"When the grass is cut the snake will show" Jays the real snake 4 what he did to Dame

[1970's Heron Flow]

No one ever talks about how fucced up of a move that was on Jay's part. I mean here's a guy [Dame] who was with you from the begining and took a chance on you when no one else would... and how do you repay him? Swipe his record label AND his clothing company from under duke? That ain't right man.

And you can throw Kanye's f@ggot ass into that snake category as well. Dame was the one to put you on not Jay. Hell Jay didn't even give a fucc about you even AFTER you dropped LR (giving duke recycled old ass verses to use on the album and not inviting you to that MSG concert). You're a hoe to Ye. You should have went with DDMG.

[Young Nique]

cosign

[BackAtCha]

Yasir go get some shish taouk you Bangladeshian asian lookin homo

[Gentility]

i dont know about the Dame part but i c/s the Kanye part.

LOL @ Big Brother.

[1970's Heron Flow]

i dont know about the Dame part but i c/s the Kanye part.

LOL @ Big Brother.
Same sh!t w/ Dame.

[Hurricane VII]

Big Brother is the single most embarrassing song in Hip Hop history

[Mr. Belvedere]

This is corny. He didn't swipe sh!t. Dame SOLD HIS STAKES? The fuk is so hard to grasp?

[BackAtCha]

Dame was hated by all executives, too flashy, too cocky and no skills. After the breakup he showed the world that Jay-Z is a buisness but Dame ain'T a business man

[TheY2DreProblem]

Big Brother is the single most embarrassing song in Hip Hop history

that song is mad gay. and stanish.

[1970's Heron Flow]

This is corny. He didn't swipe sh!t. Dame SOLD HIS STAKES? The fuk is so hard to grasp?
Wrong, Jay forced Dame and Biggs to sell their shares, by threatening them.

[AnwarSadatX]

regardless, jay & dame > jay alone

[Young Nique]

Big Brother is the single most embarrassing song in Hip Hop history
its cool if bleek did the song but its kanye!!! dame put that n!gga on

[1970's Heron Flow]

regardless, jay & dame > jay alone
c/s

[slim godbody]

its simple, jay is the talent of the operation, not dame... jay made dame a millionaire not the other way around...dame clearly needs jay to be successful more than jay needs dame...basically, a damon dash is expendable, and it was a business move on jay's part, he wanted to move in another direction with his career, what the **** does he need dame for at that point? keep making dame millions when the guy is basically useless from a business standpoint? now dame's bitter cuz he can't cake off jay anymore... its laughable...

[slapnut]

Wrong, Jay forced Dame and Biggs to sell their shares, by threatening them.

haha threatening them? got anymore fairy tales? not even dame says such a thing.

how did jay swipe his label? you mean when Dame sold it for millions of dollars?

[Freshology]

Storytelling 101

Rule #1:

Make sure what you're saying is the TRUTH & not just YOUR percieved bias... We all know you despise Jay... But if you gonna let your emotions guide your words at least make your story believable...

Now lets look at a couple of mistakes in this paper you turned in:

and how do you repay him? Swipe his record label AND his clothing company from under duke? That ain't right man.

Rocafella as a WHOLE sold the label... That means including Dame, Biggs, & Jay... Since they all owned portions of the label they all had to completely give the label in order for it to be "sold"... Half of the label was already sold to Def Jam (back in '99 I believe) so the remaining half was owned by Dame, Biggs, & Jay COLLECTIVELY... No one duped anyone in that deal... What happened was Jay was given the Presidential position at DJ later that year & eventually BOUGHT the label back....

As far as Rocawear goes Dame agreed to sell the line & keep Team Roc & State Property... That was the DEAL (keyword is DEAL)... For Dame to be from Harlem & be such the "Ultimate Hustler" how the hell would you expect Dame allow that?? You can't steal a record label or clothing company son... Its called RIGHTS, LAWYERS, & CONTRACTS...

Got it????

Good....

Now to the next mistake:

And you can throw Kanye's f@ggot ass into that snake category as well. Dame was the one to put you on not Jay. Hell Jay didn't even give a fucc about you even AFTER you dropped LR (giving duke recycled old ass verses to use on the album and not inviting you to that MSG concert). You're a hoe to Ye. You should have went with DDMG.

Jay gave him 4 free tickets... How is that not being invited? Or is it that you don't want to acknowledge that fact to further substantiate your technicalities???

I thought you Arabic Asians were supposed to be brilliant??? Where did it go wrong with you???

Anywho, make sure to leave you're defensive responses (which will more that like involve the widely used "Stan" easy button) & if I feel they're worth my response you'll get one...

Got it????

Good....

School is now out of session....

[gotti capone]

smh@ Jay threatening Dame and Biggs.


the only thing Jay wanted after Black Album was the publishing to all of the Origninal Reasonable Doubt. around that same time LA Reid had offered him the Presidential spot at Def Jam. he hadnt taken the job right then until Dame and Biggs told him he couldnt have the rights to Reasonable Doubt.


he said fukk it and took the Presidential job. they sold the company and Dame gave up Rocawear and the rest is history.

dont be fooled by what you hear from Dame. outside of Irv Gotti no other music executive really cares for him.

[Kingofkings]

Who cares. jay-z is evil man. he never ever saisd that he was a kind *****. the dude compares himself to fuccking gordon gekko.
And really it was time to break up, dame was doing things jay didnt like, like cam'ron etc.

[Zayus]

smh@ Jay threatening Dame and Biggs.
the only thing Jay wanted after Black Album was the publishing to all of the Origninal Reasonable Doubt. around that same time LA Reid had offered him the Presidential spot at Def Jam. he hadnt taken the job right then until Dame and Biggs told him he couldnt have the rights to Reasonable Doubt.
he said fukk it and took the Presidential job. they sold the company and Dame gave up Rocawear and the rest is history.
dont be fooled by what you hear from Dame. outside of Irv Gotti no other music executive really cares for him.

Wrong again

Jay-Z knew about the plans to offer him the presidential position when he was doing his Black Album 'I'm retiring again' line. With this knowledge in hand, he still sold Rocafella to Def Jam alongside Biggs & Dame. He didn't tell them about Def Jam's offer however, and about a month after the sell-off he became the president of Def Jam and was given Rocafella as a sort of signing gift. Thats how he did Dame & Biggs dirty, he fukked them out of their own record label through shady business and managed to retain full ownership. Def Jam gave him all of his masters but RD came out on some other label so the rights were still in Biggs & Dame's hands and they didn't sell them to him, almost out of spite.

[1970's Heron Flow]

Wrong again
Jay-Z knew about the plans to offer him the presidential position when he was doing his Black Album 'I'm retiring again' line. With this knowledge in hand, he still sold Rocafella to Def Jam alongside Biggs & Dame. He didn't tell them about Def Jam's offer however, and about a month after the sell-off he became the president of Def Jam and was given Rocafella as a sort of signing gift. Thats how he did Dame & Biggs dirty, he fukked them out of their own record label through shady business and managed to retain full ownership. Def Jam gave him all of his masters but RD came out on some other label so the rights were still in Biggs & Dame's hands and they didn't sell them to him, almost out of spite.
yezzir!!

[FSCballin]

Wrong again
Jay-Z knew about the plans to offer him the presidential position when he was doing his Black Album 'I'm retiring again' line. With this knowledge in hand, he still sold Rocafella to Def Jam alongside Biggs & Dame. He didn't tell them about Def Jam's offer however, and about a month after the sell-off he became the president of Def Jam and was given Rocafella as a sort of signing gift. Thats how he did Dame & Biggs dirty, he fukked them out of their own record label through shady business and managed to retain full ownership. Def Jam gave him all of his masters but RD came out on some other label so the rights were still in Biggs & Dame's hands and they didn't sell them to him, almost out of spite.





Biggs and Dame was already aware of the plot back in 2002..... Inform Yaself

[Swagger]

i'd snake my own mother for the £$£$£$£

[FSCballin]

as a white boy, i'd snake my own mother for the £$£$£$£



i thought this was implied?



Swagger and Jay Lost

[Kingofkings]

These kind of threads make me see that 100% of the nas stans are under 17 years. Do you really think that dame and jay-z were like brothers. They were brothers because of business without business = not brothers. 3 powerful who wants to go different directions can't own one label, they solved it and dame sold thats how easy it was.

[TheRain]

Yeah, it'd be really smart on Kanye's part to leave the label he almost killed himself trying to get on, to join Dame when there was no comittment involved between either of them. Oh, and just for the record, Dame & Ye are still cool so it doesn't really matter what your opinion on the matter is.

[1970's Heron Flow]

Yeah, it'd be really smart on Kanye's part to leave the label he almost killed himself trying to get on, to join Dame when there was no comittment involved between either of them. Oh, and just for the record, Dame & Ye are still cool so it doesn't really matter what your opinion on the matter is.
Now how would you know that?

[1970's Heron Flow]

Storytelling 101
Rule #1:
Make sure what you're saying is the TRUTH & not just YOUR percieved bias... We all know you despise Jay... But if you gonna let your emotions guide your words at least make your story believable...
Now lets look at a couple of mistakes in this paper you turned in:
Rocafella as a WHOLE sold the label... That means including Dame, Biggs, & Jay... Since they all owned portions of the label they all had to completely give the label in order for it to be "sold"... Half of the label was already sold to Def Jam (back in '99 I believe) so the remaining half was owned by Dame, Biggs, & Jay COLLECTIVELY... No one duped anyone in that deal... What happened was Jay was given the Presidential position at DJ later that year & eventually BOUGHT the label back....
As far as Rocawear goes Dame agreed to sell the line & keep Team Roc & State Property... That was the DEAL (keyword is DEAL)... For Dame to be from Harlem & be such the "Ultimate Hustler" how the hell would you expect Dame allow that?? You can't steal a record label or clothing company son... Its called RIGHTS, LAWYERS, & CONTRACTS...
Got it????
Good....
Now to the next mistake:
Jay gave him 4 free tickets... How is that not being invited? Or is it that you don't want to acknowledge that fact to further substantiate your technicalities???
I thought you Arabic Asians were supposed to be brilliant??? Where did it go wrong with you???
Anywho, make sure to leave you're defensive responses (which will more that like involve the widely used "Stan" easy button) & if I feel they're worth my response you'll get one...
Got it????
Good....
School is now out of session....
Did this thread really warrent an essay?

[1970's Heron Flow]

Let it flop

[gotti capone]

Wrong again
Jay-Z knew about the plans to offer him the presidential position when he was doing his Black Album 'I'm retiring again' line. With this knowledge in hand, he still sold Rocafella to Def Jam alongside Biggs & Dame. He didn't tell them about Def Jam's offer however, and about a month after the sell-off he became the president of Def Jam and was given Rocafella as a sort of signing gift. Thats how he did Dame & Biggs dirty, he fukked them out of their own record label through shady business and managed to retain full ownership. Def Jam gave him all of his masters but RD came out on some other label so the rights were still in Biggs & Dame's hands and they didn't sell them to him, almost out of spite.


what i just said was part of the interview the Jay gave XXL after Black Album was done. so take it how you want. i dont care for those insde scoops and shyt like that. i just know what Jay, dame, and Kareem been saying since '04.