The more I think about it, Rza is NOT a top 5 producer

[vocab spill]

barely top10


Pete Rock >>>>

[War Word]

barely top10
Pete Rock >>>>
hiphopsgod

lets chat.

[RochesterSS]

Rza just dropped a new instrumental album

He's still relevant. Still dropping gems.

He is indeed top 3

[Boola Bless]

Shock thread.

[Knowledge God]

Shock thread.

[YYZ_905]

this is the dumbest thread ever
rza top 5 easily
wu tang albums bump start to finish
You Are Gay....And ***got

[Endiphrint]

Primo
Rza
Dr.Dre
Storch
Green Lantern
Sermon
Puffy
Trackmasters
Kanye
Dupri
Daz
Organized Noise
MF Doom
RJD2
El-P
Eminim
Just Blaze
9th Wonder
Marco Polo
Beatminerz



There's an entire list of producers off the tope of my head, pick 5 from them......and Rza doesnt get into the top 5?

[mitchandness]

barely top10
Pete Rock >>>>
whats your top 10 producers list looking like?

[illwill01]

:thumbsdow

[jerichotfx]

Primo
Rza
Dr.Dre
Storch
Green Lantern
Sermon
Puffy
Trackmasters
Kanye
Dupri
Daz
Organized Noise
MF Doom
RJD2
El-P
Eminim
Just Blaze
9th Wonder
Marco Polo
Beatminerz
There's an entire list of producers off the tope of my head, pick 5 from them......and Rza doesnt get into the top 5?
:blink:

[Classics]

barely top10
Pete Rock >>>>
Well Pete Rock is ya #1 so you tell me the other 4 who edge RZA out.

Primo
Dr.Dre
Kanye
Organized Noise


Only people on that list who you can even think mess wit RZA. For like 3 years he produced str8 classics. He does soundtracks now! How he ain't top 5? Nighaz was souped Primo did beats for Christina Aguelira... RZA does soundtracks! Only other rap producer who does those is Dre.

[illwill01]

RZA is goat

[Boola Bless]

RZA is goat

Basically.

[vocab spill]

whats your top 10 producers list looking like?

Pete Rock
Qtip/Ali Shaheed
Jdilla
Madlib
Dre
Kanye West
Jermaine Dupri
Buckwild
Timbaland
Hi-Tek

[illwill01]

Pete Rock
Qtip/Ali Shaheed
Jdilla
Madlib
Dre
Kanye West
Jermaine Dupri
Buckwild
Timbaland
Hi-Tek

:hmm:

[TheT Organization]

You're crazy.

[Endiphrint]

:blink:


I know Em dont deserve mentioning as far as producers are concerned, but I mean damn he did kinda force himself on us as a producer right? If there was ever a producer who was beyond azzcheeks,its Em. I hate to say this but, he wanted to be accepted as a producer so bad that, unfortunately now I view him as more of a horrible producer than one of the great emcees.

[Rzarector7]

Please don't think about it anymore...... Just throw on the first set of solos or 36 and Forever and realize dude produced CLASSIC ALBUMS.

[vocab spill]

:hmm:


dont sleep on Jermaine.........he has hip hop and R&B Classics

[Rzarector7]

dont sleep on Jermaine.........he has hip hop and R&B Classics
He has R&B classics.... Rza has Cuban Linx and that ALONE is just :ohmy:..... Jermaine is not near dude all times.


Oh yeah Liquid Swords too, another flat out MASTERPIECE.

[vocab spill]

You're crazy.


Nah man, I realized it especially from listening to his instrumental CD

and glad to see your blog is back!!

[Kingofkings]

Ghostface 1st
Raekwons 1st
Method Mans 1st
Gzas 1st (2nd)
Wu-tangs 2 first (3 cds)
Odbs First

Are all fuucking classics, production wise they are mad.
And that is 8 classic cds within 93 - 97. how can he not be in anyones top 10, better yet top 5. The only dude who has got as many classics are dre and premo

[RochesterSS]

Ghostface 1st
Raekwons 1st
Method Mans 1st
Gzas 1st (2nd)
Wu-tangs 2 first (3 cds)
Odbs First

Are all fuucking classics, production wise they are mad.
And that is 7 classic cds within 93 - 97.
Funnily enough RZA didn't have the best beat on that album

[Rzarector7]

Nah man, I realized it especially from listening to his instrumental CD
and glad to see your blog is back!!
So a new instrumental CD has to do with all times now? The work he has done should count toward this one as well you think Vocab?

[illwill01]

Funnily enough RZA didn't have the best beat on that album

he did every beat mayne

[Obstical]

I agree with this thread.. and I'm in the minority of people who prefer post-Forever Rza to pre-Forever Rza. But I would never put him in front of Dre, PR, Premo, Tim or even Havoc. At this point, Just Blaze is another one I consider better. Maybe Dilla, too.

Rza = top 10

[hexagram23]

Pete Rock
Qtip/Ali Shaheed
Jdilla
Madlib
Dre
Kanye West
Jermaine Dupri
Buckwild
Timbaland
Hi-Tek

The only 2 names that I can have a serious discussion about on that list is Dre and possibly J-Dilla. If you want to bring up Dupri's R&B sh*t then I gotta bring up Rza's film scores.

Hi-Tek is above Rza? Madlib is above Rza? Are you serious? Kanye, who admitted he more or less stole Rza's "chipmunk" technique, is above Rza? Pete Rock, who ain't had an album out in 5 years, is above Rza?

You didn't really think that list out too much did you?

Fred.

[Kingofkings]

he did every beat mayne
Truemaster produced fish i think?.. or he maybe co-produced it..

[Obstical]

Pete Rock, who ain't had an album out in 5 years, is above Rza?

Soul Survivor II - 2004 >>> Birth of A Prince (2003?)

[hexagram23]

Soul Survivor II - 2004 >>> Birth of A Prince (2003?)

Ok I exaggerated, it's been 3 1/2 years.

Even so, you're putting that one album above "BOAP", "Afro Samurai", and all the random beats he did like "Fatal", "Chamber Of Fear", "Brutality", "The Glide", "State Of Grace", "Presidential MC", etc.? That Pete Rock album is cool but it ain't all that....

Fred.

[Kingofkings]

barely top10
Pete Rock >>>>
Please name Classic albums that pete rock made that are production wise better than
Ironman
Only built for cuban linx
Enter the wu-tang 36 chambers
Wu-tang forever
Tical
Forever
Liquid Swords
Return To the 36 chambers

or are you also one of them who only can name Mecca and the soul brother

[ThaBlkHowlin']

pete rock fell off 1000 years ago aka after the FIRST Soul Survivor (the 2nd was weak)

I ain't heard a classic beat from him since the mid 1990s

Rza still puts out classic joints (not as much as he used to)

[infamouswubird]

pete got beats but rza is a way better producer. the sounds he used influenced mad **** dont kid yaself.

[RochesterSS]

he did every beat mayne
True Master did the beat for Fish....

Step your knowledge game up

[eckohed]

Pete Rock
Qtip/Ali Shaheed
Jdilla
Madlib
Dre
Kanye West
Jermaine Dupri
Buckwild
Timbaland
Hi-Tek
Some of those are reasonable, but Dupri no way. Buckwild is dope but doesnt have near the total body of quality work or the classic albums that Rza does unless you count like the bulk of Word...Life.

To me RZA is incredible. The most original sampler ever to me other than maybe Dilla. My top 5 goes:

Dre
Preemo
Dilla
RZA
Pete

[5 Grand]

Please name Classic albums that pete rock made that are production wise better than
Ironman
Only built for cuban linx
Enter the wu-tang 36 chambers
Wu-tang forever
Tical
Forever
Liquid Swords
Return To the 36 chambers

or are you also one of them who only can name Mecca and the soul brother

RZA is top 5 based on the albums listed above.

Close thread

[Rzarector7]

Truemaster produced fish i think?.. or he maybe co-produced it..
Yeah he might have co produced that song, but Assassination day is better so dead that best beat on the album shyt.......
pete rock fell off 1000 years ago aka after the FIRST Soul Survivor (the 2nd was weak)

I ain't heard a classic beat from him since the mid 1990s

Rza still puts out classic joints (not as much as he used to)
Pete Rock aint been shyt in years man, since what 98? That shyt was cool but damn all times as far as produced albums go Pete Rock and CL have no album like Linx or damn Liquid production wise. Pete Rock is a legend, but fell off eons ago man.
Please name Classic albums that pete rock made that are production wise better than
Ironman
Only built for cuban linx
Enter the wu-tang 36 chambers
Wu-tang forever
Tical
Forever
Liquid Swords
Return To the 36 chambers

or are you also one of them who only can name Mecca and the soul brother
Lets get real here he made cool albums with CL Smooth and great beats on albums here and there, but he never had the resume on ALBUMS RZA had...... Thats just a fukkin fact, period end of story and CS your post.

[beat tape king]

RZA is most likely top 3 of all time. The threadstarter is entitled to his opinion, but everybody else in the world disagrees with him.

[Paul Mooney]

sorry, but Im not feeling Just Blaze.

his tracks sound too poppy in a New Jack Swing sort of way


cant get into his any of his beats

[boombche_stum]

RZA is top 3 IMO. Produced FAR too many classics to be keepin him out of at least top 5.

Dupri? Madlib? Dilla? Hi-tek? Nah, they aint on his level. (Especially Dupri).

I gotta ask why NO nyggas in this thread mentioned Sermon or Havoc though? Nyggas always sleep on them two cats.

[Obstical]

Marley Marl > Rza

[The Nastiest]

you tell yourself anything enough times and you'll eventually start believing it...