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PeopleOfTheBook
10-29-07, 06:02 PM
:huh:

you niccaz make me sick sometimes..literally

Mister Discotheque
10-29-07, 06:11 PM
It's hard to say how rap would even be now if Illmatic had never came out.

Still Shinin
10-29-07, 06:12 PM
sad but true

PeopleOfTheBook
10-29-07, 06:19 PM
sad but true
how is that even close to true?

name an album which has been released after 94 whose lyrics and flow is fukking with Illmatic?

Still Shinin
10-29-07, 06:26 PM
how is that even close to true?
name an album which has been released after 94 whose lyrics and flow is fukking with Illmatic?
u dont get it, im not sayin illmatic isnt classic and yes its better than everything after it, im not talkin of me, try to comprehend what the threadstarter is sayin. u see lyrics doesnt matter anymore, if it aint got catchy hooks or beats these cats call it borin/garbage

Edit: SMH u are the threadstarter, i was co-signin u dumbazz

Lord Mecca
10-29-07, 06:28 PM
Hell no.
Illmatic would fukk up the whole scene... production from Large Professor, Q-Tip, Pete Rock, DJ Premier, L.E.S. in this day would flip the rap world inside out... and dont say nothin about Pitch Black either them n!ggas is garbage (even though I cop their sh!t)

illwill01
10-29-07, 06:32 PM
if album was released today, I would call it the same thing that I call it anyway... the GOAT hip hop album. It would actually seem that much better in today's wack hip hop climate.

Dr.Jr8
10-29-07, 06:34 PM
is not commercial enough.

illwill01
10-29-07, 06:36 PM
and dont say nothin about Pitch Black either them n!ggas is garbage (even though I cop their sh!t)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPpnXNt5mk

that's garbage???

:thumbsdow

bigesco
10-29-07, 06:37 PM
It would actually seem that much better in today's wack hip hop climate.

Nah thats what makes Illmatic :ohmy: cuz it came out in the GOLDEN days of hiphop and it still made everyone :ohmy:

Thats why its the goat album. It was superior quality when quality was abundant

yseJ
10-29-07, 06:38 PM
first of all it would never come out on a major label
second of all, its like asking if war and peace (the book) came out today would people call it classic ? yeah, but there would be so few people reading (listening) it that no one would care

illwill01
10-29-07, 06:42 PM
Nah thats what makes Illmatic :ohmy: cuz it came out in the GOLDEN days of hiphop and it still made everyone :ohmy:
Thats why its the goat album. It was superior quality when quality was abundant

yeah true, but if that album had never came out and Nas never had a deal till now and that was his debut, this year, can you imagine how people would react? Instaed of :ohmy: it would be more like :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

J0ker_973
10-29-07, 06:47 PM
prolly.. whenever i bump an old skool classic in front of youngins.. they always ask whats that wack sh1t and wanna tell me to turn if off so they can bump some singin ass wanna-be hip-hop.. lol youngins sing to songs nowadays.. lol no skunk.. i woulda smacked myself if i ever did that sh1t

Lord Mecca
10-29-07, 06:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPpnXNt5mk
that's garbage???
:thumbsdow
yes... crazy fukkin beat, but lyrically they are trash... hot production, trash lyrics... hence why I say dont mention Pitch Black because they're the only guys with production credits close to Illmatic in todays rap climate (Pete Rock, DJ Premier, Teddy Riley, Alchemist etc.) did you even listen to Pitch Black's albums? don't try and say they're lyrically nice

KingNasir
10-29-07, 06:51 PM
if illmatic was released today no one would know. with all these mixtapes out, a rapper with one or two appearances on other songs wouldnt get as much attention as he did then.

PeopleOfTheBook
10-29-07, 06:52 PM
yeah true, but if that album had never came out and Nas never had a deal till now and that was his debut, this year, can you imagine how people would react? Instaed of :ohmy: it would be more like :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:
basically..

but im sure 80% of the South born and raised have never bumped it..

im not even dissing the South..but if you ask some of these niccaz to name their top 10 albums..its straight comedy

PeopleOfTheBook
10-29-07, 06:55 PM
if illmatic was released today no one would know. with all these mixtapes out, a rapper with one or two appearances on other songs wouldnt get as much attention as he did then.
wrong..

Illmatic came out when Snoop and em was blowing up big on the commercial scene..

Just like then...niccaz aint gonna have no mutha****ing choice but to listen:yes:

titan872006
10-29-07, 07:06 PM
basically..
but im sure 80% of the South born and raised have never bumped it..
im not even dissing the South..but if you ask some of these niccaz to name their top 10 albums..its straight comedy

im prolly one of the few that bumps illmatic in the south but how is it straight comedy if u ask what our top 10 albums are?:confused:
of course we aint gonna be bumpin that east coast boom bap shyt we were raised in a different environment with different slang...

illwill01
10-29-07, 07:13 PM
yes... crazy fukkin beat, but lyrically they are trash... hot production, trash lyrics... hence why I say dont mention Pitch Black because they're the only guys with production credits close to Illmatic in todays rap climate (Pete Rock, DJ Premier, Teddy Riley, Alchemist etc.) did you even listen to Pitch Black's albums? don't try and say they're lyrically nice

No I havn't but that song is lyrically VERY nice... I dunno what you listenin to.

danja29
10-29-07, 07:37 PM
Music always captures a specific time period, and that's what makes it classic. If Illmatic came out today, it wouldn't feel the same because the sh*t would be 13-14 years later. It would sound like a niqqa tryin' to rehash '94. The same way that if Run-DMC's first album came out in '97, muhfukkas wouldn't have paid the sh*t any mind. A lot of albums are classics because of the time they came out... and they just so happen to still sound good for that reason. I grew up during that time and I STILL don't like to hear rappers now tryin' to come out with some new sh*t that sounds like it's from '93. If I wanna hear some '93 sh*t, I'd rather listen to the actual music FROM '93 that I experienced and enjoyed.

Knowledge God
10-29-07, 08:03 PM
man i really cant ven listen to illmatic anymore its just soo old too me and has no replay value, its like the first big l cd i love it but i just cant **** wit it no more

, cuban linx, ironman, some scarface ****, and a few others just never get old tho

illwill01
10-29-07, 08:09 PM
man i really cant ven listen to illmatic anymore its just soo old too me and has no replay value

:ohmy:

Most replay value of any album ever imo. its in my car CD player right now and has been for like a week...

Slang Wright
10-29-07, 08:16 PM
It would be trash to the peepz that matter most......the buying market. It would be labeled somewhere as "Most Slept On" but what satisfaction would that get ya.

And it never was classic to me. A couple of classic tracks but that's it. Even when it first came out.

manuael1
10-29-07, 08:22 PM
i was playing it yesterday in the whip, it has plenty of replay value.

DipSet_No Homo
10-29-07, 08:30 PM
I was bumpin Roots Illadelph Halflife and my 11 yr old cuz told me to turn that wack sh1t off...

her fav song is currently Lil Mama's "Poppin" tho

illwill01
10-29-07, 08:32 PM
I was bumpin Roots Illadelph Halflife and my 11 yr old cuz told me to turn that wack sh1t off...
her fav song is currently Lil Mama's "Poppin" tho

that is truly sad, thats a top 10 hip hop album all time imo

Knowledge God
10-29-07, 10:20 PM
[QUOTE=illwill01;1058214199]:ohmy:

Most replay value of any album ever imo. its in my car CD player right now and has been for like a week...[/QUOT

im not trying to start an argument or whatever but im probably a little older than you and i bought illmatic right around the time when it was written dropped and i thought it was the best **** ever, a decade and some odd years later i just cant **** with it anymore

cuban linx on the other hand i got right when it dropped and i got it playing right now over a decade later

broken_language
10-30-07, 12:18 AM
it would still be my favorite rap album ever released, and nas my favorite mc...far from the complete joke hes been to me for the last however many years.

Regulate94
10-30-07, 12:33 AM
Music always captures a specific time period, and that's what makes it classic. If Illmatic came out today, it wouldn't feel the same because the sh*t would be 13-14 years later. It would sound like a niqqa tryin' to rehash '94. The same way that if Run-DMC's first album came out in '97, muhfukkas wouldn't have paid the sh*t any mind. A lot of albums are classics because of the time they came out... and they just so happen to still sound good for that reason. I grew up during that time and I STILL don't like to hear rappers now tryin' to come out with some new sh*t that sounds like it's from '93. If I wanna hear some '93 sh*t, I'd rather listen to the actual music FROM '93 that I experienced and enjoyed.


lota truth in this

Windex Cleanerz
10-30-07, 12:43 AM
illmatic has replay value

its a timeless album ... hence the word "classic".

I thought we knew this? lol

I agree with the Big L **** tho....big L can get boring after awhile if you overlisten