activity that Jay once dreamed about, which in in turn he rapped about to get rich and blow in the rap game.
SMH @ this nicca Jay. When he says some ill advised shyt, its way over the top.
Better than BIG
More Frank Lucas than Ludacris... when Jays really more Ludacris than Lucas
Frontin like he's grown on an KC when all he did was brag about his new corporate status, and Hollywood lifestyle like a child.
Saying he's the sole reason the ROC flourished.
Modeling himself after Mafioso niccas who weren't averse to snitching
:dry:
etc, etc...
He should address the Lake song......
MAD PSYCHE
11-09-07, 02:14 PM
I never said Jay never sold drugs. Hell I've sold drugs just like 70% of black males that grew up under the poverty line in the inner city. It's nothing to brag about. Fact is even if he did sell drugs thats not what he's known for. He's known for being an entertainer.
And anyone that does real dirt is gonna get muddy unless they're an informant..So the fact that Jay doesnt have a criminal record doesnt prove that he was a criminal genius..It just shows that he exxagerated how deep and long *pause he was involved.
Let me say this one last time. There is no statute of limitations on federal drug conspiracy and money laundering cases and investigations. If Jay-Z really started Roc-A-Fella records with money made from drug trafficking why would he tell everyone?
You've been bamboozled.. But keep running around thinking your favorite rapper was Boston George before he picked up a mic.
WHAT IS REAL DIRT????
N1CCAZ FIX ANYTHING TO MAKE THEY ARGUEMENT SOUND GOOD
NO ONE DOES DIRT TO GET BAGGED
I KNOW JAY WASN'T NOTHIN BUT THE DUDE YOU CALLED TO GET YOU A OZ OR 2
BUT YOU CAN START A LABEL WITH THAT TYPE OF BREAD IF YOU STASH RIGHT
OF COURSE YOU SPICE YOUR SH1T UP FOR THE EXACT REASON YOU SAID
HE SAYS IT HIMSELF ON IGNORENT ****
I KNOW TO MUCH ABOUT REAL LIFE TO BE BAMBOOZLED BY A "RAPPER"
IF YOU LISTEN TO THE MUSIC HE ACTULLY TELLS A MORE ACCURATE VEIW OF HUSTLING THAN MOST
HE NEVER REALLY WENT OVERBOARD
BUT BECAUSE FLOSSES WE MAKE IT SEEM LIKE HE HAS ESCOBAR DREAMS
LISTEN TO THE WORDS
gator_king
11-09-07, 02:20 PM
WHAT IS REAL DIRT????
"I took trips with so much shiet in the whip that if the cops pulled me over the dogs would get sick"
"The mindstate of a n!gga that boosted the crime rate, so much in one city they sent National Guards to get me"
Thats the kind of dirt that Jay has been telling his Stan's he's been doing for years.. Not just a couple of ounces like you're saying now....
But believe what you want.. Whatever helps you sleep at night..
greetings2u
11-09-07, 02:30 PM
Jay shakin' right now...
Ok, maybe not. What can a old, feeble snitch really do to you. It's not like he still got killers. Only thing that dude killin' is glasses of prune juice.
Stick to the script Frank...
Watch the Camel pop **** and apologize Stanley
greetings2u
11-09-07, 02:34 PM
Wow @ allhiphop trying to start a problem. Disgusting gossiping f@gg1t interviewer.
Cosign :laugh:
greetings2u
11-09-07, 02:39 PM
exactly
frank lucas HAS killed a ton of people on record, he's naturally cold blooded, snitch or no snitch.
all rappers have done is talk about it 99.999999% of the time, with a few exceptions.
connections don't die so easily either, I'm sure frank lucas knows people, wasn't he also in touch with other mafias?
and lol at rappers not snitching because they're too gangsta. people forget about t.i?
I like jay-z, and I don't doubt his authority right now, but other rappers in general are fake.Exactly
Mafia ties are for life. A grandson would kill for the friend of his grandfather if he had the right motive and received the instruction to do so from his family.
Freekey Zeekey
11-09-07, 03:01 PM
lol @ all these dummies thinking Lucas has to show respect for an entertainer that has gotten rich from immulating the things that he and his people REALLY did in their life time. The streets dont know Shawn Carter the hustler..They know Jay-Z the rap star. Snitch or not its foolish for Jay or anyone else to compare themselves to a n!gga bringing in airplanes full of work from Bangkok..It's easy for Jay to say he wouldnt fold like Lucas when he's never been in a position where he was facing 70 years behind bars. It's easy for him to say he would never snitch because he's not a real criminal and never has been.(criminal records are public knowledge) I can brag about how I wont snitch either..But I'm not in the game I work for IBM..So what am I really sayin? :dry:
Dog, you're like the only one in this thread making any sense (a few other people too, but you basically said it the best)
I'm in complete disbelief in reading some of these posts. Are you people fukking serious. Jay Z has never in his life done anything remotely on the criminal level that Frank Lucas did, he never had anywhere near that clout. From what he says (and who knows if its the truth anyway) he was basically delivery guy. So how's he gonna sit and make stupid statements like he did in No Hook? Whats even more baffling is that 90% of people postin in this thread are c/s'ing him, are people that BRAINWASHED by these rappers???
Kid-Wave
11-09-07, 03:02 PM
yeah, connections run deep, u a fool if u dont think frank lucas still talks to people
bugsmoran
11-10-07, 01:33 PM
mafia aint sh!t now... they dont bust they gun like they used to
most of them run legit business now.... spoiled sons and grandsons of mobsters who put in work back in da day
mafia aint sh!t now... they dont bust they gun like they used to
most of them run legit business now.... spoiled sons and grandsons of mobsters who put in work back in da day
The biggest crime organisation in the world is the bildenberg group; they control everything.
All you have to do is get your man in the so called 'position of power'; i.e president, prime minister etc
these guys own the $200 trillion oil, gas and electricity industry/network whatever you want to call it.
Kingofkings
11-10-07, 02:12 PM
he is a snitch? he knows that he broke the code.. smh
TheY2DreProblem
11-10-07, 02:14 PM
You kid's are brainwashed.
babylon
11-10-07, 02:14 PM
F*ck a Frank Lucas, the sooner this whole American Gangster crap fades the better.
MartinAsante
11-10-07, 02:34 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
dayum :eek:
Mr. Belvedere
11-10-07, 03:29 PM
Hold up Jay is dickriding his lifestyle. Putting album out based on movies based on his life. He sees so much oh him self in Frank his words
and we should condemn Frank? I was joking around with the Cam **** but Jay fans get dead serious.
You don't make any sense.
bkgiggles86
11-10-07, 03:32 PM
"Like Frank Lucas is cool but i aint trying to snitch
Imma follow the rules no matter how much time imma get
Imma live and die with the decisions that imma pick"
:laugh: poor Frank. Anyone seen American Gangster the movie????
The movie was a big let down for me!
Mr. Belvedere
11-10-07, 03:35 PM
Dog, you're like the only one in this thread making any sense (a few other people too, but you basically said it the best)
I'm in complete disbelief in reading some of these posts. Are you people fukking serious. Jay Z has never in his life done anything remotely on the criminal level that Frank Lucas did, he never had anywhere near that clout. From what he says (and who knows if its the truth anyway) he was basically delivery guy. So how's he gonna sit and make stupid statements like he did in No Hook? Whats even more baffling is that 90% of people postin in this thread are c/s'ing him, are people that BRAINWASHED by these rappers???What the fuk are you talking about? Others are brainwashed yet you make no sense.
All Jay-Z said is that Lucas is a snitch which he is or was or whatever which is true. Obviously he respects the ridiculous sh!t he was able to do in the drug game but he doesn't respect what he had to do to minimize his sentence once he got busted. It's pretty simple.
bkgiggles86
11-10-07, 03:38 PM
I never said Jay never sold drugs. Hell I've sold drugs just like 70% of black males that grew up under the poverty line in the inner city. It's nothing to brag about. Fact is even if he did sell drugs thats not what he's known for. He's known for being an entertainer.
And anyone that does real dirt is gonna get muddy unless they're an informant..So the fact that Jay doesnt have a criminal record doesnt prove that he was a criminal genius..It just shows that he exxagerated how deep and long *pause he was involved.
Let me say this one last time. There is no statute of limitations on federal drug conspiracy and money laundering cases and investigations. If Jay-Z really started Roc-A-Fella records with money made from drug trafficking why would he tell everyone?
You've been bamboozled.. But keep running around thinking your favorite rapper was Boston George before he picked up a mic.
I didn't understand Frank Lucas though, dude made a huge business out of this and that was the only way he was eating. While hustlers I know today hustle and also have that good 9-5 job. They hustle to make a little money, but they don't live off it. I can't knock Frank Lucas, because he made some serious money, but did he really think he could have this business forever lol. Dude should've kept this on the low, like the people I know. Salutes Jay for getting out of that lifestyle!!!!!!
Mr. Belvedere
11-10-07, 03:52 PM
The movie was a big let down for me!
How? it was fuking great.
bkgiggles86
11-10-07, 03:56 PM
How? it was fuking great.
It was too long and the story was all over the place, I was also expecting more cameos from T.I. Another thing that bothered me was they focused so much on Russel Crow's personal life, who cares. I wanted to know more about Frank Lucas life!!!!!!
bestofdabest
11-10-07, 04:10 PM
lol @ all these dummies thinking Lucas has to show respect for an entertainer that has gotten rich from immulating the things that he and his people REALLY did in their life time. The streets dont know Shawn Carter the hustler..They know Jay-Z the rap star. Snitch or not its foolish for Jay or anyone else to compare themselves to a n!gga bringing in airplanes full of work from Bangkok..It's easy for Jay to say he wouldnt fold like Lucas when he's never been in a position where he was facing 70 years behind bars. It's easy for him to say he would never snitch because he's not a real criminal and never has been.(criminal records are public knowledge) I can brag about how I wont snitch either..But I'm not in the game I work for IBM..So what am I really sayin? :dry:
well spoken. Smart man right here.
SMH at these young cats.
bestofdabest
11-10-07, 04:13 PM
So you got to have criminal record in order to be a criminal?
Yed u dumbazz. If a nicca is really moving REAL weight, u will be unable to do that shyt without gettin busted!
Sunzoo aka LC
11-10-07, 04:15 PM
i think some of yall are missing the point of the song, and while frank lucas can say what he wants to say, that ***** knows what he did, and the more and more i hear him talk, the more and more i see an old ass man with delusions of grandure, there are several things that he said and keeps saying that dont check out with the history books, first he's saying he's bumpys right hand man but people involved call him a flunkie
so like most MYTHS, not everything about him was as sharp, sofisticated or honerable as the legend makes it to be...at the end of the day he was a SNITCH, i dont care if you're not a criminal, i dont engaged in criminal activity but i know that once i cross that boundery that i'm liable to go to jail or prison for the exchange of that fast money
jay called it like it is...he meant no disrespect behind it but what is he gonna call frank lucas? and jay knows that while there are some parralells between his and lucas' life, he was not THAT major, and the reason he didnt become THAT major is because he became JAY-Z
yall act like he's trying to convince you that he was shipping horse from asia as well...he's saying that in conclusion, MY CHOICE was to go right instead of left, so that i didnt have to put myself in the position of having to snitch...all that being a LEGENDARY STREET HUSTLER IS COOL, we look at legendary hustlers the same way crackas looked at billy the kid...but at the end of the day, after all the folklore wears off and you get to the fat of the story, the consequences of the game far outweight the perks
"like frank lucas is cool, but i aint trying to snitch"
jay had to stop hustling for the very reason, because sooner or later, there was not gonna be no rapping, it was gonna be jail time, people had to convince him to put the game down because he had a real talent, jay was not a kingpin but on a hustlers level he was not some street level herb *****, glorified mule if you will but to have yachts and **** like that in your first rap video is not a common thing
now that some mythical figure is condoning snitching you have *****s defending it lol, da **** outta here...dude is just ashamed to be called what he really is once everything about his legend is stripped away, they coulda called the movie american snitch and it would have worked
bottom line, you live that life...you sign the contract, no matter if you facing life or all that "what would you do", i dont know, i dont care to know, which is why i dont move birds...jay had to switch hustles or else it would be a movie about his dumb ass in jail somewhere
bestofdabest
11-10-07, 04:18 PM
Jay will have that n1gga smothered in the Nursing home for a few G's!!!
LOL!:laugh:
bestofdabest
11-10-07, 04:34 PM
I dont know how
...but nas lost in some way
Im sure of it..
LOL!
Puerto Rican Gary
11-10-07, 04:39 PM
Yed u dumbazz. If a nicca is really moving REAL weight, u will be unable to do that shyt without gettin busted!
false
ReallyBrickCity
11-10-07, 04:42 PM
Where are niccas getting the idea that Jay-Z was some type of king pin? Dude was like the equivalent of a fu.cking lookout. Snitch or not, Jay built his whole rap career off the personas of niccas like Frank and Nicky, knowing he never sold more than a few rocks here and there, and now he's trying to call somebody out to be a snitch. Niccas who were never even in the game hardbody need to just stfu and play their position.
houston911
11-10-07, 04:42 PM
got damn you jay-z stans are at an all time low, seriously
Puerto Rican Gary
11-10-07, 04:44 PM
Jay-Z won't sniitch like Lucas, but he also won't lay a nigguh down in broad day like Frank Lucas. And before you say Jay-Z shot his brother, Lucas put a hit on a cop and his own brother. Dudes was vicious for real
F*ck a Frank Lucas, the sooner this whole American Gangster crap fades the better.
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