Crate Diggers - has the internet fcked things up for you?

[MIKE BLESS]

Specifically, everybody having high speed internet and everybody fcking with Ebay these days? Yeah, I know that there's a lot of other choices the find older/OOP vinyl online, sources that are better than Ebay but I think that it could be contributing to higher prices? Case in point; there is a rare promo for a single by an "acid Jazz"/funk band from the mid 90's that was always rare/priced high if found. Not a vinyl but a CD. Went for like $60 6-7 years ago before everybody had high speed internet and was on Ebay. Last I saw it went for over $1000 on Ebay. Maybe stuff appreciates that much, it was a very limited edition promo but I don't think so. I saw a gang of sh1t on Ebay in early September, rare 12"s and they were goin for some high ass prices. I realize that true record value is on some inside knowledge stuff sometimes and that the internet is for opportunists; no offense to anybody but I see a lot of these rare 12"s going for prices that seem unreasonable to people who don't live in the USA who might not know better/don't care. So with all that said I realize that "real" crate diggers aren't strictly online, if at all. However, depending on where you live you might be reduced to searching online for certain genres.

I also realize that this thread might belong somewhere else but this seems like the only place that it will receive any feedback....

[5 Grand]

There is a store in NYC called A-1. They sell rare sh!t for $3.

All you gotta do is live in the NY area and go there a few times a month. You can spend all day digging in their discount $3 bins and walk away with a big fat stack of records that you paid $3 a piece for.

Otherwise, record shopping is stupid. You can get most of that stuff in mp3 format anyway. No record is worth more than $10-$20 dollars. Paying $60 for a record is stupid.

[Altar K. Shun]

5 Grand, you kill me.

I don't do Ebay anymore, too many fukking DJ Shadow groupies outbidding people at the last second. The best way I've found is to get my fingers dusty. I hit up the record stores whenever I travel and get to know the owners. Most of them are cool and will alert andf or hold sh1t for you if the know youi are interested. Thrift stores and yard sales are a blessing too. I ain't gonna lie, the internert has helped me out with some things but I rather have the vinyl as far as breaks are concerned. There are only a handful of rare Hip Hop 12"s that I'm after and I just look for those at fair prices when i'm out.

[MIKE BLESS]

Otherwise, record shopping is stupid. You can get most of that stuff in mp3 format anyway. No record is worth more than $10-$20 dollars. Paying $60 for a record is stupid.
yeah but not everybody can goto NYC to look for records. MP3's are cool but I feel that it's better to have the original 12"/LP if you can. but yeah $60 for a fckin single, no way I'm fckin payin that type of money. that was kinda part of my point with this.

Altar K. Shun, fck an Ebay, I just mentioned them cause there was a lotta rare sh1t earlier in September, I was impressed. But then I see people from Europe come through and bid like $100 fckin dollars for a single I'm like what the hell is this. Anyways, point is, there's other spots on the internet to get old ass records.

[DJKATA]

Its a blessing and a curse. Theres lots of new collectors out there who havent really got a clue about value, but saying that a record is only worth what someone will pay for it.
Records go in trends like everything else so certain things 5 years ago were worth big money and now they arent. I make pretty much my living from selling vinyl on the intenet and have customers all over the world who i wouldnt have otherwise. I can find records for next to nothing adn know that one of my contacts will give me 5/10 times what i paid for it.
And stores like A-1 the stuff they have for a few dollars isnt rare thats your everyday records in those crates. On the walls is where the rarities are and to get them you have to pay the price. $20 $50 or ever $100 isnt anything to record collectors. They/We dont want a Mp3 "Collection" its worthless. Like anyone who collects we're nerds to it.
You have to remember there are thousands of people WILL pay ridiculous prices for certain things
http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?top25=all

[ghost718]

the only time I would say a record is not worth the money is if it's wack or if the 12" is common.

ebay is corny because you got a couple people on there buying hiphop passes,not hiphop records.

[EVIL]

do you guys actually like the records you collect or do you just look for good break beats and samples out of them?

[DJKATA]

do you guys actually like the records you collect or do you just look for good break beats and samples out of them?

Personally i used to collect anything and everything - i'd go to stores and buy anything cheap that looked like it was decent. So even if there was only a 2 second break on it i'd keep it. Now though 90% of my collection is music i like.

[EVIL]

o.k i was just wondering cause me i use to love to dig in the crates back in the days and i never cared for the record itself as long as it had a dope sample and i took that part off i could care less if the record blew up into little bitty pieces afterwords.i think the internet is good for finding old songs and snatching the good parts out but the bad thing about the net is its 200,000 other producers who downloaded the same record to get the same break beat and samples.theres no privacy finding samples on the net.

[Theruler]

http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?top25=all
is that 25 thousand dollars???:ohmy:

people buy rare records like people buy rare paintings. i'm not a crate digger, but i can respect that hobby/love

[5 Grand]

is that 25 thousand dollars???:ohmy:
people buy rare records like people buy rare paintings. i'm not a crate digger, but i can respect that hobby/love

Well, its $25,000 for an acetate.

An acetate is a test pressing. its the original record. So you press an acetate and then you play it to see if it sounds good. If it sounds good then you press it for real.

[Altar K. Shun]

Well, its $25,000 for an acetate.
An acetate is a test pressing. its the original record. So you press an acetate and then you play it to see if it sounds good. If it sounds good then you press it for real.


Okay, I didn't look at it but $25,000 for an acetate is just stupid. You can't even play the fukking acetate. Acetates can only be played a certain number of times before they are no good. What's the point of owning something you can't use, that's moronic.