View Full Version : "Heard that convicted rapist on the record too" Jay-z DOES NOT WANT IT WITH LL COOL J
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 08:01 AM
:king:
Excuse the Old Head in me....but yo jay-z don't want it with LL
don't make me get all hype like funkmaster flex on this ish...
And Flex you know damn well jay don't really got a chance
You show me another rapper that has the balls to diss the sh*t out of Mike Tyson on his track, with out it being some underground nobody...
Motherf*cker took canibus under one arm, ripped his f*cking head off (his stans and LL haters were MAD and still are, thats the original unending battle due to stans)
Then he proceeds to rip Mike Tyson's head off...and everyone heard this joint cause it came with "Its Dark and Hell is Hot" (Survival of the Illest Promo CD)
"Save that ish for the lyricist lounge
or a house party where you can battle some clown
on top of all that
I'll Beat ya homeless ass down!
Heard that convicted Rapist on the record too
Fresh out of jail ass cheeks still black and blue :ohmy: :ohmy:
Tell me bout the things ear biter taught you *biting sound*
How To bust a nut or too
*yea thats butter boo* :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: "
Jay-z does not want it...LL is VICIOUS, if he gets on this type fericiousity or whatever...Jay is done....cause everyone will respect LL more than Jay-z...I mean sh*t, my pops knows who LL Cool J is, my dad has no clue who the f*ck Jay-z is...oh hold up...
"I eat eat eat eat eat eat amateur mc's"
He aint' done yet (lol)
"where are you in some one room flat
sucking on clef's d*ck hoping to come back, never that"
"career be over by next year I said it
Look over your shoulder, thats where you headed" :laugh: :laugh:
And Jay gotta compete with this?
"Diss my moms? Who's The real rap Don?
Who ruled for 15 years and dropped bombs
Who copped solid gold grammys and stayed on
LL
While Jigga dropped verses at n*ggas proms" :ohmy: :ohmy:
FSCballin
09-26-07, 08:24 AM
2nd round knock out was one of the greatest, fukk all the hataz
Cannibus won lyrically, and i would love for u to prove that wrong
roc_com
09-26-07, 08:24 AM
this is gonna be an ill battle..
:king:
Excuse the Old Head in me....but yo jay-z don't want it with LL
don't make me get all hype like funkmaster flex on this ish...
And Flex you know damn well jay don't really got a chance
You show me another rapper that has the balls to diss the sh*t out of Mike Tyson on his track, with out it being some underground nobody...
Motherf*cker took canibus under one arm, ripped his f*cking head off (his stans and LL haters were MAD and still are, thats the original unending battle due to stans)
Then he proceeds to rip Mike Tyson's head off...and everyone heard this joint cause it came with "Its Dark and Hell is Hot" (Survival of the Illest Promo CD)
"Save that ish for the lyricist lounge
or a house party where you can battle some clown
on top of all that
I'll Beat ya homeless ass down!
Heard that convicted Rapist on the record too
Fresh out of jail ass cheeks still black and blue :ohmy: :ohmy:
Tell me bout the things ear biter taught you *biting sound*
How To bust a nut or too
*yea thats butter boo* :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: "
Jay-z does not want it...LL is VICIOUS, if he gets on this type fericiousity or whatever...Jay is done....cause everyone will respect LL more than Jay-z...I mean sh*t, my pops knows who LL Cool J is, my dad has no clue who the f*ck Jay-z is...oh hold up...
"I eat eat eat eat eat eat amateur mc's"
He aint' done yet (lol)
"where are you in some one room flat
sucking on clef's d*ck hoping to come back, never that"
"career be over by next year I said it
Look over your shoulder, thats where you headed" :laugh: :laugh:
And Jay gotta compete with this?
"Diss my moms? Who's The real rap Don?
Who ruled for 15 years and dropped bombs
Who copped solid gold grammys and stayed on
LL
While Jigga dropped verses at n*ggas proms" :ohmy: :ohmy:
:confused: .....Ummmm, Canibus did have a convicted rapist on his record
C'mon dawg, ain't no way in hell you goin' compare Canibus in the mid-90's, to Jay-Z in 2007...
Trust me, if Jay gets on a track and says,
As ya words remain reck-less
The fact still remains...n*gga I signed ya checks
Hate to put it that way, but Hov got ammo...It's gonna be a good battle
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 08:30 AM
What Ammo?!?!? If it wasn't for LL that n*gga wouldn't have a job, cause there would be no def jam..
Def Jam is the House That L Built n*gga
Jay-z has nothing.....on LL
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 08:34 AM
What Jay gonna do whisper on LL?
TheY2DreProblem
09-26-07, 08:43 AM
lol Canibus in his prime is better than Jay-Z right now. LL might win tho, and if he does Jay-Z will no longer be the GOAT imo and Nas will usurp the throne. but yeah Canibus beat LL. but LL has a better track record than Jay when it comes to battles.
Mr. Smoke Weed
09-26-07, 08:46 AM
rofl@dude saying hov could win a battle against LL by saying hes his boss that sh1t might work for Juelz or the Young Gunz or Peedi Crack but LL? lol
TheY2DreProblem
09-26-07, 08:48 AM
What Jay gonna do whisper on LL?
If he starts that sh*t and that swagger on record sh*t its over for him, I want something I can get hyped to.
AsherDG
09-26-07, 08:53 AM
Lol... LL Cool J
You people are funny
AZ I 'C' it
09-26-07, 09:18 AM
...the only way Jay-Z is winning this is due to young heads not giving LL his proper credit and respect. That old "Reasonable Doubt/ Vol. 1" Jay-Z would be victorious over LL (because he could bite Biggie's verses and flip them)...this now corporate "Kingdom Come" Jay-Z version (who will get called out for biting verses) ain't fukking with an obviously pissed-off LL.
...Canibus lost.
2ndRoundKO
09-26-07, 09:21 AM
...the only way Jay-Z is winning this is due to young heads not giving LL his proper credit and respect. That old "Reasonable Doubt/ Vol. 1" Jay-Z would be victorious over LL (because he could bite Biggie's verses and flip them)...this now corporate "Kingdom Come" Jay-Z version (who will get called out for biting verses) ain't fukking with an obviously pissed-off LL.
...Canibus lost.
True. What you forget though is that while the now corporate Jay_Z might not be able to bring it, the 40 year old, plastic surgery, Hollywood LL might not be able to bring it either. The Ripper Strikes Back is damn near as old as Reasonable Doubt.
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 09:21 AM
Just go back and listen to the last song were Uncle L was mad
They call him Uncle L cause he is beyond fathering styles, he is the fathers brother, the father's BAD brother...
LL "CRUSH YOU LIKE A JELLY BEAN" COOL J
The_GameO7™
09-26-07, 09:22 AM
This is a MONSTOROUS Jay Z hate thread.
The_GameO7™
09-26-07, 09:23 AM
LL hasnt made a decent album since 2000s GOAT.
Didn't you say you'd retire if Kanye outsold 50?
N*IT*2*WIN*IT
09-26-07, 09:29 AM
If LL is focused.....sh!t can get interesting
...the only way Jay-Z is winning this is due to young heads not giving LL his proper credit and respect. That old "Reasonable Doubt/ Vol. 1" Jay-Z would be victorious over LL (because he could bite Biggie's verses and flip them)...this now corporate "Kingdom Come" Jay-Z version (who will get called out for biting verses) ain't fukking with an obviously pissed-off LL.
...Canibus lost.i just love how much newfound respect you cats are giving LL now that he has said something slick about jay. dude hasnt spit anything hot in over a decade, but now the only way he could lose in a battle with jay is if young cats "cheat" him? the sh1t hasnt even popped off yet and youre already cheerleading.
the onus in all of this is on LL, he's instigating. its going to be on him to come with something thats hot enough to grab and keep the public's attention. you saw what happened to cam. "you gotta luv it" was redundant and weak, it didnt put any real pressure on jay and dude was able to ignore it. same thing will happen to LL if he doesnt come with something special. isnt LL still on def jam? i dont even really see this popping off unless 1 of them leaves the label. otherwise it makes no sense for LL.
Soundwave
09-26-07, 09:49 AM
Okay, so ... what did LL say about Jay again?
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 09:51 AM
well ya know what
its like this.....just cause a legend is not in the lime light constantly, don't mean you have to forget about them. I grew up on LL Cool J, you grew up on what Jay-z?!?! I'm telling you, LL Cool J is the G.O.A.T.
If anyone dissess LL I'm going to get like this, just like if anyone dissess KRS-1 or Kool G Rap I would be like "are you f*cking kidding me?"
The night they debuted the the I get money remix
That n*gga on the radio with flex
that was all like
"yo don't f*ck with LL"
"Don't say it flex, don't f*ck with LL"
yo...that was me
jayshiggs
09-26-07, 09:51 AM
Okay, so ... what did LL say about Jay again?
iT'S GONNA GET REAL INTERESTING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. aND jAY SHOULD BE DOING HIS JOB NOT RAPPIN' ON NINJAS RECORDS. LOL
AZ I 'C' it
09-26-07, 09:56 AM
i just love how much newfound respect you cats are giving LL now that he has said something slick about jay. dude hasnt spit anything hot in over a decade, but now the only way he could lose in a battle with jay is if young cats "cheat" him? the sh1t hasnt even popped off yet and youre already cheerleading.
the onus in all of this is on LL, he's instigating. its going to be on him to come with something thats hot enough to grab and keep the public's attention. you saw what happened to cam. "you gotta luv it" was redundant and weak, it didnt put any real pressure on jay and dude was able to ignore it. same thing will happen to LL if he doesnt come with something special. isnt LL still on def jam? i dont even really see this popping off unless 1 of them leaves the label. otherwise it makes no sense for LL.
...Ofcourse I'm rooting for LL...I'm an old head. I love Jay-z az well though and they are tied with other individuals at 3 (Jay-Z) and 4 (LL) on my top ten list.
...If you remember correctly...Nas hadn't spit anything hot in quite awhile either before Takeover dropped on him...yet some people think "Ether" destroyed Jay. So it is capable that LL may do the same thing.
...You are even saying that LL will have to say something special to grab the public's attention...which is basically "young heads" who think he hasn't "spit anything hot in over a decade"...which is who I'm referring to az to not giving him proper credit and respect.
The_GameO7™
09-26-07, 09:58 AM
i just love how much newfound respect you cats are giving LL now that he has said something slick about jay. dude hasnt spit anything hot in over a decade, but now the only way he could lose in a battle with jay is if young cats "cheat" him? the sh1t hasnt even popped off yet and youre already cheerleading.
the onus in all of this is on LL, he's instigating. its going to be on him to come with something thats hot enough to grab and keep the public's attention. you saw what happened to cam. "you gotta luv it" was redundant and weak, it didnt put any real pressure on jay and dude was able to ignore it. same thing will happen to LL if he doesnt come with something special. isnt LL still on def jam? i dont even really see this popping off unless 1 of them leaves the label. otherwise it makes no sense for LL.
Good read, and very true.
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 10:00 AM
50 did outsell kanye worldwide so I aint going nowhere
"When I retire ill get worshipped like a ol battleship"
The_GameO7™
09-26-07, 10:07 AM
50 did outsell kanye worldwide so I aint going nowhere
"When I retire ill get worshipped like a ol battleship"
Just like 'ol battleships' get worshipped on SOHH right.
danja29
09-26-07, 10:10 AM
I love it... LMAO
Half the site is swingin' off LL's d!ck outta the blue, and pretending that L is the favorite in this battle. I know LL, I know his career, I know his history- but that niqqa ain't smashed anybody in a battle since the Kool Moe Dee sh*t. Canibus offed himself with that wack-ass album, L won that by default.
I'm not sayin' it's impossible that L could score on Jay- but y'all are crazy as sh*t thinkin' this is gonna IN ANY WAY be a one-sided battle.
jayshiggs
09-26-07, 10:14 AM
I love it... LMAO
Half the site is swingin' off LL's d!ck outta the blue, and pretending that L is the favorite in this battle. I know LL, I know his career, I know his history- but that niqqa ain't smashed anybody in a battle since the Kool Moe Dee sh*t. Canibus offed himself with that wack-ass album, L won that by default.
I'm not sayin' it's impossible that L could score on Jay- but y'all are crazy as sh*t thinkin' this is gonna IN ANY WAY be a one-sided battle.
If you love it so much why do you keep trying to downplay ninjas enthusiasm for LL? Let ninjas root for who's battle acumen they respect more. Just cause you disagree really doesn't mean shyt.
RiotGang
09-26-07, 10:15 AM
this s.hit is crazy ....u know when its album time for hov all the bulls.hit start...n1ggas all over LL now
danja29
09-26-07, 10:17 AM
If you love it so much why do you keep trying to downplay ninjas enthusiasm for LL? Let ninjas root for who's battle acumen they respect more. Just cause you disagree really doesn't mean shyt.
You niqqas know that a lot of this is wishful thinking. You were just in a thread the other day actually thinking that something good was gonna come out of LL "goin' back hardcore", when if you know his career, you know that sh*t ain't worked for him in 17 years.
Again, I just wanna see the battle- but I wouldn't count on it bein' one-sided on either side, like a lot of y'all are tryna say it will be.
RiotGang
09-26-07, 10:19 AM
let's keep it real jay aint even gon respond to LL...he aint trying to get into that nonsense battle he has nuthing to gain from it
The_GameO7™
09-26-07, 10:21 AM
-LL cool J tried to copy Big & Pac and do music for the ladies but it backfired on him.
-LL tried his hand at acting but ha failed miserably. Only 1 good performance in his whole career (God in In Too Deep).
-LL hasnt made a good song since the GOAT album.
-LL was passed over as the boss of Def Jam.
-LLs career is downward spiraling since 2001 so he joined 50 cent to try an reinvent himself, yet he chose the worst possible time, as 50s popularity has dropped a heck of alot.
Nothing new can be said about Jay Z that HASNT been said before by Nas, or Cam. LL hasnt been in a battle since Canibus so alot of new diss lines can take place. Its a ridiculous beef if it happens, because LL is just jealous of Jay.
AZ I 'C' it
09-26-07, 10:23 AM
I love it... LMAO
Half the site is swingin' off LL's d!ck outta the blue, and pretending that L is the favorite in this battle. I know LL, I know his career, I know his history- but that niqqa ain't smashed anybody in a battle since the Kool Moe Dee sh*t. Canibus offed himself with that wack-ass album, L won that by default.
I'm not sayin' it's impossible that L could score on Jay- but y'all are crazy as sh*t thinkin' this is gonna IN ANY WAY be a one-sided battle.
...I don't think it will be one-sided. Both of them have fallen off dramatically over the years. I just listened to Dead Presidents and it's like that isn't even the same rapper that dropped this recent mediocre shyt (Kingdom Come/Blue Magic).
...the problem with this is that LL will have to thoroughly destroy Jay to be seen az a victor...Jay will only have to say one slick line and the internet will go nuts (even if they don't understand what he said :laugh: ). It's funny because LL is in the exact same position now...that Kool Moe Dee was in when they battled.
AZ I 'C' it
09-26-07, 10:28 AM
-LL cool J tried to copy Big & Pac and do music for the ladies but it backfired on him.
-LL tried his hand at acting but ha failed miserably. Only 1 good performance in his whole career (God in In Too Deep).
-LL hasnt made a good song since the GOAT album.
-LL was passed over as the boss of Def Jam.
-LLs career is downward spiraling since 2001 so he joined 50 cent to try an reinvent himself, yet he chose the worst possible time, as 50s popularity has dropped a heck of alot.
Nothing new can be said about Jay Z that HASNT been said before by Nas, or Cam. LL hasnt been in a battle since Canibus so alot of new diss lines can take place. Its a ridiculous beef if it happens, because LL is just jealous of Jay.
...how young are you?????
"I Need Love", "I Want you", "I can give you more" ...LL songs for ladies that dropped before Big and Pac ever dropped an album. :laugh:
Worm of Earth Jim
09-26-07, 10:30 AM
...how young are you?????
"I Need Love", "I Want you", "I can give you more" ...LL songs for ladies that dropped before Big and Pac ever dropped an album. :laugh:
lol
also his name is Ladies Love Cool James...
smh @ newjacks
mic majestic
09-26-07, 10:31 AM
-LL cool J tried to copy Big & Pac and do music for the ladies but it backfired on him.
Wow this kid literally sonned himself with that one.
Quality Street
09-26-07, 10:34 AM
This beef will never happen, Jay-Z the boss at rocafella going at the nígga who helped build the very same label up from the ground ? GTFOH he isnt that stupid
...I don't think it will be one-sided. Both of them have fallen off dramatically over the years. I just listened to Dead Presidents and it's like that isn't even the same rapper that dropped this recent mediocre shyt (Kingdom Come/Blue Magic).
...the problem with this is that LL will have to thoroughly destroy Jay to be seen az a victor...Jay will only have to say one slick line and the internet will go nuts (even if they don't understand what he said :laugh: ). It's funny because LL is in the exact same position now...that Kool Moe Dee was in when they battled.
You know very well on places like SOHH and elsewhere on the internet where Jay-Z is akin to Satin, it'll be the other way around. Cam releases a redundant record full of rehashed disses and *****s go crazy saying Jay's finished. Same with Jim Jones, yet they hate on Dig A Hole, Brooklyn High, and the verse on the Hustlin Remix. From this thread alone I can tell anything LL releases will be overrated for the sake of countless "Jay lost" posts, regardless if Jay actually loses or not.
the mere fact that "Ether" exists, already makes LL lose, or anyone else..
theres really nothing left to say..
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 10:38 AM
LL stands for Ladies Love and Living Legend
Yo son
If LL starts to do that laugh on him
ya know the laugh
That stupid laugh that arie spears immitates so perfectly, its over for Jay-z
Jungle Jones
09-26-07, 10:38 AM
:confused: .....Ummmm, Canibus did have a convicted rapist on his record?
C'mon dawg, ain't no way in hell you goin' compare Canibus in the mid-90's, to Jay-Z in 2007...
Trust me, if Jay gets on a track and says,
As ya words remain reck-less
The still remains...n*gga I signed ya checks
Hate to put it that way, but Hov got ammo...It's gonna be a good battle
lol at this stan thinking jayz owns defjam, hes just an paid employee,hov dont sign nobodies checks at defjam
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 10:39 AM
"Who ruled for 15 years and dropped bombs
Who copped solid gold grammys and stayed on
LL
While Jigga dropped verses at n*ggas proms"
jayshiggs
09-26-07, 10:39 AM
You niqqas know that a lot of this is wishful thinking. You were just in a thread the other day actually thinking that something good was gonna come out of LL "goin' back hardcore", when if you know his career, you know that sh*t ain't worked for him in 17 years.
Again, I just wanna see the battle- but I wouldn't count on it bein' one-sided on either side, like a lot of y'all are tryna say it will be.
What's wrong with wishful thinking? If LL is talking about getting @ Jigga I should expect some hardcore tracks right?
He hasn't really tried in 15 years he's been caking off ladies and the older crowd, I'm not mad at him. What you count and what other people count are totally different. Neither of us know either way so . . . let people say what they feel. You know no better.
mitchandness
09-26-07, 10:42 AM
i dont think the threadstarter has heard 'takeover' or 'supa ugly'.
ChiTownStunna
09-26-07, 10:50 AM
You can't be serious with this...
LL hasn't put out a good album in years...and I'm sorry but he can not see Hov on the mic in any fashion...hell he was going to Em just to get a verse ghostwritten about Canibus...thats how the beef started between him and Em..I think LL is a legend in the game etc but in no way is he seeing Jay Z...
Ty NiTTi
09-26-07, 10:51 AM
LL will murder Jay
Dr. Liggins
09-26-07, 10:52 AM
People underestimated Nas as well. I know I did, after Takeover, I thought he was finished. Everyone did, no one expected Ether. I think that's what made it better for Nas, no one expected a response, let alone a good one. LL is in the best position right now; he's battle tested and an underdog. He really has nothing to lose by going at Jay-Z
AZ I 'C' it
09-26-07, 10:53 AM
You know very well on places like SOHH and elsewhere on the internet where Jay-Z is akin to Satin, it'll be the other way around. Cam releases a redundant record full of rehashed disses and *****s go crazy saying Jay's finished. Same with Jim Jones, yet they hate on Dig A Hole, Brooklyn High, and the verse on the Hustlin Remix. From this thread alone I can tell anything LL releases will be overrated for the sake of countless "Jay lost" posts, regardless if Jay actually loses or not.
...:laugh: ...It could go either way...you know old rappers (LL, Rakim, KRS, etc) get little to no respect on here...which is what I based my stance on (real world view will probably be alot different anyway).
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 10:54 AM
i dont think the threadstarter has heard 'takeover' or 'supa ugly'.
Oh I have
But I'm not one of those easily impressed losers like yourself
Piffstopher Walken
09-26-07, 11:00 AM
I mean just cause ya youngings are misinformed, or just plain stupid
or just can't feel real hip hop from the 80's and early 90's...
bah..people also wrote off LL after 2nd Round Knock out, and what happened
LL Put out the hardest most vicious diss track I ever heard
That canibus diss > ether
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