Another JayZ street affiliate is now dissing him

[eastside313]

This guy is trippin. First Calvin Klein and now Dehaven, damn all JAy ol street friends is not feelin dude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdF5HAWORFs

[Cbanks36]

lol SNITCHING


Sounds like more ETHER

[AD vs. A.D.D.]

Clean the fukking camera off niccas

[doinThangz]

Cam L Lost.

[westkoast2k2]

Honestly it doesnt even matter. Jay moved from the streets into one of the more powerful black men in the entire US. It's a bit bigger then running Marcy or even Bedstuy. Coast to coast.

All these guys, CK included, just sound bummy and bitter to me. That's cool they were the street guys he ran with but that was more then a decade ago. Time to start bragging about what youve done as a grown man.

[aka 80's Kid]

LOL...at least he came right out and said this is about money. His feelings sound real hurt.

[Cbanks36]

Honestly it doesnt even matter. Jay moved from the streets into one of the more powerful black men in the entire US. It's a bit bigger then running Marcy or even Bedstuy. Coast to coast.
All these guys, CK included, just sound bummy and bitter to me. That's cool they were the street guys he ran with but that was more then a decade ago. Time to start bragging about what youve done as a grown man.


lol As a grown Man

I still smokee weed

Listen to Illmatic

got 3 baby mothers

be on the block with 18 year olds screamin youeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i be fresh tho.. i got the jordans 5z :yes: and i mean the ones from back in the day

all the kids be lovin my retroz

[Piffstopher Walken]

Clean the fukking camera off niccas
cause he was spitting the truth, foggin everything up

[westkoast2k2]

lol As a grown Man

I still smokee weed

Listen to Illmatic

got 3 baby mothers

be on the block with 18 year olds screamin youeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i be fresh tho.. i got the jordans 5z :yes: and i mean the ones from back in the day

all the kids be lovin my retroz

Never said you can't enjoy smoking weed and listening to illmatic. That's fine.

If you are going around telling those 18 year olds about what you did in 9th grade and you are 47 years old then thats bummy and it's time to grow up.

[Cbanks36]

Never said you can't enjoy smoking weed and listening to illmatic. That's fine.
If you are going around telling those 18 year olds about what you did in 9th grade and you are 47 years old then thats bummy and it's time to grow up.


GROWN MAN CATCHING FEELINGZ:

Man Fukk is you tryna say

I Grew up with Jigga before he had money


i got pictures an shyt to prove it homey


i was in the studio when he was wit jazz-oo

i was the nikkka in the background on Brooklyn's finest

i still got the piece of Gum BIG let me have

Fukk outta here

[Piffstopher Walken]

GROWN MAN CATCHING FEELINGZ:

Man Fukk is you tryna say

I Grew up with Jigga before he had money


i got pictures an shyt to prove it homey


i was in the studio when he was wit jazz-oo

i was the nikkka in the background on Brooklyn's finest

i still got the piece of Gum BIG let me have

Fukk outta here
so you would turn ya back on your homies?
yea thats cool, f*cking snake ass nicca

[westkoast2k2]

GROWN MAN CATCHING FEELINGZ:

Man Fukk is you tryna say

I Grew up with Jigga before he had money


i got pictures an shyt to prove it homey


i was in the studio when he was wit jazz-oo

i was the nikkka in the background on Brooklyn's finest

i still got the piece of Gum BIG let me have

Fukk outta here

:laugh: sohh at its finest

We need to get you on a youtube video dissing him!

[Yoda3542]

so he talks for 5 minutes on how he's gonna expose him

wow, his mom took Jay to the clinic and bailed him out

whoa, im never buying another Jigga record

[bobbywishbone]

Sub

[ptahblade07]

11 years
plenty platinum albums
3 classics
400 million dollars
4040 clubs
rocawear
coca cola
armadale vodka
new jersey nets
and a fine ass wifey later...

everybody wants to expose him
heres my thing
the fruit you produce bears witness to who you are
if he really was that dirty he wouldnt be here this long

all these dudes so called exposing jay are just male superheads tryin to make a dollar they really the ones unloyal cause they using the name of someone they grew up with and admit they rode out with to make some money

jay could be in his records sayin they was lames and fukk them but he bigs all those dudes up just cause he didnt hand you broke bastards a mill or something it dont mean he dirty

i have no respect for grown men who blame others for they failures

[rscully5]

i guess all these grown men what jayz to raise them.

[Cbanks36]

lol let me stop, i just don't see how he could be mad @ the dudes that got him a little wealth

you can't be on payroll forever and not do shyt

Same goes for Lake,Nature,Mega,Quan

[illwill01]

i havnt watched it yet, but the fact that he was his "right hand man" and now is just speaking out against him now that Jay is in the position he is in says it all. Jealosy and envy, thats all.

[Rakim23]

Jay must of cut a lot of niccas off the payroll this n1gga attacking the whole
Carter family :laugh:

[Wolfe]

This guy is trippin. First Calvin Klein and now Dehaven, damn all JAy ol street friends is not feelin dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdF5HAWORFs

some information on De-Haven & Jigga... (http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=401523)

[Piffstopher Walken]

dehaven was saying how his moms would drive him and jay to the clinic cause they were both burning from f*cking the same b*tch

[2ndRoundKO]

lol As a grown Man

I still smokee weed

Listen to Illmatic

got 3 baby mothers

be on the block with 18 year olds screamin youeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i be fresh tho.. i got the jordans 5z :yes: and i mean the ones from back in the day

all the kids be lovin my retroz

Damn, guess he's in his second childhood...

[J. Rush]

Jay-Z shot his own brother what makes theses niiggas think he would be loyal to them

[J. Rush]

Jay-Z shot his own brother what makes theses niiggas think he would be loyal to them

[Cbanks36]

Damn, guess he's in his second childhood...


ANGRY MAN AGAIN

MAN FUKK YOU

I GOTA BENZ WIT RIMBZ

NO CHILD DRIVES THAT

AND I GOT THAT NEW IPHONE MY DUDE

I DONT CARE THAT I AINT NEVER BEEN LEGIT

IM HOOD RICH AND I PAY ALL MY CHILD SUPPORT

[BLACKOUT]

Why do you dudes automatically take sides without knowing the story? Hypothetically, is there any scenario where a man can express his discontent about a successful person's without y'all calling it "crying", or jealousy and all that sh*T?

I mean if I met Bill Gates back in the 80s and put him through college, introduced him to programmers, and gave him a start up money to build his company..and I happen to get locked up or whatever...when I get out and Bill Gates is a billionaire and can't pay homage then he's a dirty dude and saying so doesn't make me less of a man or none of that sh*t.

[westkoast2k2]

Why do you dudes automatically take sides without knowing the story? Hypothetically, is there any scenario where a man can express his discontent about a successful person's without y'all calling it "crying", or jealousy and all that sh*T?
I mean if I met Bill Gates back in the 80s and put him through college, introduced him to programmers, and gave him a start up money to build his company..and I happen to get locked up or whatever...when I get out and Bill Gates is a billionaire and can't pay homage then he's a dirty dude and saying so doesn't make me less of a man or none of that sh*t.

Because it sounds bummy. That's cool they were once friends and he helped jay out....but if you were a true friend you help someone out because you want them to be happy. Not to get a hand out 15-20 years down the line. I am sure ill have helped people out who may go on to do big things. You won't see me on youtube

"ayo I helped Steve when his car broke down, I took him to work for 2 weeks straight in 2001...now he can't even hand me a grand in 2018? He got like 4 mill in the bank wtf'

Thats just me tho...I like to do things for myself.

[BLACKOUT]

Because it sounds bummy. That's cool they were once friends and he helped jay out....but if you were a true friend you help someone out because you want them to be happy. Not to get a hand out 15-20 years down the line. I am sure ill have helped people out who may go on to do big things. You won't see me on youtube

"ayo I helped Steve when his car broke down, I took him to work for 2 weeks straight in 2001...now he can't even hand me a grand in 2018? He got like 4 mill in the bank wtf'

Thats just me tho...I like to do things for myself.

lol. I see the spin of being independent you're throwing in there but I don't even see that being the case. It's about loyalty period. I prefer making my own too, but Im outspoken and if I don't like a dude or think he's shady or the type to turn his back on his friends once he gets hot, I'll speak my mind and it has nothing to do with me being "needy" or whatever.

[rapbeats]

Because it sounds bummy. That's cool they were once friends and he helped jay out....but if you were a true friend you help someone out because you want them to be happy. Not to get a hand out 15-20 years down the line. I am sure ill have helped people out who may go on to do big things. You won't see me on youtube

"ayo I helped Steve when his car broke down, I took him to work for 2 weeks straight in 2001...now he can't even hand me a grand in 2018? He got like 4 mill in the bank wtf'

Thats just me tho...I like to do things for myself.
^^excellent reply. :yes:

Sure we all may look at the dude on the tube and think, "it sho would be nice if jigga rolled back thru and dropped a bag of cash on me." but, you aint going on youtube clowning. cause you aint that jealous, you aint that envious. everyone helps someone. someone helped you. did you repay them with your blood sweat and tears every day of your life? NO. so why expect that from your old homie?

they lie and say, i just want him to come thru. or it would be nice if he put me on a track. no. you're lying, you want him to give you stuff so you can live off of his hard work and kick back. if he puts you on a joint, you make a bit of cash, you want him to set you up on a label. then the next thing, and the next, and the next. it will never stop. cause anyone going on video crying like that. is jealous. you dont need jealous MEN around you. jealous women are bad enough. jealous men are the worse thing on earth.

if you have a choice of rolling with 20 hard, street"i will murk you if you speak my homies name" type dudes with jealousy/envy in their hearts, as ya crew .. Vs. 20 softies that would lose every fight. but they have your best interest at heart, and no hate/jealous lies in their hearts. You roll with the Softies or roll solo.

[rapbeats]

lol. I see the spin of being independent you're throwing in there but I don't even see that being the case. It's about loyalty period. I prefer making my own too, but Im outspoken and if I don't like a dude or think he's shady or the type to turn his back on his friends once he gets hot, I'll speak my mind and it has nothing to do with me being "needy" or whatever.
^^and thats a problem. everything you think should not be said in public. remember that.

what good is it doing you telling the world that your old homie is shiesty? nothing. you're trying to get revenge cause you feel he did you wrong.
that is a women's type revenge. so unless youre a women. let that go .

no matter how much it burns you up. man up, and keep it pushin. chalk that up as a Lose you took. everyone takes an EL at some point. you end up with a shady homeboy that really isn't your friend. you end up with a shady chick that wasn't never really there for you the person. etc, etc, etc. everybody takes El's in life. chalk it up to the game and keep pushin. get up off of YOutube and DVD's crying about a old friend. its obvious he doesn't feel the same way you do. so thats that.

[westkoast2k2]

lol. I see the spin of being independent you're throwing in there but I don't even see that being the case. It's about loyalty period. I prefer making my own too, but Im outspoken and if I don't like a dude or think he's shady or the type to turn his back on his friends once he gets hot, I'll speak my mind and it has nothing to do with me being "needy" or whatever.

Guess we can agree to disagree...

You can't 'save' and help everyone. There is a lot of these type of guys running around. Jay helps plenty of people. He has a full entourage of friends and family who ride his coat tails. When do you draw the line? And we really dont know how much he did or didnt do for Jay. It just seems as if when these types of doods come forward its always 'I helped him' but never vice versa. Okay so his moms took Jay to the clinic, Jay never helped him or his family? I find it hard to believe he never did anything for anyone but people were lining up to help him.

Im not saying you are needy at all just saying that I personally don't like to ask people for ****. I've helped a number of people who are working their way up to something big and if I hit a bad spot I wouldn't call them or get on youtube.

[BLACKOUT]

Guess we can agree to disagree...

You can't 'save' and help everyone. There is a lot of these type of guys running around. Jay helps plenty of people. He has a full entourage of friends and family who ride his coat tails. When do you draw the line? And we really dont know how much he did or didnt do for Jay. It just seems as if when these types of doods come forward its always 'I helped him' but never vice versa. Okay so his moms took Jay to the clinic, Jay never helped him or his family? I find it hard to believe he never did anything for anyone but people were lining up to help him.

Im not saying you are needy at all just saying that I personally don't like to ask people for ****. I've helped a number of people who are working their way up to something big and if I hit a bad spot I wouldn't call them or get on youtube.

Point taken. I agree...going on youtube is a little corny. I don't know the story but that's the point, no one really does. We know what Jay says. The only reason we know who guys like Klien and Dehaven are is because Jay mentioned them...he used their names and put them in that spotlight to paint a certain picture for the listener. All these dudes mentioned come from a world where loyalty, respect, and reputation is mandatory and all they have. They're not rappers and able to make rebutle tracks to say "wait....this picture this guy painted of our personal dealings isn't really accurate..." so they use the avenues they can.

[rapbeats]

Guess we can agree to disagree...

You can't 'save' and help everyone. There is a lot of these type of guys running around. Jay helps plenty of people. He has a full entourage of friends and family who ride his coat tails. When do you draw the line? And we really dont know how much he did or didnt do for Jay. It just seems as if when these types of doods come forward its always 'I helped him' but never vice versa. Okay so his moms took Jay to the clinic, Jay never helped him or his family? I find it hard to believe he never did anything for anyone but people were lining up to help him.

Im not saying you are needy at all just saying that I personally don't like to ask people for ****. I've helped a number of people who are working their way up to something big and if I hit a bad spot I wouldn't call them or get on youtube.
^^exactly. I know its hard but you should do things for people outta pure love for them. if you do that, you dont expect a thing in return. it would be nice if the favor is return. but see it as a bonus not something that has to happen.

[rapbeats]

Point taken. I agree...going on youtube is a little corny. I don't know the story but that's the point, no one really does. We know what Jay says. The only reason we know who guys like Klien and Dehaven are is because Jay mentioned them...he used their names and put them in that spotlight to paint a certain picture for the listener. All these dudes mentioned come from a world where loyalty, respect, and reputation is mandatory and all they have. They're not rappers and able to make rebutle tracks to say "wait....this picture this guy painted of our personal dealings isn't really accurate..." so they use the avenues they can.
that bold portion. this has always made me laugh. You're in the streets fella.

The streets and sweet. so stop cryin when you find out they aint sweet. stop crying when someone turns snake. stop crying when your homeboy gets shot, or when ya man gets knocked. thats why i always say, no one really is ready for them streets like they swear they are. People are sensitive. Streets and sensitivity dont mix well. someone is bound to do you dirty. and its usually your closest friend or family member.

see an enemy can harm you with a weapon and hurt ya body. but only a true friend or family member close to you can hurt your heart. remember Jesus was sold down the river by his own people. sure someone else actually killed him but he was placed there by his own neighbors. so what do you think they're going to do to you mr. street hustla?


and for the record if he stays affiliated with all these street hustlas. old or new. one or a few of em are still hustlas. meaning they would take a few dollas jay gives them and attempt to flip it(illegally). this could easily have Jay in a Murder Inc situation. where they feds are trying to bring down the big fish in jigga or make him a snitch to whoever is running whatever in the background. and again it may not be that jay is making profit off of dudes ventures. its the point he supplied dude with the funds in which to get it poppin.

If my homeboy started to blow like that. I would be asking dude what job could i do? not what exec job. like can i pick up some speakers and run the soundboard(so what i dont know a thing about it, shoot me some chedda jay so i can learn these boards, then I will repay you with a few free sessions. most dudes aint thinking like that. most dudes want a hand out cause they figure i did you a favor so do me one.

[bigmanharris]

^^and thats a problem. everything you think should not be said in public. remember that.
what good is it doing you telling the world that your old homie is shiesty? nothing. you're trying to get revenge cause you feel he did you wrong.
that is a women's type revenge. so unless youre a women. let that go .
no matter how much it burns you up. man up, and keep it pushin. chalk that up as a Lose you took. everyone takes an EL at some point. you end up with a shady homeboy that really isn't your friend. you end up with a shady chick that wasn't never really there for you the person. etc, etc, etc. everybody takes El's in life. chalk it up to the game and keep pushin. get up off of YOutube and DVD's crying about a old friend. its obvious he doesn't feel the same way you do. so thats that.


ding ding ding!!!! We have a winner. Calvin Klein and Dehaven are acting like little *****es. Dame was too after the Roc breakup. You cannot expect a grown man to carry you if you are supposed to be a grown man. And crying and *****ing about it is something *****es do. *****es get revenge, real *****s take action.

[BLACKOUT]

^^and thats a problem. everything you think should not be said in public. remember that.
what good is it doing you telling the world that your old homie is shiesty? nothing. you're trying to get revenge cause you feel he did you wrong.
that is a women's type revenge. so unless youre a women. let that go .
no matter how much it burns you up. man up, and keep it pushin. chalk that up as a Lose you took. everyone takes an EL at some point. you end up with a shady homeboy that really isn't your friend. you end up with a shady chick that wasn't never really there for you the person. etc, etc, etc. everybody takes El's in life. chalk it up to the game and keep pushin. get up off of YOutube and DVD's crying about a old friend. its obvious he doesn't feel the same way you do. so thats that.

I actually see saying whatever you feel in your heart as a manly trait. If Jay has a pass to speak on these dudes friendship in his songs then give them the pass to clear the air after the fact.

[bigmanharris]

that bold portion. this has always made me laugh. You're in the streets fella.
The streets and sweet. so stop cryin when you find out they aint sweet. stop crying when someone turns snake. stop crying when your homeboy gets shot, or when ya man gets knocked. thats why i always say, no one really is ready for them streets like they swear they are. People are sensitive. Streets and sensitivity dont mix well. someone is bound to do you dirty. and its usually your closest friend or family member.
see an enemy can harm you with a weapon and hurt ya body. but only a true friend or family member close to you can hurt your heart. remember Jesus was sold down the river by his own people. sure someone else actually killed him but he was placed there by his own neighbors. so what do you think they're going to do to you mr. street hustla?

I nominate you for poster of the week.

[westkoast2k2]

Point taken. I agree...going on youtube is a little corny. I don't know the story but that's the point, no one really does. We know what Jay says. The only reason we know who guys like Klien and Dehaven are is because Jay mentioned them...he used their names and put them in that spotlight to paint a certain picture for the listener. All these dudes mentioned come from a world where loyalty, respect, and reputation is mandatory and all they have. They're not rappers and able to make rebutle tracks to say "wait....this picture this guy painted of our personal dealings isn't really accurate..." so they use the avenues they can.


CK gave Jay work when he needed it, Jay def used CK as a blueprint for his persona, and CK wasn't asking for money, I think he said he wanted to work a regular ass job and Jay even told him 'I got you' so I can understand him a bit more.

This guy straight said its strickly about money which I thought was a bit bummy. Go get your own money lol.

You and I are in agreement as far as loyalty goes. I am a real loyal guy. I think the fact Memphis Bleek has clothes on his back and Ty Ty knows what a yaucht looks like shows Jay is loyal. You can't help everyone ya know?

[rapbeats]

CK gave Jay work when he needed it, Jay def used CK as a blueprint for his persona, and CK wasn't asking for money, I think he said he wanted to work a regular ass job and Jay even told him 'I got you' so I can understand him a bit more.
This guy straight said its strickly about money which I thought was a bit bummy. Go get your own money lol.
You and I are in agreement as far as loyalty goes. I am a real loyal guy. I think the fact Memphis Bleek has clothes on his back and Ty Ty knows what a yaucht looks like shows Jay is loyal. You can't help everyone ya know?


and thats another thing. if you help everyone. you end up like hammer. not a bad place to be. but most people clown hammer for going broke by sharing with literally everyone he ever new. and most of em did not return the favor.

[Kaodik]

this is entertaining

[bigmanharris]

and thats another thing. if you help everyone. you end up like hammer. not a bad place to be. but most people clown hammer for going broke by sharing with literally everyone he ever new. and most of em did not return the favor.

When the money went dry, Hammer's friends did too.

[MalcomGuevera]

If It's So Foul Dude Is Blowin Up The Spot, No One Here Should Support The DVD, One Thing I Must Agree With Though Is How BK Is Washed Up.

[BLACKOUT]

and for the record if he stays affiliated with all these street hustlas. old or new. one or a few of em are still hustlas. meaning they would take a few dollas jay gives them and attempt to flip it(illegally). this could easily have Jay in a Murder Inc situation. where they feds are trying to bring down the big fish in jigga or make him a snitch to whoever is running whatever in the background. and again it may not be that jay is making profit off of dudes ventures. its the point he supplied dude with the funds in which to get it poppin.

Are you familiar with the story at all? Just asking. If that's Jay's main reason for allegedly not helping his firends then he shouldn't do songs and say "person X put me in the drug game." Im sure they didn't ask for him to do that. You DON'T know that these dudes are doing anything illegal. Klien is Akon's tour manager now. Let's keep it factual.

If my homeboy started to blow like that. I would be asking dude what job could i do? not what exec job. like can i pick up some speakers and run the soundboard(so what i dont know a thing about it, shoot me some chedda jay so i can learn these boards, then I will repay you with a few free sessions. most dudes aint thinking like that. most dudes want a hand out cause they figure i did you a favor so do me one.

This is purely stuff you made up in your mind. Like WestCoast said, Klien maintains he only wanted a position "in the mail room" so to speak. You dont know the conversations these dudes had or didn't have. That's why Im not taking sides. only saying that giving your side to a story isn't "wrong". When Jesus got betrayed he said it was better for Judas to have never been born than to do what he did. Was Jesus acting feminine? Was he crying" Or just saying what he felt.

[eastside313]

Originally Posted by rapbeats
and thats another thing. if you help everyone. you end up like hammer. not a bad place to be. but most people clown hammer for going broke by sharing with literally everyone he ever new. and most of em did not return the favor.


Hammer went broke because his brother who was his financial manager was robbing him blind.

[SUGEKNIGHTJR.]

so he talks for 5 minutes on how he's gonna expose him
wow, his mom took Jay to the clinic and bailed him out
whoa, im never buying another Jigga record

Yeah..he's like "im gonna do this..im gonna do that" for 5 straight damn minutes ...talking all that Keith Sweat shyt...

what's sad is that he probally got only like 5 minutes worth of material to speak about......... :laugh:

[J0ker_973]

lol this broke ass nicca sound swoll.. u kno he mad when u mentioning family.. & lol at doo who said he stole klein's swag.. first off nobody on sohh knows klein swag well enough to talk about.. second if they both chilled together then obviously they swag would be type similar.. muhfvckas keep tryna get at jay & expose him but all they doin is confirmin da sh1t jay be spittin in his rhymes.. so now we kno that 'jay was in kleins green 5' & that 'jay's man was shot up & layed up in a hospital bed' & that 'dehaven put him onto da game' & lets not forget 'jay fam is fowl'.. i mean it's not like jay didn't say he shot his brother cuz his brother was bein fowl.. wow i guess jay jus got exposed by doos for doin sh1t that he already said he did in his rhymes.. wow.. pure exposure

[Woodrow]

soon as duke said it was about the money, i stopped payin attention. nikkas mad cause they got left behind is not whoa.

[hiphop1000]

When the money went dry, Hammer's friends did too.
ans Jay-Z is way smarter than Hammer,he knows that all these gold diggers have got their lustful eyes on his wealth,thats why his money will last a thousand billion lifetimes:smoker: :king:

[Bone$]

some information on De-Haven & Jigga... (http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=401523)
:yes:

[RochesterSS]

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I Know You Some Serious Jigga Stans And All

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