So now there's no question Ether >>>>>>>> Takeover, Supa Ugly

[RochesterSS]

there's no question now. it's fact

Calvin Klein talking about Jay's status after hearing Ether:

"Nas ruined him, Jay's credibility was shot, he had none. And at the end of the day he was somewhat startled himself about Nas exposing him the way he did"

Jay sounding hurt on Angie Martinez show:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/334516a6f741/

diss tracks are measured by how much they affect the person they are dissing. Ether destroyed Jay's soul and shattered his confidence. meanwhile Nas was laughing on Flunk Flex's show after hearing Takeover. "I feel sorry for Jay and I'll pray for him" - Nas

jigga warriors, i await your excuses

[lobo]

this will prolly be the most avoided thread by jay/50/dip stans.

[lobo]

aye...go ahead with that sh1t, 50 stans are realistic
ether >>>*

you aint a stan though, you'e a real fan.

[yseJ]

there's no question now. it's fact
Calvin Klein talking about Jay's status after hearing Ether:
"Nas ruined him, Jay's credibility was shot, he had none. And at the end of the day he was somewhat startled himself about Nas exposing him the way he did"
Jay sounding hurt on Angie Martinez show:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/334516a6f741/
diss tracks are measured by how much they affect the person they are dissing. Ether destroyed Jay's soul and shattered his confidence. meanwhile Nas was laughing on Flunk Flex's show after hearing Takeover. "I feel sorry for Jay and I'll pray for him" - Nas
jigga warriors, i await your excuses
nas warrior, why are you making the 102998302919383E22448787th thread about takeover vs ether ?
its been 6 years coddamit. let it go already. everybody heard the dam tracks and can decide by themselves.

[305Miami]

SuperUgly is the most underrated record of all-time .... I feel as though the truth of Jay fuccin Nas baby moma hurt Nas more than Jay being called little kid insults such as Ugly, dickrider, a ***, etc on Ether..

[RochesterSS]

Calvin Kelin (Jay's ace from back in the day, the dude who's life Jay swagger jacked):

"I heard the song(Ether) when I was locked up and I was like wow, the song holds so much weight to it, it's ridiculous"

for everyone saying they were "little kid insults"

[Ca$$ius Clay]

Ether had better punches, but the sh1t on Takeover was true

Ether is still the GOAT diss though

"Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy"

[WuTangDude]

Well duh.

[RochesterSS]

nas warrior, why are you making the 102998302919383E22448787th thread about takeover vs ether ?
its been 6 years coddamit. let it go already. everybody heard the dam tracks and can decide by themselves.
decide for yourself?

there is no deciding. i'm telling you which track is better. this is fact, son.

[hiphop1000]

there's no question now. it's fact
Calvin Klein talking about Jay's status after hearing Ether:
"Nas ruined him, Jay's credibility was shot, he had none. And at the end of the day he was somewhat startled himself about Nas exposing him the way he did"
Jay sounding hurt on Angie Martinez show:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/334516a6f741/
diss tracks are measured by how much they affect the person they are dissing. Ether destroyed Jay's soul and shattered his confidence. meanwhile Nas was laughing on Flunk Flex's show after hearing Takeover. "I feel sorry for Jay and I'll pray for him" - Nas
jigga warriors, i await your excusesu mean like nas asking carmen questions like "did he hold him carm" or nas being the first ****** to cry in his sleep.this is thread # 999999999999999999999999999999 is getting tired

[Yellosaurus]

SuperUgly is the most underrated record of all-time .... I feel as though the truth of Jay fuccin Nas baby moma hurt Nas more than Jay being called little kid insults such as Ugly, dickrider, a ***, etc on Ether..

Yeah, you would think so, but Nas didn't seem to be bothered by it on the outside at least. Jay was about to cry over Ether. Based on the available empirical evidence, you gotta give it Nas.

[Yellosaurus]

ight..respect.
lol @ 6 years old....yeah its old but no one told:
bradpiff
shakobe
swagger
purple rain
prince of zammunda
reklezz B
:laugh: ...I could literally go on for days

The four in bold are all the same person. Then you got Yo Yo Ma and all his aliases. Nas haters include some of the most weird, disturbed, socially maladaptive people. Nobody is as obsessively fixated on an artist as they are.

[RochesterSS]

u mean like nas asking carmen questions like "did he hold him carm" or nas being the first ****** to cry in his sleep.this is thread # 999999999999999999999999999999 is getting tired
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

jigga warriors are up against the wall

their last resort is to make up ducktails

Ether = :king: track

[yseJ]

decide for yourself?
there is no deciding. i'm telling you which track is better. this is fact, son.
:laugh:
you stans are hilarious
let me tell you something
only I decide what track is better to ME. get it ?
now get lost with your nas propaganda or I'll call jungle and tell him that instead of putting on nas posters in canada you are posting on sohh.

now, on topic, first and last post
takeover is a great track that took care of several rappers at the same time.
it basically made mobb deep irrelevant and did a lot of damage to nas

ether > takeover in terms of direct dissing tho
nas bodied jay on ether. plain and simple.

superugly was a ruthless diss but the fact that takeover vs ether was the main event overshadowed it. shyt was personal and pretty dam hard. I guess nas didnt care much about it cuz he wasnt such a stan of jigga like jigga was of him
anyway it really didnt do much impact, but if jay actually put those lines on takeover it couldve been disastrous for nas.

that's my take and im out

[kanethegreat]

Classic battle, but the **** was 6 years ago. Leave the **** alone, and stop trying to force your opinion on everyone. You never hear cats trying to force you that The Bridge Is Over was better than Kill That Noise, and so on.

Nas said it best... "Let It Go"

[RochesterSS]

:laugh:
you stans are hilarious
let me tell you something
only I decide what track is better to ME. get it ?
now get lost with your nas propaganda or I'll call jungle and tell him that instead of putting on nas posters in canada you are posting on sohh.
now, on topic, first and last post
takeover is a great track that took care of several rappers at the same time.
it basically made mobb deep irrelevant and did a lot of damage to nas
ether > takeover in terms of direct dissing tho
nas bodied jay on ether. plain and simple.
superugly was a ruthless diss but the fact that takeover vs ether was the main event overshadowed it. shyt was personal and pretty dam hard. I guess nas didnt care much about it cuz he wasnt such a stan of jigga like jigga was of him
anyway it really didnt do much impact, but if jay actually put those lines on takeover it couldve been disastrous for nas.
that's my take and im out
you just admitted Ether is the better track

and that Jay's confidence got shattered by Nas

the fukk am i arguing with you for

you agreeing with me

[NaiSim]

jigga warriors, i await your excuses
:laugh: The Order of the Camel

[badguy]

Powerful thread ***** PIFFF STARS FOR YOU
:yes:

[RochesterSS]

imagine if Klein never did the interview vouching for Jay's fake street cred after Ether came out :ohmy:

Jay wouldn't even be here right now

[Easy-E]

there's no question now. it's fact
Calvin Klein talking about Jay's status after hearing Ether:
"Nas ruined him, Jay's credibility was shot, he had none. And at the end of the day he was somewhat startled himself about Nas exposing him the way he did"
Jay sounding hurt on Angie Martinez show:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/334516a6f741/
diss tracks are measured by how much they affect the person they are dissing. Ether destroyed Jay's soul and shattered his confidence. meanwhile Nas was laughing on Flunk Flex's show after hearing Takeover. "I feel sorry for Jay and I'll pray for him" - Nas
jigga warriors, i await your excuses

How was Jay's confidence shot and soul destroyed, y'all n1ggas act like Ether did a Ja Rule on Jay, Ether was hot.....in 2001:dry:....but hot none the less.

But wit Takeover, I can listen to it now and still feel it cuz it was a better song, wit Ether it's not like It will feel the same, knowing Jay dropped BP2, TBA, and KC, still the KONY, and......(I hate to bring it up) the Def Jam CEO

...I'm being realistic, Ether worn off, n!ggas wanted the battle to stop cuz Jay went too far on 'Supa-Ugly' (Yes, I think it was low for Jay too bring up some dirt like sleepin wit his baby mama)

It's 2007 damn near 0-8....I can't wait for the next dope battle

*edit* I'll give u 3 stars

[jondough150]

klein is a scorn lil women first he big up jay then next he throws dirt.....how can you trust a mans words that acts like that...oh and take over>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ether based on jus facts alone

[RochesterSS]

How was Jay's confidence shot and soul destroyed, y'all n1ggas act like Ether did a Ja Rule on Jay, Ether was hot.....in 2001:dry:....but hot none the less.
But wit Takeover, I can listen to it now and still feel it cuz it was a better song, wit Ether it's not like It will feel the same, knowing Jay dropped BP2, TBA, and KC, still the KONY, and......(I hate to bring it up) the Def Jam CEO
...I'm being realistic, Ether worn off, n!ggas wanted the battle to stop cuz Jay went too far on 'Supa-Ugly' (Yes, I think it was low for Jay too bring up some dirt like sleepin wit his baby mama)
It's 2007 damn near 0-8....I can't wait for the next dope battle
*edit* I'll give u 3 stars
the fukk

everything you just said is your own opinion

i stated facts

another fact:

Hot 97 had a Ether Vs. Takeover public poll

Ether got more votes :king:

[yseJ]

you just admitted Ether is the better track
and that Jay's confidence got shattered by Nas
the fukk am i arguing with you for
you agreeing with me
i was sayin that if somebody feels takeover more than ether, its their opinion
and yea Im agreein wit you cuz im tryin to be objective, but you are such a nas stan its pretty digustin

[freaking badass]

jay so ahead of the game he addressed klein on "trouble" on kingdom come before he got out of his jump suit. and lol @ klein sayin' jay biting him, even sounding and talking like him. who's been the one locked up for years on end with nothin else better to do? smh.

[FSCballin]

How was Jay's confidence shot and soul destroyed, y'all n1ggas act like Ether did a Ja Rule on Jay, Ether was hot.....in 2001:dry:....but hot none the less.
But wit Takeover, I can listen to it now and still feel it cuz it was a better song, wit Ether it's not like It will feel the same, knowing Jay dropped BP2, TBA, and KC, still the KONY, and......(I hate to bring it up) the Def Jam CEO
...I'm being realistic, Ether worn off, n!ggas wanted the battle to stop cuz Jay went too far on 'Supa-Ugly' (Yes, I think it was low for Jay too bring up some dirt like sleepin wit his baby mama)
It's 2007 damn near 0-8....I can't wait for the next dope battle
*edit* I'll give u 3 stars


rightt........



klein is a scorn lil women first he big up jay then next he throws dirt.....how can you trust a mans words that acts like that...oh and take over>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ether based on jus facts alone


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:






lol@Jay fans still losing in 2007

[Ca$$ius Clay]

^^^

Facts wise Takeover>>>Ether

I didn't even think that was an argument

[King Joe]

supa ugly was insane............."Me and the boy A.I. got more in carmen then just ballin and rhymin, get it more in Carmen".... **** was lethal

[young_digital]

there's no question now. it's fact
Jay sounding hurt on Angie Martinez show:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/334516a6f741/
diss tracks are measured by how much they affect the person they are dissing. Ether destroyed Jay's soul and shattered his confidence. meanwhile Nas was laughing on Flunk Flex's show after hearing Takeover. "I feel sorry for Jay and I'll pray for him" - Nas
jigga warriors, i await your excuses
do u have that jay-z interview in full?
also do u hvae the nas interview where he was laughing

[RochesterSS]

Jay stans are crazy

the whole point of a diss track is to hurt your oponent

i'd say Nas accomplished that mission, and then some

[Easy-E]

the fukk
everything you just said is your own opinion
i stated facts
another fact:
Hot 97 had a Ether Vs. Takeover public poll
Ether got more votes :king:

Yeah that's a fact, but that don't account for all of New York...I don't know bout you but the only ppl I know who call radio stations are girls (just tryna be real)
You didn't state any other facts Jay's soul was shattered I was just tryna slide all that "ether still burns" BS...trust me Jay was OK in 2002-present

Damn...I try to respect y'all Nas Stans but y'all cats is (yes, is not are delusional)

And for this Klein n!gga...



:dry: Do you n1ggas honestly beleive the "Brooklyn Don", the kingpin, took a charge for Jay-Z (only a little soldier) out of the kindness of his heart.:dry:

...What the hell Jay own him, they both out the 'game', all Jay was was a soldier, right, what he own the guy he worked for?

Klein is a lame anyway if he a millionaire, rollin in the same cirlces as Jay, and Akon's tour manager (:dry) what he b!itchin bout?

He been out for a while, why come at Jay now?

[freaking badass]

Jay stans are crazy
the whole point of a diss track is to hurt your oponent
i'd say Nas accomplished that mission, and then some

takeover and super ugly didn't do that? how else would you know bout' carmen?

[Ca$$ius Clay]

"Because you know who, did you know what
With you know who, we'll just keep that between me and you for now"

That didn't burn slow?

[Easy-E]

Jay stans are crazy
the whole point of a diss track is to hurt your oponent
i'd say Nas accomplished that mission, and then some


Wait a minute...

N!ggas like D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz, Ying Yang say Hip Hop is not about lyrics but how the music makes ppl feel (Like you just said)

I'm talkin lyrically Takeover>Ether

So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
And you ain't get a coin ***** you was gettin ****ed and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing

Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockerfeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?

Bump this old a$$ battle..Jay and Nas both are Top 2 DOA, b!tches

[RochesterSS]

Wait a minute...
N!ggas like D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz, Ying Yang say Hip Hop is not about lyrics but how the music makes ppl feel (Like you just said)
I'm talkin lyrically Takeover>Ether
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
And you ain't get a coin ***** you was gettin ****ed and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockerfeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Bump this old a$$ battle..Jay and Nas both are Top 2 DOA, b!tches

all your opinion dog

come back when u have some facts

i proved Ether is the better diss

[badguy]

"Facts wise Takeover>>>Ether"

**** outta here *****, his **** was all opinion and he spit lies.... "I been in it 5"

***** was tryin' to underplay his hawaii sophie years....:laugh:

Ether was all true, Klien co-signed

Nas is jay's idol
he got chased to his building
he's a camel lookin *****
He was Wearing Jaz chains, Had no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase

Damn ETHER was too POWERFUL

[Easy-E]

all your opinion dog
come back when u have some facts
i proved Ether is the better diss

After Takeover, DJ Premier (The most famous Nas stan, but still my n!gga) and damn near everybody though Nas' career was ova'

After Ether, who the hell was sayin' Jay's career was ova?

That's fact isn't it?

[badguy]

"so would you call him[Jay] your son.....I mean Kay slay refers to some DJ's 'influenced' by him as his sons.." - radio host
"yeah...I guess you could say that" :laugh: -BK don
"you a dikkriding fa99ot, you love the attention" burn slow

OH SH!T WHO SAID THAT:laugh:

[kingofduval904]

if jay doesnt drop takeover.. nas is nowhere to be found

[RochesterSS]

"What the hell was that??" *laughs histarically* - Angie Martinez right after interviewing Jay, while she was still on the air :laugh: :laugh: gully!

[badguy]

the don nicca who ya think :laugh:
listen to that interview on Shade45

Word? Where can I get it?

[mitchandness]

Ether had better punches, but the sh1t on Takeover was true
Ether is still the GOAT diss though
"Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy"
:yes:

ether = better diss
takover = better song

ayo wheres that thread where bleek be saying after hearing takeover, he told hov "nas got us"?

:laugh:

[RochesterSS]

jigga warriors avoiding this like the plague

[Bausch & Lomb]

"How did Gnause get all that information :laugh: " - the Brooklyn Don
Although I don't know for sure, I always heard that it was Jaz who supplied some of the background info used in Ether (and apparently he confirmed this much in an old issue of FEDS).

[aka 80's Kid]

Real facts(Takeover) kills name calling(Ether) and what the fukk is up with the Rocafella/AIDS line? I love Nas, he has possibly the greatest album of all time with Illmaticand maybe its because Im an educated dude, but that line just had me on some SMH.

Truthfully, a lot of people think Nas won because they WANTED Jay-Z to lose. If nyqqas could justify saying Mobb Deep crushed Jay they would but bullshyt only goes so far. Nas got in some good shots, but imo Jay won that. Not to mention the challenge issued by Jay to Nas to battle at MSG live, where we could have REALLY seen who got them battle skills was quickly turned down by Nas. Had that had been the other way around, nyqqas would have called Jay the biggest puzzy in hip hop history.

[E-MAC]

God D*mn this thread is pure unadulterated ETHER, poor Jigga Warriors running around this thread like chickens with their heads cut off yall keep losing.

[RochesterSS]

Real facts(Takeover) kills name calling(Ether) and what the fukk is up with the Rocafella/AIDS line? I love Nas, he has possibly the greatest album of all time with Illmaticand maybe its because Im an educated dude, but that line just had me on some SMH.
Truthfully, a lot of people think Nas won because they WANTED Jay-Z to lose. If nyqqas could justify saying Mobb Deep crushed Jay they would but bullshyt only goes so far. Nas got in some good shots, but imo Jay won that. Not to mention the challenge issued by Jay to Nas to battle at MSG live, where we could have REALLY seen who got them battle skills was quickly turned down by Nas. Had that had been the other way around, nyqqas would have called Jay the biggest puzzy in hip hop history.

jigga warriors are hilario

you say Takeover is better but then you don't give reasons why

lol @ jigga warriors saying "i love nas", like it will make their posts hold more weight

[RochesterSS]

Ether = :king:

[Kingofkings]

I dont know, Calvin klein said that jay-z was a soldier with dough. (1st lie)
Jay -z has a finer b1tch than jay-z (how could he he rock fellas)
Queens n1ggas run you n1ggas, jay-z runs russel and nas (3rd bullsh1t)
Nas said that he was jay-zs "father" (that means that nas lost cause jay-z is 10 times more successful than his "ather")
In 88 you were getting chased out you building (in 88 nas was 13 years and was a straight A student) 5th lie
you 36 in a karateclass (jay-z turned 36 last year) too much bullsh1t.
My glock (nas has not one single n1gga to back his past without his teachers)

Basiclly ether is one of my favorite songs, but 90 was just bullsh1t he was pushed up in a corner and that makes a rapper talk bullsh1t. Ether is so wack
that hot 97 compared it to a freestyle instead of Takeover.

[Shareef2679]

^^^
Facts wise Takeover>>>Ether
I didn't even think that was an argument

Come on, thats BS.

You tellin me Illmatic, IWW and I Am is a one hot album every 10 year avg?

Thats one of the best first three albums released in the game by an MC.

[hiphop1000]

I dont know, Calvin klein said that jay-z was a soldier with dough. (1st lie)
Jay -z has a finer b1tch than jay-z (how could he he rock fellas)
Queens n1ggas run you n1ggas, jay-z runs russel and nas (3rd bullsh1t)
Nas said that he was jay-zs "father" (that means that nas lost cause jay-z is 10 times more successful than his "ather")
In 88 you were getting chased out you building (in 88 nas was 13 years and was a straight A student) 5th lie
you 36 in a karateclass (jay-z turned 36 last year) too much bullsh1t.
My glock (nas has not one single n1gga to back his past without his teachers)
Basiclly ether is one of my favorite songs, but 90 was just bullsh1t he was pushed up in a corner and that makes a rapper talk bullsh1t. Ether is so wack
that hot 97 compared it to a freestyle instead of Takeover.
plus u have to take into account all the b!tch *****s who only voted for nas just because they felt sorry for his a55-picking up another man's used condom was already too much