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galvatron
01-05-07, 02:08 PM
alkl the hype for Kingdom come and HHID

nas will push hard to go plat jay aint going double and 50 will outsell what Jay did in his 1st week and I will make sure every n1gga on sohh is aware of this in the download age.Yall can talk about respect all yall want.I care about SALES and 1st week numbers and 50 will crush Jay and nas in both categories......I cant fukking wait to crush the haters with facts

Felonious Monk
01-05-07, 02:10 PM
Seriously..are you on the street team or promo dept?

Or is SOHH the only messageboard you spam with 50 content?

Rzarector7
01-05-07, 02:12 PM
What did you just wake up thinking of this today???? Why do you care so much about sales and 1st week numbers when you get nothing from it? Or do you? I wouldn't doubt it, you have to be street team for G Unit.

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:13 PM
Seriously..are you on the street team or promo dept?
Or is SOHH the only messageboard you spam with 50 content?
you swear Jay and nas are so much better than 50 yet 50 will outsell them all over again and it just proves that respect dont mean sh1t in hiphop....... sales do

so in your top 5 you can name any rapper you want but when you name the top selling rappers you MUST put 50 in there

KarteL13
01-05-07, 02:16 PM
lol, probably the best alias ever.

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:16 PM
What did you just wake up thinking of this today???? Why do you care so much about sales and 1st week numbers when you get nothing from it? Or do you? I wouldn't doubt it, you have to be street team for G Unit.
the most popular threads on AHH and sohh are always the ones about soundscan ....its not just me it everybody who follows hiphop like I do.

All the hype for the clipse and they did worse than Mobb deep and Lloyd Banks yet n1ggas aint rejoice over the sh1t.Sale are very important in this era of hiphop......Sales mean success lack of sales mean n1ggas aint fukking with ya product.

Johnny Cage
01-05-07, 02:17 PM
50 Cent is better than Jay-Z and Nas. "Men lie, Women lie, Numbers don't" - Jay-Z

Straight outta Jay's mouth, he can admit it, why don't ya'll?

Invalid
01-05-07, 02:18 PM
lol, probably the best alias ever.

Is that right?

He does say bait things but 90% of the cunts on here do.

THE DICTATOR
01-05-07, 02:18 PM
Cause Vanilla Ice 1st Album Sold More Then Ob4cl,illmatic,36 Chambers

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:19 PM
50 Cent is better than Jay-Z and Nas. "Men lie, Women lie, Numbers don't" - Jay-Z
Straight outta Jay's mouth, he can admit it, why don't ya'll?
c/s

GoodDoctorZeus
01-05-07, 02:19 PM
you swear Jay and nas are so much better than 50 yet 50 will outsell them all over again and it just proves that respect dont mean sh1t in hiphop....... sales do
so in your top 5 you can name any rapper you want but when you name the top selling rappers you MUST put 50 in there
He'll definitely outsell Nas but that's a given but he's gonna do Jay numbers. The days of 50 Cent doing 10 mill are over. The man is one walking gimmick and his time is all most up.

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:20 PM
Cause Vanilla Ice 1st Album Sold More Then Ob4cl,illmatic,36 Chambers
50 has a classic cd GRODT Vanilla Ice does not..there is no comparison.you sound desperate

THE COLLEGE DROPOUT
01-05-07, 02:21 PM
you swear Jay and nas are so much better than 50 yet 50 will outsell them all over again and it just proves that respect dont mean sh1t in hiphop....... sales do
so in your top 5 you can name any rapper you want but when you name the top selling rappers you MUST put 50 in there

so 50 is better then nas and jay cuz he sells more then them

so i guess hammer,vanilla ice and shaggy or anybody who sells more then 50 is better then him

when will yall cats understand sells dont equal skills

peace

DUN da KRACKA
01-05-07, 02:22 PM
he is far more popular with the younger folks and people who buy records. Thats a fact.

DUN da KRACKA
01-05-07, 02:23 PM
50 has a classic cd GRODT Vanilla Ice does not..there is no comparison.you sound desperate
That is your opinion.

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:24 PM
He'll definitely outsell Nas but that's a given but he's gonna do Jay numbers. The days of 50 Cent doing 10 mill are over. The man is one walking gimmick and his time is all most up.
all 50 has to do is sell double Plat to outsell Jigga..Jay Z did 680,000 1st week and took 4 weeks to go platinum .Are you telling me its gonna take 50 4 weeks to sell a million records??????

notorious8562
01-05-07, 02:24 PM
50 hasn't been good since Power of the Dollar. Why you still on his ****?

And Jay already went double

Typical Nas Stan
01-05-07, 02:25 PM
lol, probably the best alias ever. :dry:

Felonious Monk
01-05-07, 02:26 PM
you swear Jay and nas are so much better than 50 yet 50 will outsell them all over again and it just proves that respect dont mean sh1t in hiphop....... sales do
so in your top 5 you can name any rapper you want but when you name the top selling rappers you MUST put 50 in thereYou got me confused with the rest of Sohh..

1st I never said I was or wasnt a 50 fan.

2nd you feel anybody that speaks against YOUR 50 posts is a 50 hater

3rd You WANT 50 to be in the top 5 of something..I could care shyt about how many records he sells honestly, cuz we know he has the same fan base as Britney, Justin, Nelly etc..

If white middle american teeny boppers wasnt the majority of 50 market share..he wouldnt be shyt..selling 2x plat at the most.

Wasnt he signed to Columbia, same label as Nas AND Desitny Child..was he selling records back then?

No?

Why?

No fan base..

Made "how to rob"

Who heard of 50 cent outside of NYC before JAY Z GAVE HIM CREDIBILITY AT THE SUMMER JAM?

Nobody..

After that...he moves more units..MTv even speaks on him..Eminem jock's him..the rest is history..

50 even starts his CAREER off with beef..

Eminem has signed a NEW GANGSTA rapper which Dre is gonna produce...thats 3 million records sold already..

You giving 50 tooo much credit and getting shot is probably the BEST thing to happen to his life...

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:26 PM
50 hasn't been good since Power of the Dollar. Why you still on his ****?
And Jay already went double
Jigga aint close to double

I cant wait to hear the pleas yall cop when he easily outsells Jigga .oh yeah he gonna outsell game to

notorious8562
01-05-07, 02:28 PM
billboard has him at double plat. I don't care either way, but get your facts straight

(number 21)
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=The+Billboard+200&pageNumber=Top+11-50&g=Albums

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:30 PM
You got me confused with the rest of Sohh..
1st I never said I was or wasnt a 50 fan.
2nd you feel anybody that speaks against YOUR 50 posts is a 50 hater
3rd You WANT 50 to be in the top 5 of something..I could care shyt about how many records he sells honestly, cuz we know he has the same fan base as Britney, Justin, Nelly etc..
If white middle american teeny boppers wasnt the majority of 50 market share..he wouldnt be shyt..selling 2x plat at the most.
Wasnt he signed to Columbia, same label as Nas AND Desitny Child..was he selling records back then?
No?
Why?
No fan base..
Made "how to rob"
Who heard of 50 cent outside of NYC before JAY Z GAVE HIM CREDIBILITY AT THE SUMMER JAM?
Nobody..
After that...he moves more units..MTv even speaks on him..Eminem jock's him..the rest is history..
50 even starts his CAREER off with beef..
Eminem has signed a NEW GANGSTA rapper which Dre is gonna produce...thats 3 million records sold already..
You giving 50 tooo much credit and getting shot is probably the BEST thing to happen to his life...
why did Busta only go Gold with Dre Backing?

why did Game only sell 2.3 with Dre and Em

why did Obie flop this time around with EM

why is 50 the only artist to break 5 mill with the dre and Em Cosign?

and you are bugging saying Jay is the reason 50 blew up......well why hasnt Jim Jones got a sales bounce from Jigga going at him?

DUN da KRACKA
01-05-07, 02:30 PM
You ...
You lost dude. You wasted the couple minutes it took you to write that. Why you throwin logic at galvi? He dont care. He slob 50s knob regardless. Watch how he spins ya post now.

Felonious Monk
01-05-07, 02:31 PM
billboard has him at double plat. I don't care either way, but get your facts straight
(number 21)
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=The+Billboard+200&pageNumber=Top+11-50&g=Albums
Billboard probably as having him SHIPPED 2 million units.

Check RIAA or soundscan reports..for true sales..

Johnny Cage
01-05-07, 02:32 PM
so 50 is better then nas and jay cuz he sells more then them
so i guess hammer,vanilla ice and shaggy or anybody who sells more then 50 is better then him
when will yall cats understand sells dont equal skills
peace

Since when did Vanilla Ice and MC-Hammer sell over 14 million albums? :laugh:

Also, back then they could trick ****as into coppin albums cuz no one could download ****, everyone who copped 50's **** copped it knowing what kind of a album it was.

Ya'll lost!

DUN da KRACKA
01-05-07, 02:32 PM
billboard has him at double plat. I don't care either way, but get your facts straight
(number 21)
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=The+Billboard+200&pageNumber=Top+11-50&g=Albums
shipped

philly40
01-05-07, 02:33 PM
Jay and Nas could sell 2 records combined and they will still be better than 50 will ever be.

When 50 sells and album that isn't surrounded by beef then I may take his sales seriously.

kb2602
01-05-07, 02:33 PM
bottom line

nas, jay, game=hip hop artists

50=pop artist

so of course 50 will outsell them, this aint nothing new

close thread

Johnny Cage
01-05-07, 02:35 PM
LMAO @ sayin Jay ain't a pop artist, you in SERIOUS denial homie.

Close thread, ya'll Jay and Nas stans lost :laugh:

Felonious Monk
01-05-07, 02:36 PM
why did Busta only go Gold with Dre Backing?
why did Game only sell 2.3 with Dre and Em
why did Obie flop this time around with EM
why is 50 the only artist to break 5 mill with the dre and Em Cosign?
and you are bugging saying Jay is the reason 50 blew up......well why hasnt Jim Jones got a sales bounce from Jigga going at him?Non of them where gangsta rappers..including Game.

You lost dude. You wasted the couple minutes it took you to write that. Why you throwin logic at galvi? He dont care. He slob 50s knob regardless. Watch how he spins ya post now.You right. I was expecting something logical when he is the king post spinner avoid the issue at at hand.

GoodDoctorZeus
01-05-07, 02:37 PM
Look I personally love the new title to 50's album "Before I Self-Destruct" (Amazing title by the way.) but G-Unit is proving fast to be just a fad. I don't think 50 has the staying power of Jigga. "Hard Knock Life" was a once-in-a-lifetime single from a man who churns out hit single after hit single but that song was a song that was just a gigantic crossover song that he never really duplicated THAT level of success. "In Da Club" was 50's "Hard Knock Life" and that song was released damn near 4 years ago. To think that 50 can do the numbers that he did the first week on "The Massacre" or even "Get Rich or Die Trying", he would need a song of that level of popularity and ubiqutousness and 50 hasn't really made a song that popular since. "Candy Shop" was pretty frickin' awful despite how popular it was and I can't imagine him turning a song that popular even. I think 50's new album will do well and probably outsell Jigga but your crazy to think he's doing 1 million in a week in this day in age. The G-Unit star power is dying if not dead already.

Johnny Cage
01-05-07, 02:39 PM
Non of them where gangsta rappers..including Game.
You right. I was expecting something logical when he is the king post spinner avoid the issue at at hand.

:laugh:

The Game ain't no gangster rapper? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You don't have to make people wonder if you stupid or not, you provin it right here :laugh:

Just BlackAf
01-05-07, 02:40 PM
bottom line

nas, jay, game=hip hop artists

50=pop artist

so of course 50 will outsell them, this aint nothing new

close thread
lol at tryna slide Game's name in there

Game is twice the gimmick 50 Cent is and half the MC...

bay224
01-05-07, 02:42 PM
50 Cent Only Sellz Cuz Of Eminym. If Mnm Never Cosigned Him He Would Be A Nobody 2day. And Nas Is Garhbage Hez Never Been That Popuhla

Koolest
01-05-07, 02:46 PM
I'm surprised the thread starter is concerned about sales, older cats know better than that.....

huskie
01-05-07, 02:46 PM
50 Cent Only Sellz Cuz Of Eminym. If Mnm Never Cosigned Him He Would Be A Nobody 2day. And Nas Is Garhbage Hez Never Been That Popuhla
How does a person survive in the rap game this long that you claim is garbage?

Felonious Monk
01-05-07, 02:49 PM
:laugh:
The Game ain't no gangster rapper? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You don't have to make people wonder if you stupid or not, you provin it right here :laugh:Gettin shot selling weed makes you gangsta?

Getting tats make you gangsta?

Mean muggin makes you a gangsta?

Ohhh..all you gotta do is rap about killing, gangbanging, selling drugs and how many air forces ones you own?

WAIT-Getting a butterfly tatted on your eye is really gangsta.

I guess that WAS a gangsta move goin on a change of heart.

galvatron
01-05-07, 02:49 PM
Look I personally love the new title to 50's album "Before I Self-Destruct" (Amazing title by the way.) but G-Unit is proving fast to be just a fad. I don't think 50 has the staying power of Jigga. "Hard Knock Life" was a once-in-a-lifetime single from a man who churns out hit single after hit single but that song was a song that was just a gigantic crossover song that he never really duplicated THAT level of success. "In Da Club" was 50's "Hard Knock Life" and that song was released damn near 4 years ago. To think that 50 can do the numbers that he did the first week on "The Massacre" or even "Get Rich or Die Trying", he would need a song of that level of popularity and ubiqutousness and 50 hasn't really made a song that popular since. "Candy Shop" was pretty frickin' awful despite how popular it was and I can't imagine him turning a song that popular even. I think 50's new album will do well and probably outsell Jigga but your crazy to think he's doing 1 million in a week in this day in age. The G-Unit star power is dying if not dead already.
Fad.....Fads dont last for 5 years

NotSoft
01-05-07, 02:53 PM
mean he more popular not better.

The_Abstract
01-05-07, 02:53 PM
If you really care about sales.......

Jay-Z is worth 349 million, Fiddy is worth 100.

Just BlackAf
01-05-07, 02:54 PM
Gettin shot selling weed makes you gangsta?

Getting tats make you gangsta?

Mean muggin makes you a gangsta?

Ohhh..all you gotta do is rap about killing, gangbanging, selling drugs and how many air forces ones you own?

WAIT-Getting a butterfly tatted on your eye is really gangsta.

I guess that WAS a gangsta move goin on a change of heart.
Game Gangster RAPPER not a Gangster/Rapper

If he aint a gangsta rapper what is he supposed to be, a comedic performer?

SoFaB
01-05-07, 02:55 PM
50 Cent is better than Jay-Z and Nas. "Men lie, Women lie, Numbers don't" - Jay-Z
Straight outta Jay's mouth, he can admit it, why don't ya'll?

do n1ggas even realize that Jigga is still doin multi-plat in the 10th year of his mainstream career.. thats unbelievable for a hip hop artist..

and if you're gonna talk about numbers.. 50 aint catchin jigga as far as the cake goes.. at least not yet

lol @ the thought of KC not hitting double.. it will easily sell to at least 2.5 and struggle to get to triple after time.. just like the black album.. jigga has a set fanbase.. whether he sells 400 500 or 600k first week, that fanbase comes through

thug0holic_niccuh
01-05-07, 02:57 PM
FIF will outsell Jay and Nas combined, thats known.

But it will mean nothing to hiphop if he does not continue with the quality of music that we've seen the end of the year.

When he sells and the music is garbage, it will dig rap/hiphop into a deeper hole.

I aint made at FIF though, I hope he is successful, but he definitely can make better music. Its proven with his first album.

Felonious Monk
01-05-07, 02:59 PM
Game Gangster RAPPER not a Gangster/Rapper
If he aint a gangsta rapper what is he supposed to be, a comedic performer?My point is Game didnt start in the industry as a gangsta rapper, nor had the tattoo's prior to doing his 1st album with JT THE BIGGA FIGGA out here in the Bay.

Yet, let the Game tell it. He used to bang and sell dope.

Thats why JT is gettin PAID from Game and Interscope to this DAY.

Some REAL gangstas feel you cant rap about it without living it or yeah.you are BASICALLY a comedian..

bay224
01-05-07, 03:01 PM
How does a person survive in the rap game this long that you claim is garbage?


GIMMICKS

westkoast2k2
01-05-07, 03:04 PM
Fad.....Fads dont last for 5 years

LOL yes they do!! Disco was a fad, that lasted more then 5 years. Grunge rock was a fad, that lasted more then 5 years.

huskie
01-05-07, 03:05 PM
GIMMICKS
just out of curiousity..who are some of your favorite rappers?

bay224
01-05-07, 03:13 PM
just out of curiousity..who are some of your favorite rappers?

jeezy dro ball n g TI buck ugk.........everything south

south dont have to use gimmicks like jay-z(the savior),50 cent(fake beefs), and nas(hiphop is dead worked for 1 week and jeezy bout to outsell him)

DUN da KRACKA
01-05-07, 03:19 PM
jeezy dro ball n g TI buck ugk.........everything south
south
lmao

dumassispumanti
01-05-07, 03:20 PM
all 50 has to do is sell double Plat to outsell Jigga..Jay Z did 680,000 1st week and took 4 weeks to go platinum .Are you telling me its gonna take 50 4 weeks to sell a million records??????

Yeah that's exactly what I am saying. 50 has LOST middle America's support.

Take Banks for example: Banks did numbers off 50's name and that's the ONLY real reason. Now look at his second album's numbers. A HUGE decline. Why? Cuz 50's popularity declined. There you have 50 Cent's current situation. Nobody respects his skills, only his numbers and the controversy. Problem is, he's run out of people to diss and now everyone sees through it. He only has Jay-Z left to diss and Jay won't buy into his marketing plan. It's over.

sorry to ruin your day