*FELLAS: Start using CREATINE now! That sh!t really works!*

[PeterVankmen]

I've been working out for only two weeks, and have been takign two scoops after every work out. Dude, you can soooo see the vains in my arm, and my bi-ceps have swollen up a lil bit too...

Yeah, I know it's mostly water, and once I come off the stuff they will go down.

But as of rigt now I can where the t-shirts and look like I been doing it...

If you tryna get right for this summers fellas I suggest you go get you some monohydrate and bulk up!

[ill_element]

I've been working out for only two weeks, and have been takign two scoops after every work out. Dude, you can soooo see the vains in my arm, and my bi-ceps have swollen up a lil bit too...
Yeah, I know it's mostly water, and once I come off the stuff they will go down.
But as of rigt now I can where the t-shirts and look like I been doing it...
If you tryna get right for this summers fellas I suggest you go get you some monohydrate and bulk up!
the minute you stop lifting weights for 2 days you see your muscles deflating like balloon

i pass

[BabyNell]

Please consider the long term health effects that it will cause. The most frequent being kidney problems.

[Koolest]

I tried that.....u gotta continue and continue buying that expensive sh*t forever....

[Prophetic-Poet]

a good wieght gainer with high protein iz good enough....

CYTOGAINER iz piff....

[Simply The One]

No thanks, I'll just stick to working out 4 days a week without the help of drugs.

[Ayatollah Watts]

muscles are overrated/corny

[skeetsinternal]

I'll pass. I can not take the taste of creatine. Just drink Muscle Milk

[PeterVankmen]

I tried that.....u gotta continue and continue buying that expensive sh*t forever....


It's crazy how you don't feel sore, and can just work out everyday.

Ever since I started using I haven't had to jump in the hot tub...

[Yoshii]

I'll pass. I can not take the taste of creatine. Just drink Muscle Milk


Muscle Milk is dat crakkk!!

[Yoshii]

I've been working out for only two weeks, and have been takign two scoops after every work out. Dude, you can soooo see the vains in my arm, and my bi-ceps have swollen up a lil bit too...
Yeah, I know it's mostly water, and once I come off the stuff they will go down.
But as of rigt now I can where the t-shirts and look like I been doing it...
If you tryna get right for this summers fellas I suggest you go get you some monohydrate and bulk up!


Yo meat gone shrink :weirdo:

[Sarcoss]

what about that powder? weight gainer? some ****

[Mr.Rominati]

Its shrinks your package. Just like steroids.

Thats the main reason I dont use any enhancements.

[Indifferent]

hasnt shrunk mine pause

[UdLuvMe]

muscles are overrated/corny


joke?

[Fendi_Mane]

You stupid ass niccas disgust me. I hate when niccas don't know shyt about general fitness on some yo "son" I use creatine i'm gettin swole "son". Creatine does not make your shyt shrink and increased vascularity is unlikely especially with mono. I think I saw one dumb ass say he couldn't take the taste and the shyt is tasteless and odorless. You niccas need to do some research and get some real experience before you ever ever ever see the need to speak on lifting.

[andre patton]

You stupid ass niccas disgust me. I hate when niccas don't know shyt about general fitness on some yo "son" I use creatine i'm gettin swole "son". Creatine does not make your shyt shrink and increased vascularity is unlikely especially with mono. I think I saw one dumb ass say he couldn't take the taste and the shyt is tasteless and odorless. You niccas need to do some research and get some real experience before you ever ever ever see the need to speak on lifting.

pretty much.

you a flat out idiot if you takin creatine mono and you already dont have a high protein diet. mono makes you put on some water weight but it still helps build muscle. i would stick to ethyl ester though since it doesnt add any water weight.

creatine does not shrink your diick, and its not a steriod. its a natural element found in our bodies, and in meat

creatine is also odorless/tasteless so whoever said it was nasty must'v just tried a bad formula. if you get pure creatine you can mix it w/ kool aid and it'll taste like nothin.

[Yoshii]

You stupid ass niccas disgust me. I hate when niccas don't know shyt about general fitness on some yo "son" I use creatine i'm gettin swole "son". Creatine does not make your shyt shrink and increased vascularity is unlikely especially with mono. I think I saw one dumb ass say he couldn't take the taste and the shyt is tasteless and odorless. You niccas need to do some research and get some real experience before you ever ever ever see the need to speak on lifting.
:laugh: :laugh:
U :mad: ?

[easy380]

Creatine isn't really a healthy way. Whey protein is much better.

[Yoshii]

pretty much.
you a flat out idiot if you takin creatine mono and you already dont have a high protein diet. mono makes you put on some water weight but it still helps build muscle. i would stick to ethyl ester though since it doesnt add any water weight.
creatine does not shrink your diick, and its not a steriod. its a natural element found in our bodies, and in meat
creatine is also odorless/tasteless so whoever said it was nasty must'v just tried a bad formula. if you get pure creatine you can mix it w/ kool aid and it'll taste like nothin.

Ur body does produce creatine naturally, but what it doesn't use, u piss out!

So basically u better off with something like Muscle Milk, if u want to can get ur money's worth!

[whoa4]

ehh, I take it. I only use it now for energy when I go to the gym and because I ran out of protein. I rather take just protein, or eat enough.


and yes, creatine is naturally created in your body and yes, muscle milk is that crack.

[andre patton]

Ur body does produce creatine naturally, but what it doesn't use, u piss out!
So basically u better off with something like Muscle Milk, if u want to can get ur money's worth!

i already said if you dont have a high protein diet its a waste of money.

muscle milk is essentially just a lot of protein and some shiitty carbs...its overpriced. i would buy straight up whey protein and get my carbs from natural foods.

your body can still take 5-10g of more creatine then it produces naturally. it will help with vascularity...you'll look more muscular and you'll be able to lift more weight. that will in turn make you stronger...remember weight lifting is almost just as much mental as it is physical.

there have been studies that suggest long term abuse of creatine has led to your body naturally producing less creatine which could hurt you later on in life...but nothing conclusive.

like i said...only use creatine if you're already an experienced lifter with a good diet. in any other scenario its just a waste of money.

[nalej]

2 scoops every day is way too much. you're only supposed to do one max. your kidneys are going to give out son. I actually only take it on workout days. keeps me less sore the next day.

[duck]

that sh!t fukk up your kidneys and shrinks your balls

leave it alone

[Mr.Rominati]

Niccas in denial. Yes creatine is found in meat, but niccas now adays be takin cycles of that shyt like its steroids, post and pre workout. It is pretty much water muscle. And yes is does shrink your meat over time, cause in high school the team used to clown this nicca who od on it and face its "shortcommings"(No homo to where it may apply)
Scust at niccas takin that powder sh!t. Just stick to whey protein. Thats the problem now a days, people just want results but dont want to put no work in.

Edit: My spotting buddy used to take 100gs of it and got swole quick, but he broke his cycle when he felt he should stop and that nicca got fcked in more than one way. Homie got kidney stones for like half a year. To ya aggressive niccas ya just mad ya cheatin.:laugh:

[Multi]

3 raw eggs a day over hurr'

[DMP_87]

can of tuna for breakfast, work out, grilled chicken brocolli, and fruit afterward, pb sandwich for a snack, and healty dinner>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>creatine.

protien shakes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creatine.

--True lie

[Fendi_Mane]

SMH at u niccas ignorance. Also, ya homeboy had no business taking 100g's a day. At second thought you are a fukkin lie. A kilo of the shyt cost about $20 and that's the cheapest shyt. That means he would be buying it every 2 weeks. Also, with the kidney stone thing I can put a stack on it that the doc never said it was because creatine. Creatine is the second best supplement behind Jungle Warfare and I have been using it everyday for about 1 1/2 years with no adverse side effects. My dyck has stayed the same size and my kidneys aren't hurting yet. You can get enough protein through eating but you will never get more than 2 or 3 grams of creatine through eating unless your eating raw meat. I'm forreal with my iron game and you niccas are really fukkin with me because I know i'm right and you niccas are wrong as fukk. Maybe yall should just play hop scotch for exercise and stay the fukk outta my way at the gym.

yes:mad:

[DMP_87]

lol @ ppl gettin 'roid rage' in this thread

[andre patton]

^^^^^

creatine MIGHT cause increased strain on your kidneys...but thats not a problem for any young, active person. you should be drinking at least a gallon of water a day anyway so that wont be a problem.

i dont know what jungle warfare is...but the best combo i've ever used for putting on muscle is high protein/high carb diet...5g of CEE...40g of whey at every meal and post work out.

[Mr.Rominati]

SMH at u niccas ignorance. Also, ya homeboy had no business taking 100g's a day. At second thought you are a fukkin lie. A kilo of the shyt cost about $20 and that's the cheapest shyt. That means he would be buying it every 2 weeks. Also, with the kidney stone thing I can put a stack on it that the doc never said it was because creatine. Creatine is the second best supplement behind Jungle Warfare and I have been using it everyday for about 1 1/2 years with no adverse side effects. My dyck has stayed the same size and my kidneys aren't hurting yet. You can get enough protein through eating but you will never get more than 2 or 3 grams of creatine through eating unless your eating raw meat. I'm forreal with my iron game and you niccas are really fukkin with me because I know i'm right and you niccas are wrong as fukk. Maybe yall should just play hop scotch for exercise and stay the fukk outta my way at the gym.
yes:mad:

Alright Popeye wateva u say u just mad cause im tellin the truth:laugh: .
So where the fck did he get the kidney stones from then huh? The river, nicca pls u makin a fool out of yourself. Lol @ roid rage.

[BK's own:DollaBoy]

*Buys .45 for these faqquites*

[icho]

is taking protein supplements to build muscle like swole unhealthy? http://www.mrprotein.com/pageimages/syntrax/swole.jpg

[Bk's Mr Incredible]

if you're on some beginner shyt you shouldnt be taking any supplements but multi's and protein - all that extra synthetic stuff might give you quicker results, but you may deflate again when you come off em...like you gotta keep payin to keep your muscles

i used to take creatine, but i havent for about two years and just got smarter and more consistent with how i worked out and i'm much bigger/stronger/leaner now

[detroitwalt]

Please consider the long term health effects that it will cause. The most frequent being kidney problems.


there were a lot posts in here to quote but the stupidity of it all got to me so i stopped after one.

got damn it's a lot of fukkin idiots in here.

http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/creatinesafety.htm

Carefully controlled studies over the short- (five days), medium- (nine weeks) and long-term (up to five years) have yet to demonstrate that creatine supplementation has any adverse effects on blood pressure, kidney or liver function in healthy individuals [3, 5, 6, 7, 8].

Of course, an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The fact that large trials have yet to find any serious creatine side effects doesn't mean that none exist. There are isolated case reports of individuals suffering from kidney problems after using creatine [4].

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/creatine-side-effects.htm


http://www.psu.edu/ur/NEWS/news/sportsmed1.98july.html

Despite anecdotal reports of nausea and muscle cramps, there has been no actual scientific documentation of negative side effects as a result of taking creatine, says Dr. William J. Kraemer, newsletter associate editor and professor of applied physiology at Penn State.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Bodybuilding---Side-Effects-of-Creatine-Supplements&id=539445

However, there has been news circulating that creatine cause several side effects on one’s body. One of the side effects being linked to creatine is related to kidney problems. Some people pointed out that long-term use of creatine might cause kidney stones to some users. But, solid evidence against creatine with regard to this ailment has not been provided.

Another side effect being pointed to creatine is renal stress. This condition will be triggered when a person with existing renal or kidney problems drink creatine. A person might also feel bloated but it could be due to the feeling of gaining mass.

The only proven side effect of creatine to the human body is diarrhea. However, this happened because the athletes using creatine took more than the prescribed amount of creatine. Diarrhea was immediately resolved after reducing the dosage.

Generally speaking, there has been no full proof evidence against the long-term use of creatine. Most of the allegations for this product do not have a strong data that the observed side effects are due to creatine. There are people that suspects that side effects happen on case-to-case basis and might vary according to the form of creatine. Only the over dosage of creatine linked with diarrhea has been proven and it is just logical since it is not really advisable to drink more than the prescribed amount of medication.

[detroitwalt]

Its shrinks your package. Just like steroids.
Thats the main reason I dont use any enhancements.
another dummy

[Norton G.Nubuck]

so does steroids,but i ain't gonna be using them anytime soon.......

[detroitwalt]

Creatine isn't really a healthy way. Whey protein is much better.

uhh and another one

[detroitwalt]

2 scoops every day is way too much. you're only supposed to do one max. your kidneys are going to give out son. I actually only take it on workout days. keeps me less sore the next day.

how do you know this?

am i the only one that gets tired of people talkin out they ass? i swear none of yall know shyt.

[detroitwalt]

Alright Popeye wateva u say u just mad cause im tellin the truth:laugh: .
So where the fck did he get the kidney stones from then huh? The river, nicca pls u makin a fool out of yourself. Lol @ roid rage.


you fukkin dummy, so you sayin you get kidney stones only if you takin creatine? i guess the ancient egyptians were gettin they swole on huh?

If you've ever passed a kidney stone, you're not likely to forget the experience — it can be excruciatingly painful. Kidney stones (renal lithiasis) are an ancient affliction dating back to the age of the Egyptian pyramids, yet they are still a common disorder today. The incidence of kidney stones has been increasing in recent decades. Although the reasons for this are still unclear, many experts believe that diet choices and lack of fluids are important factors that have contributed to this increase.

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00282.html

[Bk's Mr Incredible]

you fukkin dummy, so you sayin you get kidney stones only if you takin creatine? i guess the ancient egyptians were gettin they swole on huh?
If you've ever passed a kidney stone, you're not likely to forget the experience — it can be excruciatingly painful. Kidney stones (renal lithiasis) are an ancient affliction dating back to the age of the Egyptian pyramids, yet they are still a common disorder today. The incidence of kidney stones has been increasing in recent decades. Although the reasons for this are still unclear, many experts believe that diet choices and lack of fluids are important factors that have contributed to this increase.
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00282.html
if you take creatine, dont you also need to drink lots of water? i would assume if you arent and take it often it can lead to those symptoms

[Mr.Rominati]

you fukkin dummy, so you sayin you get kidney stones only if you takin creatine? i guess the ancient egyptians were gettin they swole on huh?
If you've ever passed a kidney stone, you're not likely to forget the experience — it can be excruciatingly painful. Kidney stones (renal lithiasis) are an ancient affliction dating back to the age of the Egyptian pyramids, yet they are still a common disorder today. The incidence of kidney stones has been increasing in recent decades. Although the reasons for this are still unclear, many experts believe that diet choices and lack of fluids are important factors that have contributed to this increase.
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00282.html


Short-term (less than 2 weeks) exercise studies have not reported any adverse events associated with creatine supplementation. There have been no long-term studies done to evaluate the safety of prolonged administration. This is unfortunate because more and more athletes are taking creatine supplements for longer periods.
Anecdotal reports have begun to emerge and have noted increased muscle cramping (especially during exercise in the heat), nausea and other gastrointestinal disturbances, elevated liver transaminases, and acute renal injury.

Creatine supplementation, in the dosages commonly used, results in urinary concentrations that are 90 times greater than normal. The long-term effects of this have not been investigated, but there is possibility for a variety of nephrotoxic events (i.e. kidney damaging).

There is potential for direct toxicity on renal tubules where urine is formed, and for acceleration of kidney stone formation. A while back, a baseball player for the Houston Astros was determined to have suffered from dehydration, kidney stones, and transient kidney damage as the result of creatine supplementation.


Additionally, the recent deaths of 3 collegiate wrestlers are being investigated to determine what role creatine supplementation may have played.

Impurities are present in virtually every manufactured product, and in some cases -- even though the product may be considered harmless -- the impurity is not. Such was the case in the late 1980s when an epidemic of cases of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome, including over 30 deaths, were blamed on a contaminant present in L-tryptophan, an amino acid supplement widely taken as a sleep aid.

The FDA does not regulate creatine and other such supplements. No published investigation has been conducted on creatine to determine what impurities might be present in creatine supplements, and what their long-term effects might be.

The bottom line is that no one can confidently state that prolonged creatine supplementation is safe, and its use would best supervised until more data can be compiled. Prolonged administration is, in essence, an uncontrolled toxicity study and one that might yield harmful results. Is it worth the risk?

Remember... it's your body! Unless you perform a blood test and discover your creatine levels are naturally too low, then you shouldn't take more of it. Too much of a good thing always turns out badly in the end.
Article Suggested By:Ricky H., Albany, NY








Alright you ****kin idiot are you happy now? I hate when idiots like you just enter the gym at start talkin sh!t about creatine and what not. The FDA has not approved any of that stuff, all that stuff is biased. So you are takin it on your own risk. Same way you can find info supportin creatine I can find info agaisnt it. So please why dont you get your fatass on that ab swing and do 10 sets for daddy kthanks by. Ive been working out for my whole fckin life and unlike like nerds like you who go on the internet and do research, I see things in front of my own eyes. I bet your the type of nicca that just takes creatine to work out. I bet you dont even know about the 2 week preparation process of lettin that sh!t even enter you body. Dogg you are fckin up you body period. And you can sit down and type all you like. I dont kno wat gym you go to, but around here we clown niccas like you who take the easy way out. And just cause you got a couple of bodybuilder weekly's doesnt give you the right to walk around on a high horse like you actually kno sh!t.

[detroitwalt]

if you take creatine, dont you also need to drink lots of water? i would assume if you arent and take it often it can lead to those symptoms


if you're working out you should be drinking a lot of water anyway. i drink about a gallon a day whether i'm cycling on creatine or not. there was no need for me to increase the amount of water i was drinking.

IMO if someone is taking creatine and not drinking enough water to stay hydrated then i see that as their own fault and shouldn't be blamed on creatine.

[PeterVankmen]

You niccas need to do some research and get some real experience before you ever ever ever see the need to speak on lifting.

Oh yeah, I don't know sh!t.

So what, I shouldn't keep taking it? I should take something else? I like the way my arms look now though....

[detroitwalt]

Alright you ****kin idiot are you happy now? I hate when idiots like you just enter the gym at start talkin sh!t about creatine and what not. The FDA has not approved any of that stuff, all that stuff is biased. So you are takin it on your own risk. Same way you can find info supportin creatine I can find info agaisnt it. So please why dont you get your fatass on that ab swing and do 10 sets for daddy kthanks by. Ive been working out for my whole fckin life and unlike like nerds like you who go on the internet and do research, I see things in front of my own eyes. I bet your the type of nicca that just takes creatine to work out. I bet you dont even know about the 2 week preparation process of lettin that sh!t even enter you body. Dogg you are fckin up you body period. And you can sit down and type all you like. I dont kno wat gym you go to, but around here we clown niccas like you who take the easy way out. And just cause you got a couple of bodybuilder weekly's doesnt give you the right to walk around on a high horse like you actually kno sh!t.

is this your evidence?

Niccas in denial. Yes creatine is found in meat, but niccas now adays be takin cycles of that shyt like its steroids, post and pre workout. It is pretty much water muscle. And yes is does shrink your meat over time, cause in high school the team used to clown this nicca who od on it and face its "shortcommings"(No homo to where it may apply)
Scust at niccas takin that powder sh!t. Just stick to whey protein. Thats the problem now a days, people just want results but dont want to put no work in.
Edit: My spotting buddy used to take 100gs of it and got swole quick, but he broke his cycle when he felt he should stop and that nicca got fcked in more than one way. Homie got kidney stones for like half a year. To ya aggressive niccas ya just mad ya cheatin.:laugh:

how long was you studyin homeboy d1ck to see that it shrunk? oh wait, i bet you wasn't on the team, just heard nykkas talkin bout it huh? you can't no homo your way outta that gay shyt.

you got another homeboy takin a 100g a serving when you shouldn't take more than 5-10? you mean to tell me if you take TOO MUCH of something you can have an adverse side effect? shyt son, yousa fukkin genius! ow long it take you to figure that out.

you say you can find info that advises against taking creatine. well go ahead and post it. i'd like to see what long term study has been done and by whom.

what 2 week prep phase are you talking about? do you mean the 1 week loading phase? depending on what type of creatine you take you may not even have to do a loading phase.

[Fendi_Mane]

Oh yeah, I don't know sh!t.
So what, I shouldn't keep taking it? I should take something else? I like the way my arms look now though....
I wasn't directing any of this towards you. If you like the results you are getting by all means keep taking it. I actually encourage anyone who is lifting to supplement with creatine but some of these niccas comments were stupid as fukk.

[Mowgli]

Im takin this Muscle tech Mass tech shake. This **** is like drinkin wet cement its so thick. I get it down but DAM. I'm tryin to put on 15 pounds for my Brazillian Jiujitsu Tournament. Anyone know a good weight gainer thatll help put muscle and mass on? My workout is basically jiujitsu and muay thai. I lifted for 2 solid years so my core strength is there. I just gotta put these pounds on. ANyone had a weight gainer work for them?

[Fendi_Mane]

Im takin this Muscle tech Mass tech shake. This **** is like drinkin wet cement its so thick. I get it down but DAM. I'm tryin to put on 15 pounds for my Brazillian Jiujitsu Tournament. Anyone know a good weight gainer thatll help put muscle and mass on? My workout is basically jiujitsu and muay thai. I lifted for 2 solid years so my core strength is there. I just gotta put these pounds on. ANyone had a weight gainer work for them?
A mix of oats, whey protein powder, milk, and 1 scoop of ice cream. That should do it. But you gotta workout hard to put all of that shyt to use.

[whoa4]

OK, as a user of creatine for about 4 years on and off, I can tell you from my perspective that I haven't had any noticeable side effects. No Kidney stones, my dikk is still the same size, my balls are still the same size, my hair still grows the same direction, etc.

Over doing anything can be harmful to you, so I took my recommended dosages. Infact, I only ued one scoop per day that I worked out. If I wasn't doing anything, I didn't use it because too much creatine will get you fat if you don't work out with it (If I remember correctly).

Protein is the way to go, and only the correct amount for your goals. I honestly can say that I've gained most of my mass from protein, my realistic mass. Creatine is supposed to give you energy (if I remember correctly) and help inflate your muscles but only protein actually repairs the muscle once you tear it down. And with creatine and protein you must drink a lot of water. Creatine will dehydrate you, cramp you, and give you the runs if you don't and I believe protein will just give you the runs if you don't drink water.


I really don't pay attention to too much else as far as supplement goes. ANd if I had enough money, time, food, and appetite then I would probably not even take protein and go natural.

Right now I take 2 tablespoons of creatine with OJ and I was taking green tea pills to trim up. This batch of creatine is the first I've taken in about a year, and only because I ran out of protein.

[dat bama p]

how do you know this?
am i the only one that gets tired of people talkin out they ass? i swear none of yall know shyt.
This is tha ladies room none of these B1TCHES work out.
"Creatine will lower your sperm count"
"Creatine will make you age faster"
"Creatine will make you lose your eye sight"
FUKKING IDIOTS.