Real talk though: What did Biggie do that warranted him to be shot?

[DipSet_No Homo]

IMO the only way to justify a murder is MURDER itself..

to my knowledge Biggie never shot or killed anyone... He just rapped about it...and he had nothing to do with the 2 shootings that involved Pac (although he warned Pac about the first one.. but Pac decided to hang around the dudes Big warned him about anyway.. so its Pacs fault...)

Jealously maybe?... how u gonna kill a n1gga cause hes flyer than u?? sh1t is wack b...

Pac kinda had it coming because he whooped that crips ass but all Biggie was doing was chillen and minding his own biz when he got smoked for no reason

sad sh1t really

[fundz]

yeah Pac had it coming whereas Biggie was just unfortunate

[Regulate94]

both really sad..and im a bigger pac fan than big..BUT...bigs is sadder...

cuz b.i.g. wasnt for the drama.....

[JackDaCrack]

Neither guy "deserved" to die.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

he stood next to puffy...suge and puffy had beef with eachother before pac and big got into it, biggie died to tie up loose ends and as get back for puffy supposedly killing one of suges best friends while he was standing in front of him

puffy and suge are responsible for that ****..same *****s that kileld pac hit biggie to "confirm" the whole fake ass east/west BEEF as a way to bring closure to the case in the media so people aint start looking for the real reasons

biggie and pac got caught up in suge and puff's bullshyt and were expendable pieces of the puzzle...pac never wanted to hurt big for real, he just wanted to hurt his pride for being a coward, anybody acting like big was killed FOR pac should know that pac wouldnt have wanted people to touch dude up like that...it was unnecessary and being so young i got hypnotized by the media like "thats what he get for doing pac like that"...see what i'm saying? when there is a tragedy, you can tell scared people whatever you want them to believe before their commen sense sets in and it will probably stick..same **** happend with 911

[Sunzoo aka LC]

both really sad..and im a bigger pac fan than big..BUT...bigs is sadder...
cuz b.i.g. wasnt for the drama.....

dont make dude out to be an angel, he was doing the same **** that pac was, not too long before he got killed he had kicked one of his fans or some **** in the ribs, pac was just in the public eye because of who he was politically, so when he got in trouble everbody knew about it...i mean look at his stint on death row, he got in less trouble there than he did at any point in his career

[DipSet_No Homo]

If Puff killed suges boy he'd be in jail by now...

wasn't it just a party he promoted where alot of folks got killed or sum sh1t?? i remember reading something about that.... Puff threw the party so u blame him?? thats stupid

[MACADO]

He Made Whats Beef and released it at the wrong time.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

If Puff killed suges boy he'd be in jail by now...

wasn't it just a party he promoted where alot of folks got killed or sum sh1t?? i remember reading something about that.... Puff threw the party so u blame him?? thats stupid

what do you mean if he killed somebody puff would be in jail? how many *****s you think suge killed and hasnt done time for a murder rap yet...are you the stupid one? you musta bought into the whole p diddy image...thats some frank sinatra **** homie, puffy is best friends with a dude in the mob, if i find his name i'll come back with it in this thread

and i didnt blame ****..what i'm telling you is, that before biggie and pac came into the picture as going at each other, suge and puffy were already in the middle of a SERIOUS disagreement...people had fell on BOTH sides before biggie and pac ever made a record going at eachother

so yes, while i dont think puffy wanted to get biggie killed, standing next to him put biggie in suge's crosshairs just by association, and once the media jumped all over this "east/west" bull**** as a way to make sense of pacs passing, they went ahead and set up the hit on biggie to make it look that much more convincing, now there HAS to be an east/west rap war where *****s are killing eachother...yea right, this was street ****, nothing to do with rap

puffy is a paper gangster who tries his best to make a good public image, he's the black sammy davis jr. (mob connected, but really a puppet) that ***** is just as dirty as suge was, and was getting extorted by jimmy henchman (when pac found out JH set up the quad shooting, he thought he was part of the bad boy crew, but he was really extorting them cats)

i mean...ask yourself this, how do you have a "problem" with suge knight if you arent moving in the same lane as him in the first place? the way puffy's image was THEN AND NOW, you wouldnt expect him to be moving in the same manner...but how in the **** did they become enemies? to be enemies with somebody, you kinda gotta be making some of the same moves as the other person, feel me?

[Mandizi]

If it wasn't a crooked cop, it was retailiation for Pac, in the mind of a Californian who wanted "revenge".

They probably thought Biggie was bold for coming to Cali, and took advantage of that moment to get payback.

If it was a crooked cop, or a scorn Cali *****, then I don't know who shot Big then.

May he rest in peace.

[MACADO]

just listen to Puffys' ad libs on What's Beef

[DipSet_No Homo]

suge ain't got no bodies b...

n1gga is a college educated football player... he never popped nobody b

[Regulate94]

suge ain't got no bodies b...

n1gga is a college educated football player... he never popped nobody b:confused:


yeah ok...and i have 8 planes, live on the moon, and drink a bottle of 151 everyday

[atl legend]

Nothing warranted neither of their deaths but Biggie was a little stupid and arrogant to go to Cali during that time. Pac should have never got with Deathrow but if I was in jail and that was my only way out I probably would have done the same thing

[MyNamezJon]

I'm goin goin...

back back...

to Cali Cali

[Sunzoo aka LC]

lmao you are a dumb ***** then

almost everybody that knows, or knew something about the shakur case is dead and gone my nigg, suge was a heavily affiliated member of the bloods...*****s were getting stomped to DEATH and death row parties in front of hundreds of people (dj quik and a couple of his peoples beat man lifeless at a death row event)

you're either naive or not as hood as you would like people to believe, i doubt suge was squeezing triggers majority of the time, but he most def is responsible for some *****s not being here, same with puffy, thats what "paper gangsters" do

and suge and puffy were actually cool with eachother, did dirt together, after suge's homie got hit up...suge blamed puffy, and puffys cousin/bodyguard wolfe was murdered

from then on...**** got serious, and if you think about it, pac and big had a seperate issue...but once biggie got with puff, and suge bailed pac out...it's like damn, chose your side...and i dont think EITHER of them knew how serious it was between the two heads of the situations, once they found it out was too late

[euro dirt]

Don't you know his n-gga gutta f-cking kidnap kids, f-ck 'em in they ass, throw 'em over the bridge?

[DipSet_No Homo]

lmao you are a dumb ***** then

almost everybody that knows, or knew something about the shakur case is dead and gone my nigg, suge was a heavily affiliated member of the bloods...*****s were getting stomped to DEATH and death row parties in front of hundreds of people (dj quik and a couple of his peoples beat man lifeless at a death row event)

you're either naive or not as hood as you would like people to believe, i doubt suge was squeezing triggers majority of the time, but he most def is responsible for some *****s not being here, same with puffy, thats what "paper gangsters" do

and suge and puffy were actually cool with eachother, did dirt together, after suge's homie got hit up...suge blamed puffy, and puffys cousin/bodyguard wolfe was murdered

from then on...**** got serious, and if you think about it, pac and big had a seperate issue...but once biggie got with puff, and suge bailed pac out...it's like damn, chose your side...and i dont think EITHER of them knew how serious it was between the two heads of the situations, once they found it out was too late


suge and puff did dirt together?...source?? and it better be some credible sh1t and not some bootleg dvd

plus I coulda swore Puffs bodguard died recently within the last few yrs

while Suges man died in the early 90s.... how u connect the two? :dry:

[Sunzoo aka LC]

for one i dont need to proof for some idiot, if you're really interested you can google that ****, it's well documented by puffy himself that when either he or suge were on their respective coasts they'd kick it, puff would swoop by suges office when he was on the west before all of this went down, same with suge on the east

like i said...when you're in the streets or doing **** like that, moving a certain way...for two people to have "beef", they gotta know some of the same people, they gotta move in some of the same environments...people think puffy is clearn, but he's just like suge...he's just smart enough to not put it out there as his IMAGE

suge didnt give a fucc because he thought he was untouchable...puffy was on some black frank sinatra ****, he's mob connected thru one of his best childhood friends...suge was connected thru david kenner

[DRAFT]

the southside crips were their people at that time...and biggie ran around singing about pacs death with long kiss goodnight..dude even had the nerve to freestyle that **** on los angeles radio station the day he died