View Full Version : Carter 1 and 2 are Both better than Kingdom come and Hiphop is dead
I Got It
06-25-07, 05:29 AM
I aint even saying that lil wayne is better than nas or jay...Noway in hell he is even on there level Historicly...and jay and nas both have albums that are so good wayne could never math them EVER...
but carter 1 and 2 are better than Kingdom come and Hhid and to me anyone who says differnt is foolish
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 05:36 AM
Shut ur dumb azz up
Dedication 2 is better than Carter 1 and 2
both of those albums are based solely on fantasy
nice try
I Got It
06-25-07, 05:41 AM
listen to the albums with a open mind...and not that "its jay and nas its gotta be better than waynes shyt" attitude and u will have no choice but to admit it
AsherDG
06-25-07, 05:48 AM
No.
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 05:56 AM
listen to the albums with a open mind...and not that "its jay and nas its gotta be better than waynes shyt" attitude and u will have no choice but to admit it
in 2007 with the state of hip hop all but in total anarchy
the last thing i want to listen to is Coke fairytales from a non-drug dealer fake Rasta
(No Gusto)
Nas and Jay was spittin that real sh*t on both of those albums
listen with an open mind lmao u kno how old i am... fukk outta here lil nikka
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 06:55 PM
No.
Obstical
06-25-07, 06:59 PM
Carter 2 > HHID > Carter 1 = Kingdome Come
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:03 PM
Carter 2 > HHID > Carter 1 = Kingdome Come
no
jade feria
06-25-07, 07:07 PM
Not.
My order:
Carter 1 > HHID > Carter 2 > Kingdom Come
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:10 PM
HIP HOP IS DEAD > The Carter 1
KINGDOM COME > The Carter 2
Lyrical Content always prevails over dope beats and classic 1 minute metaphors
westkoast2k2
06-25-07, 07:11 PM
Not sure if this is a shock thread or what.....but I think the Carter 1 and 2 are more entertaining to listen to then Kingdom Come.
I also am not saying Wayne is better then Jay-z, just that I find those two tapes more entertaining then his last album.
jade feria
06-25-07, 07:12 PM
^^TheTruth87 You really think KC is better than Carter 2?
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:12 PM
Not sure if this is a shock thread or what.....but I think the Carter 1 and 2 are more entertaining to listen to then Kingdom Come.
I also am not saying Wayne is better then Jay-z, just that I find those two tapes more entertaining then his last album.
westkoast2k2
06-25-07, 07:12 PM
^^You really think KC is better than Carter 2?
Nope, flip that around.
I did not like KC at all
ClemsonFALCON
06-25-07, 07:13 PM
no shock thread, this is true
jade feria
06-25-07, 07:13 PM
Nope, flip that around.
I did not like KC at all
Neither did I.
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:14 PM
^^TheTruth87 You really think KC is better than Carter 2?
its not close!
Kingdom Come went over 85% of its listeners heads, i guarantee when the majority of the people who hated on the album 2 or 3 years from now listen again and think about the state of the game they will appreciate it more
listen to the albums with a open mind...and not that "its jay and nas its gotta be better than waynes shyt" attitude and u will have no choice but to admit ityou cant tell anybody else to have an open mind when you made a thread that is basically saying "my personal opinion is the gospel and anybody who disagrees with my personal opinion is foolish". fuk outta here lil boy.
jade feria
06-25-07, 07:16 PM
its not close!
Kingdom Come went over 85% of its listeners heads, i guarantee when the majority of the people who hated on the album 2 or 3 years from now listen again and think about the state of the game they will appreciate it more
Ok, relative to the state of the game, it's good, but relative to other albums that were fire in terms of lyrical content and originality, it's trash (IMO). Ok maybe not trash, but it's touching the recycling bin.
westkoast2k2
06-25-07, 07:17 PM
its not close!
Kingdom Come went over 85% of its listeners heads, i guarantee when the majority of the people who hated on the album 2 or 3 years from now listen again and think about the state of the game they will appreciate it more
Nah it didn't go over my head...I think his marketing plan went over the heads of the people who are saying 'it went over your heads'
The grown man marketing plan was just that...a marketing plan, ayo this is grown man hip hop, I'm so grown! Then he turns around and does things to try contradict that. He's trying to cater to the people who say he should grow up yet at the same time still wants to be young hova, the hustla who flosses like no other.
"BIGBRUHBRUH"
06-25-07, 07:19 PM
Kingdom Come is almost as bad as Blueprint 2. HHID is almost as bad as Nastradamus. Im going to have to agree with the threadstarter.
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:19 PM
Ok, relative to the state of the game, it's good, but relative to other albums that were fire in terms of lyrical content and originality, it's trash (IMO). Ok maybe not trash, but it's touching the recycling bin.
take it out of the bin.... dust it off and listen like Kahled says
word is bond..you got it backwards, that Carter 2 is the album thats hyped and lacks originality.. For God sakes there wasn't even a song about Katrina on that album... but keeping it Hip Hop The Carter 1 is better than 2... Content, production, single choices, but that album alone isn't better than Jay's
khrys_x
06-25-07, 07:20 PM
Both Carters are easily better than KC to me...I prolly wouldn't listen to KC at all if it weren't a Jigga album, I forced myself to for like 2 months straight...just because it was Jay...I'd rank them
Carter 2 > Carter >HHID > KC
And for the dude that brought up Dedication 2, I like that better than KC and HHID too...no comparision...the Ambitionz/Georgia Bush extended track is better than any song on those albums
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:21 PM
in 2007 with the state of hip hop all but in total anarchy
the last thing i want to listen to is Coke fairytales from a non-drug dealer fake Rasta
(No Gusto)
Nas and Jay was spittin that real sh*t on both of those albums
listen with an open mind lmao u kno how old i am... fukk outta here lil nikka
lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kUgL67eZsY
No Gusto? lol
Hug_A_Hater
06-25-07, 07:24 PM
gotta admit both carter albums were nice Carter 1> Carter 2 btw....
Carter 2 had better beats....lyrically inferior though
carter 1 >HHiD=carter2>kc I think thas about right...
carter1 borders on classic but not quite there yet, for todays wack-ass hiphop climate it could be considered a classic.
Papiflex
06-25-07, 07:24 PM
in 2007 with the state of hip hop all but in total anarchy
the last thing i want to listen to is Coke fairytales from a non-drug dealer fake Rasta
(No Gusto)
Nas and Jay was spittin that real sh*t on both of those albums
listen with an open mind lmao u kno how old i am... fukk outta here lil nikka
lmao let him no
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:27 PM
No Gusto
shyt has me dying lol
Uptown B. Fresh
06-25-07, 07:34 PM
LMAO at cats saying The Carters were built on fantasy and praise Nas' Escobar fairytales. Anyway if you really wanna look at it, Nas albums have been snorefests post-Stillmatic era and Kingdome Come was one of the worst albums I ever heard.
The Carter 1 and 2>>>Any Nas album post 2001(minus lost tapes) and Kingdome Come.
But Nas>Jay>>>Weezy, lyrically.
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 07:37 PM
The Carter Fantasy lmao
but your right its just like The Firm Fantasy and the IT Was Written one 2, but with that being said
It Was Written > Weezy F's catalog
jade feria
06-25-07, 07:37 PM
LMAO at cats saying The Carters were built on fantasy and praise Nas' Escobar fairytales. Anyway if you really wanna look at it, Nas albums have been snorefests post-Stillmatic era and Kingdome Come was one of the worst albums I ever heard.
The Carter 1 and 2>>>Any Nas album post 2001(minus lost tapes) and Kingdome Come.
But Nas>Jay>>>Weezy, lyrically.
I'll agree with you on that.
Monoblock
06-25-07, 07:42 PM
Both Carters are easily better than KC to me...I prolly wouldn't listen to KC at all if it weren't a Jigga album, I forced myself to for like 2 months straight...just because it was Jay...I'd rank them
Carter 2 > Carter >HHID > KC
And for the dude that brought up Dedication 2, I like that better than KC and HHID too...no comparision...the Ambitionz/Georgia Bush extended track is better than any song on those albums
pretty much how I feel
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 08:03 PM
Who upped this shtitt
Thread is garbage
Waynes Albums are Ducktales
They lack substance
The Carter 2 was a poor attempt to make an East Coast hip hop album
Bay24 or w/e the fukk your name is, you need to read this
Gusto tried to sound like an East Coast MC on Carter 2 :laugh:
ptahblade07
06-25-07, 08:07 PM
you just want some attention
carter 1 and 2 are better than kingdom..........boy you so silly
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Cbanks36
06-25-07, 08:10 PM
you just want some attention
carter 1 and 2 are better than kingdom..........boy you so silly
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I Got It
06-25-07, 08:30 PM
cbanks is really mad that wayne has become alot more relevent than his heros
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 08:31 PM
cbanks is really mad that wayne has become alot more relevent than his heros
i feel like dying
(No Gusto)
bkgiggles86
06-25-07, 08:34 PM
HHID was trash so I definitely agree, but your crazy about KC!!!!
The Prelude>>>>C1, C2
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 08:36 PM
Blunt Asshes > C1, C2
Nas albums have been snorefests post-Stillmatic era and Kingdome Come was one of the worst albums I ever heard.
this pretty much rendered your opinion useless in my eyes.
ive got carter1 and its aight, ive heard carter 2 and its not as good but its aight too. i just dont think that there is a comparioisn between artists like nas&jay, and weezy. i honestly cant say that either of those carter albums are better than hhid or kc.
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 08:44 PM
this pretty much rendered your opinion useless in my eyes.
ive got carter1 and its aight, ive heard carter 2 and its not as good but its aight too. i just dont think that there is a comparioisn between artists like nas&jay, and weezy. i honestly cant say that either of those carter albums are better than hhid or kc.
this thread is trash!
hip hop has gotten so bad that lil wayne is getting compared to Nas and Jay
next week it will be Bow Wow and Romeo
TheTruth87
06-25-07, 08:49 PM
this thread is trash!
hip hop has gotten so bad that lil wayne is getting compared to Nas and Jay
next week it will be Bow Wow and Romeo
ROFLMAO
EBOConPOINT
06-25-07, 09:27 PM
its one thing to say an album was more "entertaining" than someone elses than to say its just better. shti if we;re talking entertaining HHID is mos def last on the list and chicken noodle soup along with anything by Jim Jones is classical material. and thats honesty. But please dont say **** is better without any evidence.
Life is but a dream to me
I don't wanna wake up
Thirty odd years without having my cake up
So I'm about my paper
24/7, 365,366 in a leap year
I don't know why we here
but since we gotta be here
Life is but a beach chair
Went from having shabby clothes
Crossing over Abbey Roads
Hear my angels singing to me
Are you happy HOV?
I just hope im hearing right
Karma's got me fearing life
Khalik are you praying for me?
I got demons in my past
So i got daughters on the way :ohmy:
If the prophecy's correct
Then the child should have to pay
For the since of a father
So i barter my tommorows
Against my yesterdays
In hopes that she'll be OK
And when im no longere here
The shade of face from the flare
I'll give her my share of Carol's Daughter
and a shiny new beach chair
thats from one of the worst songs on the album, and weezy aint got anything remotely fukcin with that on any of those "classics" you talkin about. and if he does really, then show me, maybe im im just ignorant.
EBOConPOINT
06-25-07, 09:27 PM
post somethin really
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 09:32 PM
its one thing to say an album was more "entertaining" than someone elses than to say its just better. shti if we;re talking entertaining HHID is mos def last on the list and chicken noodle soup along with anything by Jim Jones is classical material. and thats honesty. But please dont say **** is better without any evidence.
Life is but a dream to me
I don't wanna wake up
Thirty odd years without having my cake up
So I'm about my paper
24/7, 365,366 in a leap year
I don't know why we here
but since we gotta be here
Life is but a beach chair
Went from having shabby clothes
Crossing over Abbey Roads
Hear my angels singing to me
Are you happy HOV?
I just hope im hearing right
Karma's got me fearing life
Khalik are you praying for me?
I got demons in my past
So i got daughters on the way :ohmy:
If the prophecy's correct
Then the child should have to pay
For the since of a father
So i barter my tommorows
Against my yesterdays
In hopes that she'll be OK
And when im no longere here
The shade of face from the flare
I'll give her my share of Carol's Daughter
and a shiny new beach chair
thats from one of the worst songs on the album, and weezy aint got anything remotely fukcin with that on any of those "classics" you talkin about. and if he does really, then show me, maybe im im just ignorant.
its krazy how these kids are trippin out these days
waits for VH-1 hip hop honor 2020 for Gusto to come out and perform gems like Fireman, Shine, Where u at?, Tha block is hott
mitchandness
06-25-07, 09:34 PM
Dig A Hole & Money Over Bullsh1t > Weezers Discography
No Homo
06-25-07, 09:53 PM
C2>C1=HHID>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KC
Seriously KC is one of the worst albums ive ever heard.
Cbanks36
06-25-07, 09:56 PM
Carter 1 is better than Carter 2
Dedication 2 is better thanCarter 2
HHID is better than both carters
KC is better than both carters
I bet you all bump Carter 1 & 2 while kissing your Daddy's too SMH. HHID was the best album of last year and while KC was garbage it still sh*ts on TC 1 and 2 which are possibly the worst 2 albums of all time.
MartinAsante
06-26-07, 11:44 AM
Not sure if this is a shock thread or what.....but I think the Carter 1 and 2 are more entertaining to listen to then Kingdom Come.
I also am not saying Wayne is better then Jay-z, just that I find those two tapes more entertaining then his last album.
Well put. Because Jay Has a better track record then Weezy of course, with albums like THe Blueprint and Reasonable DOubt.
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