In his prime Ol Dirty Bastard was a bigger Hip Hop star then Pun in his prime.

[1970's Heron Flow]

Brooklyn Zoo > Puns' Discography.

[da illest nicca]

something stinks in here :gag:

[RochesterSS]

Dude just thinks up bizarre and outlandish ideas for threads all day

I'm not mad at him. Sh1ts just weird

[1970's Heron Flow]

something stinks in here :gag:
Ayo yo B,

first off succ a dicc no homo

[da illest nicca]

Ayo yo B,
first off succ a dicc no homo

what is that smell again? :gag:

[Cliff Huxtable]

no way

Pun was like 500lbs...so he was bigger:thumbsdow

This is the dumbest thread I ever read in my life, no wonder you get Deez in everything:thumbsdow

one star

[Felipe Q]

lmao!!! Worse thread ever.

ODB wasnt lyrical, at all.

Then you have this....:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NBr1ulpsS_g
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O0yabVVsGj8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eVOPotWx15g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4vepA3DOWE
And those arent even all of it.


And today Pun is a LEGEND. ODB isnt as much..

[MEDIC]

something stinks in here :gag:
:laugh:

[Don Malvo]

ODB gets rated because he was a character and because his eccentricity was the perfect ingredient to make Wu-Tang Clan legendary

but when it comes to actual hip-hop and not the unnecessary peripheral sh!t, Pun>ODB

1/2 star thread

[Felipe Q]

Not to mention, ODB was a fake.

The late Russell Tyrone Jones, 35, embarrassed his dad, the so-called fisherman, at fishing, said his father William.

William Jones, 61, told a reporter from the Daily Press of Newport News, Va. about his son, who was widely known as eccentric rap star ODB.

ODB, aka Old Dirty Bastard of the Wu Tang Clan, died accidentally on Nov. 13 in a recording studio after consuming cocaine and the painkiller Tramadol, said the New York City Medical Examiner. ODB’s colorful performing career included prison time for drug possession and time spent in drug rehab.

Other colorful parts of ODB’s career were claims he was a rough dude from the ’hood.

Fake, the mourning dad who sired the real Russell Jones told the newspaper.

Dad lives in a suburban-like neighborhood of Newport News, and the local paper was more receptive to his claims that his late son was a hip-hop poseur, contrary to what music trade magazines published in New York.

“You know, that story about him being raised in the Fort Greene [Brooklyn] projects on welfare until he was a child of 13 was a total lie,” said Jones in the story published on Monday. “When I read it in the Vibe magazine a few years ago, my other son was here from the Navy. He said, ‘Daddy, did you see this story?’

“I was furious. I tried to get in touch with the guy who wrote the story, but all I got was a tape for two weeks. So finally I called my wife.

“She said, ‘Look, I know you’re upset.’ She said, “Your son did that for publicity.’

“I said, ‘Wow, As hard as we worked.’”

Yeah. Daddy Jones returned to his native Virginia and is retired from the New York City Transit Authority. His ex-wife, Cherry Jones, was a police department dispatcher. Jones said their son grew up in a reasonably stable two-parent, two-income home in Brooklyn.

I recognized that lifestyle. My younger brother and wife are civil servants and live in a house in Brooklyn that’s full of kids. And many of my homies from Bedford-Stuyvesant became cops, sanitation workers and correctional officers after an adolescence of playing basketball and hanging out on the street ended.

Oh, yeah – a lot of them were wild when they were young. Then they settled down, went to work and raised families.

Truth be told, ODB was doing the same: taking care of a wife and kids as Russell Jones.

“To the public, he was known as Old Dirty Bastard,” his mom told the BBC, “but to me he was known as Rusty, the kindest, most generous soul on earth.”

That reality, however, does not enable hip-hop notoriety.

As ODB, Russell “Rusty” Jones had to behave outrageously to succeed. Now, a talented entertainer is dead and not here for his family at Christmastime because of reckless living. That’s a shame.

Midwestern rapper MC Breed wisely warned in his 1991 hit, “There ain’t no future in your frontin’.” And unfortunately ODB’s fronting recalled another hip-hop poseur from a decade ago.

Lichelle “Boss” Laws seemed to be the most gangsta of girl gangstas. She posed with automatic weapons, bragged that she did prison time and claimed she was from the hard-knock streets of Detroit.

Fake, exclaimed her parents.

Lichelle was a good girl who they put through private school and enrolled in college in suburban Detroit. Her parents, an auto worker dad and schoolteacher mom, wanted her to be an achiever, but Lichelle Laws became enamored with gangsta hip-hop culture.

That’s not necessarily bad. What’s odious is what industry people told her she had to do to succeed. Producers "were telling us that we didn't curse enough," Laws told Brett Pulley, then of The Wall Street Journal, the brotha reporter who exposed her as a perpetrator in 1994. Laws and her female partner pumped up their act with profanity; they were a hit for minute, then they faded into obscurity.

Fortunately, and unlike ODB, Laws did not get killed or seriously injured while posing as a gangsta. However, she caused her parents a lot of pain. They were trying to offer a better life and lead by example, and their daughter rejected that.

William Jones, ODB’s dad, fondly recalled taking his sons fishing off Rockaway, N.Y. Dad could reel in porgies and bluefish, but he could never catch the blackfish like his son the future rapper. Young Russell would rib him about that.

I bet Dad wished his son was here at this cherished family time of year.

Parents, don’t give up. Cajole, lecture and plead that these ubiquitous hardcore media images remain largely gross fictions that occasionally become realistically lethal.

[THA UNCANNY]

Dude Is Right

Odb In His Prime Was Nasty

Odb Stage Show Alone

[Donnie Dopeflow]

I don't see how you can disagree with the thread title.

Other than that, material-wise:

I think I prefer ODB's first album too, but they were both nasty in their prime.

[Felipe Q]

I don't see how you can disagree with the thread title.

I can. See my previous two posts.

[WuTangDude]

something stinks in here :gag:


It's coming through my speakers. :gag:

[Donnie Dopeflow]

Its just a fact that ODB was a bigger star.

Do you know what the word star means? Pun was not as popular as ODB, nor did he work with as many stars.

It has nothing to do with lyrics or how "real" you think he is.

[Felipe Q]

nor did he work with as many stars.

Did ODB do **** with Jennifer Lopez, Fat Joe, Black Thought, Inspectah Deck, Prodigy, Busta Rhymes, Common, Nas, Pete Rock, Noreaga, Armageddon, Prospect, Raekwon, Cuban Link, Puff, dead prez, Showbiz, Funkmaster Flex, Just Blaze, Big L, Styles P, Jadakiss, G Rap, B Real? Pun also did **** with RZA. He was also affiliated with Snoop Dogg, Puff, Xzibit, Missy Elliot, etc. Plus, Capital Punishment went 5x Platinum, Yeeeah Baby went 3x Platinum, and Endangered Species went platinum.

[THA UNCANNY]

Did ODB do **** with Jennifer Lopez, Fat Joe, Black Thought, Inspectah Deck, Prodigy, Busta Rhymes, Common, Nas, Pete Rock, Noreaga, Armageddon, Prospect, Raekwon, Cuban Link, Puff, dead prez, Showbiz, Funkmaster Flex, Just Blaze, Big L, Styles P, Jadakiss, G Rap, B Real? Pun also did **** with RZA. He was also affiliated with Snoop Dogg, Puff, Xzibit, Missy Elliot, etc. Plus, Capital Punishment went 5x Platinum, Yeeeah Baby went 3x Platinum, and Endangered Species went platinum.


Jennifer Lopez????? u lost right there:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

u must be young or just dumb

odb on Mariah Carey's joint?????? (and Mariah murk j-lo in record sales)

[Felipe Q]

Now what are you people to say?

[dtjones]

Pun on the mic > ODB but I agree with thread title though.

[Felipe Q]

Jennifer Lopez????? u lost right there

That has nothing to do with it. People have a bad habit of not staying on topic.

[1970's Heron Flow]

That has nothing to do with it. People have a bad habit of not staying on topic.
Lol, you brought her up genius.

[Felipe Q]

Well she is a "star"
And it was a reply to that Pun didnt work with as many stars, which is wrong.

[Tommy Chong]

This is the dumbest thread I ever read in my life, no wonder you get Deez in everything:thumbsdow



:laugh:

[1970's Heron Flow]

Well she is a "star"
And it was a reply to that Pun didnt work with as many stars, which is wrong.
Who said anything about working with "stars"? And anyways, when Pun worked with her she was almost a nobody. She didn't blow up until she started dating Puff.

[Mercury Hayes]

Brooklyn Zoo > Puns' Discography.


:yes: @ the thread title


anyone who disagrees is obviously 17 and under

[Felipe Q]

Who said anything about working with "stars"?


Donnie Dopeflow. What I said was towards him. :dry:

[1970's Heron Flow]

Donnie Dopeflow. What I said was towards him. :dry:
Oh allright.

[1970's Heron Flow]

Bump.

[Rep_DomCP82]

This is the dumbest thread ever... considering Pun never made it to his prime. Pun was only alive for his first album. Was ODB a bigger star? Yes, he'd been around a whole lot longer than Pun, as part of the biggest hip-hop group ever. So no ****. But to make such a comparison is outrageous, considering Pun never lived to see his prime. On the other hand, ODB spent most of his prime in ****ing jail.

[Felipe Q]

Big Pun made 5x Platinum.
ODB made to Gold.

[Green Lantern]

I don't see how you can disagree with the thread title.


c/s

dude's trolling for angry replies as per usual, but it's true

[Felipe Q]

c/s
dude's trolling for angry replies as per usual, but it's true

Oh ****, Green Latern's on SOHH! :laugh: Hows that mixtape with Immortal comin :laugh:
:evil: :ohmy: :smoker: :laugh: :rolleyes: :king: :afro: :whistle: :D :guilty: :weirdo: :weirdo: :thumbsup: :smurf:

[1970's Heron Flow]

Oh ****, Green Latern's on SOHH! :laugh: Hows that mixtape with Immortal comin :laugh:
:evil: :ohmy: :smoker: :laugh: :rolleyes: :king: :afro: :whistle: :D :guilty: :weirdo: :weirdo: :thumbsup: :smurf:
:dry:

[broken_language]

if you disagree with the title, you're either an idiot, or latino. we all know pun was a much better mc, but that isnt the topic at hand...

[1970's Heron Flow]

if you disagree with the title, you're either an idiot, or latino. we all know pun was a much better mc, but that isnt the topic at hand...
:yes:

[infamouswubird]

Did ODB do **** with Jennifer Lopez, Fat Joe, Black Thought, Inspectah Deck, Prodigy, Busta Rhymes, Common, Nas, Pete Rock, Noreaga, Armageddon, Prospect, Raekwon, Cuban Link, Puff, dead prez, Showbiz, Funkmaster Flex, Just Blaze, Big L, Styles P, Jadakiss, G Rap, B Real? Pun also did **** with RZA. He was also affiliated with Snoop Dogg, Puff, Xzibit, Missy Elliot, etc. Plus,

Capital Punishment went 5x Platinum, Yeeeah Baby went 3x Platinum, and Endangered Species went platinum.
is this cat serious? check riaa. 1x plat for capital, gold for yeaa baby.

odb was a much bigger star, your fooling yourself. he was an entity in himself, pun was just another rapper

[slystallion26]

actually no....big pun came at a time when hip hop really started taking off in the mainstream and by the time pun came out odb was very much irrevelant and seen as a joke like britnney spears today

odb's prime was a raw and great time for hip hop...but just for the fact that pun 's time sold more hip hop albums for east coast artists than in 93 and 94 makes this argument irrevelant

just look at the sales...if you want to go by star power

odb was great but wasn't around at the time hip hop was at its height in terms of popularity

[NYSpic]

is this cat serious? check riaa. 1x plat for capital, gold for yeaa baby.

odb was a much bigger star, your fooling yourself. he was an entity in himself, pun was just another rapper

***** please :thumbsdow

Puns a legend, ODB's a dope rapper

[infamouswubird]

***** please :thumbsdow

Puns a legend, ODB's a dope rapper
whats pun a legend for? he made a dope cd, a classic basically. so did dirty, whos also part of the wu. no one is gonna remember pun 30 yrs from now.

odb is a bigger name off the **** he didnt even do musically. bumrushing the grammys already gives dirty the edge.

[Donnie Dopeflow]

If you ask the average person on the street, or even your grandma or something, who are they more likely to have heard of?

ODB, period.

Close thread...

[Felipe Q]

is this cat serious? check riaa. 1x plat for capital, gold for yeaa baby.

odb was a much bigger star, your fooling yourself. he was an entity in himself, pun was just another rapper

And proof that researchers are wrong about saying Wikipedia is usually right.

[Tetris v2.0]

And proof that researchers are wrong about saying Wikipedia is usually right.
Arent you like 14 years old? :laugh: