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RandyBodek
10-23-07, 12:16 PM
AllHipHop.com: At the same time, your rapprochement with 50 Cent and comments about Cam’ron have made some question your loyalty. How do you address those criticisms?

Jim Jones: Business is business. That s**t that Cam had going on with 50 was frivolous. At the end of the day, people gotta understand, 50 is still the number one artist in the world. [Not] too many people are selling more records than him, I don’t care what genre you in. And at the same time, 50 Cent is still in our generation, as far as how we run through this game. And there’s supposed to be some kind of rapport, some type of alliance among us as far as being peers. I’ve been watching the game and nobody dying. Where I’m from, if you beef somebody gonna end up dead, shot, stabbed, something gonna happen. So for me, it’s all jokes until someone cross the gunline. So until that happens, I’ma go get my money, I’ma do my business. I am Diplomats ‘til the day I die – nobody can question my integrity or question my loyalty. I have no plans to do nothing other than Diplomats business, whatever that may be. It’s always Diplomats first.

AllHipHop.com: Hell Rell’s recent comments about you do seem to suggest a divide in the group…

Jim Jones: Hell Rell and 40 Cal, that’s a touchy situation. If you listen to Hell Rell, he made a couple of statements that he retracted in his recent interviews. But I heard him on a few more interviews and he refused to say anything crazy out his mouth. Hell Rell is just an artist. If you want to put it in street terms, he’s just a soldier. If you want to put it in chess, he’s just a pawn, you smell me? So his opinion really don’t make no money, regardless how you say it, so the s**t don’t count. He’s like a kid who feels like his parents are going through a divorce, which they’re not. He’s just venting how he feels, but he’s opinionless, really, if you look at it. He had an album coming out, he was trying.

Euphanasia
10-23-07, 12:19 PM
AllHipHop.com: At the same time, your rapprochement with 50 Cent and comments about Cam’ron have made some question your loyalty. How do you address those criticisms?
Jim Jones: Business is business. That s**t that Cam had going on with 50 was frivolous. At the end of the day, people gotta understand, 50 is still the number one artist in the world. [Not] too many people are selling more records than him, I don’t care what genre you in. And at the same time, 50 Cent is still in our generation, as far as how we run through this game. And there’s supposed to be some kind of rapport, some type of alliance among us as far as being peers. I’ve been watching the game and nobody dying. Where I’m from, if you beef somebody gonna end up dead, shot, stabbed, something gonna happen. So for me, it’s all jokes until someone cross the gunline. So until that happens, I’ma go get my money, I’ma do my business. I am Diplomats ‘til the day I die – nobody can question my integrity or question my loyalty. I have no plans to do nothing other than Diplomats business, whatever that may be. It’s always Diplomats first.
AllHipHop.com: Hell Rell’s recent comments about you do seem to suggest a divide in the group…
Jim Jones: Hell Rell and 40 Cal, that’s a touchy situation. If you listen to Hell Rell, he made a couple of statements that he retracted in his recent interviews. But I heard him on a few more interviews and he refused to say anything crazy out his mouth. Hell Rell is just an artist. If you want to put it in street terms, he’s just a soldier. If you want to put it in chess, he’s just a pawn, you smell me? So his opinion really don’t make no money, regardless how you say it, so the s**t don’t count. He’s like a kid who feels like his parents are going through a divorce, which they’re not. He’s just venting how he feels, but he’s opinionless, really, if you look at it. He had an album coming out, he was trying.

:gag::gag::gag::gag:

Jim and Cam married????

Nino...J-You-Ice...
10-23-07, 12:21 PM
fukk This Ni99a Talkin Greezy For ? He The Judas...

Hell Rell >>> Jenny In Every Possible Way

Dipset All Day, Fukk Byrdgang

VerbsNotNice
10-23-07, 12:22 PM
Jims my dude but he should stop saying "ya smell me"....

TheY2DreProblem
10-23-07, 12:22 PM
Rell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny Jones.


I'm mad this ni99a even has a deal, cuz he straight up has no talent as an MC.

ferrari f-50
10-23-07, 12:23 PM
**** hell rell. dude is wack juice and what jim is saying is making sense. not once have i heard jim disrespect cam even tho he should. i know cam is stealing money from jim and santana. so tell that ****ing foot soldier pawn to stfu. and will someone tell how much rell sold the first week?

Sedd
10-23-07, 12:24 PM
Damn, he going at Rell like that??

It's sad how things went from family to just an artist.

ferrari f-50
10-23-07, 12:25 PM
fukk This Ni99a Talkin Greezy For ? He The Judas...

Hell Rell >>> Jenny In Every Possible Way

Dipset All Day, Fukk Byrdgang



says the guy with 50 in his avi :laugh: cam doesn't like 50 you ****** poster. oh and neither 50 nor cam knows who you are :laugh:

N*IT*2*WIN*IT
10-23-07, 12:26 PM
Jim speaking the truth, tell Rell stf^ and make $

BlackBulletZZ
10-23-07, 12:30 PM
jim is showin his true sides

went from bein a family to sayin "hes just an artist"

jim a snake, any other rap group wouldn't stand for that

jadakiss "snake ass n!gga you an animal"

Nino...J-You-Ice...
10-23-07, 12:30 PM
says the guy with 50 in his avi :laugh: cam doesn't like 50 you ****** poster. oh and neither 50 nor cam knows who you are :laugh:
:thumbsdow
Shut up fa99ot...for one thing you spend all your posts cheerleadin for 50 cent like your payed for it...Take your own advice.
Second, it is possible to like two artists that have ''beef'', Not every ni99a has gay infatuations with artists and feels the need 2 pledge elegance to one mans dikk..

Grow up

King Jaffe Joe
10-23-07, 12:31 PM
Damn, he going at Rell like that??
It's sad how things went from family to just an artist.

that sh!t is really buggin me out right now

smh @ my favorite band really breaking up. :thumbsdow

dtjones
10-23-07, 12:35 PM
This stuff is probably deeper than we see on the surface that's why is really hard to form an opinion or take sides. I ain't they biggest fan but I do like the dips, it's just another blow to NY hip hop.

BlackBulletZZ
10-23-07, 12:35 PM
"and first diplomats gon break up, and everyday i wake up..."

BlackBulletZZ
10-23-07, 12:36 PM
hell rell > jimmy

lozela
10-23-07, 12:39 PM
Jim Jones is done and he knows it. When he walked tru that door to chill with 50 on rap city, he knew that he had crossed the line. You could see it in his eyes. Same dude that was talking tuff to Mase on hot 97 is on tv chillin with 50. Jimmy is done as far as being a diplomat, I don't understand why he keeps repping the dips like that.

I'm actually glad that Rell called him out like that cause its obvious that no else was gonna adress him.

Mr.Sam
10-23-07, 12:42 PM
Interesting.

andrea450
10-23-07, 12:46 PM
:confused:

:eek:

:gag:

:mad:

:thumbsdow

Jim's buggin'! He been hanging around 50 too long...I guess he has listend to 50 call him the head of dipset 1 too many times.

Honestly...50 talking mad grease is one thing because I see him as the undisputed head figure of G-Unit. Jim ain't got that...he's the number 2 man, I don't see how he can front like it is any other way.

khrys_x
10-23-07, 12:49 PM
I wish Cam would hurry up and release his mixtape...

6FiggieNiggie
10-23-07, 12:53 PM
**** Diplomats

King Jaffe Joe
10-23-07, 12:54 PM
we as the hip-hop community need to stop making excuses for people who choose wrong.
let me ask these questions:
who do you think he was gonna use those machine guns and silencers on?

:huh:

6FiggieNiggie
10-23-07, 12:55 PM
:huh:

I was trying to make a thread saying FVCK T.I.

King Jaffe Joe
10-23-07, 12:57 PM
I was trying to make a thread saying FVCK T.I.

trillz

poetjones
10-23-07, 01:16 PM
Rukka...

SUGEKNIGHTJR.
10-23-07, 01:20 PM
It might hurt your little feelings, but he tells the truth...so what HELL RELL spits hot fiyah...so what HELL RELL did a bid in jail..at the end of the day JIMMY calls the shots, i respect HELL RELL for being honest, but does it really benifit you when you are still a subordinate????

King Jaffe Joe
10-23-07, 01:24 PM
It might hurt your little feelings, but he tells the truth...so what HELL RELL spits hot fiyah...so what HELL RELL did a bid in jail..at the end of the day JIMMY calls the shots, i respect HELL RELL for being honest, but does it really benifit you when you are still a subordinate????

everytime one of your post piss me off...
i just look at your avi :laugh:

Ron O'Neil
10-23-07, 01:33 PM
the thing is it wasnt a smart move by jimmy to side with 50. 50 is on a strong decline and at this point in his career its pointless to even ride with g unit.

jimmy already had a huge buzz. he didnt need to go against family and side with a fading attraction. he cant possibly think this is going to help him sell more records. unless he comes out with another smash single like balling he has no chance. especially with him selling out his family like this. now he has no fans except the ones who dont know whats going on.

if he wanted to stay out the beef thats fine. but him actually siding with the enemy who is fading fast was probably one of the dumbest things he could have done. career wise and money wise

RandyBodek
10-23-07, 01:54 PM
the thing is it wasnt a smart move by jimmy to side with 50. 50 is on a strong decline and at this point in his career its pointless to even ride with g unit.
jimmy already had a huge buzz. he didnt need to go against family and side with a fading attraction.

jim jones knows the market, here and around the world. you say 50 Cent is on a "strong decline" but how so? he's probably gonna max out at about 1.5 million in the USA and 2.0-2.5 million abroad with an album that had NO hit singles and was supposed to come out 5 months before it did. more and more 50 is beginning to look like a chump to me, the random Nas hate, the picking on Kanye West even though he knows Kanye is soft, etc... but as far as relevance goes, I don't see how he's declining. in today's game, where you need a collosal mega single or two to even sell 2 million albums he's still a major player. jones knows what he's doin, he's an executive

The Ahmed
10-23-07, 02:18 PM
smh @ jenny jones.

Obvious Man
10-23-07, 02:22 PM
hell rell > jimmy

easily

and fukk that b1tchmade bum judas jones

Ron O'Neil
10-23-07, 02:25 PM
jim jones knows the market, here and around the world. you say 50 Cent is on a "strong decline" but how so? he's probably gonna max out at about 1.5 million in the USA and 2.0-2.5 million abroad with an album that had NO hit singles and was supposed to come out 5 months before it did. more and more 50 is beginning to look like a chump to me, the random Nas hate, the picking on Kanye West even though he knows Kanye is soft, etc... but as far as relevance goes, I don't see how he's declining. in today's game, where you need a collosal mega single or two to even sell 2 million albums he's still a major player. jones knows what he's doin, he's an executive
what you mean no hit singles. the nicca practically had a video for his whole album. and 50 taking this long to go platinum is not a good sign for him. hes losing his fan base and seems to be losing his mind in the process. people arent caring for his music anymore because his gimmick is stale and his music is ass.

and who gives a fuk about worldwide sales. yeah they add up but you think 50 is worried about how much hes sold in germany. that nicca wanted the US sales and you know it. thats like duncan being more excited that he got a gold medal playing for the us then when he won the nba ship. not to mention do you honestly think jim is going to sell well overseas. if he can barely go gold here he damn sure aint doing **** overseas.

im not even a 50 hater. i could care less if he sold 1 record or a million records but if you honestly think he aint on a downfall then your a fuking idiot

RandyBodek
10-23-07, 02:33 PM
what you mean no hit singles. the nicca practically had a video for his whole album. and 50 taking this long to go platinum is not a good sign for him. hes losing his fan base and seems to be losing his mind in the process. people arent caring for his music anymore because his gimmick is stale and his music is ass.
and who gives a fuk about worldwide sales. yeah they add up but you think 50 is worried about how much hes sold in germany. that nicca wanted the US sales and you know it. thats like duncan being more excited that he got a gold medal playing for the us then when he won the nba ship. not to mention do you honestly think jim is going to sell well overseas. if he can barely go gold here he damn sure aint doing **** overseas.
im not even a 50 hater. i could care less if he sold 1 record or a million records but if you honestly think he aint on a downfall then your a fuking idiot


the industry is on a downfall so its impossible to fairly judge an artist in this current enviroment. i mean, look at Kanye West, n!ggas was actin like he was baby Jesus because he sold more than 50 first week, son almost sold a million!! now, like 6 weeks later, he's not even at 1.5 million sold. its not his fault, he has the material, its just the industry man. 50 is at a million sold in the usa and he's a hardcore rapper, thats phenominal in this market. dont judge these dudes by album sales, you cant right now, judge them by relevance. 50 still sells out shows in a day, still cakin off his wack ass clothing lines, still the talk of hiphop, etc... i mean, what more is there to talk about?

Tony Gambino
10-23-07, 02:38 PM
Looks like Dip Set is officially done...but not really though...

Ron O'Neil
10-23-07, 02:43 PM
the industry is on a downfall so its impossible to fairly judge an artist in this current enviroment. i mean, look at Kanye West, n!ggas was actin like he was baby Jesus because he sold more than 50 first week, son almost sold a million!! now, like 6 weeks later, he's not even at 1.5 million sold. its not his fault, he has the material, its just the industry man. 50 is at a million sold in the usa and he's a hardcore rapper, thats phenominal in this market. dont judge these dudes by album sales, you cant right now, judge them by relevance. 50 still sells out shows in a day, still cakin off his wack ass clothing lines, still the talk of hiphop, etc... i mean, what more is there to talk about?
ok i'll give you that about his shows and his clothing line. but i never judge rappers off sales. the only reason i brought it up was because its obvious thats why jim is making moves with 50.

your right 50 is still relevant with his other projects but that doesnt help jim in anyway whats so ever. just look at g unit. they havnt been doing sh!t lately. where the hell is banks? the only thing buck is good for is being 50's hype man right now. and yayo... well yayo is yayo. now if 50's own crew aint doing sh!t what does jones think is going to happen to him. like i said hes going to need an extrememly hot single otherwise hes done. and it doesnt help that he sold out his family for this.

oh one last thing... please dont ever call 50 a hardcore rapper. once you start singing on hooks and making songs specifically for ladies your hardcore pass has officially been revoked

Charles_Lee_Ray
10-23-07, 02:47 PM
its just funny how disloyal all thse so called street nigahs are at the end of the day. then turn around and be quick to say, well its a business move. thats cool and all, and understand when he says real beef results in blood shed. but in hindsite it just looks like money is feelin himself too hard or suntin. whatever the case may be, he' wack, cam's wack, juelz is wack, 50 cent so fuhkit i guess.

Mister Discotheque
10-23-07, 02:51 PM
Keep in mind, 50 was gonna go to the moon to promote his album

He doesn't do 1% of the work he does for himself for his artists

Jim needs to fall back and let Cam start writing for him again... maybe get a reality show

Everybody wants to be #1

Mario Killa
10-23-07, 02:54 PM
"Nah I ain't a rapper
Motha **** rap
They snitched on Kim
How lame is that?
This game ain't ****
But snakes and rats
Fighting each other for loose change and scraps"


rap money is dead

East st and ave
10-23-07, 02:57 PM
Hell Rell album was crazy. Jim Jones was never a good rapper or made a good album.

Mack Fetti.
10-23-07, 03:15 PM
Cam > Jimmy

JayDinero
10-23-07, 03:28 PM
I agree with Jim and heres why

Its not like he joined 50, he appeared with him on rap city and did a show or two and said big up to 50 cent like once or twice. big deal.

u act like 50 and cam had beef.
everyone knows that "beef" was just for attention. It was nothing personal about it. and u suckas got sucked up and are into that **** like some sort of soap opera. Its not real beef, i recognized that fro mthe get, so does cam, so does jim, so does 50. it aint on no personal ja rule and 50 cent shyt. these dues don't kno each other from a can of paint.

I recall Cam and Jim having problems like almost 3 years ago, i mentioned it a few times in threads yeaaars ago.(like 04).

Hell Rell is loyal to cam cause cam put him on. ok thats great. so he'll stick up for cam it aint **** wrong with that. But Jim got his own goals too, Word is Cam and Big Joe been pullin the Eazy E **** on Jim and Juelz and ****. more so with Jim though. jim never went into detail out of respect, and its other **** cam been doin too.. Jim got reasons to not be cool with cam. but people are dikkridin cam so much jus think if ur ace boon koon was doin u dirty. regardless if they put u on, that stealin **** is wrong and "Oh he owe his career to cam and all that shyt" is irrelevant when after the fact u tryna grind and ur mans is stealin from u cause he feels u owe him shyt. It ain't right.

Cam been acting straight silly after and around the release of purple haze. like homeboy done lost his mind.

Juelz ain't takin sides, but cam ain't doin nuffin, not makin moves, releasing trash like killa season where Jimmy is on the grind. Why stay on the sinkin ship.

its funny how people would come at jimmy for ish but if kayne does sometime ten times worse to dame dash it get the blind shoulder.

ermi
10-23-07, 03:32 PM
:gag::gag::gag::gag:
Jim and Cam married????
:laugh:

siccinthehead
10-23-07, 03:35 PM
y do all these rappers talk about beef using chess analogies.
rza checkmate n-gga.

Newday
10-23-07, 03:38 PM
^^lol almost all the rappers in the game are better than jim jones.

lol@ jim dissing rap beefs. Motherfukka you're one of the main reasons why rap beefs are joke. that clown doesn't even make battle records, he only makes threats and never done shyt afterwards.

I got feeling that Jim Jones would do anything for money. ANYTHING.

Hood Critic
10-23-07, 03:46 PM
so when is this Cam tape dropping? this should be good for some entertainment.

Get Right
10-23-07, 03:57 PM
[QUOTE=Newday;1058162437lol@ jim saying dissing rap beefs. Motherfukka you're one of the main reasons why rap beefs are joke. that clown doesn't even make battle records, he only makes threats and never done shyt afterwards.
[/QUOTE]


Gotta agree with that.

Diggy_Dat_Niggy
10-23-07, 04:01 PM
hell rell > jimmy

Ovastans
10-23-07, 04:07 PM
I agree with Jim and heres why
Its not like he joined 50, he appeared with him on rap city and did a show or two and said big up to 50 cent like once or twice. big deal.
u act like 50 and cam had beef.
everyone knows that "beef" was just for attention. It was nothing personal about it. :ohmy::dry:and u suckas got sucked up and are into that **** like some sort of soap opera. Its not real beef, i recognized that fro mthe get, so does cam, so does jim, so does 50. it aint on no personal ja rule and 50 cent shyt. these dues don't kno each other from a can of paint.
I recall Cam and Jim having problems like almost 3 years ago, i mentioned it a few times in threads yeaaars ago.(like 04).
Hell Rell is loyal to cam cause cam put him on. ok thats great. so he'll stick up for cam it aint **** wrong with that. But Jim got his own goals too, Word is Cam and Big Joe been pullin the Eazy E **** on Jim and Juelz and ****. more so with Jim though. jim never went into detail out of respect:dry:, and its other **** cam been doin too.. Jim got reasons to not be cool with cam. but people are dikkridin cam so much jus think if ur ace boon koon was doin u dirty. regardless if they put u on, that stealin **** is wrong and "Oh he owe his career to cam and all that shyt" is irrelevant when after the fact u tryna grind and ur mans is stealin from u cause he feels u owe him shyt. It ain't right.
Cam been acting straight silly after and around the release of purple haze. like homeboy done lost his mind.:dry:
Juelz ain't takin sides, but cam ain't doin nuffin, not makin moves, releasing trash like killa season where Jimmy is on the grind:huh::laugh:. Why stay on the sinkin ship.
its funny how people would come at jimmy for ish but if kayne does sometime ten times worse to dame dash it get the blind shoulder.

You lil' n!ggas don't get it do you, Nas and Jay wasn't real beef but imagine if Beans after Jay did the Takeover being like ":unsure:holdup man this is Nas we shouldn't do this:unsure: I can't roll wit you on this one Jay" Then doing a show wit Nas and passing out flyers for Nas WTF?????? what part of the game is this Jim Jones? Beans rode wit Jay the whole Roc did.
Real n!ggas roll wit they dogs, through war and peace bottom line.

Jim Jones is a kid who doesn't live what he raps about, bottom line

BlackBulletZZ
10-23-07, 04:09 PM
thats why people are waitin for cam

nobody give a fluck bout jimmy

who_better_than_me
10-23-07, 04:11 PM
link?

ItripL
10-23-07, 04:13 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.