Whats it gonna take for you guys to recognize Bow Wow as a true MC?

[ceejay187]

I dont get the hate. The dude is hot for real. Hes spitting better then 90% of the rappers out and yall dudes just continue to hate. Seriously he could drop the best line in rap history tomorrow and you guys would say its wack :dry: is it jealousy? why should you be jealous of a lil dude just doing his thing. If you dont feel it, then you dont feel, you aint gotta say hes wack..because thats far from the truth and yall know it. When i read shyt like that its obvious its blatant hate. Listen to his latest single:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPgN0f55sKM

:ohmy: if you don't think this joint is flames your just a certified hater. I don't get why you people on the net just sit here and hate on some of today's best MCs such as 50 & wayne....bow is on their level. Don't believe me go back and listen to doggy bag. I swear its like some of you guys are getting paid the way you spend your time making hate posts. Its pathetic for real...i mean look you guys are even ****ting on soulja boy. Dude has the #1 banger in the country and everybody doing his moves..but you guys claiming he wack...gimme a fukkin break.

[GERMONE]

:laugh: gotta love sarcastic threads....

[ceejay187]

:laugh: gotta love sarcastic threads....
:dry:

tell me that joint aint on on some ayo technology/stronger level?? nm i forgot all you ****s are ***** ass haters

[The Usual Suspect]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL8zW3GCm7c


Bow Wow bodied that **** :laugh:

[lozela]

i dont know about ya'll but let me hold you is one of my fav songs ever plus that get u outta my system is some shyt i can relate to
sometimes i feel like some of ya'll have never been in love with a chick b4

[jrz23]

I like Bow wow.

But I think the reason he doesn't get the respect is because he came out so young with all the kid raps, and girl joint you know what I mean.

really his whole career has consisted with tracks like that so I dont think the hip hop community respects him as a real mc.

Also his image isn't that of the typical rapper, I mean his image is teenage heart throb, not hard MC.

But thats just my look.

[BlackMuzic]

if D4l went conscious would you take them seriously ?

[GERMONE]

:dry:
tell me that joint aint on on some ayo technology/stronger level?? nm i forgot all you ****s are ***** ass haters

ayo technology is weak as hell, stronger is ok. i cant watch youtube at work, but i can honestly say i've never heard a bow wow song that i've liked. the only draw that he's ever had was the fact that he was a child who could rap. his music is meant to target the 13-15 yr old audience, so if youre in that age group then i can understand why you like it.

[ceejay187]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL8zW3GCm7c
Bow Wow bodied that **** :laugh:
smh @ this comment on youtube:
"Bow Wow and Da Brat had the only verses on that ****, Bow Weezy is whack but he bodied that ****"
how can you be wack yet body a track :dry: peoples blood just be pumping haterade.

i dont know about ya'll but let me hold you is one of my fav songs ever plus that get u outta my system is some shyt i can relate to
sometimes i feel like some of ya'll have never been in love with a chick b4hold me down is a hip hop classic. a modern day LL's I need Love. that shyt banged too.

I like Bow wow.
But I think the reason he doesn't get the respect is because he came out so young with all the kid raps, and girl joint you know what I mean.
really his whole career has consisted with tracks like that so I dont think the hip hop community respects him as a real mc.
Also his image isn't that of the typical rapper, I mean his image is teenage heart throb, not hard MC.
But thats just my look.who cares about image, if you can spit you can spit. dude can't help it if he looks hot. is that what it is? yall jealous that he can get puss on call? and of course he had kid raps, he was a kid. the truth is hes rapping better at his age then ANY other rapper ever did. bow was better at age 9,10,11,12,13..etc than pac..big..50...whoever. and thats the truth. whether some of you wanna believe it or not, when its all said and done, bow just might go down as the Greatest of All Time. He definitely has the potential..if he keeps improving every year its a lock. then you guys gonna look back at all his early work and act like yall was feeling it when it came out. :thumbsdow just like with jay's reasonable doubt.

[ceejay187]

ayo technology is weak as hell, stronger is ok. i cant watch youtube at work, but i can honestly say i've never heard a bow wow song that i've liked. the only draw that he's ever had was the fact that he was a child who could rap. his music is meant to target the 13-15 yr old audience, so if youre in that age group then i can understand why you like it.a child that could rap better than the so called legends could at that age. and this new track is about not drinking and driving. its not aimed at 13 year olds.

[GERMONE]

a child that could rap better than the so called legends could at that age. and this new track is about not drinking and driving. its not aimed at 13 year olds.

first off, we never heard what nas, jay, rakim, etc...sounded like at 12 or 13, so you really cant make a valid argument right there.

second, is there proof that bow wow didnt have a ghost writer on any of his albums?

third, by the time youre in junior high, they already teaching kids about not drinking and driving, or using drugs. kids that are 12-14.....

[Kris da 5 9]

Doesn't he still have writers?

[GERMONE]

Doesn't he still have writers?
i wouldnt bet against it

[5 Grand]

The bottom line is that Bow Wow needs to change his name if he wants to be taken seriously.

I mean, how can you take somebody named "Bow Wow" seriously.

[ceejay187]

first off, we never heard what nas, jay, rakim, etc...sounded like at 12 or 13, so you really cant make a valid argument right there. second, is there proof that bow wow didnt have a ghost writer on any of his albums?
third, by the time youre in junior high, they already teaching kids about not drinking and driving, or using drugs. kids that are 12-14.....I believe there was a vh1 special on Jay-z where they showed a clip of him rapping at an early age. He was wack. You've never heard nas, rakim..etc rap when they was little? Yeah theres probably a good reason for that...they couldn't.
Proof that bow didn't have a ghost writer? lol the burden of proof is on the accuser. If you making the claim then YOU gotta back it up with proof, not the other way around.
lol in this new track bows talking about getting hoes..its definitely not for children.
you can stop hating now.

The bottom line is that Bow Wow needs to change his name if he wants to be taken seriously.
I mean, how can you take somebody named "Bow Wow" seriously.because he can rap? wtf does hes name or good looks have to do with anything. The Notrious BIG was a stupid name and he was a greasy fat lazy eyed cripple. it didnt matter cause he could rap.

[Tony Gambino]

Doesn't he still have writers?*END OF THREAD*

[hiphop's savior]

He's trying to be something he's not. He grew up on tv.

[ceejay187]

He's trying to be something he's not.really? just like all these other rappers right? oh nah they're all real and bows a fake. :dry:

[GERMONE]

I believe there was a vh1 special on Jay-z where they showed a clip of him rapping at an early age. He was wack. You've never heard nas, rakim..etc rap when they was little? Yeah theres probably a good reason for that...they couldn't.
Proof that bow didn't have a ghost writer? lol the burden of proof is on the accuser. If you making the claim then YOU gotta back it up with proof, not the other way around.
lol in this new track bows talking about getting hoes..its definitely not for children.

first off, how old was jay? you dont think that maybe nas and rakim dont have anything recorded from 12-13 probably because they just didnt bother to do that at the time? or maybe they couldnt afford it? also kool g rap himself said that the first time he heard nas was back around 88, and he said that even at that time nas was skilled....nas was 20 on illmatic which came out in 94, so take back 6 years and that means he was 14 (one year older than bow wow on his first album) back in 88. who besides jd has cosigned bow wow at an early age?

second...i aint gonna waste time checking to see if he had writers, cause even if he did, his music might be better.

third....he might be reaching for that older audience, but its obivous he's connecting with a very young age group. his albums dont even have cusswords, something a parent would approve of.

[TurbulentMonk]

I like Bow wow.

But I think the reason he doesn't get the respect is because he came out so young with all the kid raps, and girl joint you know what I mean.

really his whole career has consisted with tracks like that so I dont think the hip hop community respects him as a real mc.

Also his image isn't that of the typical rapper, I mean his image is teenage heart throb, not hard MC.

But thats just my look.
thing about bow wow is that he actually is technically good. decent flow, decent voice, etc.

the reason people don't respect him is that he's a major bandwagon hopper/trend follower. he doesn't really have his own style. he's not a leader. add to that the way his career started. he's just not believable. for example he talks about adult stuff but you can tell just by his aura that he's still a kid. i actually liked his music more when he was a kid.

[5 Grand]

Its all in the name.

He needs to change his name

[Mr. Ron Simmons]

Rich kids trying to be ghetto to fit in. What a conundrum... :dry:

[Shot 9 Times]

i dont know about ya'll but let me hold you is one of my fav songs ever plus that get u outta my system is some shyt i can relate to
sometimes i feel like some of ya'll have never been in love with a chick b4

[Knowl]

didn't he just start writin his own rhymes a couple years ago?

didn't TI ghostwrite on Freshazimis.....???

either way, dude is garbage, he's not an mc at all, let alone a top one...

[TUC2DaBoot]

The problem I have with Bow Wow is not that he was a kid rapper. Or that he makes chick songs, or that he appeals to young kids.

But honestly... besides Oh I Think They Like Me Remix, what memorable lines or verses has he spit? What classic songs does he have that we can remember from back then? Let's think of it like this...

Even with Wayne bein how old he is now, everybody remembers a few tracks of his when he was 16, 17. Same with Rakim. Rakim dropped a classic at 17/18.
Hell, even people remember Kris Kross's record from over 15 years ago...

So where are his timeless records? I just showed that age don't mean a thing if you still spittin things people like... just give me three hot verses of his. Three. And I might decide to reconsider...

[TheT Organization]

Him slitting his throat...because no one will ever take him seriously than just a Mcdonald's ass bubble-gum pop artist.


That kid's such a fukking joke.

[Krasnyi Armyi]

thing about bow wow is that he actually is technically good. decent flow, decent voice, etc.
the reason people don't respect him is that he's a major bandwagon hopper/trend follower. he doesn't really have his own style. he's not a leader. add to that the way his career started. he's just not believable. for example he talks about adult stuff but you can tell just by his aura that he's still a kid. i actually liked his music more when he was a kid.

c/s

And he lost points for stepping to Ron Isley like he was somebody...

Ron Isley>>>>Bow Wow's life

[Da_S_Man2]

I would never take dude seriously as a rapper...i would never even bother to take a listen to one of his albums...dude's songs just don't appeal to me...maybe its an age thing...and him and lil mama being the same person is a little disturbing IMO

[Endiphrint]

Since thuggin appears to be the end all/be all for hip hop credibility, then the only way I will respect Bow Wow as an emcee is if he gets shot and dies.

[allhiphopsux]

i respect his talent...but i dont feel his swagga' he tries too hard to sound tough and he over uses slang words like homie neva been on a real block in his life (speaking about interviews and shyt not lyrics)

[Tybo]

seriously........NEVER!!!!!!!

[Da_S_Man2]

...how old is the threadstarter, 15 or some shyt?

[ceejay187]

...how old is the threadstarter, 15 or some shyt?21. :dry: im not the president of his fan club or some shyt like that, i just dont get all hate on such a great young talented mc. especially one with potential to go down as the GOAT. (notice how none of you haters even addressed that) cause yall know it could very well be true. no stan, no hate, thats just real talk.

check out this Paula DeAnda track featuring Bow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjd8YzQFI38
he fukking kills this song, hes flow is :ohmy:... he looking nice too.

seriously just stop hating on duke. give him his respect, yall gonna be those dudes who will jump on him once he dies or gets crowned king :dry:

[5 Grand]

21. :dry: im not the president of his fan club or some shyt like that, i just dont get all hate on such a great young talented mc. especially one with potential to go down as the GOAT. (notice how none of you haters even addressed that) cause yall know it could very well be true. no stan, no hate, thats just real talk.
check out this Paula DeAnda track featuring Bow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjd8YzQFI38
he fukking kills this song, hes flow is :ohmy:... he looking nice too.
seriously just stop hating on duke. give him his respect, yall gonna be those dudes who will jump on him once he dies or gets crowned king :dry:

out of curiousity, what has he done that gives him the potential to go down as The GOAT?

I can name 1 song by him "Oh I think they like me"

I've never heard anybody argue that he has a classic album.

I mean, if he doesn't have any classic songs or albums, he has as much chance of being The GOAT as I do.

[ceejay187]

out of curiousity, what has he done that gives him the potential to go down as The GOAT?
I can name 1 song by him "Oh I think they like me"
I've never heard anybody argue that he has a classic album.
I mean, if he doesn't have any classic songs or albums, he has as much chance of being The GOAT as I do.:thumbsdow

Bounce With Me
Ghetto Girls
Take Ya Home
Fresh Azimiz
Let Me Hold You
Shortie Like Mine
are all classics singles.

dudes albums have all gone plat/multiplat, his flow is unfukkwitable, he has soldout concerts all over the US..ALL BEFORE THE AGE OF 21. not to mention dude's looks would make your girl leave you for just one night with him. im not saying he is the GOAT right now. but nobody..not even the so called GOATS were as good as bow when they were his age. if he keeps progressing his craft every year like hes been doing, he will no doubt end up being the GOAT ever to touch a mic. its in his hands, only he can make it happen and i'd bet my left nut he will. i don't see him slowing down. when its all said and done HE WILL BE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. and thats undeniable real talk. i'm not one of you hating clowns. i can admit this..facts are facts.

[N*IT*2*WIN*IT]

An Act Of God!!!!

[bearclaw]

for him to become a true mc probably

[Hustlemann]

21. :dry: im not the president of his fan club or some shyt like that, i just dont get all hate on such a great young talented mc. especially one with potential to go down as the GOAT. (notice how none of you haters even addressed that) cause yall know it could very well be true. no stan, no hate, thats just real talk.

:
[Braxton P Hartnebrig]WHAT IN TARNATIONS???[Braxton P Hartnebrig]
There's no need to even respond to this, what are you, some chick writing in to Right On! magazine

[GERMONE]

i can honestly say i've never heard a bow wow song that i've liked. the only draw that he's ever had was the fact that he was a child who could rap. his music is meant to target the 13-15 yr old audience, so if youre in that age group then i can understand why you like it.

[Dr. Liggins]

Alot of alcohol and a lobotomy. He's a living, breathing joke. My great great grandkids will be giving this dude noogies and wet willies. He has been fortunate enough to make money despite himself, so he should take that win and leave it alone. He'll never have respect from anyone male and over the age of 15.

[Fatal Lightning]

Some sh!t you saying, you're reaching....but I don't think cats will take him seriously cuz of his kiddie rap past, the possibilty of him still having ghostwriters....all the tatts he got thinkin he a thug, etc. but he can bring it nicely sometimes

[thetruth01]

An Act Of God!!!!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[HIP HOP MUSIC]

WOW THIS IS SINGLE HANDENLY THE MOST DISGUSTING THREAD ... EVER
*vomits*

[ceejay187]

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:ohmy: http://www.zshare.net/audio/33328981e0fcf3 :ohmy:
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bow weezy right now > your favorite rapper

[Vietnametry]

:gag: at this entire thread. I might need to detox.

[BboyStyle]

Bow wow registering trying to fight his name on a message board....SMH

[OO-WEE Truly]

Another Platinum album with the so-so def allstars. All uvem. Kris and Chris, JD, Da Brat, Xscape, Mr. Black, ROC, Lil John and the east side boys, Janet Jackson, if she's really on the roster. Bow-Wow ain't little no mo.

[ceejay187]

its one thing to say you respect bow but you just don't feel his music. but all this hate on the dude?

can anyone here even prove they are better than bow in any way? NO, NONE OF YOU CAN"T. you guys just hate on the net all day :laugh: :laugh: its really pathetic. :laugh: :laugh: and sad. yall some sad bitter hos.

[Lustchild]

like somebody said, he's had ghostwriters for practically every song he's been on. He raps for kids though. True MC's rap for adults and kids alike and also for the respect lyrically.

[Donnie Dopeflow]

i just dont get all hate on such a great young talented mc. especially one with potential to go down as the GOAT. :

Wow.