Serious Discussion: DID THE BEATLES HAVE HATERS?

[uhhuh]

Did The Beatles have haters back in the day talkin about "man their music is trash f*ck that sh*t"?

Serious question.

Also...Jimi Hendrix? Marvin Gaye? Someone help me out with this. :smoker:

[khrys_x]

Good question...did James Brown have ignorant lil kids calling him a "coon" because he was singing about dancing and having a good time in a deep southern accent?

But seriously, I think every successful act had haters...back in the day cats like Pac and Big had a huge amount of haters...but the thing about hating is, history forgets it...in the end, greatest always prevails...legacies are remembered, and hatred is forgetton

[euro dirt]

everybody has haters

[duck]

hell yeah they had haters. who didnt?

even for nonmusic related attributes. back in them days if you had long hair that alone would get thousands of people thinking your some worthless hippy. lol. seriously

[_OrgaN!zedNYC_]

Anything that's popular is gonna have haters.

[Micgnatize]

dude their was an anti beatles movement....

people who hated their "gayness"

[Ed Gizzle]

dude their was an anti beatles movement....
people who hated their "gayness"
exactly, and later in their career people hated how they SUDDENLY became hippies on some jefferson airplane shyt with the yellow submarine shyt.

[Yellosaurus]

I'm pretty sure the parents of their fans hated them.

[lobo]

Good question...did James Brown have ignorant lil kids calling him a "coon" because he was singing about dancing and having a good time in a deep southern accent?
are you serious? have u heard james's music? yeah he made dance songs but HE WAS A PIONEER! aside from the dance songs, he had incredible music with incredible lyrics regardless of whether he wrote them himself. are you calling UNK, Shop Boys, Huey pioneers? this is a stupid arguement.

[Apey]

Of course...the older generation of musicians HATED The Beatles. Frank Sinatra used to talk a lot of shyt about them and said that rock n' roll was "music for cretins and goons". I saw some footage of the Rolling Stones playing on the Dean Martin show once, and after the song, Dean Martin was like "Wasn't that great? :dry: :rolleyes:

[duck]

Of course...the older generation of musicians HATED The Beatles. Frank Sinatra used to talk a lot of shyt about them and said that rock n' roll was "music for cretins and goons". I saw some footage of the Rolling Stones playing on the Dean Martin show once, and after the song, Dean Martin was like "Wasn't that great? :dry: :rolleyes:
which is ironic since he was an connected to the Mafia

[Mowgli]

The beatles were devil worshipping scum. They had famous devil worshipper alex crowley or whatever his name is on the cover of 1 of their joints. Fukk the beatles

[flapjacks]

Interesting thread.

Yeah, Sinatra and Elvis were both threatened by the Beatles.

Also Lennon said that the Beatles were "bigger than Jesus" and that caused probably the biggest public backlash against a rock group to this day. In the South they staged massive Beatle records burnings. The guy who eventually assassinated Lennon was also a fanatical Christian and had a hard time understanding why one of his music heroes would make that claim about Jesus.

[lobo]

Also Lennon said that the Beatles were "bigger than Jesus"

thing is that he didnt mean it in an offensive manner, just commenting on the unexpected fanbase they attained.

[waLLa b ReNai]

frank zappa OPENLY hated on the beatles. he was one of the bigger acts from europe, so he had credibility. he said that sergeant pepper, which is literally the most CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED ALBUM OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY, was trash, and that it would not hold weight in a matter of years after it came out. now, almost forty years later.....

[Medalion44]

frank zappa OPENLY hated on the beatles. he was one of the bigger acts from europe, so he had credibility. he said that sergeant pepper, which is literally the most CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED ALBUM OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY, was trash, and that it would not hold weight in a matter of years after it came out. now, almost forty years later.....

frank zappa is american.


and, sgt. peppers the most critically acclaimed album of the century? umm....okay.

[God_Tua]

absolutely..back lash ..which balnaced out with further media attention!

Prince had haters galore with his debut and soph album..

[Spike Lee]

nobody on this site knows... the majority of us are 70s,80s and now 90s babies

[Hugh_Jazzcock]

frank zappa is american.
and, sgt. peppers the most critically acclaimed album of the century? umm....okay.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band

#1 on Rolling Stone's list of Greatest Albums of All Time. Sorry, but that album is THE definitiion of a classic.

[THACEO]

i talked to this white woman about it and she said beetles did have haters from the parents. coz christianity was big back then. rock and roll was hated then by parents just like gangsta rap gets it today.

[TurbulentMonk]

Did The Beatles have haters back in the day talkin about "man their music is trash f*ck that sh*t"?

Serious question.

Also...Jimi Hendrix? Marvin Gaye? Someone help me out with this. :smoker:
I heard many times Elvis didn't like The Beatles cause they were taking away from his shyne at certain points.

[beat tape king]

and, sgt. peppers the most critically acclaimed album of the century? umm....okay.

Pretty much. It's regarded as the...no...THE most important album of recorded music of all time.


Not one man's opinion, this is the cultural consensus.


Just saying.

[westkoast2k2]

I know people who hated the beatles then and still hate em to this day. You always find people who don't like very popular artists because everyone else does. Not saying people really just don't like em....but anytime you are popular you get the against-the-grainers.

A lot of british punk bands HATED the beatles and **** on them many times.

[dreggz]

there was but only in the hip hop genre we tear ourselves down

Did The Beatles have haters back in the day talkin about "man their music is trash f*ck that sh*t"?
Serious question.
Also...Jimi Hendrix? Marvin Gaye? Someone help me out with this. :smoker:

[Twofive]

considering john lennon got shot & killed, i think so.............

[dreggz]

naw that's white people for you..just kill and shoot anything just cuz they got molested as a kid

considering john lennon got shot & killed, i think so.............

[AnwarSadatX]

Of course...the older generation of musicians HATED The Beatles. Frank Sinatra used to talk a lot of shyt about them and said that rock n' roll was "music for cretins and goons". I saw some footage of the Rolling Stones playing on the Dean Martin show once, and after the song, Dean Martin was like "Wasn't that great? :dry: :rolleyes:


sinatra was a beatles stan

[toetoe]

A lot of british punk bands HATED the beatles and **** on them many times.


Thats true.They hated Rolling Stones,Led Zeppelin,Black Sabbath,Pink Floyd and David Bowie as well.Because they felt that they had "sold out". When John Lennon died,Johhny Rotten from Sex Pistols said:"I wish it was Paul McCartney instead".

Now THATS a sonning.

[dreggz]

that's true

Thats true.They hated Rolling Stones,Led Zeppelin,Black Sabbath,Pink Floyd and David Bowie as well.Because they felt that they had "sold out". When John Lennon died,Johhny Rotten from Sex Pistols said:"I wish it was Paul McCartney instead".
Now THATS a sonning.

[Yellosaurus]

considering john lennon got shot & killed, i think so.............

:laugh:

[RochesterSS]

uhhhhh are you kidding??

of course the beatles had haters

all those Elvis stans were mad as hell

[Mercury Hayes]

considering john lennon got shot & killed, i think so.............



:ohmy:

[ZEUS]

sgt pepper is the goat album ever any genre

[Bogey_J]

LUCCCCY IN THE SKYYYYYY WITH DIAMONDSSSS...

I dare anyone to listen to "revolution 9" on LSD :ohmy:

[THE DICTATOR]

John Lennon>>hip Hop 2 Day

[Red Fire]

considering john lennon got shot & killed, i think so.............

close thread. 2-5 came in and shut it down!

[Piffstopher Walken]

Beatles made music that changed the world

[flapjacks]

thing is that he didnt mean it in an offensive manner, just commenting on the unexpected fanbase they attained.

:yes: He was pretty much telling the truth too, in certain communities.

frank zappa OPENLY hated on the beatles. he was one of the bigger acts from europe, so he had credibility.

:confused: I don't think he was ever a "big" act, esp. not that early in his career, but you're on point mentioning Zappa. His Sgt. Pepper parody album was We're Only In It For The Money, and it does ether both the Beatles AND the whole '67 Summer of Love scene (which is a bit separate from the Beatles themselves--Zappa hit everyone).

Sgt Pepper as the "best album": Even at the time certain critics thought that Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys was better, but the point is that Sgt Pepper made a mass audience take rock/pop music as potentially artistically meaningful. Even from the cover you could tell "this is supposed to be a work of art that says something about our culture". Dylan had already done that for folk, and of course tons of jazz musicians had done that for jazz, but rock/pop >> folk and jazz in popularity, that's why people made a big deal about Sgt. Pepper. I personally like Revolver and Rubber Soul more, but those album weren't as upfront about being artistic. You know what album kinda of did the same for hiphop and made the critics at large take it seriously as an artform? PE's It Takes a Nation...

(wtf is this thread doing in the Spot?)

[Yoda3542]

Did The Beatles have haters back in the day talkin about "man their music is trash f*ck that sh*t"?
Serious question.
Also...Jimi Hendrix? Marvin Gaye? Someone help me out with this. :smoker:

OF COURSE

it was mainly old people mad they were so successful promoting free love and drugs

it aint like now with dorks talking about their lyrics on the internet

[Ed Gizzle]

LUCCCCY IN THE SKYYYYYY WITH DIAMONDSSSS...

I dare anyone to listen to "revolution 9" on LSD :ohmy:
naw, listen to WHITE RABBIT by jefferson airplane high...

[Kingofkings]

no they didnt!, everything was about love all the way until the west coast started with all this gangster sh1t

[YoungPimpin]

Pretty much. It's regarded as the...no...THE most important album of recorded music of all time.
Not one man's opinion, this is the cultural consensus.


White consensus.

[Ed Gizzle]

White consensus.
don't you love how that is now FACT and it IS THE TRUTH :dry:

[ReverseArchaeologist]

The U.S. vs John Lennon

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OX8C-Jfr3Jo

Hating is probably the most appropriate term to describe this shambles.

I'm gunna go hate on the U.S.A, I'll be back later.

[Clem]

White consensus.
In your opinion what is the black consensus for greatest album of all time?

[oyoyoy]

White consensus.

lmao. :laugh:

^ In your opinion what is the black consensus for greatest album of all time?

[Brooklyn329]

Funny how no one has proffered an answer to the question. But to be real, dude wasn't completely off base when he said "White consensus".

[Spirit9]

In your opinion what is the black consensus for greatest album of all time?
I don't know what YoungPimpin had in mind, but if I had to make the argument, I'd say Thriller. Tracks from Thriller opened the doors for Black artists to get on MTV, and has since inspired a countless number of singing/dancing pop artists, both white and black. Justin, Usher, Robin Thicke with his recent falsetto, Britney Spears, Omarion, Chris Brown, Ne-yo, Backstreet Boys, and even Pharrell to an extent has taken from the Michael Jackson/Thriller template. It also helps that Thriller is the biggest selling album of all time.

My opinion is that both Sgt. Pepper and Thriller are the greatest of all time, but for COMPLETELY different reasons and one doesn't really outweigh the other. For every accolade Sgt. Pepper has, Thriller probably has the same amount, if not more accolades due to it's large scale success and resonance in pop culture.

[Brooklyn329]

I don't know what YoungPimpin had in mind, but if I had to make the argument, I'd say Thriller. Tracks from Thriller opened the doors for Black artists to get on MTV, and has since inspired a countless number of singing/dancing pop artists, both white and black. Justin, Usher, Robin Thicke with his recent falsetto, Britney Spears, Omarion, Chris Brown, Ne-yo, Backstreet Boys, and even Pharrell to an extent has taken from the Michael Jackson/Thriller template. It also helps that Thriller is the biggest selling album of all time.

My opinion is that both Sgt. Pepper and Thriller are the greatest of all time, but for COMPLETELY different reasons and one doesn't really outweigh the other. For every accolade Sgt. Pepper has, Thriller probably has the same amount, if not more accolades due to it's large scale success and resonance in pop culture.

Excellent post.

Both had tremendous impacts when initially released.

Both of course sold sh!tloads of records.

Both won Album of the Year Grammys.

Both frequently still top or rank highly on "best album ever" lists.

[king_k4life]

In your opinion what is the black consensus for greatest album of all time?


Thriller


AND I'm 17

Everyone that tells you different gets smacked