Biggie is a Forced Legend

[tahbasb]

One album when alive does not make you a legend. Pac made him a legend by mentioning him in the whole East-West coast thing and dying first.

Pac played a role in Biggie's legendary status.
And lets be real people. If you ask surbaban folk who their favorite rapper is, more people would say Pac than Big
If you were to also ask hood folk (including NY) who their favorite rapper is, more people would say Pac than Big too

[Freekey Zeekey]

Wrong, unlike Pac Biggie garnered the respect as an elite MC with Ready to Die
while he was alive

[danja29]

Maaaan oh man. :thumbsdow

Niccas just wanna be able to say they started threads that got lots of posts, huh?

I love all this "revisionist history" that allows people to re-write whatever they want to.

[ridgegeneral]

do you listen to music or do you just skim through it

[gotti capone]

Life After Death>>>>Pac's catalogue.

[Swagger]

biggie smalls is the illest

[Spike Lee]

n1ggas wasn't calling Pac nor Big the goats when they were alive

they were both just ill rappers

[Stugotz94]

bitin my post style

pac's a bigger legend than biggie but biggie aint a forced legend

he was king of NY when alive

[no_better_than_me]

Life After Death>>>>Pac's catalogue.
:laugh:

[Woodrow]

bitin my post style
pac's a bigger legend than biggie but biggie aint a forced legend
he was king of NY when alive

:yes:

Pac is hip-hop's answer to Elvis. in a lot of ways he was much bigger than hip-hop. that doesn't mean biggie wasn't, or can't be, a better mc. he was. pac was a bigger star.

[Thierry Henry]

I swear it is only kids that were not even on the scene at the time that think PAC was even in the same league. Biggie was killing it at a time, while it was only girls that were into tupac. Lets be honest tupac was a sh!t rapper and his tunes were sh!t.

[beat tape king]

n1ggas wasn't calling Pac nor Big the goats when they were alive

they were both just ill rappers

True story.


I heard several people call Biggie their "favorite" rapper...but that would be interchangable with Method Man or Sticky Fingaz or whoever was poppin' at the moment.

This Biggie was the undisputed "greatest of all time" started with that nerd Canibus. Before that, I didn't hear any of that aside for hyperbole and his folks. Everybody's peoples calls them the greatest or "one of the" greatest. But before Canibus said it, Biggie wasn't the "greatest rapper of all time."

And for the record, I rolled my eyes when I first heard that rhyme. O-kay, buddy, let's not get ahead of ourselves. And he ended up rewriting history.

As for 2Pac, Westcoast people been calling him the greatest since twenty minutes after he died. The two months after his death were excruciating.

[Stugotz94]

I swear it is only kids that were not even on the scene at the time that think PAC was even in the same league. Biggie was killing it at a time, while it was only girls that were into tupac. Lets be honest tupac was a sh!t rapper and his tunes were sh!t.


i don't know where you were at becuz everyone in the hood sweats Pac hard now and back then even more. Biggie was also killing it like you said, but pac was in no way only liked by the women

ps - i personally like Biggie way better than Pac but Pac was a bigger legend to the world and music

[Roovers410]

check the sig...
in terms of flow and lyrical (wordplay) ability no one ever came close at his prime

[Super Mario]

revisionist history from people who didnt live in that era..

[Crazy_Serbian]

Life After Death>>>>Pac's catalogue.

[Mowgli]

In my underground days i looked at biggie as 1 of the destroyers of hiphop. I remember bein in high school callin his albums Ready to Eat and Life After Dinner. Dam.

[Donnie Dopeflow]

Biggie Smalls is the illest

[Play B-O-Y]

biggie was homosexual

[Thierry Henry]

Also for me Wu-tang were the ones that were really standing out. New York as a whole was killing it with the likes of craig mac and keith murray as well, but Wu brought something so original and raw to the table.

[Bernie]

sure is.... 5 good songs dont make u a legend

[slystallion26]

I swear it is only kids that were not even on the scene at the time that think PAC was even in the same league. Biggie was killing it at a time, while it was only girls that were into tupac. Lets be honest tupac was a sh!t rapper and his tunes were sh!t.

exactly all these kids learned their f*ckin hip hop from vh1 and wasn't around at the time...

if you were they would know the deal makaveli was big at the time too though...but B.I.G. just had that cool delievery that nobody has matched yet...

[slystallion26]

and as far as this bullsh*t about oh he only came out with 2 albums....

well guess what hardly any other legend has more than like 2 good albums...

and when we compare legends we compare their best work against each other...

it just so happened that every song biggie worked on....was amazing...thus his best work and it stands the test of time and defeats the likes of greats like jay and nas

[Bernie]

biggie is a fraud...hell his own momma even sonned that niggga for some **** he put in juicy.....2 albuims that were not in any way good....stop hyping this ***** up ****......he is not a legend....carmelo anthony has been medicore but if he retired today u would not call him a legend...so please lets stop this nonsense...pac is the greatest of all time...pac is a legend

[Stugotz94]

if biggie aint a legend then why's he been dead all these years and you geeks are still talkin about him?

and jay-z stays bitin his rhymes

and rappers be bitin his style


that's right biitch


biggie = legend

[duck]

big was dope

but pac > big

i dont care what anyone says

[slystallion26]

big was dope
but pac > big
i dont care what anyone says

your 17 right? Saw the whole beef thing on vh1?

Biggie was a much better rapper...pac was probably a better character actor and knew how to catch people's attention in his songs....

both great but as far as rapping skills Biggie gets the nod

[TUPACALYPSE]

biggie is a forced legend the only reason hes a legend is because the whole east coast vs west coast thang & since pac died a legend the east coast was ridin with big & started callin him a legend and the greatest rapper of all time even thoe all of the world knows this isnt true

[-Louisville Slugga-]

smh at nobody callin biggie the greatest til diddy said it

[Blue Ragg]

If it would've been Snoop who died in 96 and then Nas in 97 rather than Pac and Big, respectively, there'd be different Westcoast and Eastcoast GOATs.

As far as Big being lyrically great, tell me one song that fuccs with Nas, Rakim, Rass Kass, Canibus, etc. lyrically in their primes. It's just no comparison.

What made Big great was mic presence, charisma, voice, delivery, and just plain style, which by 97 he had changed to match a westcoast steee.

[Felonious Monk]

n1ggas wasn't calling Pac nor Big the goats when they were alive

they were both just ill rappersPretty Much.

I find its more so fans of 2pac call him a legend than fans of hip hop in general.

Flows=Biggie>>>Pac

Influence=Pac>>>Big

Puff made Biggie what he is today.

Pac made himself.

[postaboi713]

I swear it is only kids that were not even on the scene at the time that think PAC was even in the same league. Biggie was killing it at a time, while it was only girls that were into tupac. Lets be honest tupac was a sh!t rapper and his tunes were sh!t.

u can't be serious :thumbsdow

[duck]

your 17 right? Saw the whole beef thing on vh1?
Biggie was a much better rapper...pac was probably a better character actor and knew how to catch people's attention in his songs....
both great but as far as rapping skills Biggie gets the nod


i'm 27 and i'll smack that stupid look off your face you glamour shot avi repping, bush supporting, greezy hair homo

[duck]

almost all east coasters roll with big (because they feel they need to represent their own)

almost all west coasters rep pac (because the feel they gotta rep their own)

but most people not from them coasts (who are nuetral) pick pac over big

[FLAGRANT]

Life After Death>>>>Pac's catalogue.

[Yellosaurus]

n1ggas wasn't calling Pac nor Big the goats when they were alive

they were both just ill rappers

c/s. Pac and Big are far and away the two most overrated rappers of all time.

[TUPACALYPSE]

c/s. Pac and Big are far and away the two most overrated rappers of all time.

YOUR LIFE IS OVERRATED

[Yellosaurus]

YOUR LIFE IS OVERRATED

:thumbsdow Wack. Didn't even make sense.

[Yellosaurus]

biggie smalls is the illest

This dude has gotta be mildly retarded. All he ever does is going around typing either "biggie smalls is the illest" or "nas lost." Dude is like sohh's version of Special Ed from Crank Yankers.:weirdo:

[Thierry Henry]

u can't be serious :thumbsdow
For real!
Someone put up some tupac lyrics and lets check them out????
Edit:
was not a big fan but from what I remember his lyrics were basic.
He used to sing lines like 50

[Yellosaurus]

biggie is a forced legend the only reason hes a legend is because the whole east coast vs west coast thang & since pac died a legend the east coast was ridin with big & started callin him a legend and the greatest rapper of all time even thoe all of the world knows this isnt true

You could say essentially the same thing about Pac. They're both overrated. If you stopped dyckriding for a second, and attempted to look at it with some degree of objectivity you might see that.

But then again, I don't expect any fairmindedness or cessation of dyckriding from someone who names himself "TUPACALYPSE."

[Swagger]

its the NO-TO-RI-O-US

you jus

lay down

slow

[C.R.£.A.M]

BIG is a supreme lyricist and a very good artist BUT he is a peon compared to Pac when talking about legendary status.

[Roovers410]

if biggie had 6 albums and pac only had 2, nobody would place pac on b.i.g level....so with 2 albums big proved to be the illest

[Shaheed]

BIG is a supreme lyricist and a very good artist BUT he is a peon compared to Pac when talking about legendary status.

Exactly!

[BossHogg]

very true. Puffy and his marketing machine @ Badboy made him into a so called "Legend" after his death by constantly paying tribute to him over the years with garbage like, "missing you" and constantly calling him king of NY.

truth is, like the war in iraq, you tell the sheep a million times something, they gonna believe it.

[HIP HOP MUSIC]

no, hes not you whiteboy *** who thinks 2pac is the best rapper, and therefore must agree on every beef he ever started and couldnt end

[HIP HOP MUSIC]

^^^
"no, hes not a forced legend" he IS a legend